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Posted: 6/18/2003 7:16:35 AM EDT
I have noticed in posts that praise the police they are referred to as LEOs but in one that criticize their actions they are referred to as JBTs, what does this stand for? Thanks........Tom
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 7:17:14 AM EDT
Jack Booted Thug
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 7:22:15 AM EDT
I think G. Gordon Liddy coined the term on his talk show in the 90's. Advised listeners to shoot JBT's in the head, since they will probably be wearing body armor.
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 7:32:56 AM EDT
They look like this and travel in [s]gangs[/s] groups. [img]http://photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=3595[/img]
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 8:17:46 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 8:18:10 AM EDT
How can he see with his mask covering his eyes? And with a gun in his hands no less!
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 8:31:26 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Brohawk: How can he see with his mask covering his eyes? And with a gun in his hands no less!
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it doesn't matter when you're outside the building cowering behind the truck.. oh, and the damn police firearms go off ACCIDENTLY, unlike 'we the people' firearms which is NEGLIGENCE on the part of the possessor. so therefor, he doesnt need to see in this case.
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 8:38:15 AM EDT
What does JBT stand for?
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And while we're at it, what kind of gun did Al Pacino use in Scarface? And what kind of gun did Val Kilmer use in HEAT? [rolleyes]
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 8:38:31 AM EDT
Originally Posted By raven: I think G. Gordon Liddy coined the term on his talk show in the 90's. Advised listeners to shoot JBT's in the head, since they will probably be wearing body armor.
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Nope Rep John Dingel (D-Mich) is the one that coined the 'Jack Booted Thug' phrase. He used it first in 1980 or so, referring to the ATF. He repeated it after Ruby Ridge and Waco, and the NRA (which he is/was member of the Board of Directors) picked up on his phrasing and used it in promotional materials, which caused the ANTI-GUN Pres GHW Bush to resign his NRA membership.
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 9:06:29 AM EDT
nevermind..........
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 9:14:04 AM EDT
[img]http://photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=12817[/img]
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 9:34:10 AM EDT
The problem with JBT's is their wardrobe. I mean, seriously. When the LA bank robber shootout was going on on TV live, my first thought was, why are the cops shooting at (pick one, ATF, IRS, FBI, DEA, etc) agents? A ski mask and a gun? Looks like a felon to me. If what is going on is legal and above board, they should not be wearing masks. That is the kind of tactics of the KKK guys with the sheets and hoods. We should not allow secret police in this country. We are not Guatemala.
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 10:12:37 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Silence:
Originally Posted By raven: I think G. Gordon Liddy coined the term on his talk show in the 90's. Advised listeners to shoot JBT's in the head, since they will probably be wearing body armor.
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Nope Rep John Dingel (D-Mich) is the one that coined the 'Jack Booted Thug' phrase. He used it first in 1980 or so, referring to the ATF. He repeated it after Ruby Ridge and Waco, and the NRA (which he is/was member of the Board of Directors) picked up on his phrasing and used it in promotional materials, which caused the ANTI-GUN Pres GHW Bush to resign his NRA membership.
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his Life membership which he bought before the '88 election. i wonder why?
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Link Posted: 6/19/2003 1:54:04 AM EDT
[b]J[/b]ustice [b]B[/b]ravery [b]T[/b]ruth All comendable attributes that deserve donations of hero rifles.
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 1:57:43 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 2:40:45 AM EDT
photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=13820 You will respect my authoritah! -Troy
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! [ROFL2]
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 4:37:07 AM EDT
JBT is what many call a Federal Officer doing tactical work and in tactical garb in what they believe is a heavy handed manner, and I will admit, some of the Fed's historical misteps may have rightly earned some of the scorn thrown their way. But, many here also call any cop who hurts their little feelings or arrests them for or enforces a law that they personally disagree with a Jack Booted Thug.
