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Link Posted: 6/26/2003 3:06:44 PM EDT
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PS

Why do we keep having these "gay" threads at AR 15.com, this is getting to fucking Kalifornaca around here.
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 3:08:07 PM EDT
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[size=5] You want to live in America and celebrate is freedoms. But only your idea of freedom! WTF? Here in America there are freedoms you are not going to like, but you have no say what's good for a group of people practicing those rights. You have no right to try and take away their rights[/size=5]


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What extra fucking rights are they entitled to just because the want to suck another guys dick?? Do NAMLBA members get extra rights too??

You weren't you paying attention. They can poke each other silly for all I care as long as
1. I don't have to see it or any other nasty [i]public[/i] displays.

2 They don't ask for any special treatment. They say they want to be treated 'equally' but in reality they want [b]special[/b] treatment.

Link Posted: 6/26/2003 3:17:07 PM EDT
[#3]
NO extra rights, but equal rights!

The right to not be harassed are the ones I promote.

This is the only country in the world that guarantees its citizens the pursuit of happiness.
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 3:25:09 PM EDT
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.....Others are just silent. [;)]
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Nothing wrong with that!  
Maybe I'll start a thread about my heterosexual monogamously moral lifestyle.....nah, there's nothing [i]"attention getting"[/i] or [i]"Look at me! Look at me!"[/i] about it. Nevermind.  

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That will work for me, I'm a big beleiver in monogamously moral lifestyles.
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Don’t misunderstand me.  I didn't only mean moral as in virtuous, but moral as in [b]right and wrong[/b] as well.  
Homosexuality is wrong in everyway beginning from the natural positive way things were designed to work, ie: it's counterproductive to the human race, and on the less general note it is spiritually/mentally counter productive.

[b]The number one reason [/b] for suicide in the criminal youth institutions here in Wa. is over issues of [or confusion of] sexuality.  Loss of loved one's and terminal medical condition is second and third.

[pun]I say ban homosexuality...it's for the children.[/pun]
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 4:36:04 PM EDT
[#5]
The gay agenda is all about the destruction of a moral society. By declaring all things, and any thing legal and moral, the concept of morals has been turned on its head and the inner rot of this country has speeded up by a geometric rate. We, the USA, are just like Rome, but due to the speed of the modern world... our rise and fall are being greatly pushed forward. The blatantly obvious destruction of our legal system by those who are state-ists and socialists ie Godless cretins... are the same foul degenerates who have passed these hate crime laws and pro homosexual laws and anti 2nd amendment laws. Check the voting record, they are all the same people. Judges creating laws through living document interpretation of the constitution.... pro homo, pro abortion and highly anti family.

Stoner student, it is the destruction of America to have the homo agenda alive and well in this country. The same insidious lies promoting it as a normal healthy lifestyle and telling our children in our schools that it is ok to have two daddies is KILLING THIS COUNTRY.

Its so basely and abjectly wrong and deviant that homosexuality is a mental aberration, not a lifestyle. It is deviancy at its basest. Keep it to yourself and your chosen deviants.... keep it out of our schools, off the TV and in your own domicile. We dont care what you do, just dont tell us. I never discuss my heterosexuality on discussion boards. Its MY business and nobody elses. Same with fags, dykes, trannys and any other "thing" you can think of. KEEP IT TO YOURSELF. NOBODY CARES WHAT YOU DO or HOW YOU DO IT. Have the danged common courtesy to keep your life and its "style" to yourself. Marriage is man/woman, not man/badger or man/reptile or man/man. It is a Christian concept in this country and it is how a society perpetuates itself and it DESERVES TO BE PROTECTED FROM THOSE WHO WOULD DESTROY IT.

I dont "hate" fags, nor do I fear them. Homophobe is such a foolish term. I know what fags are, what they do, how many diseases they routinely carry and how often they randomly have sex with other strange men. Dont patronize me with moral fags that are monogamous... they are the rarity and not the norm. Enjoy your diseases, you will get them sooner or later. But I do feel sorry for you, your perversion is an awful burden to bear.

Link Posted: 6/26/2003 4:57:18 PM EDT
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NO extra rights, but equal rights!

The right to not be harassed are the ones I promote.

This is the only country in the world that guarantees its citizens the pursuit of happiness.
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Bullshit!
what kind of shit is "the right not to be harased'??? Is that in the constitution??

It's not a right!!!!!

Is anyone guaranteeing my right not to be harrassed because I'm a white guy??? Fuck no- so no one else should have it either-that would be a 'extra right'.

You don't have a guarantee to happiness!! WTF did you hear that was a right everyone had???
I suppose that one's in the constitution too???

