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Posted: 6/19/2003 9:05:03 PM EDT
Ok, so maybe they played Nazis on TV, they were still my favorites! [img]www.triviatribute.com/images4/johnbanner1.jpg[/img] [img]tv.zap2it.com/images/people/50-80/k/wernerklemperer80.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 9:24:13 PM EDT
The makers of Hogan's Heroes took a lot of crap from "certain" folks in Hollywood for making light of the Nazis - even to the point of making them lovable characters like Schultz. Great show. I always liked Kinch and Carter. Le Beau was frickin' annoying. True to his Frog heritage. I vaguely remember something about the fact that the actor who played Le Beau really did escape Nazi-occupied France. Not real clear about it though. Bob Crane was quite a scoundrel. Heavily into womenz & 8mm film [naughty] I remember when he got whacked in a motel room in Scottsdale. It was a big story here for MANY years. Dumbfuck Scottsdale PD fucked up the investigation. Aaaaaaanyway...
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 9:28:35 PM EDT
Not to change the subject, but why are there no lovable commies on TV? They had/have concentration camps too.
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 9:40:04 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Tonkaman: Not to change the subject, but why are there no lovable commies on TV?
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They're ALL Commies! [:D]
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 9:45:38 PM EDT
Schultz was not a nazi...he was regular Wehrmact. Did you ever noticed he carried a US Kragg rifle???
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 9:54:42 PM EDT
Originally Posted By JackBurton: Schultz was not a nazi...he was regular Wehrmact. Did you ever noticed he carried a US Kragg rifle???
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Actually they were Luftwaffe.
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 10:00:07 PM EDT
Who was the German officer, (Blonde), Tank column commander in the big WWII production ?? I think Battle of the Bulge, Fonda was in it, the krauts wanted a fuel dump........
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 10:03:21 PM EDT
Originally Posted By liberty86: Who was the German officer, (Blonde), Tank column commander in the big WWII production ?? I think Battle of the Bulge, Fonda was in it, the krauts wanted a fuel dump........
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Robert Shaw?
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 12:33:50 AM EDT
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:
Originally Posted By liberty86: Who was the German officer, (Blonde), Tank column commander in the big WWII production ?? I think Battle of the Bulge, Fonda was in it, the krauts wanted a fuel dump........
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Robert Shaw?
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Correct. He also played the Heavy in the James Bond Movie, "From Russia With Love".
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 12:52:37 AM EDT
Originally Posted By The_Macallan: I remember when he got whacked in a motel room in Scottsdale. It was a big story here for MANY years. Dumbfuck Scottsdale PD fucked up the investigation. Aaaaaaanyway...
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Every fricken year they talk about it on the anivsary on the tv news...
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 12:53:09 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 2:08:57 AM EDT
Originally Posted By GiggleSmith:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:
Originally Posted By liberty86: Who was the German officer, (Blonde), Tank column commander in the big WWII production ?? I think Battle of the Bulge, Fonda was in it, the krauts wanted a fuel dump........
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Robert Shaw?
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Correct. He also played the Heavy in the James Bond Movie, "From Russia With Love".
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He was also in "Jaws." I chuckle every time I remember his roles in the two films...
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 2:25:57 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Tonkaman: Not to change the subject, but why are there no lovable commies on TV? They had/have concentration camps too.
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I thought Barbara Bach was extremely lovable.
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 2:35:19 AM EDT
I read an article where they started playing Hogan's Heros on TV in Germany a couple years ago. Since there are laws forbidding mention of Hitler it posed a dilemma for the translation. What they ended up doing when somebody would give the stiff-arm salute and there was the line "Heil Hitler!" (in English) it would be dubbed in German with a line like "The corn grows this high!".
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 2:43:59 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Garryowen: The guy who played Klink was actually a Jew and loved maeking the Nazi's look like buffoons. He (and the guy who played Schultz) were also in the movie "The Hunt for Adolf Iekmann"...WOW! Did he ever play a dirty bastard! It's an old Black & White movie, but I highly recomend it...makes you look at Col. Klink way differently...
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Werner Von Klemp. I also rember reading the Von Klemp never told his father what he did for a living (play a German prison camp Commandant) because he was afraid of the reaction.
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 2:57:07 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/20/2003 3:07:09 AM EDT
[b]Werner Von Klemp[/b] i thought his name was werner klemperer? in any case, werner was one of the best actors i have ever seen in front of a camera. some of his owner roles were very well done. john banner was always cracking me up! [b]Heavily into womenz & 8mm film[/b] women??? wasn't bob crane light in the loafers?
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 3:07:15 AM EDT
My father-in-law, who is now in heaven, was a prisoner in WWII. He was put in Stalag 13 and told me it wasn't near as much fun as the one on TV.