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 4:39:08 AM EDT
Simple.... They are people that do the following..... POLICE OUT OF CONTROL The following atrocity took place in the small village of Baxter, approximately 8 miles south west of Barrie. If you or a family member has ever fired a rifle for target practice this could have been you or someone you know... This is a short completely factual account of the events that took place as released by the victim's lawyer Mr. Ed Burlew LLB. READ IT CAREFULLY. THIS COULD HAVE BEEN ME!! Account as Released: On Tuesday May 27, 2003 the victim, 29 year old Jonathan Logan, who has never so much as had a speeding ticket, was lawfully hunting groundhogs on a farm field approximately 300 yards from Baxter Public School between the hours of 5:20 pm and 6:00 pm keeping in mind that students at the school had been released more then an hour and he had the permission of the land owner to be hunting within the confines of that property. THE POLICE INVESTIGATED AND CONFIRMED THE FOLLOWING: Jonathan Logan was indeed hunting ground hogs on a farmer's field approximately 300 yards from the school from 5:20 pm to 6:00 pm after school with permission of the farmer where the farmer had asked him to reduce the groundhog population. He was using a registered non-restricted rifle designed for varmit hunting. He was using the said rifle in a safe manner and Mr. Logan is a holder of a valid Ontario Hunting license. Mr. Logan was not on school property at any time and did not point the rifle at the school, any person or farm animal at any time. The rifle was transported in a safe manner at all times. Mr. Logan stopped hunting when he noticed that children were back at the school playing soccer and it was dinnertime! The police met him at his home and arrested him for charges that were later determined by the police to be groundless and are not being pursued. Note that he met the police as he pulled into his driveway and was arrested as he exited the vehicle having not entered his home. His rifle was in his vehicle, cased and unloaded and being transported safely in his vehicle when he stopped to meet the police. While under arrest for non-existent offenses, thus making the arrest unlawful, he was placed on the ground, had a .223 calibre Ruger Mini 14 pointed at his head by a police officer and was hand-cuffed in a painful method. Then he was stood up and taken to the trunk area of the police vehicle and strip searched in full public view. His pants were left dangling just above the knees for between 10 to 20 minutes as neighbours and traffic passed by. While under this unlawful arrest the police refused to let him or any other person into him home. The police insisted he sign consent to a search of his home without a warrant. This is significant because his 3-year-old child Joshua is a heart transplant recipient and was due for his hourly feeding and medication, which was kept in the house. The police would not let Mrs. Logan, Jonathan or Jonathans father or any other person into the house to get the food or medication without the police being given consent to search. The police had been shown the stomach tube for the 3-year-old Joshua's hourly feeding and were also told by Mrs. Logan and Jonathan Logan that all of the firearms in the home were safely stored. The police at that time had no reasonable or probable grounds to believe there was any illegal items in the home or that there was any evidence of an offence in the home. They know Jonathan Logan had broken no law. Jonathan had proof in his wallet that all his firearms were registered. Under the physical duress of having at least a dozen police officers armed with non-restricted, restricted and prohibited firearms and with many shotguns and rifles being pointed by police at all of the Logan's was coerced by the police into signing a consent to search which he was not allowed to read. The police then entered the house. Mr. Logan firmly believes his rights under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms to be free from unreasonable search and seizure was breached and that the alleged unsafe storage of one unloaded .22 rifle and .22 calibre ammunitions is based on the unlawful police actions. He was taken to the police station and released on a simple recognizance after 6 hours. Some of the more disgusting and inhuman things that Jonathan was subjected to such as the internal search with rubber gloves and flashlight and the cruel treatment and lewd suggestions made to him when he pleaded with the officers to at least pull up his pants so he was no longer exposed to the members of the public and his young children, had not been included in the original press release but beg to be told. Was this the actions of caring police officers trained and sworn to protect our individual rights or a group of thugs out of control? Ask yourself, "What if it had been me or my Son or Daughter?" Due to his son's illness and the time spent at hospital, Jonathan lost his job recently, now