I'm supposed to have a constitutional right to keep and bear arms.

There is no right to be a dicksucker.
Why don't you just come out??
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 5:11:10 PM EDT
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[img]http://home.wi.rr.com/antigov/phelps.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 5:23:25 PM EDT
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Ya really want to know what pisses me off?

You're using up my fucking air.


Is there a genetic component?
Probably. Probably same for serial rapists and murderers. BFD.
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 5:29:48 PM EDT
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Why do we keep having these "gay" threads at AR 15.com, this is getting to fucking Kalifornaca around here.
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Why do you keep coming back to this thread is you're so offended by it?
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 5:30:40 PM EDT
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im sick to death of the gay threads, can we PLEASE give them the marpat treatment?!?!?!

[puke]
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 5:32:25 PM EDT
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I don't feels it right to force a church that doesn't accept gay people to accept me.But the state is another story, I pay taxes just like all of you and I what the same rights that you have.
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Marriage is an institution built around the perpetuation of the species. Homosexuals don't perpetuate the species, they destroy it.
The Natural Law concepts upon which our country was built, holds Marraige as between a Man, and a Woman.

It is neither, "Normal", nor "Natural", behavior.
It is contrary to Natural law, as well as God's law.
Recognition of homosexuals means another minority in the line in front of whitey! [:D]
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Ok...just how am I destroying marriage?
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I didn't say you were destroying "marriage", read it again..[;)]

.... and if Marriage is an institution built around the perpetuation of the species. That means that people who can't have children [medicaly]can't be married ether.
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They prolly don't know that at the time they're married, but when homos "marry", there's NO doubt! [:D]

And now we know were the name breeder comes from.
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I've got NO idea where that one came from, OR where it's goin'...[8D]
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 5:42:15 PM EDT
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This must be the part where you tell me a round peg fits in a square opening, and that it will eventually fit if I keep pushing hard enough?
I'm really disgusted with gays/lesbians due to the "lifestyle" being shoved up in my face. The self esteem factor must be low in a lot of these folks. Look at their actions and statements.Explains a whole bunch.
"Love me!" "Accept me!" ..WTF ever...

[img]www.finalfront.com/hosting/users/geepgeep/nopityA.gif[/img]

Take a look at the human anatomy. Just because we are intelligent enough to find new ways to "entertain" ourselves does not make it right in any light. Try and justify it all you want, but it's just not natural.

Best of luck in your endevors.

rigid out
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 5:54:28 PM EDT
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Stoner, this thread, is just ONE example of why a lot of us, are on the other side. Why is this in our FACE???

Do you think you don't have "equal" rights?? Maybe if you didn't trumpet the fact that you like sausage, rather than tuna, ya wouldn't have people running away from you!

I don't post my sexual preferance, why do you??
It's so you can put it in our Face!  [;D]

(Would you also show up at a shoot, in a pink g-string, wearing ostrich feathers, to proclaim your sexual "choice" to your fellow board members???  That's JUST what you are doing now)

So, ummmmmmm, Stoner,,??? Whats YOUR agenda???  Hmmmmmm?  [}:D]
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 6:08:47 PM EDT
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The gay agenda is all about the destruction of a moral society. By declaring all things, and any thing legal and moral, the concept of morals has been turned on its head and the inner rot of this country has speeded up by a geometric rate. We, the USA, are just like Rome, but due to the speed of the modern world... our rise and fall are being greatly pushed forward. The blatantly obvious destruction of our legal system by those who are state-ists and socialists ie Godless cretins... are the same foul degenerates who have passed these hate crime laws and pro homosexual laws and anti 2nd amendment laws. Check the voting record, they are all the same people. Judges creating laws through living document interpretation of the constitution.... pro homo, pro abortion and highly anti family.

Stoner student, it is the destruction of America to have the homo agenda alive and well in this country. The same insidious lies promoting it as a normal healthy lifestyle and telling our children in our schools that it is ok to have two daddies is KILLING THIS COUNTRY.

Its so basely and abjectly wrong and deviant that homosexuality is a mental aberration, not a lifestyle. It is deviancy at its basest. Keep it to yourself and your chosen deviants.... keep it out of our schools, off the TV and in your own domicile. We dont care what you do, just dont tell us. I never discuss my heterosexuality on discussion boards. Its MY business and nobody elses. Same with fags, dykes, trannys and any other "thing" you can think of. KEEP IT TO YOURSELF. NOBODY CARES WHAT YOU DO or HOW YOU DO IT. Have the danged common courtesy to keep your life and its "style" to yourself. Marriage is man/woman, not man/badger or man/reptile or man/man. It is a Christian concept in this country and it is how a society perpetuates itself and it DESERVES TO BE PROTECTED FROM THOSE WHO WOULD DESTROY IT.

