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Posted: 6/27/2003 3:15:32 AM EDT
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Speer 124gr +P GDHP
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Posted: 6/27/2003 4:01:45 AM EDT
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During winter months for more penetration I carry the heavier 147 Grain Winchester Supreme round. During summer months people don't wear heavy clothing so I carry the lighter 124 grain Remington Golden Sabers.
edited: had time to come back and edit post for clarity. |
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Posted: 6/27/2003 4:10:43 AM EDT
[#3]
145 gr Hydrashoks.
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Posted: 6/27/2003 4:19:38 AM EDT
[#4]
Ranger +P+ 124gr or Lawman +P 124gr
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Posted: 6/27/2003 4:26:51 AM EDT
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Performance-wise, how does a 9mm+P load stack up against the .40? I have a Sig P226 in 9mm that never sees the light of day as far as daily carry but would like to for the hi-capacity mags I have for it. I carry the Sig P229 in .40 S&W.
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Posted: 6/27/2003 4:37:00 AM EDT
[#6]
+P+ Ranger 124 gr.
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Posted: 6/27/2003 4:49:56 AM EDT
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MagSafe in the pipe, CorBon 115 gr +P in the magazines
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Posted: 6/27/2003 4:54:27 AM EDT
[#8]
Speer 124 gr. +P Gold Dot HPs. Ammoman has them in 250 round loose cartons for $89 per 500 rounds.
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Posted: 6/27/2003 5:13:49 AM EDT
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what sashmore said. Ammoman also has 115gr and 147gr golddots.
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Posted: 6/27/2003 5:32:00 AM EDT
[#10]
Ranger 127gr +P+..hot!
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Posted: 6/27/2003 5:41:16 AM EDT
[#11]
Speer 124 Gold Dot in a full size nine, 124+P GD in the compact.
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Posted: 6/27/2003 5:43:02 AM EDT
[#12]
124 gr Federal Hydra-Shok
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Posted: 6/27/2003 6:06:18 AM EDT
[#13]
another 124 grain golddot user here. Ronald
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Posted: 6/27/2003 6:07:05 AM EDT
[#14]
147gr Winchester Ranger SXT
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Posted: 6/27/2003 6:18:59 AM EDT
[#15]
CorBon 115gr +p and Hirtenberger 100gr +P+...!
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Posted: 6/27/2003 6:31:41 AM EDT
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Quoted: Speer 124 gr. +P Gold Dot HPs. Ammoman has them in 250 round loose cartons for $89 per 500 rounds. yeah, this is great stuff for the price I have some of the 127gr +P+ Ranger too (RA9TA) & I still like the Corbon +P 115gr & 125gr last stuff i got from them used Speer bullets (just HP's not the GDHP's) |
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Posted: 6/27/2003 6:50:44 AM EDT
[#17]
230 grain 45acp
[rolleyes] [flame] |
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Posted: 6/27/2003 7:41:16 AM EDT
[#18]
124 gr Federal Hydra-Shok
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Posted: 6/27/2003 8:07:57 AM EDT
[#19]
None. I carry .45acp!
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Posted: 6/27/2003 8:22:34 AM EDT
[#20]
Geco BAT
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Posted: 6/27/2003 8:30:42 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted: 124 gr Federal Hydra-Shok Yep. |
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Posted: 6/27/2003 8:55:43 AM EDT
[#22]
I've been carrying CorBon 115 gr +P for years, but I think I am going to switch to a heavier +P round.....maybe something in a 124 grain.
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Posted: 6/27/2003 9:05:42 AM EDT
[#23]
Just remember the Speer packed loose in 250 round boxes is range ammo only.
