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Posted: 6/21/2003 9:34:21 PM EDT
America, is nothing more than a hypocritical collection of assholes and dumb shits that has a joke hold on the world market because of a few great men in the 19th and 20th century. Everyone spews this crap about we are the only county that does stuff to help humanitarian crisis, that we are a great nation that does much for the world, but that is bullshit. Everything the United States does is to help itself, and if we help you along the way, so what, if we kill you along the way so what. I look back and I see no conflict that wasn't joined for an altruistic reason, every war we've been in was because we wanted personal gain. The war on terrorism is not about making the world safe for everyone, it's about making the world safe for America. America is not a great country, it i simply a great military, the two are infinitly different. [b]Next time you find youself talking about the greatness of this country, I want you to stop and try to name one good thing we've done that hasn't been in the name of our posterity.[/b] http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=14475&forum=DCForumID70#24
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 9:36:10 PM EDT
Those people never cease to find new ways to piss me off.
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 9:40:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/21/2003 9:40:18 PM EDT by chetchat]
Originally Posted By raven: ... that has a joke hold on the...
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The only joke that guy is holding is between his legs.
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 9:43:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/21/2003 9:44:08 PM EDT by Valkyrie]
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty [red][size=3]to ourselves and our Posterity[/red][/size=3], do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. And their problem is what?
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 9:47:36 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Valkyrie: We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty [red][size=3]to ourselves and our Posterity[/red][/size=3], do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. And their problem is what?
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Well, having read heaps of horse shit from people at that site, it's safe to conclude that they really don't give much of a rat's ass for the Constitution.
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 9:51:56 PM EDT
Socialist doctrine is my deduction. These types are for a world gov't and a United Federation of Planets. [Riker]Red Alert! Sheilds Up!/[Riker] "[picard]Set a course for the United Nations, warp 8.5...Engage![/picard]
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 9:54:15 PM EDT
Originally Posted By chetchat:
Originally Posted By raven: ... that has a joke hold on the...
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The only joke that guy is holding is between his legs.
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ahahahahahahaha ROFL [ROFL][ROFL2] Ahhhhh thats a good one. Must go clean the dr. pepper off the screen. thank you chetchat.
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 9:54:59 PM EDT
What is your fucking point? I wonder who invented the computer you used to post this here? hehehe.......
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 9:56:12 PM EDT
If they don't like it... [b][size=6]MOVE THE FUCK OUT![/size=6][/b]
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 9:58:36 PM EDT
i don't know why you guys even bother reading their drivel
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 10:04:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/21/2003 10:06:07 PM EDT by front-sight-poster]
and.....the light bulb and the automobile and the airplane and polio vaccine and heart transplant and air conditioning and chemotherapy and the tube launched opticaly tracked wire guided missile and the nuclear submarine and the AR15 and compact disc and the laser range finder and Mettalica. Are you seeing the picture here?
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 10:27:08 PM EDT
Pick a better country than the US. Then go there.
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 10:31:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/21/2003 10:37:24 PM EDT by The_Macallan]
[blue]* * * I guess now's a good a time as any for me to repost this * * * [/blue] =================================================================== There's one thing that has been bothering me for a loooooooong time. That's all we here from so-called "Patriotic" Americans is that America isn't pulling it's weight, that the US needs to "do more" and that we "owe" the world more. In the recent defeat of the [url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A8812-2002Apr18.html]ANWR Bill[/url] in the Senate, this single quote from that highly decorated Vietnam Veteran and "patriotic" Senator John Kerry says it all: [i]John Kerry (D-MA), who has led the filibuster against refuge drilling, said [u]the United States has 3 percent of the world's oil and uses 25 percent of the world's supply[/u]. [/i] [b]I have had ENOUGH of this America-the-wasteful-selfish-aggressive-brute mentality - ESPECIALLY from our own people!!!![/b][pissed] The United States has [b]less than 5%[/b] of the world's population and yet accounts for: 25% of UN Peacekeeping costs 30% of the Pan American Health Organization budget 25% of the UN Food and Agriculture Organization costs 14% of UNESCO budget 25% of the UN World Meteorological Organization funding 13% of WHO operating budget 20% of the World Bank Group funding 30% of the World Food Program 25% of the United Nations total budget 28% of the entire world's GDP We are the world's policemen, breadbasket, grocery store, soup kitchen, free clinic, homeless/immigrant shelter and technological catalyst. We have the best biomedical research facilities, the best health-care centers and the finest Universities in the world. We have the best-trained doctors, the