I dont "hate" fags, nor do I fear them. Homophobe is such a foolish term. I know what fags are, what they do, how many diseases they routinely carry and how often they randomly have sex with other strange men. Dont patronize me with moral fags that are monogamous... they are the rarity and not the norm. Enjoy your diseases, you will get them sooner or later. But I do feel sorry for you, your perversion is an awful burden to bear.

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So I take it you're for it, then?

[;D]
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 6:38:29 PM EDT
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Stoner student, there is something I think you need to know here, lil' bro, and that is this; If ANYONE tried to put you in a "boxcar", I, and I'm sure others of MY persuasion, would NOT allow that to happen..... [%(]
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 7:08:39 PM EDT
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I don't have a problem with gays,I've had a gay roommate before.Really doesn't bother me,infact the gays I've known were some of the kindest most generous people I've met.

That said its not "natural" or "regular".

Tryin to put two inni's or two outties together isn't antural.Niether is sticking things in someones dirty poop hole.

Marriage is for a man and woman and to slap that tag on any arrangment so people can recieve the supposed benifits diminishes it.

I'm not real familiar with all the percieved "benifits"of marriage everyone is whining about,or that the same results can's be had in ways other than labeleing everything a marriage.

As far as insurance is concerned,those companies are all about money.They give breaks to married folks because it is percieved that marriage is a sign of maturity and added responsibilities that will change you from certain risky behaviours you might practice if you weren't in that kind of commitment.

If you've got wife and kids you're probably less likly to be out there street racing,or staying up all night drinking and driving or otherwise risking life ,limb and income.

As far as healthcare,what is it in this country about everyoone wanting the free care or perscriptions?

I'm sure health plans put married folks family on the policy because very often one of the adults is staying at home and raising the kids,thereby not able to earn coverage on there own.

Why should employers give someone a free ride just because they're shacking up with one of their employee's?

As far as real esate protecion(whatever that means)and inheritance issues,why not just make out a specific will or other legal agreemnet sso your "partner" is protected and taken care of?

I just see not real need to label same sex hook ups as marriage.

Its not marriage and most of the supposed concerns can be dealt with in other ways.

I also agree with whoever said if you want to be normal,be normal.

How can you argue that and at the same time have parades full of guys in G-strings rubbing  eachother down and "dykes on bikes" riding around with there pierced tits hangin out?

We shouldn't be teaching kids that gay lifestyles are normal and regular life choices.Teach them that it is oput there,but normal?

Hardly.

These "hate crimes" laws are the biggest fraud imaginable.I suspect they came about so liberals could kiss some minority ass and score points.

If murder is illegal,it should be just as awfull and punishable whether I'm gay,a cop,a federal employee or black.

We're all citizens and should be valued the same when crimes are commited against us.



Link Posted: 6/26/2003 7:11:05 PM EDT
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Stoner, this thread, is just ONE example of why a lot of us, are on the other side. Why is this in our FACE???

Do you think you don't have "equal" rights?? Maybe if you didn't trumpet the fact that you like sausage, rather than tuna, ya wouldn't have people running away from you!

I don't post my sexual preferance, why do you??
It's so you can put it in our Face!  [;D]

(Would you also show up at a shoot, in a pink g-string, wearing ostrich feathers, to proclaim your sexual "choice" to your fellow board members???  That's JUST what you are doing now)

So, ummmmmmm, Stoner,,??? Whats YOUR agenda???  Hmmmmmm?  [}:D]
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Well when you guys meet me you'll know why I would NEVER wear a pink g-string.I did wear a bola at a walk for breast cancer...once. I started this thread because I've heard about the special right thing all time and I want to know what you all thought gays wanted.[pretty simple really].
Anyway the reason why I told you guys I'm gay is also pretty simple.because the fag bash posts keep come up and I am not the kind of guy that just sit there like big sissy and gets slapped around.Just like I'm sure that if I posted AIRFORCE GUYS ARE PUSSIES I would have a whole world of shit fall on me.So I'll make you all a deal I will Never mention my lifestyle again...if you guys stop bitching about the queers . :]
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 7:12:52 PM EDT
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Is it wrong for the guy down the street to have sex with his dog? This [i]is[/i] a free country. But, how come the public schools don't teach that it's okay to have sex with dogs? Does anyone know?

First, they started teaching that faggots going at it is okay, so, what's to keep them from teaching that dog poking isn't okay?

