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Posted: 6/18/2003 4:06:46 PM EDT
I was out running Pistol Fun Night when a lady and her husband came out. She had a new glock 9mm comp pistol, but with the solid barrel in. She had her new CCW, but wanted some practice. She loads up these cone looking fiocchi loads and comments she had them jam last time she shot them. I talk to her about the wally world 100-packs and she starts shooting plates. One of the rounds bounces back and opens a inch and a half gash in her arm, at least a half inch deep. First time that has happened. I am talking a good 20 yards from the line to the plates. That is some nice ammo. We taped up the gash and she fires off the rest of her ammo before going to get it sewed up, turns out she worked at the ER in one of the local hospitals.
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 5:53:23 PM EDT
She's hardcore.
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 7:27:05 PM EDT
I used to shoot Fioochis before I started reloading, and that is some hot stuff in terms of velocity. Fioochi is the Winchester/Remington of Italy. But I think European 9mm Para is a lot hotter than the USA manufacture variety. It is said that European 9mm Para pistols are built sturdier to handle the hotter loads.
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 7:44:52 PM EDT
They do make some oddball and old chamberings that others dont. But I wouldn't be suprised if its loaded to military specs.
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 7:47:55 PM EDT
I guess 20 yds is to close to be safely shooting steel plates ....
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 7:49:29 PM EDT
yikes!
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 8:36:22 PM EDT
9MM NATO is specced at +p+. This is what the German military originally issued. This is what all militaries now use. This is why your Luger works best with +p+. US 9MM is often slower.
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 7:25:23 AM EDT
I shoot Fiocchi 12 gauge 2 3/4 inch rifled slugs this past hunting season. Grouped beautifully at 100 yards out of 20 inch smoothbore slug barrel. Felt like a pretty hot load as well. I'm fairly impressed with Fiocchi.
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 7:54:15 AM EDT
I've been singing the praises of Fiocchi 45ACP 230GR ball for quite awhile now. It burns super clean and that in expecially nice in pistol caliber upper. Neither of my Glocks liked the 40 S&W loads, but they haven't been cleaned in years so that may have something to do with it. [;)]
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 8:04:51 AM EDT
That's one tough monkey. I, too, have had very good performance with Fiocchi 9x19 and .45ACP. Very clean, powerful hitters. A lot nicer than the "white box" varieties, at not a lot of cost. Seems like it was was cheaper than US factory premium ammo. Ask for it by name. I got my last batch from CTD. Don't know if they've still got it or not.
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 5:24:10 AM EDT
Originally Posted By SeaDweller: She's hardcore.
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I would say so!!
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 6:07:11 AM EDT
use it in my 1911..always
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 9:43:44 AM EDT
Ive shot fiocchi at steel plates(falling and poppers) with no ill effects from 10yards on out. Quality, Heavy hitting ammo! Use .40 and .45.
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 10:21:01 AM EDT
We have alot of mexican migrant workers around here with the orchards and all. One day while in the shop a couple came in and wanted some 9mm nad 38 super(their perferred cal). I showed them what was there and offerd some aguila in 9mm, thinking that they would love the mexican stuff. He stepped back about 3-4 feet waving his hands saying "No Aguila, is bad" 2 times. I was laughing so hard he almost didnt buy the other stuff.. Not really a Fiocchi ammo topic, but I couldnt resist.
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 10:22:55 AM EDT
The Fiocchi .40 I tried out was definitely hot as it was loaded to the major power level (170gr@1000+ fps).
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 4:29:56 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 4:39:44 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ARDOC: They do make some oddball and old chamberings that others dont. But I wouldn't be suprised if its loaded to military specs.
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Cheap but good for the common calibers, but $$$$ for the oddball stuff....I've never been able to find Fiocchi 7.62x39Nagant for less than $35 a box/50. I really wish Wolf or Barnaul would start loading it....it's not like the Russians would have to figure it out from scratch.
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 4:46:45 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Raptor22: I tried Fiocchi 9mm and at $108 a case I will not be buying Winchester anymore. Fiocchi rocks!
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Fiocchi is REALLY GREAT but let's keep it a secret before everybody starts buying it and driving the price up! [pistol]
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 4:50:06 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 6:14:20 PM EDT
We are distributors for Fiocchi ammo. I love the stuff, it's good and hot. Definately not pussy loads. Balming
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 9:30:43 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Balming: We are distributors for Fiocchi ammo. I love the stuff, it's good and hot. Definately not pussy loads. Balming
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Yeah.. but it is still made off shore.
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 9:56:27 PM EDT
I have a snobby bud that calls it "Fee-yucky". I don't mind it in .45 though.
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 12:42:15 AM EDT
I've had great results with the Fiocchi too, in both .45 and 9mm. Never seem to be able to find it in .40 around here for some reason.
Link Posted: 6/23/2003 9:14:30 PM EDT
Fiocchi is the best source for 28ga ammo.
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