brightest scientists, most Nobel Prize winners and are the world's leader all aspects of science and technology. We are spearheading the development of most of the new vaccines and antibiotics that will be GIVEN to the rest of the world. We are the last bastion of true Freedom and Liberty and Individualism left in the world. People risk their lives EVERY DAY to cross our border for the greatness that too many of us take for granted. Nowhere else can you have as much freedom to express your views, worship your God, earn as much as your abilities allow, own what you want and defend what you have more than in the United States of America. When a nation like Kuwait is invaded, the US leads the defense. When Bosnia erupts in chaos, the US leads the peace-enforcers. When Africa is repeatedly plagued by disease, the US funds and supplies the majority of medical care. When Israel and Palestinians are killing each other, the US is looked to by the world to broker a peace agreement. When civilization itself is attacked by radical terrorists around the world, WE are the only ones able to even BEGIN to fight back. We've saved the world from three tyrannical empires in just the last 50 years. And if we've benefitted from these accomplishments too - then so be it. We're a part of this world too - and we're doing FAR more than our share to protect and enrich it. So to see the utter disregard for our achievements and our well-earned position of leadership and responsibility in the world and instead see the constant and growing disdain and hatred around the world and within our own people for America just turns my stomach to no end. We should NOT be persecuted or blamed for using more resources and having more wealth than the rest of the world. WE EARNED IT!! WE DESERVE the richness we have and we have NOTHING to feel guilty or ashamed for. [b]Yes. The United States Of America IS the greatest nation that ever was and ever will be.[/b] [marines]
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 10:39:02 PM EDT
Freeper.
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 10:50:45 PM EDT
Originally Posted By The_Macallan: 25% of UN Peacekeeping costs 25% of the UN Food and Agriculture Organization costs 25% of the UN World Meteorological Organization funding 25% of the United Nations total budget [marines]
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Yes, thank you for funding the UN so they can seak to take all small arms out of the hands of civilians...
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 10:53:07 PM EDT
What [b]Buster[/b] said [ROFL]. Someone please 'splain it to him. [ROFL2]
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 10:54:21 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Scarecrow: Yes, thank you for funding the UN so they can seak to take all small arms out of the hands of civilians...
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They only take guns from sheeple willing to give them up. [:D]
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 10:59:25 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Buster: I guess the winters are too long and lonely in AK. Raven has spent way too much time in a dark room getting sexually aquainted with "itself". I say "itself" because the person is probably as confused about its own being as the numerous reasons why this is the best country on earth. Ravens message reeks of self hatred and low esteem. I would venture a guess that Raven is either one of those wimpy skinny guys or a really fat chick with disgusting tatoos, equally disgusting body piercings, bad teeth, purple hair and body odor that would kill a fly. I have another observation, judging by the number of posts by Raven it must do nothing other that sit in front of its computer and masturbate while posting on forums and inventing new forms of self mutilation. I would only ask a few questions of this maggot. Did we enter WWII in Europe for our own posterity? We were attacked by the Japanese not the Germans. Did all of our soldiers die in Europe for our gain or for the greater good of all mankind? Do you think the war in Vietnam was fought for our posterity or to free its citizens from communism? What did we have to gain there? Oil? Gold? Diamonds? World domination? I would highly recommend to Raven that it seek another country to live in, lets say the Philippines, or Haiti, or Somalia, you know some place where we tried to forward our own posterity.
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Hey! You're hurting my feelings!
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 11:05:31 PM EDT
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:
Originally Posted By Scarecrow: Yes, thank you for funding the UN so they can seak to take all small arms out of the hands of civilians...
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They only take guns from sheeple willing to give them up. [:D]
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Yes willing, I guess thats what you call yourself when you have an MP5 to the back of your head and that of your loved ones. Thank you for giving them the power to influence sovereign nations with their stupidity.
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 11:16:42 PM EDT
Uh ... Buster? You seem to be suffering from a lack of reading comprehension here. Raven was simply conveying to us what some dipshit over at democraticunderground had posted. Those are NOT Raven's views.
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 11:17:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/21/2003 11:18:24 PM EDT by raven]
Ok, the temptation to play along and start a flamefest is great, but since that's against the rules I wont. I cut and pasted the text in my first post from another website, Democraticunderground.com They say stupid shit like that all the time, and then turn around and say how Republicans hate America. Cut and paste this URL into your browser's address bar: http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=14475&forum=DCForumID70#24 See? I didn't write it. I just like you share what goes on in the mind of hardcore lefties with you guys.