Anyone notice what a pathetic place ARFCOM has become lately?
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 7:13:56 PM EDT
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Stoner student, there is something I think you need to know here, lil' bro, and that is this; If ANYONE tried to put you in a "boxcar", I, and I'm sure others of MY persuasion, would NOT allow that to happen..... [%(]
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Thanks....just watch out for all the 5.56mm spent brass and dead bodies.
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 7:18:12 PM EDT
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Stoner, this thread, is just ONE example of why a lot of us, are on the other side. Why is this in our FACE???
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Maybe because change won't come about until the issues are in your face?

Do you think Texas' sodomy law would've been overturned had the plaintiffs kept their arrest out of our faces?

On a similar note, would we have any gun rights whatsoever right now if the gun community didn't have "in-your-face" representatives?

While not every gay/lesbian person is the "in-your-face" sort of person, you might as well accept the fact that there will be a vocal "in-your-face" minority amongst the gay community, just as we have one in the gun community.
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 7:25:25 PM EDT
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Stoner, this thread, is just ONE example of why a lot of us, are on the other side. Why is this in our FACE???

Do you think you don't have "equal" rights?? Maybe if you didn't trumpet the fact that you like sausage, rather than tuna, ya wouldn't have people running away from you!

I don't post my sexual preferance, why do you??
It's so you can put it in our Face!  [;D]

(Would you also show up at a shoot, in a pink g-string, wearing ostrich feathers, to proclaim your sexual "choice" to your fellow board members???  That's JUST what you are doing now)

So, ummmmmmm, Stoner,,??? Whats YOUR agenda???  Hmmmmmm?  [}:D]
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Well when you guys meet me you'll know why I would NEVER wear a pink g-string.I did wear a bola at a walk for breast cancer...once.
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You ain't got a hair on yer ass unless you post a pic!!  [:X]

I started this thread because I've heard about the special right thing all time and I want to know what you all thought gays wanted.[pretty simple really].
Anyway the reason why I told you guys I'm gay is also pretty simple.because the fag bash posts keep come up and I am not the kind of guy that just sit there like big sissy and gets slapped around.Just like I'm sure that if I posted [size=5][red]AIRFORCE GUYS ARE PUSSIES[/red][/size=5] I would have a whole world of shit fall on me.So I'll make you all a deal I will Never mention my lifestyle again...if you guys stop bitching about the queers . :]
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Damn Internet!!! Couldja speak up a bit for this soon to be senile ol' fella??? [;D]
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 7:55:09 PM EDT
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Oh I can see the headline now....Man found dead at the computer....Photoshopped to death
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 8:16:23 PM EDT
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Anyone notice what a pathetic place ARFCOM has become lately?
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Give it a decade (after the homosexuals establish their voice), and next it will be....


Posted by: Who'sYerDaddy!?

Oh deary me, I probably shoulden't do this.  As a NAMBLA member myself, I would like to know what you think of the ARFcom NAMBLA members and their needs?
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It'll certainly be the "in-your-face" minority NAMBLA members we woulden't be able to run from anymore!
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 8:42:53 PM EDT
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Anyway the reason why I told you guys I'm gay is also pretty simple.because the fag bash posts keep come up and I am not the kind of guy that just sit there like big sissy and gets slapped around.Just like I'm sure that if I posted AIRFORCE GUYS ARE PUSSIES I would have a whole world of shit fall on me.So I'll make you all a deal I will Never mention my lifestyle again...if you guys stop bitching about the queers . :]
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Nah. Go ahead and keep making an ass out of yourself. Besides, I need the laughs. It looks to me like you do like getting bitch slapped around. Later, ya big sissy.
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 9:39:43 PM EDT
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I really don't want be out with my wife having a big ol' steak and swinging her across the dance floor and looking next to me and seeing 2 guys dancing together.  I don't want my kids going to school and the teacher telling them it's "normal" to be poked in the poop chute (male OR female sodomy)...I don't want to see 2 guys OR girls (even if they're hot!) kissing while in public or on the TV. And don't tell me to change the channel. I pay for cable and if there are going to be dudes or chicks kissing or feeling eachother up, then there should be a warning. Have a gay channel..there are already "special interest group" channels out there..Why not? These are MY rights, and your rights stop where mine start.

Homo's deserve nothing special..No race, religion, creed, or sexual orientation deserves anything special for being who they are. The ONLY people who do deserve special treatment are the handicapped..PERIOD!!!!!

(I might make an exception for the veterans [;)])


Silly fag..Dicks are for chicks!

(To comply with ARF.COM rules, the above comment was not made to anyone specifically on this board [:D]}  

Oh yeah, IBTL
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 10:03:42 PM EDT
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StonerStudent

Kudos to you for coming out on AR15.com.

"Not Natural?" Look at the animal kingdom again, homosexuality occurs there as well. It is a natural occurance.