he must give police 24 hours notice before starting any new job. Oddly enough once notice is given the potential employers have been visited before he starts work and all perspective jobs fall through!!! We are all sports men and women and Jonathan is one of our own and he needs our help, both financially and with moral support, to get him through this crisis in his families life. I would hope that the sporting community and all people who want justice served, will help in any way they can, no matter how little, we have strength in numbers. Jonathan is not a terrorist but only a young man involved in a legal activity that we all love. He did not deserve this treatment. Please help Jonathan and his family find justice... A trust fund has been set up at Mr. Ed Burlews LLB, office: 16 John street, Thornhill, ON, L3T 1X8 (905) 882-2422. Or donations may be dropped of at the Wolf's Den Sporting Supplies Ltd located at 7560 8th con Essa Township RR# 1 Utopia, L0M 1T0, and (705) 424-4867. Receipts will be issued. Don't forget it is not just the legal expense that Jonathan will require help with. The day to day needs of his family while his is unable to find work will also have to be though of. Please show your support and express your concerns for Jonathan and his family C/o Wolf's Den Sporting Supplies (at the above address). Lets wake the sleeping GIANT. Let us show everyone how we feel and how we can stand together for one of our own. Let us show that we are law-abiding citizens of this country and will not allow anyone to treat us with anything but respect, no matter whom they are. Be sure that you send a message, write your local newspapers, radio stations, MP'S, MPP'S, telling them we will not stand for this. Don't wait for someone else to do it, stand up and be counted; let us all take a stand. We must correct this travesty of justice now or the next time it could be one of us. Don't lose focus, we aren't saying he should not have been checked, we are saying the leavel of force used and the tactics used where beyond a reasonably acceptable level. Yours in Conservation and Justice, Staff of Wolf's Den Sporting Supplies Ltd, Carl, Gary, Tammy and Lynn
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 4:52:51 AM EDT
Originally Posted By FiveO: JBT is what many call a Federal Officer doing tactical work and in tactical garb in what they believe is a heavy handed manner, and I will admit, some of the Fed's historical misteps may have rightly earned some of the scorn thrown their way. But, many here also call any cop who hurts their little feelings or arrests them for or enforces a law that they personally disagree with a Jack Booted Thug.
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This is probably the most accurate description here.
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 5:37:10 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 5:51:49 AM EDT
Originally Posted By colinjay:
Originally Posted By Silence:
Originally Posted By raven: I think G. Gordon Liddy coined the term on his talk show in the 90's. Advised listeners to shoot JBT's in the head, since they will probably be wearing body armor.
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Nope Rep John Dingel (D-Mich) is the one that coined the 'Jack Booted Thug' phrase. He used it first in 1980 or so, referring to the ATF. He repeated it after Ruby Ridge and Waco, and the NRA (which he is/was member of the Board of Directors) picked up on his phrasing and used it in promotional materials, which caused the ANTI-GUN Pres GHW Bush to resign his NRA membership.
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his Life membership which he bought before the '88 election. i wonder why?
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The reason given, which sounded quite reasonable to me, is that he wouldn't tolerate being part of an organization that would untruthfully insult his friends and Secret Service agents in such a way. I have a life membership, bought when I was 6 by my father. I would have turned it in as well if it wouldn't have hurt him so.
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 6:00:46 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Johninaustin:
Originally Posted By colinjay:
Originally Posted By Silence:
Originally Posted By raven: I think G. Gordon Liddy coined the term on his talk show in the 90's. Advised listeners to shoot JBT's in the head, since they will probably be wearing body armor.
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Nope Rep John Dingel (D-Mich) is the one that coined the 'Jack Booted Thug' phrase. He used it first in 1980 or so, referring to the ATF. He repeated it after Ruby Ridge and Waco, and the NRA (which he is/was member of the Board of Directors) picked up on his phrasing and used it in promotional materials, which caused the ANTI-GUN Pres GHW Bush to resign his NRA membership.
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his Life membership which he bought before the '88 election. i wonder why?
