I read one of the news articles posted on the home page here about the former NJ police officer being prosecuted for having an illegal 'assault weapon' (bullshit term) and it was an M1 carbine.  WTF is up with that????  Even the bullshit Federal law does not include that.

The moronic author of the article called it an M1 carbine assault rifle.  What an idiot!  If it was an M2, it would be an assault rifle, but an M1??????????  Fucking idiots.

I am beginning to believe that NJ is worse than Kali.  Isn't an M1 carbine still legal in Kali?

Yeah. An M1 is an assault weapon according to NJ law.

2C:39-1 w.   "Assault firearm" means:

   (1)  The following firearms:

     Algimec AGM1 type
     Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder such as the "Street Sweeper" or "Striker 12"
     Armalite AR-180 type
     Australian Automatic Arms SAR
     Avtomat Kalashnikov type semi-automatic firearms
     Beretta AR-70 and BM59 semi-automatic firearms
     Bushmaster Assault Rifle
     Calico M-900 Assault carbine and M-900
     CETME G3
     Chartered Industries of Singapore SR-88 type
     Colt AR-15 and CAR-15 series
     Daewoo K-1, K-2, Max 1 and Max 2, AR 100 types
     Demro TAC-1 carbine type
     Encom MP-9 and MP-45 carbine types
     FAMAS MAS223 types
     FN-FAL, FN-LAR, or FN-FNC type semi-automatic firearms
     Franchi SPAS 12 and LAW 12 shotguns
     G3SA type
     Galil type      Heckler and Koch HK91, HK93, HK94, MP5, PSG-1
     Intratec TEC 9 and 22 semi-automatic firearms
     [b]M1 carbine type [/b]
     M14S type
     MAC 10, MAC 11, MAC 11-9mm carbine type firearms
     PJK M-68 carbine type
     Plainfield Machine Company Carbine
     Ruger K-Mini-14/5F and Mini-14/5RF
     SIG AMT, SIG 550SP, SIG 551SP, SIG PE-57 types
     SKS with detachable magazine type
     Spectre Auto carbine type
     Springfield Armory BM59 and SAR-48 type
     Sterling MK-6, MK-7 and SAR types
     Steyr A.U.G. semi-automatic firearms
     USAS 12 semi-automatic type shotgun
     Uzi type semi-automatic firearms
     Valmet M62, M71S, M76, or M78 type semi-automatic firearms
     Weaver Arm Nighthawk.

what a bunch of crock.

M-1 Carbine [b]w/ Folding Stock[/b] is the ususal reason for being on the list.

At least in CA

Well if the carbine is an assault rifle in NJ, how would they classsify a M1 enforcer? Pistol or rifle.

Another reason NOT to live in New Jermany.

Here's how bad NJ is - I live in MA and we are the land of the free by comparison!!

[BD]

Hmmmm. I guess Olympic Arms AR's are legal, then... [whacko]

It's true. After Kalifornia drops into the ocean, we'll need to see if there's any way to sever No Joyzee from the Union!

The law specifically reads "Bushmaster Assault Rifle". So this means that all semi-automatic Bushmasters and especially post-ban Bushmasters are legal?

[whacko]

Yes, they are. I lived in NJ, and bought my post-ban Bushy there in 95.

Go figure. [whacko]

Wow, my grandfather, who lives in NJ was thinking of getting an M1 Carbine as his next gun, does that mean he can't get it? Or is NJ doing the pre/post ban thing?

Thanks to the 'nearly identical' clauses, it basically comes down to this....if the firearm has Colt AR-15 or CAR-15 stamped on the receiver, es ist verboten. Which is why you can still get 'AR-15's' like the Bushy or Armalites...



I can't remember the exact details, but there is a weapon that is specifically named 'Bushmaster Assault Rifle'. That's what they refer to in the law....it's one of those nice little peculiarities. Bushy semi-autos aren't covered, because they are labeled XM-15, and are not considered 'identical' to the Colt AR-15 or CAR-15.



NJ does the pre-post ban thing differently. I can't remember the statute off the top of my head, but as I recall it works as follows:

1. Anything that is classified as an assault weapon is banned, unless the owner can show proof that the weapon was legally owned prior to the law taking effect.
2. Sales of such assault weapons are generally prohibited. A special exemption can be obtained, but it requires going before a judge and convinving them that there is a compelling reason, [b]for the good of the community[/b], for you to be able to obtain such a weapon.

Off the top of my head, I'd say your grandfather is SOL, unfortunately.

NOPE, NJ banned them all back in 1989, thanks to Jim Florio. Grandpa wont be able to buy one while he lives in NJ.

edited to say: Even if the ban sunsets, NJ will keep their ban.

I am SO glad I live in Californistan instead of New Jersistan.

I'm going to go hug my M1 Carbine now.

[peep]

I think this statement you made is 100 percent off the wall.
The NJ laws are fucked up, but no where as fucked as Mass. laws.

The only rilfes that are banned are the ones on that list, If I have a EA J16 lower it is of course pre-ban as all Essential Arms rifles were made prior to the ban, it is legal here, the upper with a bayonet and flash hider is not legal.

I am in no way saying NJ gun laws are right ,They Suck with a capital [b]S[/b] but not as bad as Mass.

My wife just last year went down and asked for and recieved ten hand gun permits all at once and used everyone of them, now some of you don't need any hand gun permits to buy a hand gun but here in NJ we have always had to get hand gun permits to purchase as long as I can remember anyway.

Now some of you can only buy one hand gun a month ,right?
we can buy 100 if we want, they have to grant the permits and as many as you want,it's in the law.

Mass laws link,
[url]http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws.asp?FormMode=Detail&R=MA[/url]








[b]In your own damned home they are dictating to you.[/b]

[b]this one's great[/b]

[b]I guess when they issued those "life time cards" they were just kidding,huh?[/b]

Here's New Jersey's to be fair,they both suck but I think Massachusetts swallows, LOL

[url]http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws.asp?FormMode=Detail&R=NJ[/url]

If the "assault ban" sunsets
will the states still keep their own restrictions?

Yes, they will keep them. Their ban has been in place since 1989.

...As long as they have a fixed stock.  No paratrooper models, no flash hider, and no M2 selective-fire.  Bayonet lug is allowed.

I can own a Mini-14 and any SAR series rifle, but no M1 Carbine. Go figure !!

I'm glad I'm here and not there.

The original version of the ban they've been kicking around in Illinois also would've banned them - detachable mag and a bayonet lug.  I think it's been amended to they'd be exempt.  

nope you can't own none of them, the mini14 is on the list so are a couple sar type rifles

However you CAN own a post-ban M60E3!!!
I have two friends who own bought and own them.

This is why I live in TX now.

Boy, it sucks to live in CA or NJ. I am not too far behind, but still way a head of were you guys are at. I would pack up and move that is for sure.