Anal sex is anal sex, if it's ok for breeders it's ok for gays. How about Lesbians? Are they ok if they don't have anal sex? How about oral sex? Same there as well.

The christian arguements don't work, I'm like most of the world, I'm not a christian.

I wish it was funny that some people here rag on liberals because they rely on "feelings." Your homophobia is based on "feelings" as well.

Gays don't want special rights, they want the rights afforded them by our Constitution.
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 10:14:46 PM EDT
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I really don't want be out with my wife having a big ol' steak and swinging her across the dance floor and looking next to me and seeing 2 guys dancing together.  I don't want my kids going to school and the teacher telling them it's "normal" to be poked in the poop chute (male OR female sodomy)...I don't want to see 2 guys OR girls (even if they're hot!) kissing while in public or on the TV. And don't tell me to change the channel. I pay for cable and if there are going to be dudes or chicks kissing or feeling eachother up, then there should be a warning. Have a gay channel..there are already "special interest group" channels out there..Why not? These are MY rights, and your rights stop where mine start.

Homo's deserve nothing special..No race, religion, creed, or sexual orientation deserves anything special for being who they are. The ONLY people who do deserve special treatment are the handicapped..PERIOD!!!!!

(I might make an exception for the veterans [;)])


Silly fag..Dicks are for chicks!

(To comply with ARF.COM rules, the above comment was not made to anyone specifically on this board [:D]}  

Oh yeah, IBTL
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Well redneck....my rights go where I say they do...I willing to back that up.
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 10:25:18 PM EDT
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Actually thats exactly what liberals do,label everyone that doesn't agree with them homophobic,racist,ect.

I'm Christian,like most of America.

All kinds of vile,brutal shit happens in the "animal kingdom".

That doesn't make it "natural" for human beings.

Are humans not above wild creatures/animals?

Homosexuals are afforded all the rights in the constitution just like every other citizen in this country,just not "special status".

What constitutional rights are they being denied?
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 10:33:13 PM EDT
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StonerStudent

Kudos to you for coming out on AR15.com.

"Not Natural?" Look at the animal kingdom again, homosexuality occurs there as well. It is a natural occurance.

Anal sex is anal sex, if it's ok for breeders it's ok for gays. How about Lesbians? Are they ok if they don't have anal sex? How about oral sex? Same there as well.

The christian arguements don't work, I'm like most of the world, I'm not a christian.

I wish it was funny that some people here rag on liberals because they rely on "feelings." Your homophobia is based on "feelings" as well.

Gays don't want special rights, they want the rights afforded them by our Constitution.
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The "animal kingdom" arguement is weak. Animals don't know better! WE DO! Animals instinctively screw to reproduce. If an animal tries to screw another animal of the same sex it's because they think the other animal is the opposite sex.

Your arguement is baseless..

The rights afforded to them by the Constitution? Where does it say that un-natural acts are a Constitutional right? Then it must be a Constitutional right for NAMBLA to do what they do. Or for pedophiles to do what they do. Or for people who screw animals to do what they do...

And, if you say that what two consenting people do behind doors is ok, then being a 13 year old prostitute should be legal...Or the teacher who got knocked up twice by her 15 year old student should get out of jail. Oh wait, you mean consenting "ADULTS" huh? How about the caregiver in a group home that impregnates the retarded "adult" when she "thinks" she is in love with him? She consented...Oh wait, she can't think for herself..Well, they say homosexuals are missing a chromasome..Some XY factor thing...Well, if that's the case, wouldn't they also be classified as mentally handicapped? Not normal?

There are some things that are un-natural and some that are immoral..Homosexuality is both (in my opinion, which I am entitled to under the Constitution)...

BTW, I am not homophobic. Having a phobia means having a fear of something. I am not affraid of homosexuals. I have homosexual friends and they know where I stand and we agree to disagree.
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Well redneck....my rights go where I say they do...I willing to back that up.
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This is EXACTLY the attitude many are talking about here. You are going to do what you want to do, when you want to do it, and stick it in their face whether they like it or not or whether it violates their rights.... And you have the cojones to ask straight people what we think...

*sigh*
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 11:06:10 PM EDT
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Well redneck....my rights go where I say they do...I willing to back that up.
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This is EXACTLY the attitude many are talking about here. You are going to do what you want to do, when you want to do it, and stick it in their face whether they like it or not or whether it violates their rights.... And you have the cojones to ask straight people what we think...

