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Posted: 6/11/2003 9:13:27 PM EDT
My wife is from Maryland and we now live in Michigan. Occaisonally the issue of how bad my job sucks and how bad the job market around here is comes up in conversation with my wife. She wants to move back to Annapolis, and I have told her that there is no way I am going to live in a state that curbs liberty the way MD does. Her latest compromise has been NE Virginia, so I was wondering how Virginia rates in terms of gun regulations, CCW, Constitutional liberty, etc... Please let me know!
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 12:05:53 AM EDT
Originally Posted By JackBurton: My wife is from Maryland and we now live in Michigan. Occaisonally the issue of how bad my job sucks and how bad the job market around here is comes up in conversation with my wife. She wants to move back to Annapolis, and I have told her that there is no way I am going to live in a state that curbs liberty the way MD does. Her latest compromise has been NE Virginia, so I was wondering how Virginia rates in terms of gun regulations, CCW, Constitutional liberty, etc... Please let me know!
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Virginia smells weird (but not as bad as MD) but you can get a "shall issue" CCL plus any NFA goodies you can afford. Chimbrozo can tell you more, especially any pending legislation. I've lived in MD for over ten years and have decided it will be the first state i will nuke when i get my own country :D
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 12:07:19 AM EDT
...Oh yeah, i forgot. Virginia is a "Commonwealth"-whatever the fuck that means. Im not sharing any of mine.
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 4:58:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/12/2003 7:24:27 AM EDT by u-baddog]
(edited to add I didnt see the what part of VA )Here in the tidewater area its not too bad. If you pass the normal crap. You should get a CCW. Public ranges in the Norfolk area number about 4 and the privates that i know about is 2. Check out the Hometown section
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 5:16:05 AM EDT
I would not live in N.E. Virginia again to save my life. I spent 20 years in McLean, Falls Church, Manassas, Annandale areas and it SUCKS. Traffic is the least of your worries. Crime is terrible. The housing is double even triple what it is here in the Tidewater area. I really like this area I'm in now.
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 5:22:57 AM EDT
Originally Posted By bvmjethead: I would not live in N.E. Virginia again to save my life. I spent 20 years in McLean, Falls Church, Manassas, Annandale areas and it SUCKS. Traffic is the least of your worries. Crime is terrible. The housing is double even triple what it is here in the Tidewater area. I really like this area I'm in now.
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He speakum the truth! I love Annapolis as a city but it's in MD and way to oeffing expensive. Next choice is VA. Northern Va is a fooking mess you have to see to believe. It's abosuf***inglutely nuts up there. Townhomes going for $300,000+ [shock], gridlock on seemingly EVERY road, and then there's the crime. Put it this way among other things not workling out with my new job I unassed the AO in 2 days and haven't looked back. I'm a semi country boy and the tidewater area suits me just fine. IM or e-mail me if you have any questions. Also check out the hometown forum.
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 5:46:14 AM EDT
Northern VA only has two drawbacks - the cost of living and the traffic. If your household can make around $130k, the cost of living won't be a problem. Can't do anything about the traffic, other tan plan accordingly. I usually come to work late and leave late, so I miss the bad traffic, but I came in earlier than usual today (right in the 8-9 slot) and traffic wasn't too bad. Don't believe the negative hype. NoVa is one of the most desirable places in the country to live.
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 5:47:31 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 6:33:06 AM EDT
Originally Posted By NoVaGator: Northern VA only has two drawbacks - the cost of living and the traffic. If your household can make around $130k, the cost of living won't be a problem. Can't do anything about the traffic, other tan plan accordingly. I usually come to work late and leave late, so I miss the bad traffic, but I came in earlier than usual today (right in the 8-9 slot) and traffic wasn't too bad. Don't believe the negative hype. NoVa is one of the most desirable places in the country to live.
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I second this....The cost of living is high but your income is also much higher than anywhere else. Crime rate is much lower than DC or MD. Traffic is a pain, but like he said...plan accordingly. Gun issues are not bad at all comparing to DC or MD.
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 6:37:26 AM EDT
Originally Posted By bvmjethead: Crime is terrible.
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[>:/] That's a new one on me.....
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 6:40:50 AM EDT
Originally Posted By PONY_DRIVER: ...and then there's the crime....
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[>:/] This is very odd that two of you both mention "crime". You all were living in "diverse" neighborhoods, huh? Stick to the upper middle class stuff and you will not notice "real crime". You might have the typical teenage punk's type stuff, but not murder and mayhem like Detroit or LA or DC. Yes, check the hometown board..... I'll see if I can salvage the linky for you.....BennyFranklin started the thread. Ed
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 6:45:10 AM EDT
[url=http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=24&t=168108&w=searchPop]Benny's RECON mission...RE: Virginia[/url] [url=http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=24&t=169430&w=searchPop]More of Benny's adventures...[/url] [url=http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=24&t=169005&w=searchPop]Benny visits Virginia[/url] You have to come down here and see. If your wife is from MD, she'll know the drill. DO NOT LIVE IN MARYLAND -- DON'T DO IT.....if these guys think crime is bad here in NoVA they would shit brick for crime in MD.... [;)]
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 6:54:36 AM EDT
Originally Posted By SHIVAN458: [url=http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=24&t=168108&w=searchPop]Benny's RECON mission...RE: Virginia[/url] [url=http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=24&t=169430&w=searchPop]More of Benny's adventures...[/url] [url=http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=24&t=169005&w=searchPop]Benny visits Virginia[/url] You have to come down here and see. If your wife is from MD, she'll know the drill. DO NOT LIVE IN MARYLAND -- DON'T DO IT.....if these guys think crime is bad here in NoVA they would shit brick for crime in MD.... [;)]
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Hey! Finally something I'm good for. [:D]
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 6:59:16 AM EDT
SHIVAN, Yes it depends on where you live, ut consider this...not everyone can afford a "good" (IMO) place to live. Also the high number and concentration of people ='s a higher crime rate. FWIW I'd take NorVA over DC/parts of MD anyday.
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 8:36:31 AM EDT
You would NOT like the Socialist State of Maryland. I live in the Fredericksburg area and take the train to work in Crystal City every day. Cost of living down in our area is far lower than Northern VA but climbing slowly with real estate prices as more and more folks move into our area. We live in a very gun friendly state. You would like it.
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 8:41:53 AM EDT
I grew up in Michigan and just left Maryland after 11 years. I wasn't happy there. Too many people, too much government, too much traffic, too many rules & restrictions, too many gestapho looking to bust you any way they can. Too much crime (#1 in robbery for the last 8 years), no legal means to protect yourself. The job market is pretty good, but housing prices are getting scary high. You'd need a lot of money to live there well. High taxes. Northern Virginia is as bad or worse in the traffic department, and house prices are high. However, CCW is readily available, the ethnic population is more trustworthy (ie: commit less crimes) and taxes are lower. How about living in PA and commuting down into MD?
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