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Posted: 6/4/2003 10:36:14 AM EDT
I just got out of a workplace violence training program put on by OSHA and the Kentucky Labor Cabinet.
According to what we were told, a person is a threat to the workplace if: You own 2 9mm Want to get an AK-40 (yes that is what she called it) You discuss guns That if you own a gun you are more likely to use it for violence You know how to use a deer rifle But none of this is applies to the average joe deer hunter or antique firearms collector I'm amazed at how deep the liberal anti-gun BS has spread. What we were basically told is anyone that wants or owns a gun is nutcase that you have to watch out for but we don't want to piss off the sportsmen so hunters aren't included. |
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Yes, I am a threat to my workplace. it's the only thing that keeps me employed!
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Exactly right.
The whole security department I work in is a WPV threat according to that. |
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Heck, if that's all it takes to be a threat to MY workplace, the odds are that I'm a threat to YOUR workplace!
2 9mm. Pfffft. |
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Should've asked what EXACTLY is an AK-40, and why it's so dangerous...[rolleyes]
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Quoted: Should've asked what EXACTLY is an AK-40, and why it's so dangerous...[rolleyes] View Quote Yeah that's exactly what I want to do, draw attention to myself by knowing the details of high powered assault weapons. Before I even started this job everyone was going around saying I was a "gun nut" even though I had never talked to them. I knew someone else at the company who was labled a "gun nut" so they just assumed I was. I have been very quite about my hobby at work yet I still get people I've never talked about guns to asking me gun related questions. BTW, the company is about 75% female with a couple vocal anti-gunners. |
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I'd ask how they got their information for the presentation and their qualifications as a presenter.
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Maybe she was confusing it with WD-40. That is a mysterious guy thing too.
(dammit, hit the mouse button) That is like asking me about cross-stitching, or those aircraft hijacking capable knitting needles. |
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I don't know what an AK40 and don't care...
[thinking] Just know that I want one [;D] |
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so, swire, you'd get discriminated against at your work because you own guns legally?
sounds like your liberal coworkers are some hypocritical f*cks. they probably wouldn't discriminate against a black man either - until they found out that he grew up in the ghetto... ooh, that makes him dangerous. yeah, well, my opposable thumbs make me the most dangerous animal on the planet. protect your eyesockets immediately, you anti-gun weirdos! |
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They should see the pictures on the top of my tool boxes at work [BD] They are more worried that I don't have any pics up that would offend Lesbo/Fudgepackers and other assorted special peoples[rolleyes] |
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[url]http://www.kdla.state.ky.us/Statelib/_ArchivedBibs/SLS_GSCResources_VW.htm[/url]
[url]http://gsc.state.ky.us/toVIW.htm[/url] [url]http://www.osha-slc.gov/SLTC/workplaceviolence/[/url] |
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Welcome to the snake pit my friend. In the Army I was stationed at a hospital where the ratio of men to women was similar to your work place. Let's just say I've had enough sensitivity training to actually cause my body to begin producing large amounts of estrogen. A transfer to an infantry unit corrected this of course. THe environment at the hospital was a backstabbing rumor infested feeling fest where hurting someone's feelings was enough to induce UCMJ action. Glad to be gone, and sorry you're there. I hope you don't get into trouble for your hobby. They'll probably never confront you about it, just stab you in the back whenever they can. Good luck, and God bless.
PS, it sounds like you are a tactfull enough person to steer clear of these problems. I on the other hand have all the tact of a junkyard dog. |
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OMG I might be a danger to my workplace, not to mention that likely terrorist lady I work with whos husband is a dealer. They have a safe full and I have seen them and her permit OMG. And my boss OMG he has a high powerd hunting rifle with a scope and it's black. I can't believe I havn't seen a shooting there yet[:(!]
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Ok, I work at a gun shop. I guess I'll have to just point and grunt at the guns to customers.
(They do this to me, so I guess it's only fair...) |
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Quoted: thank god I am not a threat I only own a 9mm and a .45! View Quote I wonder if "Magnums" count extra? |
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Ha!
Just read guns & ammo and the big book of assault rifles on your lunch break at the US Post Office |
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Quoted: THe environment at the hospital was a backstabbing rumor infested feeling fest where hurting someone's feelings was enough to induce UCMJ action. View Quote You just described my work place down to the T. I have to watch my back constantly or someone will stick a knife in it. They'll probably never confront you about it, just stab you in the back whenever they can. View Quote As long as I don't offend someone with any amount of power, it will never be an issue. But if I do and they are looking for a way to get rid of me, I'm sure that will be one of their "concerns". The good news is this is Kentucky and I've heard a large number of women talking about the guns they own. So it's more "acceptable" where I work. One even sold her gun on the public employee for sale message board. |
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A few people over heard me talk about guns and shooting at my work. Now there is a group of us that goes out to dinner and shooting every couple of months. I do get some looks when I have a Shotgun News and a I am ordering guns (C&R).