*sigh*
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I don't do anything in public that most of you wouldn't do.If you mean that me and the boyfriend having dinner in a restaurant.Or walking holding hands is sticking it in your face than yes I'm going to be in your face.And if someone thinks that some how they have the god given right to walk up and get stupid,I will deal with that .
Link Posted: 6/27/2003 4:35:17 AM EDT
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I really don't have a problem with the homosexual community, as long as they keep low key.  One place I kind of felt angered against the gay community was when several employee's of the company that I work for went to the top and demanded equal benifits as married couples otherwise the ACLU would get involved, and the company folded to the gays.  Now where's the fairness in that.  I'm sorry but if you don't get married, you shouldn't get married benifits.  If you want to force the company that you work for to bend to your lifestyle, you should take into account how many of your fellow workers you are alienating.  Frankly it all boils down to the fact that we live in a society now run by special interest groups.  Please don't get me started on affirmative action.
Link Posted: 6/27/2003 4:57:08 AM EDT
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Yes, imagine our audacity in not supporting laws that may shroud us from things we don't want to see, or even want to exist.  That might make us (eek!), believers in freedom.
Link Posted: 6/27/2003 5:01:37 AM EDT
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exactly. Im a christian and I dont get why you guys keep bringing this crap up. Yes I believe homosexuality is a sin. Why? Because the word of God says that a man shall not be with a man as a man is with a woman.

The word of God says that it is wrong. But I wont shove it down your throat because I know what that feels like from my gay counterparts. Thats the way I believe like it or not. You can make your own choice about it.

I will also not try to judge you about it because the word of God says that it is not man's place to judge. remember "dont try to remove the spinter from your brother's eye when there is a plank in your own eye."

What you do behind closed doors is your business. But once you come out into public view you are open to scrutiny and critique. its just somthing your going to have to live with.

I never will think that homosexuality is normal. not by any stretch of the imagination. But theres not alot of anything I can do about it. So basically what Im saying is that while I disagree with you and I think your wierd I do NOT hate you.

I do however think that there are certain limitations to what a gay person can do. such as being a boy scout leader or being a minister in a church. and thats not hate thats just common sense.

so are gay guys really like those guys on will and grace?
Link Posted: 6/27/2003 5:28:38 AM EDT
[#35]
Few points :

At this point breeding is COUNTERPRODUCTIVE to the human race, there's too many people moving in to what used to be good shooting ranges !


Secondly pedophilia is NOT ok because kids cannot give consent. It is not comparable to homosexuality where consenting individuals are involved.
Link Posted: 6/27/2003 5:59:52 AM EDT
[#36]
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Hey if two gay men want to gewt married. Who cares? I dont know why it bothers people so much? I guess I can understand all the brainwashed bible thumpers going nuts, hell they will never change. But really... what does anyone care what two gay men or women do in the bedroom? If it isnt hurting anyone who gives a fuck!
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[b]What he said![/b]
Link Posted: 6/27/2003 6:38:46 AM EDT
[#37]
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I don't do anything in public that most of you wouldn't do.If you mean that me and the boyfriend having dinner in a restaurant.Or walking holding hands is sticking it in your face than yes I'm going to be in your face.And if someone thinks that some how they have the god given right to walk up and get stupid,I will deal with that .
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This is my final word on any of these homosexual topics,
StonerStudent you say you will deal with it if someone gets stupid?
If I am walking in  public park with my kids and you are sitting on a park bench tongue kissing your botfriend infront of my children tough guy you better be able to deal with it because something bad will befall someone real quick, but maybe not ,if I was alone with my kids I wouldn't expose them to the harsh reality of violence.
Link Posted: 6/27/2003 6:45:05 AM EDT
[#38]
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Quoted:

Homosexuality is not a sin. Practicing homosexuality is.
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And you start it all out with the irrelevancy of religious Bullshit! [rolleyes]


The stomach turning aspects of homosexuality are many. But let's sidestep the obvious disgust involved in imagining the actual act of a man ramming his penis into another's rectum for sexual pleasure. Although that does bring up a question. If you are capable of performing such an act, what exactly will you NOT stick your penis in? A dog? A blender? It's pretty sick from an anatomical standpoint.
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Sort of like the anti gunners they try to paint an emotional picture to most that would make them want to side with you just to be on the "good side"

Not going to happen. Men rammed their dicks in female ass's too ya know.


The most unaddressed and most sickening aspect of the whole subject is the concept of "normalizing" such behavior. Hey! It's "natural" to be gay. It's "normal" to be gay! It's genetic!
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Not Normalization, but saying its your right to practice gay relationships.