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Posted: 6/27/2003 9:13:18 AM EDT
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Quoted: Just remember the Speer packed loose in 250 round boxes is range ammo only. I heard that but after running hundreds of rounds of the 165gr .40S&W & the 124gr +P 9mm with NO problems I wonder WHY that would be the case ??? |
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Posted: 6/27/2003 9:22:43 AM EDT
[#25]
147 gr. +P in handguns; 115 gr. +P+ in carbines
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Posted: 6/27/2003 10:15:42 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Just remember the Speer packed loose in 250 round boxes is range ammo only. I heard that but after running hundreds of rounds of the 165gr .40S&W & the 124gr +P 9mm with NO problems I wonder WHY that would be the case ??? There were problems with the primers. It was problematic enough for Speer to deem the ammo unsuitable for law enforcement. I wouldn't risk it myself, especially since I can just buy a couple of boxes of ammo that I know are good and use that for when it counts. The bulk stuff is great to practice with, although I'm not sure the price is really that good. $10/50 for ammo Speer said they sell at a "substantial discount" may not be that great of a deal. |
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Posted: 6/27/2003 10:32:27 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted: 124 gr Federal Hydra-Shok Ditto. |
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Posted: 6/27/2003 10:35:00 AM EDT
[#28]
Winchester Ranger 147Gn RA9T
If that is unavailable, then anything from Black Hills, CCI, Georgia Arms, or Pro-load, loaded with the 124Gn Gold Dot Bullet. |
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Posted: 6/27/2003 11:24:13 AM EDT
[#29]
Winchester Black Talons
Are these old school or something? They used to be the sh*t but no one mentions them much on these boards... I need to start shootin my 9 more! For some silly reason I think that if they are banned(ish), they gotta be good, please show me the errors in my ways. gilfrd |
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Posted: 6/27/2003 12:19:57 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted: Winchester Black Talons Are these old school or something? They used to be the sh*t but no one mentions them much on these boards... I need to start shootin my 9 more! For some silly reason I think that if they are banned(ish), they gotta be good, please show me the errors in my ways. gilfrd Here's my theory on this. If I remember correctly, they stopped selling ammo that actually says "black talon" on the box about, hmmmm 5 years ago at least? Which means that any ammo that you find that says "black talon" is at least 5 years old. Which means that you're trusting your life to ammo that's been sitting around for 5 years? Personally I don't like to carry ammo for more than 6 months, let alone 5 years. Try the Rangers, they are the same thing IIRC. |
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Posted: 6/27/2003 12:53:39 PM EDT
[#31]
I carry Federal Classic 147gr JHP in mine. But I'm thinking of changing to either Cor-Bon, Winchester SXT, or Federal Classic 124gr Hydrashock +P. Of course I just use the cheap FMJ while at the range.
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Posted: 6/27/2003 12:58:47 PM EDT
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147 gr. Ebony Claws.
BigDozer66 |
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Posted: 6/27/2003 1:04:00 PM EDT
[#33]
I like either 147 Fed. Hydra-shok or for up close and personal Glaser. The Glaser doesn't do much for hard shell penetration but it sure as hell makes a good wound channel.
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Posted: 6/27/2003 1:11:22 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted: Winchester Ranger 147Gn What he said..... |
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Posted: 6/27/2003 1:11:45 PM EDT
[#35]
speer 124 gr gold dot hollow point + p in my glock 17
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Posted: 6/27/2003 1:37:32 PM EDT
[#36]
Ranger 147gr
My 9mm is not my goto gun anymore, but when it is. |
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Posted: 6/27/2003 1:56:19 PM EDT
[#37]
Quoted: Quoted: Winchester Black Talons Are these old school or something? They used to be the sh*t but no one mentions them much on these boards... I need to start shootin my 9 more! For some silly reason I think that if they are banned(ish), they gotta be good, please show me the errors in my ways. gilfrd Here's my theory on this. If I remember correctly, they stopped selling ammo that actually says "black talon" on the box about, hmmmm 5 years ago at least? Which means that any ammo that you find that says "black talon" is at least 5 years old. Which means that you're trusting your life to ammo that's been sitting around for 5 years? Personally I don't like to carry ammo for more than 6 months, let alone 5 years. Try the Rangers, they are the same thing IIRC. ...not to mention how the "Black Talon" stigma could ruin your day in a CIVIL suit following a shooting, no matter how justifiable... |
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Posted: 6/27/2003 2:00:55 PM EDT
[#38]
They changed the name to "Ranger XP" and quit painting them black, same quality.