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Quoted: thank god I am not a threat I only own a 9mm and a .45! View Quote I'm with you! Plus assorted rifles. |
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Dang, I have 2 9mils, guess I am threat, bet they feel safe with me on vacation and all right now......
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Quoted: Ha! Just read guns & ammo and the big book of assault rifles on your lunch break at the US Post Office View Quote [lolabove] |
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Swire:
As these public servants are required to provide educational seminars such as this to all compmanies that request same might I suggest that there are a few larger firearms distributors in your state. Perhaps contact one of them to invite the nice lady to give her speach there. That should be a hoot. Interestingly we had one of these as mandatory when I worked for a larger unit of government. It was interesting when they got to that part and realized that half the people in the room were cops and armed. They literally skipped the whole gun section even though it was given passing mention in the literature. Now, this is not to say that it is a perse anti gun agenda. It really is common knowledge that in past years a number of people have gone off their rocker and shot people in the workplace. My personal belief is that this is horrible and I truly believe that gun owners more than anyone else must keep their cool under all circumstances. I have a hard time finding fault with mentioning it in this context. The presenter should however be more informed about offending people based on legal property they own and it should be politely pointed out to her. She actually I'm sure did not intend to be offensive. |
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Quoted: Now, this is not to say that it is a perse anti gun agenda. It really is common knowledge that in past years a number of people have gone off their rocker and shot people in the workplace. View Quote The one statistic that I found interesting was that over the last 10 years, that's how old her data was, that homicides have gone down but work place homicides have actually increased. But most of those are convience stores getting shot up, not an office building. She actually I'm sure did not intend to be offensive. View Quote Her positions on guns seem to be her personal opinion as most of what she said about guns was not mentioned in the material. From her tone of voice and presentation I got the feeling she saw no use for guns. |
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Me too, I safe and sound with only one 9x19 in a Sig P239 but wait, wait, that damn H&K P7M8 is a 9x19...
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I think gun ownership is a requirement for employment at my office. All of my employees own guns. We have dear heads all over the office. I think I am the only "gun-nut".
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Quoted: You own 2 9mm View Quote Ooh, only one. Then again, did they say guns? I own plenty of 9mm cartridges. Want to get an AK-40 (yes that is what she called it) View Quote Umm... I want to get an AK-47. If an AK-40 was a real gun, I'd probably want it too. So I guess I can count this. You discuss guns View Quote Check. You know how to use a deer rifle View Quote Check. Hey, looks like I'm doing pretty well here. I represent a pretty solid threat to my workplace. [;D] |
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I work 12-8 AM because I such a f**k**g people person. Saturday is my private gunsmithing time because I'm the only one at work. I've used WD-40 on an AK-47, so does that make it an WAK-D40? I've also made good use of the pipe threading vise for FAL barrel changes, and the sawzall, drill press, and bench grinder for modifying rail mounts. I've also been in the building managers office to explain that I'm not a threat to the other employees. I told the manager that I've been around fully automatic military issue weapons since I was 18, and I haven't shot anyone yet. He told me to make sure I clean up after myself and don't get caught on any security cameras. I love my job...
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Quoted: I think gun ownership is a requirement for employment at my office. All of my employees own guns. We have dear heads all over the office. I think I am the only "gun-nut". View Quote Got any openings? [;)] What kind of work do you do then, if you don't mind me asking? |
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I must be a threat to my workplace,too. My husband had the same bs spouted at him where he works. He
works for a university, so figure the odds on all the anti's. I do talk about guns with some people but I am very careful around work who I talk to. Mostly it's ex-military,but I work in a town where they were protesting the war big time too. |
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On the first point, I guess you guys with .40s and .357s are OK.
