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Posted: 6/1/2003 8:40:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/1/2003 8:46:38 AM EDT by dave223]
Valkyries thread was interesting. Although they were definitely not "swinging", I am curious to see what everyone's opinion is about the "lifestyle".
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 8:54:29 AM EDT
On a rope over a river is cool, but I feel like a geek on a swingset.
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 8:58:11 AM EDT
I think it's pretty stupid to get married if you're not ready to settle down and act like an adult.
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 8:58:15 AM EDT
[img]http://users.bestweb.net/~rg/lynchings/Big%20Mary%20Lynching.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 9:00:58 AM EDT
Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice.
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 9:10:59 AM EDT
its pretty strange to me, why would a married couple want to do that?? i have seen the porno sites where the lady screws everyone while the husband films it. that is sick!!
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 9:14:25 AM EDT
Well I didn't stop thinking other women were sexy/attractive etc when I got married but I take my vows seriously. I'd never consent to let someone else screw my wife. That's just frunkin' nuts. To each their own, but people wonder WTF is wrong with our country.
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 9:30:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/1/2003 9:38:41 AM EDT by N_Viejo]
Originally Posted By PONY_DRIVER: Well I didn't stop thinking other women were sexy/attractive etc when I got married but I take my vows seriously.
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Well, Pony Driver, what if a couple modified their vows to allow for some action on the side? If you vow to be faithful, then be faithful, but if both people agree to forgo that part of the vows, then there's nothing wrong with it, IMO. -Nick Viejo.
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 9:38:06 AM EDT
i didnt vote. there was no option for.............its wrong, but you do what you think is best
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 9:38:58 AM EDT
Originally Posted By N_Viejo:
Originally Posted By PONY_DRIVER: Well I didn't stop thinking other women were sexy/attractive etc when I got married but I take my vows seriously.
Well, Pony Driver, what if a couple modified their vows to allow for some action on the side? If you vow to be faithful, then be faithful, but if both people agree to forgo that part of the vows, then there's nothing wrong with it, IMO. -Nick Viejo.
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Then why get married in the first place?
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 9:52:46 AM EDT
No real man whores his wife out.
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 10:16:38 AM EDT
Interesting......of all of the people who actually comment, it is pretty 100% against. But the poll says almost 80% don't care
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 10:34:00 AM EDT
IDGAF
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 10:37:07 AM EDT
You need another option: [b]* It's wrong but I don't care what consensual adults do.[/b] Swingers = consensual adulterers Why the fuck get married if you're gonna fuck other people? Is the marriage just a business deal? A friendship pact? Is the spouse just a roommate? WHY THE FUCK CALL IT A "MARRIAGE"??? Now if there's kids involved - the "husband and wife" are setting up a situation to REALLY screw up a kid's psyche for life if they ever find out.
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 11:02:03 AM EDT
Well I voted for not carring what consenting adults do, but I think it's wrong. My wife and I exchanged vows in a church before GOD, not at the Justice of the Peace. Just my personal beliefs, and yes I'm old fashioned but no one's gonna fuck my wife except me. Same goes for me, if they're not here they ain't hidin' my salami. IMNSHO a "marriage" is more than a ceremony and livign together. It's a commitment. If they modified their vows to include screwing the whole neighborhood at the same time I could care less, it's their "arrangement".
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Link Posted: 6/1/2003 12:08:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/1/2003 12:16:32 PM EDT by TomJefferson]
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 12:16:42 PM EDT
I've never been able to understand why people who want to play like they're single get married. It's a commitment, not "a piece of paper." Besides, straying from monogamy is like playing moron roulette with five chambers loaded. There are so many STDs that scare the crap out of penecillin, it's just not worth the risk. Think with your brain, not your hormones.
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 12:32:58 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 12:52:09 PM EDT
What in the bloody f*ckin hell did that elephant do?
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 12:53:18 PM EDT
A girl I was dating asked me how I felt about "sleeping" with two girls. I told her I wouldn't have a problem doing it with a girl I didn't plan on marrying.
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 1:17:41 PM EDT
Originally Posted By PONY_DRIVER: no one's gonna fuck my wife except me.
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Let's hope she feels the same way. Since ultimately it's her decision to make, not yours.
IMNSHO a "marriage" is more than a ceremony and livign together. It's a commitment.
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Commitments come in many forms and exist and flourish regardless of the legalities involved. TT
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 1:40:14 PM EDT
Originally Posted By walttx: its pretty strange to me, why would a married couple want to do that?? i have seen the porno sites where the lady screws everyone while the husband films it. that is sick!!
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Is it any sicker than going to a site to look at it? ;)
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 1:40:35 PM EDT
oooooooooooh, i've got to jump in on this one. i think TT, what pony_driver meant, if he's anything like me, is that nobody is going to fuck his wife except him......... .........without staring down the business end of a .45 you hit on my wife, you get verbally made aware of the situation you touch my wife in any way such as in valk's post, and you'll get your ass handed to you you stick you pecker in my wife, and you damn well may get shot pretty straightforward, if she wants to screw somebody except me, she can, but she damn well better divorce me first
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 2:03:50 PM EDT
Whatever adults want to do.. I mean... maybe it enhances their relationship? I don't really have any problem with it, but I do know that your marriage is going to really suck if your third little play buddy introduces something like herpes or aids to your marriage.
