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Posted: 6/15/2003 8:25:53 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 8:38:10 AM EDT
as much as I like norinco products Fuckem the chinese are our real enemies and there is no reason we should be funding them. When we have to fight them we don't want them to have even more military power. lets just hope they don't get a real good navy.
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 8:40:15 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 8:50:02 AM EDT
norinco is like the chinese governments manufacturing company, I think anyways bush is banning everything not just guns. there is plenty of guns from other places.
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 8:54:58 AM EDT
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer: What were all those guys saying about Bush is 2nd amedment freindly? I hate to say it but i don't think my vote is going to be there in 2004. It's getting VERY hard to support him. The dems are worse so that doesn't leave much for options.
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Who else are you going to support hitlery? Bush is our friend, in texas he did right to carry and recently I heard he pardoned some guy for illegally carrying or something like that. He has also worked it out so that the AWB won't pass with out looking bad to the antis and keeping his promise. and the administration has also interpreted the 2nd as a individual right.
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 8:56:16 AM EDT
I do not nor will EVER support those Red fucking bastards !!!!!!!!! I have NOTHING in my home that is made in China !!! May all those in the RED HOARD roast in HELL !!!! And they can take Bill Clinton & Al Gore, their buddies, with them !!!!!!! I won't buy ANYTHING made in China. They will be our next combattants after we clean out the SHITHOLE that is the Middle East.
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 8:58:20 AM EDT
Banning guns is bad; banning Chinese stuff is good. Banning Chinese guns doesn't bother me.
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 8:59:31 AM EDT
Originally Posted By sniper1az: I have NOTHING in my home that is made in China !!!
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Then you must have nothing in your home. [:D]
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 8:59:34 AM EDT
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer: i am torn over that. I do think supporting the chinese arms companies is not a good thing. Then again there is so much chinese crap already here it likely wouldn't make a big difference. [red]Sounds like back end gun control to me.[/red] What were all those guys saying about Bush is 2nd amedment freindly? I hate to say it but i don't think my vote is going to be there in 2004. It's getting VERY hard to support him. The dems are worse so that doesn't leave much for options.
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While I dearly do love a good conspiricy, I don't think that's the case here. My question is why just Norinco?? Tha article makes clear that ALL civilian and military production are interchangable in China. Why single out Norinco... (Shit, now that I wrote that, you may be right!!!)
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 9:03:11 AM EDT
If Hamas or Al Qaeda raised funds by selling widgets in our country I'd expect them to shut it down too - even if the widgets were firearms. We oughta stop importing even more ChiComm shit.
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 9:18:41 AM EDT
FYI, Under a '93 Clinton trade deal, China 'volunteered' to cease all exports of centerfire arms to the US. THAT was backdoor control, as China was granted much more than it gave up in the deal, so they were only too happy to stop arms exports.
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 9:29:58 AM EDT
sniper1az:
I do not nor will EVER support those Red fucking bastards !!!!!!!!! I have NOTHING in my home that is made in China !!! May all those in the RED HOARD roast in HELL !!!! And they can take Bill Clinton & Al Gore, their buddies, with them !!!!!!! I won't buy ANYTHING made in China. They will be our next combattants after we clean out the SHITHOLE that is the Middle East.
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It kills me to see someone so..... undecided.[BD]
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 9:34:08 AM EDT
Gun control of another flavor. To appease those DUSheeple maybe?, glad theres still the chinese polytech?....... they're both chicom knockoffs.[;)]
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 9:41:03 AM EDT
Cheap Chinese Commie Crap,.....we can't get enough of it? OTOH we used to say the same thing about Japanese stuff.
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 9:46:35 AM EDT
[b]China's Top 20 Import and Export Companies[/b] [url]http://www.chinavista.com/business/500/home.html[/url] [b]5th largest[/b] [b][red]NORINCO[/red][/b] President: Wang Liansheng Postcode: 100045 Excutive Vice President: Executive Zhao Jiazheng Add: 7A Yue Tan Nan st Beijing Vice President: Li Zhanmin, Lu Zhongying, Fax: (010)8533236 Yang Wenruo, Huang ruzhen, Dong Feng, Telex: 22339 CNIC CN Chen Zhidong, Hao Mingjiu, Gu Yongchun Founded:Feb.25,1980 Tel of G.M: 8533695 Staff: 2000 Tel of Business: 8513716 8512244-326 SURVEY A broad range of the business engaged in by NORINCO includes :export and import business for special products and special- purpose equipment, mechanical products, light industrial products, chemical products, optical and electronic products, textile fabric, rubber products, native raw material for industrial use, ferrous, non- ferrous and non-metallic minerals and their products, medical apparatus and instruments, foodstuff, handicrafts, garments,instruments and meters as well as forage, etx., contracting, engineering projects and labour export and cooperation, processing according to drawing or samples offered by clients, projects and labour export and cooperation, processing according to drawings or samples offered by clients, processing or assembling from material or components offered by clients , barter transaction, transit trade, overseas advertising, consulting and information service, exhibition and technology interchange, housing and estate developing buisness, etc. , technology import and export business, domestic trade business for above mentioned import- exported goods under barter trade, automobiles and other products.
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 9:53:54 AM EDT
I agree in principle with anti-Chinese sentiment, but only because of the Communist political position of the Chinese. If they were to abandon Communism/socialism, I'd have no problem with them. But then again...one of the most fun any of us could ever have on vacation would be to visit the Norinco manufacturing facility's visitor's complex, where YOU can, for a relatively small amount of money, try out virtually every defense product they make. RPG's are something like seven bucks a shot, and you can try out full auto AK's for a handful of bucks and a case of ammo is like 20 bucks. I think you can even try your hand at driving a tank or fire a field artillery piece! It'd be huge fun to go out there with about a thouand dollars, a video camera, and an intent to get your money's worth! If I can find a link to this, I'll post it. CJ
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 9:59:32 AM EDT
The Chinese will change the name of the company and bring their stuff in under a new name, our gobment knows this, it's all political games to make the peeps think someone is keeping watch over the waterhole. I do love my Norinco AK though, it's an inanimate object, could have been made in Canada right.
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 1:09:27 PM EDT
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer: What were all those guys saying about Bush is 2nd amedment freindly? I hate to say it but i don't think my vote is going to be there in 2004. It's getting VERY hard to support him. The dems are worse so that doesn't leave much for options.
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I wish that there were some pro gun democrats... the budget busting policy is pissing me off. [img]http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/debtc.gif[/img]
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 1:21:24 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Am-O-Tramp: The Chinese will change the name of the company and bring their stuff in under a new name, our gobment knows this, it's all political games to make the peeps think someone is keeping watch over the waterhole.
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Very true. No products have been banned, merely a company. The company will be "sold" off in phoney trades and the products will be imported under new names. It really isn't going to have much of an effect. I think we should worry about something other than this. The retail price on those trenchguns wasn't much lower than the price on a Mossberg anyway. I guess some people would rather have a trenchgun ? ? ? To me it's not a second amendment issue.
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 1:48:34 PM EDT
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great news, fuck the chi-commies! Americans should not be helping to pay for their missile/arms/military advancements
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 1:54:11 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Oslow: Banning guns is bad; banning Chinese stuff is good. Banning Chinese guns doesn't bother me.
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Same feelings here.
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 2:05:26 PM EDT
You ban Chinese guns, then a half hour later you want to ban them again.
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 2:23:03 PM EDT
Originally Posted By KODoc: You ban Chinese guns, then a half hour later you want to ban them again.
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[LOLabove]
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