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Posted: 6/19/2003 9:24:13 PM EDT
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The makers of Hogan's Heroes took a lot of crap from "certain" folks in Hollywood for making light of the Nazis - even to the point of making them lovable characters like Schultz. Great show. I always liked Kinch and Carter. Le Beau was frickin' annoying. True to his Frog heritage. I vaguely remember something about the fact that the actor who played Le Beau really did escape Nazi-occupied France. Not real clear about it though. Bob Crane was quite a scoundrel. Heavily into womenz & 8mm film [naughty] I remember when he got whacked in a motel room in Scottsdale. It was a big story here for MANY years. Dumbfuck Scottsdale PD fucked up the investigation. Aaaaaaanyway... |
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Posted: 6/19/2003 9:28:35 PM EDT
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Not to change the subject, but why are there no lovable commies on TV? They had/have concentration camps too.
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Posted: 6/19/2003 9:40:04 PM EDT
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Quoted: Not to change the subject, but why are there no lovable commies on TV? [:D] |
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Posted: 6/19/2003 9:45:38 PM EDT
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Schultz was not a nazi...he was regular Wehrmact. Did you ever noticed he carried a US Kragg rifle???
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Posted: 6/19/2003 9:54:42 PM EDT
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Quoted: Schultz was not a nazi...he was regular Wehrmact. Did you ever noticed he carried a US Kragg rifle??? Actually they were Luftwaffe. |
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Posted: 6/19/2003 10:00:07 PM EDT
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Who was the German officer, (Blonde), Tank column commander in the big WWII production ?? I think Battle of the Bulge, Fonda was in it, the krauts wanted a fuel dump........
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Posted: 6/19/2003 10:03:21 PM EDT
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Quoted: Who was the German officer, (Blonde), Tank column commander in the big WWII production ?? I think Battle of the Bulge, Fonda was in it, the krauts wanted a fuel dump........ |
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Posted: 6/20/2003 12:33:50 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Who was the German officer, (Blonde), Tank column commander in the big WWII production ?? I think Battle of the Bulge, Fonda was in it, the krauts wanted a fuel dump........ Correct. He also played the Heavy in the James Bond Movie, "From Russia With Love". |
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Posted: 6/20/2003 12:52:37 AM EDT
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Quoted: I remember when he got whacked in a motel room in Scottsdale. It was a big story here for MANY years. Dumbfuck Scottsdale PD fucked up the investigation. Aaaaaaanyway... Every fricken year they talk about it on the anivsary on the tv news... |
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Posted: 6/20/2003 12:53:09 AM EDT
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The guy who played Klink was actually a Jew and loved maeking the Nazi's look like buffoons. He (and the guy who played Schultz) were also in the movie "The Hunt for Adolf Iekmann"...WOW! Did he ever play a dirty bastard! It's an old Black & White movie, but I highly recomend it...makes you look at Col. Klink way differently...
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Posted: 6/20/2003 2:08:57 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Who was the German officer, (Blonde), Tank column commander in the big WWII production ?? I think Battle of the Bulge, Fonda was in it, the krauts wanted a fuel dump........ Correct. He also played the Heavy in the James Bond Movie, "From Russia With Love". He was also in "Jaws." I chuckle every time I remember his roles in the two films... |
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Posted: 6/20/2003 2:25:57 AM EDT
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Quoted: Not to change the subject, but why are there no lovable commies on TV? They had/have concentration camps too. I thought Barbara Bach was extremely lovable. |
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Posted: 6/20/2003 2:35:19 AM EDT
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I read an article where they started playing Hogan's Heros on TV in Germany a couple years ago. Since there are laws forbidding mention of Hitler it posed a dilemma for the translation. What they ended up doing when somebody would give the stiff-arm salute and there was the line "Heil Hitler!" (in English) it would be dubbed in German with a line like "The corn grows this high!".
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Posted: 6/20/2003 2:43:59 AM EDT
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Quoted: The guy who played Klink was actually a Jew and loved maeking the Nazi's look like buffoons. He (and the guy who played Schultz) were also in the movie "The Hunt for Adolf Iekmann"...WOW! Did he ever play a dirty bastard! It's an old Black & White movie, but I highly recomend it...makes you look at Col. Klink way differently... Werner Von Klemp. I also rember reading the Von Klemp never told his father what he did for a living (play a German prison camp Commandant) because he was afraid of the reaction. |
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Posted: 6/20/2003 2:57:07 AM EDT
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Quoted: I read an article where they started playing Hogan's Heros on TV in Germany a couple years ago. Since there are laws forbidding mention of Hitler it posed a dilemma for the translation. What they ended up doing when somebody would give the stiff-arm salute and there was the line "Heil Hitler!" (in English) it would be dubbed in German with a line like "The corn grows this high!". I'm not too sure about that one. I lived in Germany for quite a few years and Hogans Heros was one of my favorite shows to watch, they did a great job picking people for the voices and the translations were correct. If you got over the language difference you'd swear you were watching the original show! What bugged me was how they re-named American shows over there. Hogan's Heros was called "A cage full of Heros" and Home Improvement was called "Look who's hammering"! I always wondered how the Germans felt about being made fun of in Hogan's Heros, so I asked some of the older guys at work about the show......they said the never watched it. |
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Posted: 6/20/2003 3:07:09 AM EDT
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[b]Werner Von Klemp[/b]
i thought his name was werner klemperer? in any case, werner was one of the best actors i have ever seen in front of a camera. some of his owner roles were very well done. john banner was always cracking me up! [b]Heavily into womenz & 8mm film[/b] women??? wasn't bob crane light in the loafers? |
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Posted: 6/20/2003 3:07:15 AM EDT
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My father-in-law, who is now in heaven, was a prisoner in WWII. He was put in Stalag 13 and told me it wasn't near as much fun as the one on TV.
