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Posted: 6/4/2003 9:29:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/10/2003 4:38:37 AM EDT by Cincinnatus]
...where they dug out my herniated disc. Microdiscectomy. Ouch. Anyone have this done? What was your recovery time? I can't stand being infirmed, and having to take pain pills.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 9:35:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/4/2003 9:35:17 AM EDT by Emoto]
Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: ...where they dug out my herniated disc. Microdiscectomy. Ouch.
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Hope your recovery is a speedy one!
I can't stand being infimred, and having to take pain pills.
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Look at the bright side: under the influence of pain pills the TV sitcoms will actually make you laugh... [:D]
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 9:44:01 AM EDT
I wish. I can't stand TV. If I take enough of these pills (Vicodan) to kill the pain, I fall asleep. Hurts more than anything I've ever felt.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 10:09:08 AM EDT
Be REALLY carefull using Vicodan, it is one of the most addictive drugs out there. I just did a report on Vicodan in my high school (I'm 15) health class. Not trying to scare you, but just letting you know. If you find that you have to take more and more pills to get the same pain killing effect, STOP USING THEM. Your body is building up a tolerance to the drug, and it is a possibility that you could become dependint on it. Hope you heal fast!!
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 10:12:27 AM EDT
Well, when the prescription runs out, I'm done. But it's only been 24 hours since I was cut.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 10:27:39 AM EDT
Cinnci, Take the pills, take all of them, take them religiously on schedule. If these do not work, ask for different ones that are stronger. Keep pestering your Dr. until they adequately manage your pain. Remember, pain is a self defense mechanism, useful in learning not to repeat damaging activity. Your surgery was the damaging activity (at least to the surrounding tissue) and since you already know of the surgery (because you were there) the pain you are feeling is superfluous and should not be tolerated. There are several studies that indicate that exposure to long term intense pain causes significant mental changes and can irreparably alter your personality. Take the pills, take all of the pills, take them religiously on schedule and if the pills do not work, ask the Dr for more powerful pills. Realize that you are not weak or somehow lacking by taking pain meds. YOU HAD BACK SURGERY!!
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 10:40:42 AM EDT
Don't worry, I'm taking them. After the intitial Morphine I got in the hospital wore off, I held off the meds, to see what I was in for (just curious). Well, it hurt. I'd rather take a pill or two, than cry like a baby. I'm taking the pills. [:D]
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Link Posted: 6/4/2003 10:55:48 AM EDT
Good Luck on a Speedy Recovery! MM419
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 11:04:34 AM EDT
Originally Posted By EdAvilaSr: Cinci Don't wait to take the pills when the pain is unbeareable.Take them when it begins,otherwise they won't work as well.
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I learned that lesson the first night. The pain woke me up at 0300. I took the pills, and then an extra. I finally went down at 0530. I'm setting the alarm.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 11:07:16 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 11:17:55 AM EDT
Ed, I busted out a response immediately, but did not hear from you. Maybe you did not get it, sorry. See my posts regarding SRB exhaust and Chemical Weapons exposure. (I am still learning how to paste a link to a post). Cinnci, sorry for the hijack, but Ed's the bossman.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 11:52:12 AM EDT
GOOD LUCK... Take the meds.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 12:00:09 PM EDT
Feel better soon and hope you have a speedy recovery..... Cosmos
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 12:10:08 PM EDT
It might help pass the time to get some watercolors and paint meadow/forest/stream scenes. I think that would have a calming effect and take your mind off of things. Not like some guy that was posting huge amoeba porn here a while back. I can't imagine what his problems were. Anyway, give that that a try.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 12:14:19 PM EDT
"amoeba porn"? I can't imagine what that would look like. [:)] Actually, I am currently working on a series of landscapes, though not watercolors. Unfortunately, my current condition won't allow me to work on them. They're quite large. Maybe by Monday.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 12:16:45 PM EDT
NOOOOOO yard work that landscaping stuff is bad on your back....... oh you mean painting, never mind.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 12:32:02 PM EDT
Anytime you leave the hospital your ahead of the game, good for you, heal well my friend.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 12:34:15 PM EDT
To be honest, I probably should have stayed the night. But the food.... I'm not kidding. I took one look at the "boiled chicken" they were serving, and puked. Puked all over myself, too. So I left. [:)]
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 12:42:32 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: I wish. I can't stand TV. If I take enough of these pills (Vicodan) to kill the pain, I fall asleep. Hurts more than anything I've ever felt.
