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Posted: 6/4/2003 10:36:14 AM EDT
I just got out of a workplace violence training program put on by OSHA and the Kentucky Labor Cabinet. According to what we were told, a person is a threat to the workplace if: You own 2 9mm Want to get an AK-40 (yes that is what she called it) You discuss guns That if you own a gun you are more likely to use it for violence You know how to use a deer rifle But none of this is applies to the average joe deer hunter or antique firearms collector I'm amazed at how deep the liberal anti-gun BS has spread. What we were basically told is anyone that wants or owns a gun is nutcase that you have to watch out for but we don't want to piss off the sportsmen so hunters aren't included.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 10:40:25 AM EDT
Yes, I am a threat to my workplace. it's the only thing that keeps me employed!
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 10:40:51 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 10:45:00 AM EDT
Heck, if that's all it takes to be a threat to MY workplace, the odds are that I'm a threat to YOUR workplace! 2 9mm. Pfffft.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 10:47:06 AM EDT
Should've asked what EXACTLY is an AK-40, and why it's so dangerous...[rolleyes]
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 10:54:31 AM EDT
Originally Posted By slacko: Should've asked what EXACTLY is an AK-40, and why it's so dangerous...[rolleyes]
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Yeah that's exactly what I want to do, draw attention to myself by knowing the details of high powered assault weapons. Before I even started this job everyone was going around saying I was a "gun nut" even though I had never talked to them. I knew someone else at the company who was labled a "gun nut" so they just assumed I was. I have been very quite about my hobby at work yet I still get people I've never talked about guns to asking me gun related questions. BTW, the company is about 75% female with a couple vocal anti-gunners.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 11:10:12 AM EDT
I'd ask how they got their information for the presentation and their qualifications as a presenter.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 11:11:59 AM EDT
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Maybe she was confusing it with WD-40. That is a mysterious guy thing too. (dammit, hit the mouse button) That is like asking me about cross-stitching, or those aircraft hijacking capable knitting needles.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 11:18:50 AM EDT
I don't know what an AK40 and don't care... [thinking] Just know that I want one [;D]
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 11:27:20 AM EDT
so, swire, you'd get discriminated against at your work because you own guns legally? sounds like your liberal coworkers are some hypocritical f*cks. they probably wouldn't discriminate against a black man either - until they found out that he grew up in the ghetto... ooh, that makes him dangerous. yeah, well, my opposable thumbs make me the most dangerous animal on the planet. protect your eyesockets immediately, you anti-gun weirdos!
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 11:32:35 AM EDT
They should see the pictures on the top of my tool boxes at work [BD] They are more worried that I don't have any pics up that would offend Lesbo/Fudgepackers and other assorted special peoples[rolleyes]
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 11:43:29 AM EDT
[url]http://www.kdla.state.ky.us/Statelib/_ArchivedBibs/SLS_GSCResources_VW.htm[/url] [url]http://gsc.state.ky.us/toVIW.htm[/url] [url]http://www.osha-slc.gov/SLTC/workplaceviolence/[/url]
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 12:40:34 PM EDT
Welcome to the snake pit my friend. In the Army I was stationed at a hospital where the ratio of men to women was similar to your work place. Let's just say I've had enough sensitivity training to actually cause my body to begin producing large amounts of estrogen. A transfer to an infantry unit corrected this of course. THe environment at the hospital was a backstabbing rumor infested feeling fest where hurting someone's feelings was enough to induce UCMJ action. Glad to be gone, and sorry you're there. I hope you don't get into trouble for your hobby. They'll probably never confront you about it, just stab you in the back whenever they can. Good luck, and God bless. PS, it sounds like you are a tactfull enough person to steer clear of these problems. I on the other hand have all the tact of a junkyard dog.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 12:51:25 PM EDT
i must be sane, i only have one 9mm
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 2:35:06 PM EDT
OMG I might be a danger to my workplace, not to mention that likely terrorist lady I work with whos husband is a dealer. They have a safe full and I have seen them and her permit OMG. And my boss OMG he has a high powerd hunting rifle with a scope and it's black. I can't believe I havn't seen a shooting there yet[:(!]
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 2:39:18 PM EDT
Ok, I work at a gun shop. I guess I'll have to just point and grunt at the guns to customers. (They do this to me, so I guess it's only fair...)
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 2:39:25 PM EDT
thank god I am not a threat I only own a 9mm and a .45!
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 2:52:58 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 1911greg: thank god I am not a threat I only own a 9mm and a .45!
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I wonder if "Magnums" count extra?
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 2:58:46 PM EDT
Ha! Just read guns & ammo and the big book of assault rifles on your lunch break at the US Post Office
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 3:03:22 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 2IDdoc: THe environment at the hospital was a backstabbing rumor infested feeling fest where hurting someone's feelings was enough to induce UCMJ action.
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You just described my work place down to the T. I have to watch my back constantly or someone will stick a knife in it.
They'll probably never confront you about it, just stab you in the back whenever they can.