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Posted: 6/20/2003 3:14:42 AM EDT
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Quoted: [b]Werner Von Klemp[/b] i thought his name was werner klemperer? in any case, werner was one of the best actors i have ever seen in front of a camera. some of his owner roles were very well done. I think you are right. Still drinking my coffee, brain may not be fully engaged. |
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Posted: 6/20/2003 4:12:54 AM EDT
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Quoted: [b]Heavily into womenz & 8mm film[/b] women??? wasn't bob crane light in the loafers? I guess not?-review of the movie "Auto Focus" about Bob Crane now out on DVD. I have seen it for rent, but I know most of the story and have no interest in watching it unfold on my TV set. Blech. [url]http://www.suntimes.com/ebert/ebert_reviews/2002/10/102502.html[/url] |
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Posted: 6/20/2003 4:28:56 AM EDT
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thanks aimless. i did some quick surfing, and it appears that the consensus is that bob was straight.
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Posted: 6/20/2003 7:13:58 AM EDT
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Quoted: the consensus is that bob was straight. [:D] |
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Posted: 6/20/2003 7:21:01 AM EDT
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[img]http://www.movieprop.com/tvandmovie/Seinfeld/soupnazi.jpg[/img]
Soup Nazi |
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Posted: 6/20/2003 8:45:54 AM EDT
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John Banner who played Schultz was also a Jew and a refugee from Europe. During WWII he was some sort of photo model for US propaganda efforts.
GunLvr |
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Posted: 6/20/2003 8:53:09 AM EDT
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"i hate illinois nazis"
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Posted: 6/20/2003 9:12:14 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Schultz was not a nazi...he was regular Wehrmact. Did you ever noticed he carried a US Kragg rifle??? Actually they were Luftwaffe. The Luftwaffe was the "most" nazi of the German service arms (unless you count the SS as a German service arm, which is probably the most accurate way to look at it). The navy was the least nazi, to the point of not even adopting the nazi salute. Ironically, the head of the navy was Hitler's chosen replacement. He ignored all of his nazi henchmen & bootlickers, and choose a guy who was, basically, not a nazi. |
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Posted: 6/20/2003 6:19:04 PM EDT
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Actually, it's Werner Klemperer (no Von), and his father Otto was a world famous symphony conductor.
And yes, both he and "Schultz" were Jews; the ultimate irony in the series. Robert Clary, who played LeBeau, was a very well known comic actor in France. |
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Posted: 6/20/2003 6:20:49 PM EDT
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This only goes for people living in Chicago, but, on the public access channel 19, on Tuesday night at 11:00 or so, there is this crazy guy who bitches and bitches, but he has so many subliminal messages on how the national socialists were he greatest people on earth. This is hex-insinuation, see if you can figure it out, "What Can Brown Do FOr You." It isn't very obvious, but one of my friends figured it out.
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Posted: 6/20/2003 6:24:28 PM EDT
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Quoted: ... They're ALL Commies! [:D] ... I would certainly never begin to argue history with you [b]The_Macallan[/b], but Nazis were NOT Communists. Please explain. |
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Posted: 6/20/2003 6:36:24 PM EDT
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And here I thought Crane got beat up fatally around Hollywood somewhere. I must be thinking of someone else.
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Posted: 6/20/2003 6:39:09 PM EDT
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You know who was a creepy nazi bastard?
You fella's remember that bleach blond super nazi SS man in "Where Eagles Dare"? He was one creepy ,shyster,nazi SOB. I enjoyed watching him get drilled. Of course it doesn't get much creepier than the nazi camp commader who liked to start his mornings off by sniping old women from his balcony in "Shindlers List". |
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Posted: 6/20/2003 10:49:45 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: ... They're ALL Commies! [:D] ... I would certainly never begin to argue history with you [b]The_Macallan[/b], but Nazis were NOT Communists. Please explain. I was half-jokingly saying that EVERYONE on TV is a Commie because everyone in Hollywood is a Commie! |
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Posted: 6/21/2003 1:12:44 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Schultz was not a nazi...he was regular Wehrmact. Did you ever noticed he carried a US Kragg rifle??? Actually they were Luftwaffe. |
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Posted: 6/21/2003 2:59:07 AM EDT
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Quoted: Wehrmacht is German for "armed Forces" so you're both right. Dear god, thank you for someone finnaly pointing this out! The show was very popular in Germany for a while, not so much so in Austrian where Shultx was from. One point, jews were allowed to serve openly in the German navy because the high command did not care. In the end many were still killed in the final push to Berlin when they were all given a days rations, a rifle or pistol and sent to the front without traning. |
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Posted: 6/21/2003 8:29:37 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Schultz was not a nazi...he was regular Wehrmact. Did you ever noticed he carried a US Kragg rifle??? Actually they were Luftwaffe. Yes, but in it's general use, it usually refers to the army. |
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Posted: 6/21/2003 2:19:04 PM EDT
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Quoted: "i hate illinois nazis" "I've always loved you" |
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Posted: 6/21/2003 4:35:46 PM EDT
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Quoted: but Nazis were NOT Communists. Please explain. The National Socialist Party was more Communist than not; a State-Directed economy, subsuming of the individual to the interests of the Society (govt.), and the State demanding controlling interest in all things, including the loyalty of the children. A better question might be how were they philisophically different? Remeber, the Communist takes the cow, the Socialist lets you keep the cow but takes the milk. |
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