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 4:33:54 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/1/2003 4:55:34 PM EDT
If you truly loved your wife, you would let her screw anyone she wanted to. Just kidding, I could never share my wife with another man.
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 5:13:09 PM EDT
I voted it's wrong, because that's my answer to the question. I think it's wrong. additionally, I don't think there should be any laws about it being either right or wrong. it's our duty to take care of morality without the law, but within the limits of the law.
Link Posted: 6/2/2003 1:16:16 PM EDT
What a confusing poll. I do lots of wrong things that are fun. Although swinging, while I'm sure would be "fun"-- fits more squarely in the "wrong" category
Link Posted: 6/2/2003 1:35:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/2/2003 1:36:28 PM EDT by chuckhammer]
I think this is a personal choice for couples with no kids. It shouldn't concern anyone outside of the two of them and whoever they're swinging with. If they have kids, swinging should be considered illegal as a form of child neglect. Similar to not feeding your kids a decent diet and them getting sick as a result. It would be difficult to enforce, though. If the dumbass wants to jump off a bridge, society's probably better off without her. Nobody's gonna bang my wife, either. Not without some medieval consequences. Unless it was rape, those consequences would also include her untrustworthy ass since we didn't agree to any such nonsense.
Link Posted: 6/2/2003 1:36:57 PM EDT
I have no idea why anyone would want to do the Swinging thing, but if it is consenting adults, it's not me to choose for them. They alone have to deal with the after effects.
Link Posted: 6/2/2003 1:41:49 PM EDT
I don't care what pepole do in their free time. I think that swinging is wrong however.
Link Posted: 6/2/2003 1:45:49 PM EDT
Originally Posted By PONY_DRIVER: Well I didn't stop thinking other women were sexy/attractive etc when I got married but I take my vows seriously. I'd never consent to let someone else screw my wife. That's just frunkin' nuts. To each their own, but people wonder WTF is wrong with our country.
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My thoughts exactly.
Link Posted: 6/2/2003 1:49:29 PM EDT
Who is the member with the really hot and petite light blonde holding the Ar-15????? [:D]
Link Posted: 6/2/2003 1:59:57 PM EDT
lets be honest. guys only want to swing because they want to bang another chick instead of their fatass wife. they dont REALLY want someone nailing fatty mcgee, but they want the extra poon. me, i look really gay on the tire swing witht he big goofy grin and all...
Link Posted: 6/2/2003 5:28:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/2/2003 5:30:02 PM EDT by bobbyjack]
Right or wrong for you it is up to you to decide,bet if the numbers came out swingers probably have a lower divorce rate that the monogamous marriages today! Bob [:D]
Link Posted: 6/2/2003 7:48:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/2/2003 7:49:03 PM EDT by ckapsl]
Originally Posted By TitaniumT: Commitments come in many forms and exist and flourish regardless of the legalities involved. TT
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Yup. To each their own - as long as both parties know and consent.
Link Posted: 6/3/2003 3:52:02 AM EDT
I don't think it should be illegal, but i do believe it's wrong. The problem with swinging is that it destablizes marriages. Marriage is hard enough for two people without comlicating things by adding someone else. Swinging is almost always the death knell of a relationship. Some people manage to stick with it for ahwile, the lifestyle swingers, but even then it often ends badly. The bottom line is that if you value your marriage, you should avoid involving anybody else in it. This goes double if you have kids. On the other hand, if your marriage is headed for the toilet, or you just plain don't care, have at it.
Link Posted: 6/3/2003 4:56:18 AM EDT
Originally Posted By TitaniumT:
Originally Posted By PONY_DRIVER: no one's gonna fuck my wife except me.
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Let's hope she feels the same way. Since ultimately it's her decision to make, not yours.
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Better believe it. No man should feel he has a right to be secure in a woman's faithfulness! Heaven forbid he believe that being married means his wife isn't allowed to fuck anyone else. Retaining the "right" to fuck around on your husband is much more preferable than allowing him to believe that she is not allowed to FUCK SOMEONE ELSE! In marriage, there are no true individual decisions. Are you for real? You sound like you are stumping for a woman's right to choose to cheat. Wrong wrong wrong.
IMNSHO a "marriage" is more than a ceremony and livign together. It's a commitment.
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Commitments come in many forms and exist and flourish regardless of the legalities involved. TT
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Of course. Marriage can many times just be a piece of paper, a convenient way of enumerating the other obligations involved besides that pesky faithfulness thing. Such as financial committments, etc. I hope you aren't missing the sarcasm here.
Link Posted: 6/3/2003 4:58:05 AM EDT
I don't care about it one way or the other. The confusion seems to be about the fact that there is a difference between love and sex. Swingers make that distinction and draw a clear line. Non-swingers don't.