Point 2: I don't have any idea what an AK-40 is, so I guess I'm OK with the AR-15 at home. Point 3: Guilty. BTW, even anti-gunners discuss guns, so I guess this confirms that they are indeed dangerous! Point 4: Yes, having one means I'm more likely to use one than if I don't have one (How's that for razor-sharp logic?). I am inclined to do violence on criminals who threaten my family or myself. Point 5: Do they have deer running around in the workplace? Are people hunting among the cubicles, waiting for some "prairie dogging"? |
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Damn...I wonder how they'd react if they knew what was in my Dillon Executive CCW bag? [peep]
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This is BULL! I only own one 9mm. but I have 3 .45's! Oh wait I own a whole gun shop (half of it anyway) so I guess I'm a threat too :)
Hey I dont have any of them there AK40's does an M1A count for something? |
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Quoted: Quoted: I think gun ownership is a requirement for employment at my office. All of my employees own guns. We have dear heads all over the office. I think I am the only "gun-nut". View Quote Got any openings? [;)] What kind of work do you do then, if you don't mind me asking? View Quote I meant deer heads. We're a Surveying and Engineering company. We're just countryboys. Doesn't everybody own a few guns? |
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damn... what if you own 3+ 9mms? can they have you thrown in the slammer?
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Quoted: According to what we were told, a person is a threat to the workplace if: You own 2 9mm Want to get an AK-40 (yes that is what she called it) You discuss guns [red]That if you own a gun you are more likely to use it for violence[/red] You know how to use a deer rifle But none of this is applies to the average joe deer hunter or antique firearms collector View Quote Total BS. They must have gotten their false information off of the Handgun Control Inc site. |
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THe environment at the hospital was a backstabbing rumor infested feeling fest where hurting someone's feelings was enough to induce UCMJ action. View Quote Hmmm, sounds like the place I was stationed. That's what ruined the military for me. 4 years at a MEDDAC. |
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Quoted: I just got out of a workplace violence training program put on by OSHA and the Kentucky Labor Cabinet. According to what we were told, a person is a threat to the workplace if: You own 2 9mm Want to get an AK-40 (yes that is what she called it) You discuss guns That if you own a gun you are more likely to use it for violence You know how to use a deer rifle But none of this is applies to the average joe deer hunter or antique firearms collector I'm amazed at how deep the liberal anti-gun BS has spread. What we were basically told is anyone that wants or owns a gun is nutcase that you have to watch out for but we don't want to piss off the sportsmen so hunters aren't included. View Quote I cant believe nobody's given this guy the PROPER proceedure for this situation. Once she got to the third point (discussing guns), you should have jumped up, pulled out your 9mm, and instructed her to drop to her face and place her under citizens arrest. SHE was a threat to your workplace, for discussing guns. Wonder how well that would have gone over. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I just got out of a workplace violence training program put on by OSHA and the Kentucky Labor Cabinet. According to what we were told, a person is a threat to the workplace if: You own 2 9mm Want to get an AK-40 (yes that is what she called it) You discuss guns That if you own a gun you are more likely to use it for violence You know how to use a deer rifle But none of this is applies to the average joe deer hunter or antique firearms collector I'm amazed at how deep the liberal anti-gun BS has spread. What we were basically told is anyone that wants or owns a gun is nutcase that you have to watch out for but we don't want to piss off the sportsmen so hunters aren't included. View Quote I cant believe nobody's given this guy the PROPER proceedure for this situation. Once she got to the third point (discussing guns), you should have jumped up, pulled out your 9mm, and instructed her to drop to her face and place her under citizens arrest. SHE was a threat to your workplace, for discussing guns. Wonder how well that would have gone over. View Quote Yeah! Good point. And being that you only pulled out 1 9mm, you are not a threat... |
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OSHA - "Protecting stupid people for over 25 years"
Hell, I hang my target results at work, and bring in pics of my newest toys. I used to feel that maybe I shouldnt talk about my hobby, but finally said screw it. I'm proud to be a shooter and collector, and refuse to sit in the 'dark corner'. I get a couple of folks who dont understand, but they're better off watching the home and garden channel anyways. Seems after I started talking about it, there were a couple other 'closet' collectors. Found out, the father of my coworkers actually builds black powder rifles and pistols - Everything from forging barrels, locks, etc as well as hand cut stocks. And for about a year now, I introduced another fella to collecting C&Rs as well. They don't see a gangbanger or 'terrorist' - but instead see an average everyday fella, married with a child who has a rather 'unique' collection of firearms. Hmmmm, I wonder if I'll ever hear this drivel presented by OSHA. God help the verbal ass whoopin' she'll receive. |
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Guess that makes me a freakin' terrorist, right??? Whatever... [rolleyes]
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My supervisor accompanied me to our CCW class last year. Afterward he left his target that he used during qual behind. I snatched it up and took it home.
The next day when he came to work it was hanging outside his cubicle with, [b]"So, you have a problem with my decisions? Step inside and we'll discuss it"[/b], written in the corner. Everybody had a laugh and it hung there for at least a month. |
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