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The reason given, which sounded quite reasonable to me, is that he wouldn't tolerate being part of an organization that would untruthfully insult his friends and Secret Service agents in such a way. I have a life membership, bought when I was 6 by my father. I would have turned it in as well if it wouldn't have hurt him so.
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And Bush the elders statements could be used to fertilize a flowerbed. He resigned because the NRA was daring to question operations began/executed while he was President, the whole 'secret service' statement is and was just so much bullshit. Dont forget Ruby Ridge happened with Bush in the White house. And the opening stages of the withchunt that became Waco started under his administration too.
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 6:20:40 AM EDT
The vast majority of cops I've met are reasonable and pretty cool guys. It's the "little man with the big badge" who gives the rest a bad name. It's the guy who disregards the Constitutional rights of the citizen who gives credibility to the JBT label. On the JBT issue, the main question is: Whose country is it? The government's or the People's?
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In my snooty litle town we have excellent cops. Unfortunately the academic requirements for most departments are so low and the "quotas" so evident that the quality of officers suffers. Add a bad attitude to the mix and you have the recipe for a JBT.
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 6:08:06 AM EDT
Originally Posted By FiveO: ....some of the Fed's historical missteps may have rightly earned some of the scorn thrown their way.
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What a polite euphemism for murderers. Remember - they ruled that Lon Horuchi was following illegal orders at Ruby Ridge and violated the Weaver's Constitutional Rights. Then, the Feds stepped in and claimed [i]"Lon can't be prosecuted, he was doing his job"[/i] Since when is "doing your job" following illegal, unconstitutional orders? Oh yeah, since Nazi Germany.
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 9:58:23 AM EDT
Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
Originally Posted By FiveO: ....some of the Fed's historical missteps may have rightly earned some of the scorn thrown their way.
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What a polite euphemism for murderers. Remember - they ruled that Lon Horuchi was following illegal orders at Ruby Ridge and violated the Weaver's Constitutional Rights. Then, the Feds stepped in and claimed [i]"Lon can't be prosecuted, he was doing his job"[/i] Since when is "doing your job" following illegal, unconstitutional orders? Oh yeah, since Nazi Germany.
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that was sweet! notice the JBT's in training are afraid to respond!
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 10:16:03 AM EDT
A very minor amount of civilian collateral damage is a small price to pay to keeping society safe from those who hate our freedoms. Those in the HRT, SWAT and other special response units in law enforcement should be treated with the same reverence and awe that the members of the military are given.
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 10:17:39 AM EDT
Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
Originally Posted By FiveO: ....some of the Fed's historical missteps may have rightly earned some of the scorn thrown their way.
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What a polite euphemism for murderers. Remember - they ruled that Lon Horuchi was following illegal orders at Ruby Ridge and violated the Weaver's Constitutional Rights. Then, the Feds stepped in and claimed [i]"Lon can't be prosecuted, he was doing his job"[/i] Since when is "doing your job" following illegal, unconstitutional orders? Oh yeah, since Nazi Germany.
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[hail] [hail2]
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 10:24:08 AM EDT
JBT= moving target
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 10:34:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By mike103: JBT Facts: one JBT is killed every 53 hours 165 JBT's are killed each year 188 female JBT's have been killed 16,000 JBT's killed since 1792 576 NYC JBT's have been killed
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Well it's a good start.
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 10:45:42 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Panzerwolf:
Originally Posted By mike103: JBT Facts: one JBT is killed every 53 hours 165 JBT's are killed each year [red]72 JBT's were killed on 9-11-01[/red] 188 female JBT's have been killed 16,000 JBT's killed since 1792 576 NYC JBT's have been killed
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Well it's a good start.
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So now you align yourself with, and [u]support[/u] the actions of murdering Islamic terrorists? Brilliant.
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 11:01:05 AM EDT
Happy?!
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 11:18:14 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Panzerwolf: Happy?!
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What about the "JBTs" killed in this terrorist act? Still think it's a "good start"?
