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Posted: 6/23/2003 5:14:05 PM EDT
Ok, Friday my dumbass was playing basketball... in sandals... while drinking. I went up for a jumpshot and my opponent gave me a nice shove into the grass. I thought I broke my ankle so went to the ER but they said it was a really bad sprain. Fine, so I'll do some rehab and all will be good. Well, it's now Monday and my entire lower leg looks like it's about to fall off. Docs - is this normal for a severe sprain? Should I make an appointment to see an orthopedic doctor or just suck it up? [img]http://bogpoop.myftpsite.net/AR15/Ankle.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 6/23/2003 5:18:37 PM EDT
dude, that don't look good, in fact it looks really bad. get a second oppinion. now...
Link Posted: 6/23/2003 5:19:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/23/2003 5:28:09 PM EDT by sherm8404]
Link Posted: 6/23/2003 5:22:59 PM EDT
My left foot looked about like that after I ripped a bunch of ligaments and tendons up to my knee. Get it checked out...my foot was swollen/mangled enough it took 3 docs and two sets of xrays to determine if I had hairline fractures over the top of my foot. Luckily I didn't...I'd head in if I was you, Bro!
Link Posted: 6/23/2003 5:23:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/23/2003 5:25:05 PM EDT by keving67]
Yeah, thats normal or at least in my experience. I agree with Sherm8404, take some weight off of it. But definately get a second opinion from a podiatrist or orthopedic surgeon, especially the orthopedic surgeon because he is more likely to order an MRI
Link Posted: 6/23/2003 5:26:11 PM EDT
Originally Posted By sherm8404: That can be normal for a severe sprain. You could even have bruising on the other side of your foot. Especially a grade 3 sprain. You should have at least crutches, if not some type of splint or ankle orthosis(a movement restricting boot) or brace. Rehab should start in 2-4 weeks after the injury.
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Good call - in fact there is plenty of bruising on the other side... [XX(] [img]http://bogpoop.myftpsite.net/AR15/Ankle2.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 6/23/2003 5:30:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/23/2003 5:31:32 PM EDT by sherm8404]
Link Posted: 6/23/2003 5:32:17 PM EDT
Brusing is blood....... You tore something. I'm no Dr. but I'd get a second opinion. What Sherm said until then... Rest Ice Compression Elevation
Link Posted: 6/23/2003 5:34:38 PM EDT
Sprains occur when ligaments are torn or stretched. Most occur laterally or on the oustide of anke joints. A sprain can be excrutiatingly painful. The most severe sprain occurs when the entire ligament is torn and there is instability in the joint. I would assume xrays were done and the films read by a radiologist. If no fracture, then usually the treatment is the RICE method. Rest, ice, compression and elevation. Sprains can take 3 - 8 weeks to heal. If you have any concerns follow up with your primary care physician always. TT [wave]
Link Posted: 6/23/2003 5:36:52 PM EDT
[shock] [puke]
Link Posted: 6/23/2003 5:41:17 PM EDT
Amputate now!
Link Posted: 6/23/2003 5:45:00 PM EDT
before you get a second opinion, at least change your skirt.
Link Posted: 6/23/2003 5:51:28 PM EDT
...looks like one of them Brown Recluses got ya... DrMark (PhD, not MD)
Link Posted: 6/23/2003 6:16:48 PM EDT
Yes, can I have your Ar's?
Link Posted: 6/23/2003 6:20:31 PM EDT
Looks like you have high ankle sprain. If you can bear weight on it, its probably ok. Did they take Xrays at the hospital? If its not broken. All you can do is support it best you can. Wrap it and elevate it when you can. Rest and ice as well. Motrin will do you best. It will relieve pain as well as take some of the swelling down. The other option is to get an axe and cut it off. If you were playing a real sport like football you would have broken it. At least you werent playing soccer.
Link Posted: 6/23/2003 6:30:32 PM EDT
Your a gonner! Seriously though i'll pray for your health!
