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Posted: 5/30/2003 10:10:15 AM EDT

just something to become a good shot at 200-400 yards? I was thinking a bolt 223 or maybe a 308 just because it has more power.

how about a garand would that get me 1-2" groups with good ammo?

any other ideas?

Posted: 5/30/2003 10:22:15 AM EDT

[#1]

Savage 10fp is a very accurate rifle for a very good price. (paid $310.00)+scope.

I get .5 inch groups (100yds) consistantly with 168grAMAX reloads (.308).

Savage is pretty well known for making accurate rifles at good prices.

Posted: 5/30/2003 10:22:51 AM EDT

[#2]

Quoted:
Savage 10fp is a very accurate rifle for a very good price. (paid $310.00)+scope.

I get .5 inch groups (100yds) consistantly with 168grAMAX reloads (.308).

Savage is pretty well known for making accurate rifles at good prices.

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Agreed.

Posted: 5/30/2003 10:29:38 AM EDT

[#3]

Make that 3. Plus, their new "Accu-trigger" looks like a good thing.

Posted: 5/30/2003 10:37:29 AM EDT

[#4]

I'll vote for the Savage too but if you're looking to get into a semi, then check out the Saiga 308. I've seen them for close to $300 for the rifle version with wood stock. They only take 8-10rd mags but it beats the Savage for ammo capicity. What price range are you looking at?

Posted: 5/30/2003 10:40:18 AM EDT

[#5]

You can't beat the savage 10FP with their new Accu-trigger.

Posted: 5/30/2003 10:42:27 AM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Savage 10fp is a very accurate rifle for a very good price. (paid $310.00)+scope.

I get .5 inch groups (100yds) consistantly with 168grAMAX reloads (.308).

Savage is pretty well known for making accurate rifles at good prices.

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Agreed.

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WOW, and to think some guys spend 3000.00 for a Macmillan. they must be suckers, right?

Posted: 5/30/2003 10:46:38 AM EDT

[#7]

I was going to say the Savage also, what is the "accu-trigger"? I haven't seen one, most gun shops don't carry Savage around here.

Really almost all modern bolt action rifles shoot pretty damn good, look at a regular old Remington 700 in 308 or get one in one of those new short magnums maybe. I've heard Howa makes great inexpensive bolt guns. There are TONS of old WWII bolt guns around for next to nothing.

Posted: 5/30/2003 10:56:08 AM EDT

[#8]

Aimless,

Check out the June 2003 issue of Guns & Ammo, page 38.

It's a trigger system adjustable for 1½# - 6# that is suppose to be safe and idiot-proof, even at the lowest settings.

Posted: 5/30/2003 11:00:26 AM EDT

[#9]

Oh [:I] You know I never buy Guns and Ammo because I think they smooch up to the advertisers too much, but I broke down and bought that one because I had to wait somewhere for a few hours. Guess I didn't read that article, thanks for the tip.

Posted: 5/30/2003 11:23:27 AM EDT

[#10]

savage

Posted: 5/30/2003 11:56:18 AM EDT

[#11]

Ditto on the savage....You will not be disappointed. My brother is a LEO in S FL at the range and the SWAT snipers were commenting on his gun and its accuracy. We both have the 20 inch 10FP .308....very handy rifle.

Posted: 5/30/2003 12:04:14 PM EDT

[#12]

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WOW, and to think some guys spend 3000.00 for a Macmillan. they must be suckers, right?

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It's their $$$ and they can spend it how they want to but how can anyone disparage a rifle company like Savage that makes a quality product, shoots like a house of fire and costs less than most competitor's products.

Savage makes a hell of a rifle for the cash.

Posted: 5/30/2003 12:18:56 PM EDT

[#13]

Another vote for the Savage.

Posted: 5/30/2003 12:25:07 PM EDT

[#14]

Have you thought about going the surplus/C&R route? The Finnish M39s and Swiss K31s are very well known for both accuracy, reliability and ruggedness. K31s are going right at $100.00 and M39s are less than $200.00
Other options would be Swedish mausers and of course 1903/1903A3s but those are a bit pricier.