Victims of the Oklahoma City bombing A list, by floor and location, of those killed in the Oklahoma City bombing on April 19, 1995: NINTH FLOOR Drug Enforcement Administration Shelly D. Bland, 25, of Tuttle Carrol June "Chip" Fields, 48, Guthrie Rona Linn Kuehner-Chafey, 35, Oklahoma City Carrie Ann Lenz, 26, Chotaw Kenneth Glenn McCullough, 36, Edmond U.S. Secret Service Cynthia L. Brown, 26, Oklahoma City Donald Ray Leonard, 50, Edmond Mickey B. Maroney, 50, Oklahoma City Linda G. McKinney, 47, Oklahoma City Kathy Lynn Seidl, 39, Bethel Alan G. Whicher, 40, Edmond EIGHTH FLOOR U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development Ted L. Allen, 48, Norman Peter R. Avillanoza, 56, Oklahoma City David Neil Burkett, 47, Oklahoma City Donald Earl Burns, Sr., 63, Oklahoma City Kimberly Kay Clark, 39, Oklahoma City Susan Jane Ferrell, 37, Oklahoma City Dr. George Michael Howard, 45, Vallejo, Calif. Antonio "Tony" C. Reyes, 55, Edmond Lanny Lee David Scroggins, 46, Yukon Leora Lee Sells, 57, Oklahoma City Jules A. Valdez, 51, Edmond David Jack Walker, 54, Edmond Michael D. Weaver, 54, Edmond Frances "Fran" Ann Williams, 48, Oklahoma City Clarence Eugene Wilson, Sr. 49, Oklahoma SEVENTH FLOOR U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development Diane E. (Hollingsworth) Althouse, 45, Edmond Andrea Yvette Blanton, 33, Oklahoma City Kim R. Cousins, 33, Midwest City Diana Lynne Day, 38, Oklahoma City Castine Brooks Hearn Deveroux, 49, Oklahoma City Judy J. (Froh) Fisher, 45, Oklahoma City Linda Louise Florence, 43, Oklahoma City J. Colleen Guiles, 59, Oklahoma City Thompson Eugene "Gene" Hodges, Jr., 54, Norman Ann Kreymborg, 57, Oklahoma City Teresa Lea Taylor Lauderdale, 41, Shawnee Mary Leasure-Rentie, 39, Bethany James A. McCarthy II, 53, Edmond Betsy J. (Beebe) McGonnell, 47, Norman Patricia Ann Nix, 47, Edmond Terry Smith Rees, 41, Midwest City John Thomas Stewart, 51, Oklahoma City John Karl Van Ess III, 67, Chickasha Jo Ann Whittenberg, 35, Oklahoma City SIXTH FLOOR U.S. Marine Corps Recruiting Sgt. Benjamin LaRanzo Davis, USMC, 29, Edmond Capt. Randolph A. Guzman, USMC, 28, Castro Valley, Calif. FIFTH FLOOR U.S. Department of Agriculture Olen Burl Bloomer, 61, Moore James E. Boles, 50, Oklahoma City Dr. Margaret L. "Peggy" Clark, 42, Chickasha Richard "Dick" Cummins, 55, Mustang Doris "Adele" Higginbottom, 44, Oklahoma City Carole Sue Khalil, 50, Oklahoma City Rheta Bender Long, 60, Oklahoma City U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development Paul Gregory Beatty Broxterman, 42, Edmond U.S. Customs Office Paul D. Ice, 42, Midwest City Claude Authur Medearis, S.S.A., 41, Norman FOURTH FLOOR U.S. Department of Transportation/Federal Highway Lucio Aleman, Jr., 33, Oklahoma City Mark Allen Bolte, 28, Oklahoma City Michael Carrillo, 44, Oklahoma City Larry James Jones, 46. Yukon James K. Martin, 34, Oklahoma City Ronota Ann Newberry-Woodbridge, 31, Edmond Jerry Lee Parker, 45, Norman Michelle A. Reeder, 33, Oklahoma City Rick L. Tomlin, 46, Piedmont Johnny Allen Wade, 42, Edmond John A. Youngblood, 52, Yukon U.S. Army Recruiting Battalion Sgt. 1st Class Lola Bolden, U.S. Army, 40, Birmingham, Ala. Karen Gist Carr, 32, Midwest City Peggy Louise Holland, 37, Oklahoma City John C. Moss III., 50, Oklahoma City Victoria (Vickey) L. Sohn, 36, Moore