Link Posted: 6/23/2003 6:31:36 PM EDT
I guess RICE is a pretty popular answer - will certainly start doing that. I have already iced and elevated it some on the advise of others, no thanks to the ER doc. Bitch didn't give me the time of day. She just said it wasn't broken and gave me a precription for 800mg Motrin... like I can't get that over the counter, blah! I am able to walk on it tenderly now with only some pain if I don't bend the joint too much. So, I figured it couldn't be ALL that bad. I will probably skip out on the orthopedic doc just because I'm one of those guys... unless it gets worse that is. I previously broke the same ankle about 10 years ago, so I'm sure the ligaments are already behind as far as strength and what not. I've been doing alot of squats while working out for the past year so hopefully I can start that up soon to build the strength back up. Thanks for the advise.
Link Posted: 6/23/2003 6:32:08 PM EDT
Looks much like mine when I jumped down a flight of steps in highschool not remembering there was a little half step at the bottom and rolled it up. Hate to say it but if its not broken (mine wasn't) it could be a long time healing. Took 2-3 weeks to be able to walk on it enough to be useful without crutches. Then a couple (maybe 3-4 months) to get back to where I could run on it. Basically streached the tendons to the point of breaking but not quite... if the bone had given probably would have been in a cast for a month and off to the races. Still tape it 15 years later but I'm sure the 6 years of rugby didn't help it any. That said a 2nd opinion isn't a bad idea, I gave up after my Dr and a couple of the sports med specialists looked at it with the same diagnosis.
Link Posted: 6/23/2003 6:33:12 PM EDT
Pussy, just have another beer. [:D]
Link Posted: 6/23/2003 6:52:25 PM EDT
800mg motrin is prescription unless youre in Canadia. You can take 4 200mgs for the samw effect. Dont take too many or you will kill your liver.
Link Posted: 6/23/2003 6:59:39 PM EDT
Most ER doctors don't know shit about non death injuries. ER doctors miss alot of fractures. A sprain can look that bad, but you may have also fractured yor tibia, fibula, or if you were lucky enough those two plus you talus. A sprain to the deltoid ligament (inside of ankle ) is generally more serious than the outside, however lateral sprains can involve the fibula, which can mean cast and or surgery. Go see someone who knows what they are talking about and get radiographs. To see a specialist (orthopedist you will have to get a referral from another physician. Keep doing the rice thing. Don't be such a tight ass and go get a second opinion. If your like most people on here you will spend $400 for a SIR or a vertical surefire, so splurge on yourself and get your ankle properly examined.
Link Posted: 6/23/2003 7:01:27 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/23/2003 7:23:08 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/23/2003 7:39:38 PM EDT
amputate immediately! [:D]
Link Posted: 6/23/2003 7:53:36 PM EDT
Looks to me like a job for...[red][size=4]Dr. Giggles[/size=4][/red] [banana][chainsaw] [chainsawkill][snoopy] [img]http://www.hundland.com/posters/d/DrGiggles.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 6/23/2003 8:05:38 PM EDT
Listen, Everyone has given you good advice so far, I had a similar injury when I was young and didn't get the second opinion or do the therapy, sure it healed but I still have problems with it years later.... Get the second opinion and maybe some therapy and save yourself alot of potential pain down the road.
Link Posted: 6/23/2003 8:27:27 PM EDT
Originally Posted By illigb: Amputate now!
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[LOL] This place never ceases to amaze me!
Link Posted: 6/23/2003 8:34:43 PM EDT
Shoot your nuts off.
Link Posted: 6/23/2003 8:43:35 PM EDT
Originally Posted By illigb: Amputate now!
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Son of a gun. You beat me to it!
Link Posted: 6/24/2003 5:55:56 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ARDOC: 800mg motrin is prescription unless youre in Canadia. You can take 4 200mgs for the samw effect. Dont take too many or you will kill your liver.
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True, however the optimal dosage of Motrin is 600mg. The small analgesic effect one receives from an additional 200 mg is outweighed by the potential side effects of the additional 200 (GI and liver). TT
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