Put away that sissy gun and get a .45![flame] and please spare us the 9mm hp > .45 hardball bs! stoke your .45 with hp's too! |
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Posted: 6/27/2003 2:06:59 PM EDT
[#39]
Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Winchester Black Talons Are these old school or something? They used to be the sh*t but no one mentions them much on these boards... I need to start shootin my 9 more! For some silly reason I think that if they are banned(ish), they gotta be good, please show me the errors in my ways. gilfrd Here's my theory on this. If I remember correctly, they stopped selling ammo that actually says "black talon" on the box about, hmmmm 5 years ago at least? Which means that any ammo that you find that says "black talon" is at least 5 years old. Which means that you're trusting your life to ammo that's been sitting around for 5 years? Personally I don't like to carry ammo for more than 6 months, let alone 5 years. Try the Rangers, they are the same thing IIRC. ...not to mention how the "Black Talon" stigma could ruin your day in a CIVIL suit following a shooting, no matter how justifiable... They are now Ranger SXT, same bullets. But Ranger SXT's are cheaper, newer and don't have a bad name. If you have noticed they are also what many of the above people use, myself included. Winchester 127gr Ranger SXT +P+ Edited to add a link so you can see some data on these rounds. [url]http://www.winchester.com/law/help/pdf.eye?get=LE2002.pdf[/url] |
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Posted: 6/27/2003 10:11:44 PM EDT
[#40]
Quoted: I like either 147 Fed. Hydra-shok or for up close and personal Glaser. The Glaser doesn't do much for hard shell penetration but it sure as hell makes a good wound channel. The Glaser typically gives you less than 5" of penetration. It is not quite worthless, but close, when you need to STOP your attacker. Check out the thread below, which will give you a number of loads to choose from that have all met FBI's testing specs (which are almost universally accepted as the standard for anti-personnel ammunition). [url]www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=16&t=162042[/url] My top choice is the one that has been the top performer since it was released: Winchester Ranger 147gr RA9T -Troy |
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Posted: 6/27/2003 10:30:57 PM EDT
[#41]
Federal 9BPLE +P+ 115gr HP
SIG P226 with one in the pipe and 14 in the mag. That's when I'm not carrying my .45 or .357. |
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Posted: 6/27/2003 10:34:05 PM EDT
[#42]
Quoted: .......to you carry? Very good. |
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Posted: 6/27/2003 10:40:14 PM EDT
[#43]
Winchester Ranger SXT 127gr +P+
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Posted: 6/27/2003 10:57:28 PM EDT
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I happen to have a box sitting right here.
[img]http://www.petenelson.com/temp/Ranger_SXT.jpg[/img] I took a tactical pistol class with [url=http://www.chucktaylorasaa.com/]Chuck Taylor[/url]. He recommended 147gr SXTs if you're using 9mm. |
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Posted: 6/28/2003 2:43:06 AM EDT
[#45]
115gr carbon
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Posted: 6/28/2003 5:43:26 AM EDT
[#46]
cor-bon 115gr +p in the large frames, 115gr SilverTips in the small frames.
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Posted: 6/28/2003 6:23:48 AM EDT
[#47]
I use those fiocchi 147gr rounds that cheaper then dirt had at a deal awhile back. They look just like the SXT's I got a few boxes of it I fired off over one of them they always functioned.
And I also got a 45 |
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Posted: 6/28/2003 6:31:37 AM EDT
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[url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=193315&page=1[/url]
I started this one discussing legal issues and carry loads. kinda ties in. mike |
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Posted: 6/28/2003 11:43:59 AM EDT
[#49]
124gr +P+ Hydra-Shok in my Beretta Elite, Proload 115gr +P in my Kahr MK9 but most of the time I carry a .45 ACP loaded with 230gr Golden Saber or Gold-Dot 230gr.
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Posted: 6/28/2003 12:01:51 PM EDT
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Carry Federal 9BPLE +p+ 115gr in my Sig 239 in the summer and a Sig 245 with 185gr +p Hornadys when things cool down a bit........UNDERDOG
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