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As long as I don't offend someone with any amount of power, it will never be an issue. But if I do and they are looking for a way to get rid of me, I'm sure that will be one of their "concerns". The good news is this is Kentucky and I've heard a large number of women talking about the guns they own. So it's more "acceptable" where I work. One even sold her gun on the public employee for sale message board.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 3:07:57 PM EDT
So my Python .357 mag isn't a threat to anything?
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 3:14:07 PM EDT
So does that mean someone with (6) 45s is ok.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 3:17:13 PM EDT
A few people over heard me talk about guns and shooting at my work. Now there is a group of us that goes out to dinner and shooting every couple of months. I do get some looks when I have a Shotgun News and a I am ordering guns (C&R).
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 3:17:47 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 1911greg: thank god I am not a threat I only own a 9mm and a .45!
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I'm with you! Plus assorted rifles.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 3:20:32 PM EDT
Dang, I have 2 9mils, guess I am threat, bet they feel safe with me on vacation and all right now......
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 3:21:47 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 9divdoc: Ha! Just read guns & ammo and the big book of assault rifles on your lunch break at the US Post Office
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[lolabove]
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 3:22:07 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 3:36:12 PM EDT
Originally Posted By shotar: Now, this is not to say that it is a perse anti gun agenda. It really is common knowledge that in past years a number of people have gone off their rocker and shot people in the workplace.
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The one statistic that I found interesting was that over the last 10 years, that's how old her data was, that homicides have gone down but work place homicides have actually increased. But most of those are convience stores getting shot up, not an office building.
She actually I'm sure did not intend to be offensive.
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Her positions on guns seem to be her personal opinion as most of what she said about guns was not mentioned in the material. From her tone of voice and presentation I got the feeling she saw no use for guns.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 3:47:26 PM EDT
Me too, I safe and sound with only one 9x19 in a Sig P239 but wait, wait, that damn H&K P7M8 is a 9x19...
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 3:59:56 PM EDT
I think gun ownership is a requirement for employment at my office. All of my employees own guns. We have dear heads all over the office. I think I am the only "gun-nut".
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 4:11:47 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SWIRE: You own 2 9mm
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Ooh, only one. Then again, did they say guns? I own plenty of 9mm cartridges.
Want to get an AK-40 (yes that is what she called it)
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Umm... I want to get an AK-47. If an AK-40 was a real gun, I'd probably want it too. So I guess I can count this.
You discuss guns
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Check.
You know how to use a deer rifle
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Check. Hey, looks like I'm doing pretty well here. I represent a pretty solid threat to my workplace. [;D]
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 4:12:17 PM EDT
I work 12-8 AM because I such a f**k**g people person. Saturday is my private gunsmithing time because I'm the only one at work. I've used WD-40 on an AK-47, so does that make it an WAK-D40? I've also made good use of the pipe threading vise for FAL barrel changes, and the sawzall, drill press, and bench grinder for modifying rail mounts. I've also been in the building managers office to explain that I'm not a threat to the other employees. I told the manager that I've been around fully automatic military issue weapons since I was 18, and I haven't shot anyone yet. He told me to make sure I clean up after myself and don't get caught on any security cameras. I love my job...
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 4:14:17 PM EDT
Originally Posted By m193: I think gun ownership is a requirement for employment at my office. All of my employees own guns. We have dear heads all over the office. I think I am the only "gun-nut".
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Got any openings? [;)] What kind of work do you do then, if you don't mind me asking?
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 4:15:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/4/2003 4:16:16 PM EDT by SeaDweller]
I got two 9mms but no AK40 so I'm good to go!
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 4:25:50 PM EDT
I must be a threat to my workplace,too. My husband had the same bs spouted at him where he works. He works for a university, so figure the odds on all the anti's. I do talk about guns with some people but I am very careful around work who I talk to. Mostly it's ex-military,but I work in a town where they were protesting the war big time too.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 4:26:04 PM EDT
I'm definitely a threat, but I see that as a good thing.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 4:34:39 PM EDT
What if all you have is a .38 and a 10/22?
Link Posted: 6/5/2003 5:02:09 AM EDT
On the first point, I guess you guys with .40s and .357s are OK. Point 2: I don't have any idea what an AK-40 is, so I guess I'm OK with the AR-15 at home. Point 3: Guilty. BTW, even anti-gunners discuss guns, so I guess this confirms that they are indeed dangerous! Point 4: Yes, having one means I'm more likely to use one than if I don't have one (How's that for razor-sharp logic?). I am inclined to do violence on criminals who threaten my family or myself. Point 5: Do they have deer running around in the workplace? Are people hunting among the cubicles, waiting for some "prairie dogging"?
Link Posted: 6/5/2003 6:38:35 AM EDT
Damn...I wonder how they'd react if they knew what was in my Dillon Executive CCW bag? [peep]
Link Posted: 6/5/2003 6:56:37 AM EDT
This is BULL! I only own one 9mm. but I have 3 .45's! Oh wait I own a whole gun shop (half of it anyway) so I guess I'm a threat too :) Hey I dont have any of them there AK40's does an M1A count for something?