Posted: 5/30/2003 12:27:02 PM EDT

[#15]

wow I had no idea you could get a new gun that is that accurate for 300 thats great.

how good of a scope would I need?

also I am into older military stuff so what type of military bolt gun should I look at?

would the accuracy match that of the savage?

thanks guys

Posted: 5/30/2003 12:30:46 PM EDT

[#16]

spend as much on the scope as you spend on the rifle. so if you buy a $300.00 rifle get a $300.00 scope. a Leupold VariX-II 3-9x40mm will do fine.

Posted: 5/30/2003 12:35:25 PM EDT

[#17]

I've got a savage in .243 that shoots very nicely...

Posted: 5/30/2003 12:41:06 PM EDT

[#18]

I also vote for the Savage 10FP.

I put a Tasco Super Sniper 20x (from SWFA)scope on mine along with a Choate stock.

Killer combo...

Posted: 5/30/2003 12:49:39 PM EDT

[#19]

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how good of a scope would I need?

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Budget choice: Weaver V16 with fine crosshairs and a target dot. Should be under $300.

Midrange: Nikon Monarch 6.5X20 with FCH. Should be under $400

High End: No fucking clue.[:P]

Posted: 5/30/2003 12:51:58 PM EDT

[#20]

Ditto 308wood, good guideline

I have a 6-24X42 tasco mildot varmint scope. I like the scope but haven't put it thorough anything serious like shooting a square or testing for POI change at different magnifications.

If I would have had the money I would have got a real nice scope (Leupold). My advice, get the BEST scope you can afford (or you feel is worth your useage level).

Military type rifles will probably shoot military surplus ammo better than a target/varmint/tactical rifle.

Target rifles are designed to shoot the heavier (more expensive) bullets, and they do it very well.

Posted: 5/30/2003 12:59:58 PM EDT

[#21]

On the low end I have a Bushnell Elite 10x fixed power scope with target knobs and mil-dots that's a fun scope for under $ 200 from SWFA. Maybe not what a professional sniper would use, but for shooting at the range and fiddling around with mil-dots it's fun. Even took it out hunting this past year and it was fine (though obviously too high powered for most hunting)

Posted: 5/30/2003 1:07:01 PM EDT

[#22]

My buddy just picked up a Mosin-Nagant m44 from Big 5 sporting goods here in Seattle for [b]$59.00[/b] you cannot beat that price at all. He picked up 440 round of Bulgarian surplus 7.62 x 54 for [b]$45.00[/b] total investment [b][red]$104.00[/red][/b]. Sounds like a deal to me.

Posted: 5/30/2003 1:44:26 PM EDT

[#23]

I've got a Savage 110FLP in a Tech2000 stock(since I shoot rifle lefty), built up by Walt Culley of Technicarbon Dynamics, and who now works with our very own Kurt Wala (I am glad to say that I introduced them to each other). He puts together some nice packages with excellent heavy stocks. I LOVE MINE!

Posted: 5/30/2003 5:41:45 PM EDT

[#24]

I have a Remington .223 ADL.
One minute groups are the norm for me. Half minute groups have happened from time to time. This is without ANY modifications to the firearm with the sole exception of adjusting the trigger to a much lighter pull.

Posted: 5/30/2003 5:57:10 PM EDT

[#25]

SAVAGE

Posted: 5/30/2003 6:00:19 PM EDT

[#26]

The (now retired) instructor of the OHP counter-sniper course used to come to class with a WWII Enfield .303 mounted with a good scope using match grade ammo and beat the pants off of most of the rest of the students who often showed up with anything from Remington Varmint rifles all the way up to PSG1's, just to show that it ain't the dog in the fight as much as it's the fight in the dog.

Posted: 6/1/2003 7:08:23 PM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:
Have you thought about going the surplus/C&R route? The Finnish M39s and Swiss K31s are very well known for both accuracy, reliability and ruggedness. K31s are going right at $100.00 and M39s are less than $200.00
Other options would be Swedish mausers and of course 1903/1903A3s but those are a bit pricier.

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K31's and Swede Mausers are without a doubt fine rifles, but their ammo! Ay yi yi! 7.5mm Swiss is $.50 each. You think Wal Mart stocks 6.5mm?

Until we can convince the Swiss to offload all the bullets they have stashed under their mountains on us, I will admire K31's from afar.

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