[size=2] You want to live in America and celebrate is freedoms. But only your idea of freedom! WTF? Here in America there are freedoms you are not going to like, but you have no say what's good for a group of people practicing those rights. You have no right to try and take away their rights[/size=2]



If its natural or genetic, why do programs like Exodus have such high success rates? The next issue will be pedophilia. "It's genetic. They have no choice in their sexual orientation." Then zoophilia, etc.
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And who is saying these programs work? The people who run these programs? OFCOURSE THEY SAY IT WORKS! [stick]



Remember the RKBA parable - "They came for my rifle, and I said nothing...." It holds true for these sexual orientation issues as well. "They screwed each others ass and I said nothing..." There is clearly a line in the sand. Most people choose to ignore it.
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They can not confiscate "people" Your point in bunk.


I really get sick of some people on this site saying stuff like, "Hey, if they don't bother me, it's OK." Again, bullshit. Most of this "tolerance wisdom" is spouted by 20-year-olds who actually believe they know jack shit about life or the world. [/red]
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Well, I don't hunt and I don't like to hunt. But IT doesnt not offend me so I am not going to be ANTI-Hunting/hunters. Its called minding my own business and not judging others...look into it.

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I hate to prolong this thread for one more post, but I have to call bullshit on M4.

Which M4 are you?
Some examples of the duplicity of his previous topics and posts.

[b]Topics:[/b]
Am I a Liberal?
And Liberals say we are stupid....
Some Christians make me want to spit
Will there be guns in heaven
[b]Posts:[/b]

[b]Quoted:[/b] What the hell are you worried about either the bible or some church nit saying?

[b]Quoted:[/b]
And you start it all out with the irrelevancy of religious Bullshit!

[b]Quoted:[/b]
Well then that makes total sense.
Whever i am in Church i always worry about some Muslim not coming in and shooting or blowing up the place. Thats why i awlays sit in the back with my little "Rosco" at the ready.[]

[b]Quoted:[/b]
Well, what do you think? Will Jesus,Allah,Judaic, Buddha or another god let me shoot till my hearts content?

[b]Quoted:[/b]
Hey if two gay men want to gewt married. Who cares?

I dont know why it bothers people so much?

I guess I can understand all the brainwashed bible thumpers going nuts, hell they will never change.

But really... what does anyone care what two gay men or women do in the bedroom? If it isnt hurting anyone who gives a fuck!


A 24-yo desperately searching for something relevant to say.

And two final words Spell Check.

Link Posted: 6/27/2003 6:48:08 AM EDT
[#39]
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...me and the boyfriend having dinner in a restaurant.Or walking holding hands...
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[puke]  Dang, I've met my limit.  Y'all have fun - I've got to go to the "girl with the Kimber" thread to erase this mental image.
CR
Link Posted: 6/27/2003 10:06:26 AM EDT
[#40]
I guess we will have to become so discerning that we can tell when two girls holding hands are merely being friends or lesbians.  Then we will have to make the same discernment about middle eastern looking men holding hands or kissing, are they Islamic or gay?

Not to mention all sorts of customs from all over the world that we will have to judge by our keen powers of observation and omniscience to determine correctness.

KISS

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

Love thy neighbor as thyself.

This is a pretty good and simple beginning.  Why start from the other end where we will employ lawyers to slice the truth exceedingly thin?
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 2:32:59 PM EDT
[#41]
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Boy I'm going to reget this.. I have been following the gay posts here and I [as a gay man]would really like to know what you all think the "gay agenda" wants . [special rights],I'm trying to be open to both sides kind of guy.
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Seriously I don't care if you are gay. Not really my business or my concern, I got bigger things to worry about.

However, I am pissed about some special rights any specific interest gets.

I don't like Hate Crime laws and homosexuals are one group protected by them. I understand the "intent" but in practice you end up with "thought crimes." If I beat you up (for any reason) or burn down your house (for any reason) charge me with assault or arson. You you legislate "thinking" you no longer have freedom, and we don't.

I don't like your fucking parades. I don't get a parade with floats loaded with drunk, horny, almost naked stripper quality babes who will do a little street hanky panky with me in the interest of promoting a heterosexual lifestyle so neither should you. I don't get my parade, you shouldn't get your parade.

I don't like ANY agenda that demands I accept it. I will reject it on those grounds alone. This means I don't want to see two fucking guys kissing on Melrose Place. My lifestyle isn't represented on TV eitehr so deal with it. If Melrose Place doesn't have a survivalist who wears tiger stripe BDUs with a AR15 who tells the rest of the building they are a bunch of fucking socialists then why should you be represented and a homosexual egenda promoted to me.

Now if you get your own "gay tv" channel that is subscriber only like Playboy TV or OLN, something like "The Flamers Network" then that is fine, just warn me. Otherwise I don't want to see fags when I watch TV and I don't want to have to explain to my kids why two men are kissing.