Link Posted: 6/3/2003 4:59:34 AM EDT
Originally Posted By TexRdnec: oooooooooooh, i've got to jump in on this one. i think TT, what pony_driver meant, if he's anything like me, is that nobody is going to fuck his wife except him......... .........without staring down the business end of a .45 you hit on my wife, you get verbally made aware of the situation you touch my wife in any way such as in valk's post, and you'll get your ass handed to you you stick you pecker in my wife, and you damn well may get shot pretty straightforward, if she wants to screw somebody except me, she can, but she damn well better divorce me first
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If it happens you won't get a choice. Perhaps that is what TT was trying to point out? I know from first hand experience. Loser chicks are like monkeys....they always have to have ahold of the next branch before they let go of the first. And when they cheat, they cross the threshold of "loser".
Link Posted: 6/3/2003 5:07:37 AM EDT
Wow I am a post count whore...... I have a good friend that is into swinging and has been for a long time, but with a twist. His wife (hottie) is bi, so when they bring in another person, it's always another hot chick. His wife is allowed to bring other chicks into bed, either with him or just the two girls. I feel going outside the marriage is wrong, but in this case it's mainly to satisfy her lesbian urges. The whole gay thing I have no idea if it makes sense, I am against that too. But they are really cool people. They have been married a few years and are still crazy about each other.
Link Posted: 6/3/2003 5:15:35 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/3/2003 9:31:33 AM EDT
Originally Posted By TheKill: Wow I am a post count whore...... I have a good friend that is into swinging and has been for a long time, but with a twist. His wife (hottie) is bi, so when they bring in another person, it's always another hot chick. His wife is allowed to bring other chicks into bed, either with him or just the two girls. I feel going outside the marriage is wrong, but in this case it's mainly to satisfy her lesbian urges. The whole gay thing I have no idea if it makes sense, I am against that too. But they are really cool people. They have been married a few years and are still crazy about each other.
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see, there is mt theory in action! c'mon any guy would bang two chicks if their wife allowed!!! ok, maybe not everyone, but most!!!
Link Posted: 6/3/2003 9:32:42 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Emoto: I don't care about it one way or the other. The confusion seems to be about the fact that there is a difference between love and sex. Swingers make that distinction and draw a clear line. Non-swingers don't.
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im sorry... there is a difference between love and sex? really?
Link Posted: 6/3/2003 2:44:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/3/2003 3:04:48 PM EDT by IYAOYAS467]
Guys I needed this thread. Just found out that my girlfriend has been fucking a married couple. I have met them several times and thought that they were totally normal folks with kids and the works. My best friend saw the three of them mugging down at a local watering hole, and a friend of my girlfriend felt it necessary to tell me that she (my girl) had been fucking them for quite awhile. I thought that this relationship might go somewhere, so it is a little dissapointing but I'll get over it. At this point, I must say that the whole swinger thing is pretty trashy. If I were married, there is no way I could cheat on my wife much less give her permission to sleep with other men. FUCKING SCUMBAGS......... Never does cease to amaze me how many true WHORES there are in the world. Edited to add: I did dump the bitch, but it still makes me feel shitty.
Link Posted: 6/3/2003 3:01:31 PM EDT
Originally Posted By IYAOYAS467: Guys I needed this thread. Just found out that my girlfriend has been fucking a married couple. I have met them several times and thought that they were totally normal folks with kids and the works. My best friend saw the three of them mugging down at a local watering hole, and a friend of my girlfriend felt it necessary to tell me that she (my girl) had been fucking them for quite awhile. I thought that this relationship might go somewhere, so it is a little dissapointing but I'll get over it. At this point, I must say that the whole swinger thing is pretty trashy. If I were married, there is no way I could cheat on my wife much less give her permission to sleep with other men. FUCKING SCUMBAGS......... Never does cease to amaze me how many true WHORES there are in the world.
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just found out that your EX-girlfriend.....
Link Posted: 6/3/2003 3:49:39 PM EDT
i was going to say something, but on reflection i'd better not. sorry to hear about the bitch josh, but best you find out sooner than later. forget the slut whore cunt bag and go to gunstock with us.........................
Link Posted: 6/3/2003 4:05:06 PM EDT
Originally Posted By TexRdnec: i was going to say something, but on reflection i'd better not. sorry to hear about the bitch josh, but best you find out sooner than later. forget the slut whore cunt bag and go to gunstock with us.........................
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That sounds like a plan. When is this Gunstock?
Link Posted: 6/3/2003 4:48:06 PM EDT
It's between them. I like the "NOBODY'S gonna fuck my wife!" Answers. What if she brought home another chick? Two for you. How about the Bi wife situation? Would you take your wife to a titty bar if she asked? Do you go without her? Can she go to see men strip? Would you go with her? What if she wanted to go to see male strippers but they were gay? Would you go with her? Lots to consider. I don't think there is anything wrong with the above situations as long as both consent.
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