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 11:23:53 PM EDT
so LEAVE! heres something i'd like to see become a reality (taken from an email)...robin williams for prez!! Robin Williams' plan...(The scarey thing is it makes a lot of sense!) "I see a lot of people yelling for peace but I have not heard of a plan for peace. So, here's one plan: 1) The US will apologize to the world for our "interference" in their affairs, past & present. We will promise never to "interfere" again. 2) We will withdraw our troops from all over the world, starting with Germany, South Korea and the Philippines. They don't want us there. We would station troops at our borders. No more sneaking through holes in the fence. 3) All illegal aliens have 90 days to get their affairs together and leave. We'll give them a free trip home. After 90 days the remainder will be gathered up and deported immediately, regardless of who or where they are. France would welcome them. 4) All future visitors will be thoroughly checked and limited to 90 day visits unless given a special permit. No one from a terrorist nation would be allowed in. If you don't like it there, change it yourself, don't hide here. Asylum would not ever be available to anyone. We don't need any more cab drivers. 5) No "students" over age 21. The older ones are the bombers. If they don't attend classes, they get a "D" and it's back home, baby. 6) The US will make a strong effort to become self sufficient energy wise. This will include developing non polluting sources of energy but will require a temporary drilling of oil in the Alaskan wilderness. The caribou will have to cope for a while. 7) Offer Saudi Arabia and other oil producing countries $10 a barrel for their oil. If they don't like it, we go someplace else. 8) If there is a famine or other natural catastrophe in the world, we will not "interfere". They can pray to Allah or whomever, for seeds, rain, cement or whatever they need. Besides, most of what we give them gets "lost" or is taken by their army. The people who need it most get very little, anyway. 9) Ship the UN Headquarters to an island some place. We don't need the spies and fair weather friends here. Besides, it would make a good homeless shelter or lockup for illegal aliens. 9b) Use the buildings as replacement for the twin towers. 10) All Americans must go to charm and beauty school. That way, no one can call us "Ugly Americans" any longer. Now, ain't that a winner of a plan. The Statue of Liberty is no longer saying 'Give me your poor,your tired, your huddled masses.' She's got a baseball bat and she's yelling, 'You want a piece of me?'" Robin Williams
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 11:24:42 PM EDT
Have you read my sig line lately?
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 11:34:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/21/2003 11:38:12 PM EDT by The_Macallan]
Originally Posted By Scarecrow: Thank you for giving them the power to influence sovereign nations with their stupidity.
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But... but... the UN is RUN by these "sovereign nations"! [Ugly American mode] Besides, most nations (and I use that term [b][i]very[/i][/b] loosely) that are under the thumb of the UN are getting a much more benevolent Overlord in the UN Peacekeepers than the Mugabes, Amins and Husseins they're used to dealing with. I mean, do you really think THESE guys should be running around with 20th Century weapons???? [img]http://members.cox.net/the-macallan/MacsPics1/AfriGun.jpg[/img][img]http://members.cox.net/the-macallan/MacsPics1/PLATELIP.jpg[/img] [/Ugly American mode]
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 11:41:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By The_Macallan: I mean, do you really think THESE guys should be running around with 20th Century weapons???? [url]http://members.cox.net/the-macallan/MacsPics1/AfriGun.jpg[/url][url]http://members.cox.net/the-macallan/MacsPics1/PLATELIP.jpg[/url]
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Yes they should be armed with knives and muskets so when the next government decides their tribes need to be exterminated no one can stop them. Then they can become immigrants fleeing their countries to come to Canada and the USA to leach off our economies and sell drugs on the corner and occasionally rioting.
Link Posted: 6/22/2003 12:33:53 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/22/2003 8:45:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/22/2003 1:55:45 PM EDT by dmuldrew]
WTF is wrong with doing things that help ourselves prosper? There are whole bunch of countries on the face of this planet that would benefit from doing a few things in their own best intrest instead of spending so much of their goddamn time with their hands out. Of course most of em live in dirt huts and eat bugs, but that ain't our fault either.
Link Posted: 6/22/2003 8:49:26 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Scarecrow: Then they can become immigrants fleeing their countries to come to Canada
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They would only improve Canada. [:D]
Link Posted: 6/22/2003 9:13:02 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Scarecrow:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan: 25% of UN Peacekeeping costs 25% of the UN Food and Agriculture Organization costs 25% of the UN World Meteorological Organization funding 25% of the United Nations total budget [marines]
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Yes, thank you for funding the UN so they can seak to take all small arms out of the hands of civilians...
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Mac, I think it's only 22% [rolleyes] of the UN budget now. A 3% cut is the republocrats idea of getting US OUT OF THE UN!
Link Posted: 6/22/2003 9:45:52 AM EDT
The picture of the two African Wogs....was that taken at the recent Benton Harbor, Michigan block party?