So bsically do what you want but don't bother me with it. Be gay. Have a gay party, and shove bowling pins up your asses for fun and amusement. I don't care, it's not my business. But at the same time don't come around telling me I have to be aware of accepting of your lifestyle. I won't be. And if you try and force me to accept it you will get a more negative reaction.

I hope this helps and leads to a better understanding and greater tolerance of each others freedoms. [:D]
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Now THERE gents, ladies and others, is a man who thinks EXACTLY like I do. Almost scarey matter of fact. My brainwaves being sucked outta my head.
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 4:59:19 PM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:
This is my final word on any of these homosexual topics,
StonerStudent you say you will deal with it if someone gets stupid?
If I am walking in  public park with my kids and you are sitting on a park bench tongue kissing your botfriend infront of my children tough guy you better be able to deal with it because something bad will befall someone real quick, but maybe not ,if I was alone with my kids I wouldn't expose them to the harsh reality of violence.
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That's a hell of a threat!!  So basically you want to teach your kids it's okay to beat someone just because they bother you???

Do you beat your kids also when they don't do something you like?

SGtar15
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 5:33:22 PM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
Quoted:
This is my final word on any of these homosexual topics,
StonerStudent you say you will deal with it if someone gets stupid?
If I am walking in  public park with my kids and you are sitting on a park bench tongue kissing your botfriend infront of my children tough guy you better be able to deal with it because something bad will befall someone real quick, but maybe not ,if I was alone with my kids I wouldn't expose them to the harsh reality of violence.
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That's a hell of a threat!!  So basically you want to teach your kids it's okay to beat someone just because they bother you???

Do you beat your kids also when they don't do something you like?

SGtar15
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I think what he's saying is this: [i]That kind of perverted crap shoulden't be played out in front of peoples kid's or in public, because it's f***ing gross, perverted and freakish.[/i]

I dont blame him for thinking that way about it.
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 5:36:16 PM EDT
[#44]
Personally, as long as its done in private so my kids (and I if I'm eating dinner) aren't exposed to it, adults should be able to engage in whatever consensual sex they desire as long as it doesn't involve children or domesticated livestock.

But.. that being said..I can't help but remember Andrew Dice Clay in "The Diceman Cometh":

"And these gay guys always with the "We want our rights! We want our rights!" You want your right? OK! 50 percent off of Vaseline! Now get the fuck back in the closet!"
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 5:38:45 PM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:
Quoted:
This is my final word on any of these homosexual topics,
StonerStudent you say you will deal with it if someone gets stupid?
If I am walking in  public park with my kids and you are sitting on a park bench tongue kissing your boyfriend infront of my children tough guy you better be able to deal with it because something bad will befall someone real quick, but maybe not, if I was alone with my kids I wouldn't expose them to the harsh reality of violence.
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That's a hell of a threat!!  So basically you want to teach your kids it's okay to beat someone just because they bother you???

Do you beat your kids also when they don't do something you like?

SGtar15
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You really need a remedial reading course so you can understand what I typed.
That's not a threat, if you understand the law, we are talking about a situation that has not occurred, so who did I threaten?
Two imaginary homo's?

No, I don't beat my children, but it's none of you fucking business if I did use corporal punishment on my kids.

Well, I would rather teach them that being queer is wrong and that kind of behavior is wrong and sometimes gets punished then to let  them grow up like your kids are according to your statements and thinking it's OK to suck another mans dick.
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 6:01:51 PM EDT
[#46]
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Well, I would rather teach them that being queer is wrong and that kind of behavior is wrong and sometimes gets punished then to let  them grow up like your kids are according to your statements and thinking it's OK to suck another mans dick.
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No shit. The only thing that would ever make me disown one of my kids was finding out they were a fag. There ain't nothing about it that's ok, period. Their fathers must be soooo proud.
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 6:08:40 PM EDT
[#47]
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I just saw your sig ,I like it ,it states exactly how I feel about gun grabbing liberals.
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 6:23:59 PM EDT
[#48]
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No shit. The only thing that would ever make me disown one of my kids was finding out they were a fag.
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The very best thing that could happen to them, IMHO.  Either that, or forcibly removed by Family Services.
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 6:30:58 PM EDT
[#49]
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No shit. The only thing that would ever make me disown one of my kids was finding out they were a fag. There ain't nothing about it that's ok, period. Their fathers must be soooo proud.
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Ok. How about if he turned out to be a Democrat?[;)]

Unless he's a truly bad seed, a parent's love for his child should be unconditional. If not, it's time to rethink your priorities.

Link Posted: 6/28/2003 6:32:10 PM EDT
[#50]
"Thinking" is obviously not one of his strong suits.
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