Dolores (Dee) Stratton, 51, Moore Kayla Marie Titsworth, 3.50, Lawton Wanda Lee Watkins, 49, Oklahoma City THIRD FLOOR Defense Security Service Harley Richard Cottingham, 46, Oklahoma City Peter L. DeMaster, 44, Oklahoma City Norma "Jean" Johnson, 62, Oklahoma City Larry L. Turner, 42, Oklahoma City Robert G. Westberry, 57, Oklahoma City Federal Employees Credit Union Woodrow Clifford "Woody" Brady, 41, Oklahoma City Kimberly Ruth Burgess, 29, Oklahoma City Kathy A. Finley, 44, Yukon Jamie (Fialkowski) Genzer, 32, Wellston Sheila R. Gigger-Driver, 28, Oklahoma City Linda Coleen Housley, 53, Oklahoma City Robbin Ann Huff, 37, Bethany Christi Yolanda Jenkins, 32, Edmond Alvin J. Justes, 54, Oklahoma City Valerie Jo Koelsch, 33, Oklahoma City Kathy Cagle Leinen, 47, Oklahoma City Claudette (Duke) Meek, 43, Oklahoma City Frankie Ann Merrell, 23, Oklahoma City Jill Diane Randolph, 27, Oklahoma City Claudine Ritter, 48, Oklahoma City Christy Rosas, 22, Moore Sonja Lynn Sanders, 27, Moore Karan Howell Shepherd, 27, Moore Victoria Jeanette Texter, 37, Oklahoma City Virginia M. Thompson, 56, El Reno Tresia Jo "Mathes" Worton, 28, Oklahoma City SECOND FLOOR America's Kids Child Development Center Baylee Almon, 1, Oklahoma City Danielle Nicole Bell, 15 months, Oklahoma City Zachary Taylor Chavez, 3, Oklahoma City Dana LeAnne Cooper, 24, Moore Anthony Christopher Cooper II, 2, Moore Antonio Ansara Cooper Jr., 6 months, Midwest City Aaron M. Coverdale, 5.50, Oklahoma City Elijah S. Coverdale, 2.50, Oklahoma City Jaci Rae Coyne, 14 months, Moore Brenda Faye Daniels, 42, Oklahoma City Taylor Santoi Eaves, 8 months, Midwest City Tevin D'Aundrae Garrett, 16 months, Midwest City Kevin "Lee" Gottshall II, 6 months, Norman Wanda Lee Howell, 34, Spencer Blake Ryan Kennedy, 1.50, Amber Dominique Ravae (Johnson)-London, 2, Oklahoma City Chase Dalton Smith, 3, Oklahoma City Colton Wade Smith, 2, Oklahoma City VISITOR Scott D. Williams, 24, Tuttle FIRST FLOOR Social Security Administration Teresa Antionette Alexander, 33, Oklahoma City Richard A. Allen, 46, Oklahoma City Pamela Cleveland Argo, 36, Oklahoma City Saundra G. (Sandy) Avery, 34, Midwest City Calvin Battle, 62, Oklahoma City Peola Battle, 56, Oklahoma City Oleta C. Biddy, 54, Tuttle Casandra Kay Booker, 25, Oklahoma City Carol Louise Bowers, 53, Yukon Peachlyn Bradley, 3, Oklahoma City Gabreon D.L. Bruce, 3 months, Oklahoma City Katherine Louise Cregan, 60, Oklahoma City Ashley Megan Eckles, 4, Guthrie Don Fritzler, 64, Oklahoma City Mary Anne Fritzler, 57, Oklahoma City Laura Jane Garrison, 61, Oklahoma City Margaret Betterton Goodson, 54, Oklahoma City Ethel L. Griffin, 55, Edmond Cheryl E. Hammon, 44, Oklahoma City Ronald Vernon Harding, Sr., 55, Oklahoma City Thomas Lynn Hawthorne, Sr., 52, Choctaw Dr. Charles E. Hurlburt, 73, Oklahoma City Jean Nutting Hurlburt, 67, Oklahoma City Raymond "Lee" Johnson, 59, Oklahoma City LaKesha Richardson Levy, 21, Midwest City Aurelia Donna Luster, 43, Guthrie Robert Lee Luster, Jr., 45, Guthrie Rev. Gilbert X. Martinez, 35, Oklahoma City Cartney J. McRaven, 19, Midwest City Derwin W. Miller, 27, Oklahoma City Eula Leigh Mitchell, 64, Oklahoma City Emilio Tapia, 50, Oklahoma City Charlotte Andrea Lewis Thomas, 43, Oklahoma City Michael George Thompson, 47, Yukon LaRue A. Treanor, 55, Guthrie Luther H. Treanor, 