Link Posted: 6/22/2003 11:01:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/22/2003 11:02:03 AM EDT by The_Macallan]
Originally Posted By liberty86:
Originally Posted By Scarecrow:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan: 25% of UN Peacekeeping costs 25% of the UN Food and Agriculture Organization costs 25% of the UN World Meteorological Organization funding 25% of the United Nations total budget . . .
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Yes, thank you for funding the UN so they can seak to take all small arms out of the hands of civilians...
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Mac, I think it's only 22% [rolleyes] of the UN budget now. A 3% cut is the republocrats idea of getting US OUT OF THE UN!
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Ya'll are missing my point. Listing those stats is not to defend whether our funding most of the UN is good for us or not (I know it stinks) - it's to rebute the cries that the US is being selfish in the world.
Link Posted: 6/22/2003 11:45:49 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/22/2003 12:10:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/22/2003 12:14:30 PM EDT by MaverickMkii]
Then renounce your citizenship and give it to me. I'm glad I migrated to United States. (6 years to go for citizenship) Seriously, if you hate this nation and think you are so enlightened, why not move to a nearby communist / socialist nation? (not state)
Link Posted: 6/22/2003 1:04:07 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Chapman: If they don't like it... [b][size=6]MOVE THE FUCK OUT![/size=6][/b]
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Yep. What he said. If you live in the US, then why the hell are you talking shit about it? Go live in Iraq or Iran for a while and see how much better it is for ya. What kind of responce did you expect to get here, at the most patriotic site on the Internet?
Link Posted: 6/22/2003 1:11:49 PM EDT
... Before they kicked me off DU, they would argue against me about the "Love it of leave it" position. Those assholes are openly [b]dead set[/b] on [u]changing[/u] America into a socialist country. ... Period
Link Posted: 6/22/2003 1:15:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By raven: ...Everything the United States does is to help itself, and if we help you along the way, so what, if we kill you along the way so what. I look back and I see no conflict that wasn't joined for an altruistic reason, every war we've been in was because we wanted personal gain. The war on terrorism is not about making the world safe for everyone, it's about making the world safe for America. ...
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Gee, the DU weenie says that like it's a bad thing.
Link Posted: 6/22/2003 1:55:16 PM EDT
What caused them to be such socialists? I just don't freakin understand.
Link Posted: 6/22/2003 2:04:07 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/22/2003 2:04:44 PM EDT
Originally Posted By RikWriter:
Originally Posted By Scarecrow: Then they can become immigrants fleeing their countries to come to Canada
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They would only improve Canada. [:D]
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Yes, actually we would get the best of the crop as usual and leave you with the worst of the bunch to riot in your streets and have 15 children each as to drain from your taxes and make your country even further in dept. Maybe you'll get lucky and have a few muslim extremist in the batch so they could slam some planes into more buildings and you could issue them Visas after, isnt that how the US works?
Link Posted: 6/22/2003 2:48:54 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Scarecrow: Yes, actually we would get the best of the crop as usual and leave you with the worst of the bunch to riot in your streets and have 15 children each as to drain from your taxes and make your country even further in dept. Maybe you'll get lucky and have a few muslim extremist in the batch so they could slam some planes into more buildings and you could issue them Visas after, isnt that how the US works?
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As opposed to Canada letting their Indians push them around and doing nothing about it?
Link Posted: 6/22/2003 3:01:36 PM EDT
Originally Posted By RikWriter: As opposed to Canada letting their Indians push them around and doing nothing about it?
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As opposed to committing mass genocide against a race and violating just about every treaty made with them?
Link Posted: 6/22/2003 3:04:46 PM EDT
Originally Posted By front-sight-poster: What is your fucking point? I wonder who invented the computer you used to post this here? hehehe.......
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Al Gore
Link Posted: 6/22/2003 3:32:27 PM EDT
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Raven when you run across A DU type resident of AK. Be sure to ask them if they Cash that check they get from the Government for the sale of "Evil Oil" Have you heard this one? What do you call a good looking woman in AK?[rolleyes] A tourist.[LOL]
Link Posted: 6/22/2003 7:26:04 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Scarecrow:
Originally Posted By RikWriter: As opposed to Canada letting their Indians push them around and doing nothing about it?
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As opposed to committing mass genocide against a race and violating just about every treaty made with them?
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Hey, if it was good enough for the Aussies, it's good enough for us. But I am speaking of CURRENTLY. I remember well watching footage of Indians holding off the Canadian police at gunpoint. No arrests were made, but a lot of Canadian cops had to buy new trousers.
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