Link Posted: 6/5/2003 7:14:47 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Andreuha:
Originally Posted By m193: I think gun ownership is a requirement for employment at my office. All of my employees own guns. We have dear heads all over the office. I think I am the only "gun-nut".
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Got any openings? [;)] What kind of work do you do then, if you don't mind me asking?
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I meant deer heads. We're a Surveying and Engineering company. We're just countryboys. Doesn't everybody own a few guns?
Link Posted: 6/5/2003 7:31:25 AM EDT
damn... what if you own 3+ 9mms? can they have you thrown in the slammer?
Link Posted: 6/5/2003 7:32:06 AM EDT
I don't have 2 9mm's I have 3 , so I am no threat.
Link Posted: 6/5/2003 7:33:58 AM EDT
Originally Posted By SWIRE: According to what we were told, a person is a threat to the workplace if: You own 2 9mm Want to get an AK-40 (yes that is what she called it) You discuss guns [red]That if you own a gun you are more likely to use it for violence[/red] You know how to use a deer rifle But none of this is applies to the average joe deer hunter or antique firearms collector
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Total BS. They must have gotten their false information off of the Handgun Control Inc site.
Link Posted: 6/5/2003 7:39:05 AM EDT
THe environment at the hospital was a backstabbing rumor infested feeling fest where hurting someone's feelings was enough to induce UCMJ action.
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Hmmm, sounds like the place I was stationed. That's what ruined the military for me. 4 years at a MEDDAC.
Link Posted: 6/5/2003 7:40:21 AM EDT
Originally Posted By SWIRE: I just got out of a workplace violence training program put on by OSHA and the Kentucky Labor Cabinet. According to what we were told, a person is a threat to the workplace if: You own 2 9mm Want to get an AK-40 (yes that is what she called it) You discuss guns That if you own a gun you are more likely to use it for violence You know how to use a deer rifle But none of this is applies to the average joe deer hunter or antique firearms collector I'm amazed at how deep the liberal anti-gun BS has spread. What we were basically told is anyone that wants or owns a gun is nutcase that you have to watch out for but we don't want to piss off the sportsmen so hunters aren't included.
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I cant believe nobody's given this guy the PROPER proceedure for this situation. Once she got to the third point (discussing guns), you should have jumped up, pulled out your 9mm, and instructed her to drop to her face and place her under citizens arrest. SHE was a threat to your workplace, for discussing guns. Wonder how well that would have gone over.
Link Posted: 6/5/2003 7:44:56 AM EDT
Originally Posted By steenkybastage:
Originally Posted By SWIRE: I just got out of a workplace violence training program put on by OSHA and the Kentucky Labor Cabinet. According to what we were told, a person is a threat to the workplace if: You own 2 9mm Want to get an AK-40 (yes that is what she called it) You discuss guns That if you own a gun you are more likely to use it for violence You know how to use a deer rifle But none of this is applies to the average joe deer hunter or antique firearms collector I'm amazed at how deep the liberal anti-gun BS has spread. What we were basically told is anyone that wants or owns a gun is nutcase that you have to watch out for but we don't want to piss off the sportsmen so hunters aren't included.
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I cant believe nobody's given this guy the PROPER proceedure for this situation. Once she got to the third point (discussing guns), you should have jumped up, pulled out your 9mm, and instructed her to drop to her face and place her under citizens arrest. SHE was a threat to your workplace, for discussing guns. Wonder how well that would have gone over.
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Yeah! Good point. And being that you only pulled out 1 9mm, you are not a threat...
Link Posted: 6/5/2003 7:47:51 AM EDT
What if you don't have a working 9mm, but two 40S&W's?
Link Posted: 6/5/2003 8:03:35 AM EDT
OSHA - "Protecting stupid people for over 25 years" Hell, I hang my target results at work, and bring in pics of my newest toys. I used to feel that maybe I shouldnt talk about my hobby, but finally said screw it. I'm proud to be a shooter and collector, and refuse to sit in the 'dark corner'. I get a couple of folks who dont understand, but they're better off watching the home and garden channel anyways. Seems after I started talking about it, there were a couple other 'closet' collectors. Found out, the father of my coworkers actually builds black powder rifles and pistols - Everything from forging barrels, locks, etc as well as hand cut stocks. And for about a year now, I introduced another fella to collecting C&Rs as well. They don't see a gangbanger or 'terrorist' - but instead see an average everyday fella, married with a child who has a rather 'unique' collection of firearms. Hmmmm, I wonder if I'll ever hear this drivel presented by OSHA. God help the verbal ass whoopin' she'll receive.
Link Posted: 6/5/2003 8:34:43 AM EDT
Guess that makes me a freakin' terrorist, right??? Whatever... [rolleyes]
Link Posted: 6/5/2003 9:29:24 AM EDT
My supervisor accompanied me to our CCW class last year. Afterward he left his target that he used during qual behind. I snatched it up and took it home. The next day when he came to work it was hanging outside his cubicle with, [b]"So, you have a problem with my decisions? Step inside and we'll discuss it"[/b], written in the corner. Everybody had a laugh and it hung there for at least a month.
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