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 3:14:42 AM EDT
Originally Posted By CAMPYBOB: [b]Werner Von Klemp[/b] i thought his name was werner klemperer? in any case, werner was one of the best actors i have ever seen in front of a camera. some of his owner roles were very well done.
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I think you are right. Still drinking my coffee, brain may not be fully engaged.
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 4:12:54 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 4:28:56 AM EDT
thanks aimless. i did some quick surfing, and it appears that the consensus is that bob was straight.
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 7:13:58 AM EDT
Originally Posted By CAMPYBOB: the consensus is that bob was straight.
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Not that there's anything wrong with that! [:D]
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 7:21:01 AM EDT
[img]http://www.movieprop.com/tvandmovie/Seinfeld/soupnazi.jpg[/img] Soup Nazi
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 8:45:54 AM EDT
John Banner who played Schultz was also a Jew and a refugee from Europe. During WWII he was some sort of photo model for US propaganda efforts. GunLvr
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 8:53:09 AM EDT
"i hate illinois nazis"
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 9:12:14 AM EDT
Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:
Originally Posted By JackBurton: Schultz was not a nazi...he was regular Wehrmact. Did you ever noticed he carried a US Kragg rifle???
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Actually they were Luftwaffe.
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The Luftwaffe was the "most" nazi of the German service arms (unless you count the SS as a German service arm, which is probably the most accurate way to look at it). The navy was the least nazi, to the point of not even adopting the nazi salute. Ironically, the head of the navy was Hitler's chosen replacement. He ignored all of his nazi henchmen & bootlickers, and choose a guy who was, basically, not a nazi.
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 6:19:04 PM EDT
Actually, it's Werner Klemperer (no Von), and his father Otto was a world famous symphony conductor. And yes, both he and "Schultz" were Jews; the ultimate irony in the series. Robert Clary, who played LeBeau, was a very well known comic actor in France.
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 6:20:49 PM EDT
This only goes for people living in Chicago, but, on the public access channel 19, on Tuesday night at 11:00 or so, there is this crazy guy who bitches and bitches, but he has so many subliminal messages on how the national socialists were he greatest people on earth. This is hex-insinuation, see if you can figure it out, "What Can Brown Do FOr You." It isn't very obvious, but one of my friends figured it out.
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 6:24:28 PM EDT
Originally Posted By The_Macallan: ... They're ALL Commies! [:D]
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... I would certainly never begin to argue history with you [b]The_Macallan[/b], but Nazis were NOT Communists. Please explain.
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 6:36:24 PM EDT
And here I thought Crane got beat up fatally around Hollywood somewhere. I must be thinking of someone else.
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 6:39:09 PM EDT
You know who was a creepy nazi bastard? You fella's remember that bleach blond super nazi SS man in "Where Eagles Dare"? He was one creepy ,shyster,nazi SOB. I enjoyed watching him get drilled. Of course it doesn't get much creepier than the nazi camp commader who liked to start his mornings off by sniping old women from his balcony in "Shindlers List".
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 10:49:45 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Winston_Wolf:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan: ... They're ALL Commies! [:D]
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... I would certainly never begin to argue history with you [b]The_Macallan[/b], but Nazis were NOT Communists. Please explain.
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[b]Tonkaman[/b] was asking why there's no lovable commies on TV. I was half-jokingly saying that EVERYONE on TV is a Commie because everyone in Hollywood is a Commie!
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 1:12:44 AM EDT
Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:
Originally Posted By JackBurton: Schultz was not a nazi...he was regular Wehrmact. Did you ever noticed he carried a US Kragg rifle???
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Actually they were Luftwaffe.
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Wehrmacht is German for "armed Forces" so you're both right.
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 2:59:07 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Zardoz: Wehrmacht is German for "armed Forces" so you're both right.
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Dear god, thank you for someone finnaly pointing this out! The show was very popular in Germany for a while, not so much so in Austrian where Shultx was from. One point, jews were allowed to serve openly in the German navy because the high command did not care. In the end many were still killed in the final push to Berlin when they were all given a days rations, a rifle or pistol and sent to the front without traning.
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 8:29:37 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Zardoz:
Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:
Originally Posted By JackBurton: Schultz was not a nazi...he was regular Wehrmact. Did you ever noticed he carried a US Kragg rifle???
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Actually they were Luftwaffe.
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Wehrmacht is German for "armed Forces" so you're both right.
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Yes, but in it's general use, it usually refers to the army.
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 2:19:04 PM EDT
Originally Posted By mattsd: "i hate illinois nazis"
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"I've always loved you"
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 4:35:46 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Winston_Wolf: but Nazis were NOT Communists. Please explain.
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The National Socialist Party was more Communist than not; a State-Directed economy, subsuming of the individual to the interests of the Society (govt.), and the State demanding controlling interest in all things, including the loyalty of the children. A better question might be how were they philisophically different? Remeber, the Communist takes the cow, the Socialist lets you keep the cow but takes the milk.
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