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It must be nice. Any type of pain medication makes me very sick. Even the crap that they promised wouldnt. Be a man like me and suffer through it. Really I wish I could have taken them.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 12:57:13 PM EDT
I also feel nauseous, when it's strong enough to kill the pain. That sucks. But I take 'em anyhow, because I need the muscles around the affected area to relax.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 12:59:53 PM EDT
I had a similar procedure in 1995. I hope yours turns out better than mine did, not that mine turned out BADLY. At least now I can walk... BTW, was it Navy medicine? Mine was......maybe that's the problem... Hope you're feeling better soon!
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 1:07:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/4/2003 1:09:22 PM EDT by Pat-fujimoto]
Cincinnatus, Microdiscetomy...that is a tough one. I had a procedure done to my L5-S1 disc called a PLDD(Percutaneous Laser Disc Decompression) They used a laser to burn out the middle of my disc, causing a vacuum and sucking the offending disc material back in. I was a good candidate for this procedure because my disc material did not bulge past any ligaments/tendons. The procedure lasted about 1 hour, 15 min. I was in terrible pain(right glute-right leg-right ankle) before the operation. After the drugs wore off, the nurse said if I felt ok to get up. I popped off the table, asked for my clothes & then had lunch 30 min with the doc(a close friend.) I have been about 98% pain free since. I hope your procedure will give you the same kind of relief. Of course, my heavy deadlift/squat days are over... -Pat added: I did not need any pain killers.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 1:10:09 PM EDT
I had a double discectomy, lamenectomy on 5/23/97. They removed two ruptured discs and replaced with titanium cages known as BAK cages and 7" of bridging. I was hospitalized for six days.The day after surgery I was walking around ward. The day after I got home I started walking around the block than two blocks, etc. Walk, walk, walk... I have taken approx. ten pain pills since 6/97 Everyone is different.I had pain.Yeah.But, the more active I became the less pain I had. Don't gain any weight.I can actually feel in my back every lb. I gain.Do aquatics to strengthen your back and legs without lifting weights. I was 225 at surgery date and am at about 220 right now. YMMV.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 1:54:58 PM EDT
It was a herniated disc. It was pushing hard up against the spinal cord. Caused numbness and pain. I didn't mind the pain, but the numbness was scary. So I got the MRI, and everything looked good to go. Alignment was good, and structurally all is sound. Just the disc. So the doc went in and cut away the protruding material. I SHOULD be fine. Being that there is no structural damage, or irregularities, I shpould be better than ever.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 2:06:19 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: To be honest, I probably should have stayed the night. But the food.... I'm not kidding. I took one look at the "boiled chicken" they were serving, and puked. Puked all over myself, too. So I left. [:)]
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That DOES sound like military medicine! Actually, it was probably the morphine. Eight weeks ago (today) I had surgery to put my knee back together again (broke the patella into three parts, needed 2 pins and 8" of wire) and they had me on a morphine pump. That is the most nauseaous I have EVER been--I was tossing it every time they gave me water!
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 2:07:19 PM EDT
get some glucosamine sulfate and chondroiton sulfate..preferebably liquid Ice at night Low impact excercise when you can Been there..got four bad ones motorcycle accident bout 18 yrs ago... Not a day without pain...some days better than others.. Prayers for a speedy complete recovery.. Swimming and Chriopractic helped me the most The wt thing is also very important
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 2:08:23 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Pat-fujimoto: Cincinnatus, Microdiscetomy...that is a tough one. I had a procedure done to my L5-S1 disc called a PLDD(Percutaneous Laser Disc Decompression) They used a laser to burn out the middle of my disc, causing a vacuum and sucking the offending disc material back in. I was a good candidate for this procedure because my disc material did not bulge past any ligaments/tendons. The procedure lasted about 1 hour, 15 min. I was in terrible pain(right glute-right leg-right ankle) before the operation. After the drugs wore off, the nurse said if I felt ok to get up. I popped off the table, asked for my clothes & then had lunch 30 min with the doc(a close friend.) I have been about 98% pain free since. I hope your procedure will give you the same kind of relief. Of course, my heavy deadlift/squat days are over... -Pat added: I did not need any pain killers.