61, Guthrie Robert N. Walker, Jr., 52, Oklahoma City Julie Marie Welch, 23, Oklahoma City W. Stephen Williams, 42, Cashion Sharon Louise Wood-Chesnut, 47, Oklahoma City General Services Administration Steven Douglas Curry, 44, Norman Michael L. Loudenslager, 48, Harrah THOSE KILLED IN SURROUNDING AREA Rescue Worker Rebecca Needham Anderson, 37, Midwest City Athenian Building (Job Corps) Anita Christine Hightower, 27, Oklahoma City Kathryn Elizabeth Ridley, 24, Oklahoma City Oklahoma Water Resources Board Building Robert N. Chipman, 51, Edmond Trudy Jean Rigney, 31, Midwest City
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Yeah I do. [b] Died February 28, 1993 Waco, Texas Winston Blake, 28, black, British Peter Gent, 24, white, Australian Peter Hipsman, 28, white, American Perry Jones, 64, white, American Michael Schroeder, 29, white, American Jaydean Wendell, 34, Asian, American Died April 19, 1993 Waco, Texas Katherine Andrade, 24, white, American Chanel Andrade, 1, white, American Jennifer Andrade, 19, white, American George Bennett, 35, black, British Susan Benta, 31, black, British Mary Jean Borst, 49, white, American Pablo Cohen, 38, white, Israeli Abedowalo Davies, 30, black, British Shari Doyle, 18, white, American Beverly Elliot, 30, black, British Yvette Fagan, 32, black, British Doris Fagan, 51, black, British Lisa Marie Farris, 24, white, American Raymond Friesen, 76, white, Canadian Sandra Hardial, 27, black, British Zilla Henry, 55, black, British Vanessa Henry, 19, black, British Phillip Henry, 22, black, British Paulina Henry, 24, black, British Stephen Henry, 26, black, British Diana Henry, 28, black, British Novellette Hipsman, 36, black, American Floyd Houtman, 61, black, American Sherri Jewell, 43, Asian, American David M. Jones, 38, white, American David Koresh, 33, white, American Rachel Koresh, 24, white, American Cyrus Koresh, 8, white, American Star Koresh, 6, white, American Bobbie Lane Koresh, 2, white, American Jeffery Little, 32, white, American Nicole Gent Little, 24, white, Australian and unborn child Dayland Gent, 3, white, American Page Gent, 1, white, American Livingston Malcolm, 26, black, British Diane Martin, 41, black, British Wayne Martin, Sr., 42, black, American Lisa Martin, 13, black, American Sheila Martin, Jr., 15, black, American Anita Martin, 18, black, American Wayne Martin, Jr., 20, black, American Julliete Martinez, 30, Mexican American Crystal Martinez, 3, Mexican American Isaiah Martinez, 4, Mexican American Joseph Martinez, 8, Mexican American Abigail Martinez, 11, Mexican American Audrey Martinez, 13, Mexican American John-Mark McBean, 27, black, British Bernadette Monbelly, 31, black, British Rosemary Morrison, 29, black, British Melissa Morrison, 6, black, British Sonia Murray, 29, black, American Theresa Nobrega, 48, black, British James Riddle, 32, white, American Rebecca Saipaia, 24, Asian, Phillipino Steve Schneider, 43, white, American Judy Schneider, 41, white, American Mayanah Schneider, 2, white, American Clifford Sellors, 33, white, British Scott Kojiro Sonobe, 35, Asian, American Floracita Sonobe, 34, Asian, Phillipino Gregory Summers, 28, white, American Aisha Gyrfas Summers, 17, white, Australian and unborn child Startle Summers, 1, white, American Lorraine Sylvia, 40, white, American Rachel Sylvia, 12, white, American Hollywood Sylvia, 1, white, American Michelle Jones Thibodeau, 18, white, American Serenity Jones, 4, white, American Chica Jones, 2, white, American Little One Jones, 2, white, American Neal Vaega, 38, Asian, New Zealander Margarida Vaega, 47, Asian, New Zealander Mark H. Wendell, 40, Asian, American [/b]
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I think Horihuchi became an [b]instructor[/b] for the [b]F[/b]vcking [b]B[/b]unch of [b]I[/b]diots. Louis Freeh kept his job and retirement benfits and did Janet Reno. WTF is that shit?? Those mofo's should have all been in prison. Did we hear an outcry from other LEO's- fvck no!!! Damn near brought the shit on themselves. >> I have family friends on the OKC list and the first list was not too far from where I live so flame someone else. Later I had an office withing site of the Federal Courthouse where they had the Branch Davidian 'trial' I stayed home on 4.19. for a couple of years.
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 10:45:12 AM EDT
Originally Posted By mike103: For more information about JBT's visit WWW.NLEOMF.COM JBT Facts: one JBT is killed every 53 hours 165 JBT's are killed each year 72 JBT's were killed on 9-11-01 188 female JBT's have been killed 16,000 JBT's killed since 1792 576 NYC JBT's have been killed For a real good time you can visit the wall on mothers day and fathers day and watch the little JBT's trace their mother and fathers name. MIKE.
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How many of those were [i]MURDERED[/i] -vs- how many died in car accidents and such? Big difference between getting gunned down on the job and being a shitty driver. Baltimore regularly loses officers due to their own incompetent driving. Not many folks on this board would mourn my death if I went out and stuffed my car into a telephone pole today.
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 11:00:25 AM EDT
Originally Posted By mike103: For more information about JBT's visit WWW.NLEOMF.COM JBT Facts: one JBT is killed every 53 hours 165 JBT's are killed each year 72 JBT's were killed on 9-11-01 188 female JBT's have been killed 16,000 JBT's killed since 1792 576 NYC JBT's have been killed For a real good time you can visit the wall on mothers day and fathers day and watch the little JBT's trace their mother and fathers name. MIKE.
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Look its somebody that doesnt know the difference between a 'peace officer' and a 'JBT'. Or it is someone attempting to camoflague JBT with the real peace officers, which would mean it is a JBT apologist, which is WORSE than a JBT.
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 12:28:08 PM EDT
The popular definition seems to be "any cop who writes you a ticket, any cop who enforces a law you disagree with, or any cop that doesnt immediately arrest the person you want arrrested."
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 12:38:09 PM EDT
Not many folks on this board would mourn my death if I went out and stuffed my car into a telephone pole today.
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Some would welcome it
Link Posted: 6/22/2003 6:49:35 AM EDT
anyone have that "some vermin wear kevlar hides, punch through" picture?
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