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You lucky shit! Same disk, same injury! Wish they'd done that to ME!
Link Posted: 6/10/2003 4:43:16 AM EDT
One week later..... Within two days of the operation, I was walking around and driving (although heavily medicated). Bench press workout, yesterday. No problem (except that my max was about 15 lbs less than two weeks ago) I've stopped the meds. I feel better than I have for months. I'm going to try running again, next week. If you have a herniated disc, and the doctor suggests a discectomy, do it.
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 5:49:59 AM EDT
Nice to see you up and about. Dont get too cocky with the rehab. Is bench press rehab or would that be straight to working our again ?
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 5:53:41 AM EDT
[:)] Straight to working out again. Guilty as charged. I cleared it with my doc, first.
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 6:26:06 AM EDT
I can't believe major back surgery is an out patient procedure nowadays. I didn't catch this one first time around. Cinci? Aren't you back in the Corps? Why did they take you back, with a bad back? Did a military DR. preside?? What do they do? Remove protruding disc material? Doesn't that make the disc too thin? They put anything in there to replace it? I can't believe some of the stuff we do nowadays. I remember when almost any back surgery meant very bad news. 2nd wife had a fusion on her lower back. I guess they don't even do that anymore.... Glad to see you're progressing well.
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 6:36:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/11/2003 6:50:45 AM EDT by Cincinnatus]
Originally Posted By liberty86: I can't believe major back surgery is an out patient procedure nowadays. I didn't catch this one first time around. Cinci? Aren't you back in the Corps? Why did they take you back, with a bad back? Did a military DR. preside??
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Let's just say that the Doc who did my physical to get back in was less than thorough. I didn't think the back would be a problem, but then it started to bug me. I went to a civilian doctor. I GOOD one. I feel better now than I have in months. What the Corps don't know won't hurt. Nothing about my situation will keep me from training or deploying. I'm fixed.
What do they do? Remove protruding disc material? Doesn't that make the disc too thin? They put anything in there to replace it?
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"Herniated Disc" sounds worse than Bulged or slipped disc. But I've come to realize it is not. The disc is like a tire, with a gel in the center. When it herniates, the gel squeezes out through a hole in the "tire", and often presses up against the spinal cord, causing numbness and pain. The Microdiscectomy is a fairly non-invasive procedure, where they go in through a small hole, an cut away the protruding gel of the disc. The hole then heals itself in 90% of the cases. It isn't a matter of the disc being out of sorts, or cut.
I can't believe some of the stuff we do nowadays. I remember when almost any back surgery meant very bad news. 2nd wife had a fusion on her lower back. I guess they don't even do that anymore.... Glad to see you're progressing well.
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Thank you. My friends can't believe that I went back in to the Marines with an injury that a dissatisfied Marine might have used as an excuse to "get out". I fixed it, and I'm ready. Had I deployed in March, as I expected, I would have been DAMNED uncomfortable, but I would have dealt with it.
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 7:14:59 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: "Herniated Disc" sounds worse than Bulged or slipped disc. But I've come to realize it is not. The disc is like a tire, with a gel in the center. When it herniates, the gel squeezes out through a hole in the "tire", and often presses up against the spinal cord, causing numbness and pain. The Microdiscectomy is a fairly non-invasive procedure, where they go in through a small hole, an cut away the protruding gel of the disc. The hole then heals itself in 90% of the cases. It isn't a matter of the disc being out of sorts, or cut.
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GOOD explanation, thanks..... Sounds like SOMBODY, wanted back in the Corps... BAD!!![snoopy]
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 7:26:41 AM EDT
Yep.
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