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Posted: 5/28/2003 4:23:53 AM EDT
[b]See what all this PC bullfuckshit started?[/b] ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) - Experts in Islamic law are being called to testify in the lawsuit of a Muslim woman fighting a state order to take off her veil for her driver's license photo. Sultanna Freeman, 35, says Florida's insistence on photographing her face violates her religious rights. [url]http://my.netscape.com/corewidgets/news/story.psp?cat=51180&id=200305280735000150383[/url]
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[Last Edit: 5/28/2003 4:53:57 AM EDT by Jarhead_22]
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[Last Edit: 5/28/2003 4:43:32 AM EDT by photoman]
Originally Posted By Aimless: Didn't California recently allow a woman to wear a viel while getting her driver's license photo taken?
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key word- California- were talking Florida which is still recognizable as American soil. California is diputed territory, the Mexicans want it back. Wave I agree with you.
Link Posted: 5/28/2003 5:32:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/28/2003 5:33:22 AM EDT by chriss1069]
The key here is that driving in Fl is a PRIVALIDGE and NOT A RIGHT....who cares what those Islamic law experts say...if you do want to play by the rules then shut the hell up..the pic is mandated for a reason.....what if I did not want to take off my shoes before entering their Mosk because I did not beleive it was right??? There is always somebody, somewhere, who thinks they can claim discrimination....and ALWAYS a lawyer waiting to take up the case...welcome to America
Link Posted: 5/28/2003 6:09:35 AM EDT
I thought that Muslim women weren't supposed to be driving anyway??? D.
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Originally Posted By Irishfly: I thought that Muslim women weren't supposed to be driving anyway??? D.
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LOL I say fruck her.
Link Posted: 5/28/2003 6:30:46 AM EDT
Take off the veil for the picture or you don't drive! PERIOD! Also going to have to take off the veil for any officer who want's to confirm ID.
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Originally Posted By chriss1069: The key here is that driving in Fl is a PRIVALIDGE and NOT A RIGHT
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I was thinking the samething. I was in traffic school a few years back, and they said that driving is a priviledge granted by the state not a right, at least back then.
Link Posted: 5/28/2003 6:57:41 AM EDT
[bs] Passport photo? How did the chick get in the country? Or out of the country? Passport photos must be a clear image of your face. They will not accept less. Period. Neither should Florida. Fuck that!
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Take off the mask, or get out! [:D]
Link Posted: 5/28/2003 7:16:05 AM EDT
AND..... She's only [i]been[/i] a "Muslim" for [b]TWO STINKING YEARS !![/b]. Anyone in the Orlando,Fl. area that sees her should spit in her fucking face.
Link Posted: 5/29/2003 2:10:19 PM EDT
i was flipping through the TV channels and CourtTV had this woman on. Seems to me she just wants a few minutes of fame. Screw her! Take the bus, bitch!
Link Posted: 5/29/2003 2:46:03 PM EDT
I heard on the newZ that this creep was busted for using false ID's and other shit.
Link Posted: 5/29/2003 2:51:31 PM EDT
off or out. Better yet, just out
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[Last Edit: 5/29/2003 3:37:39 PM EDT by nightstalker]
I think this woman has a felony record. The state has compelling reasons for photo especially post 9-11. However they have cases in other states where they have allowed licenses without photos. Some states do not have photos on licenses at all IIRC. Kinda dopey that they let her have one in the first place and now are trying to cover their ass. Is it the sun? I'd give her a ticket for driving with a veil on as it restricts vision and make sure the license states it is not valid photo i.d. for other purposes than driving. [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1994676.stm[/url] Canada was going to allow a Sikh 12 year old to wear his ceremonial dagger to school but I think they eventually opted for a private school where there was no hassle.
Link Posted: 5/29/2003 3:16:23 PM EDT
the menonites around here don't have photos on their drivers licenses. just a dumb little sign that says "no photo". i have to turn them away when they want to buy a firearm. i tell them: i HAVE to have picture ID. they say: we don't have our pictures taken i say: then you can't buy a gun. they are pretty nice about it though. none have argued with me, just walked off. i think they buy their firearms at the local trade day. it is all private sales.
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She must either be REALLLLLLLY ugly or a guy. This happened when I was a PFC (E-3). I was eating at a mess hall where I suggested that a fellow soldier get himself a haircut. He was a she.[:X*] About a month later I was promoted to Specialist-Four (Spec-4); E-4. DAMN! [whacko] She was Homely!
Link Posted: 5/30/2003 1:56:39 AM EDT
she got pretty eyes, how bad could she be under that thing?
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[Last Edit: 5/30/2003 2:32:04 AM EDT by bri26064]
I was listening to one of the AM talkshows and a caller that had called in said that she is a CONVICTED FELON. I believe he said it was for bad checks or something to that effect. He said the information came from CourtTV. If this is the case, it shouldn't even be a question as to whether she has to have it or not. She needs to have it!!! I think every drivers license needs to have a picture.
Link Posted: 5/30/2003 2:02:47 AM EDT
If she wins, who here is going to wear a mask when the renew their DL?
Link Posted: 5/30/2003 2:43:50 AM EDT
I suspect his case is dead in the water,. from the lovely folks over at little green footballs: http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/lgf-artmail.php?article=6822 http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/sultaana1.html And from CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/05/28/license.veil.ap/index.html > Saudi Arabia: Women aren't allowed to drive > Iran: Women wear a traditional chador, which does not cover the face. > Egypt: Women do not cover their face in I.D. pictures > United Arab Emirates: Women do not cover their face in I.D. pictures > Oman: Women do not cover their face in I.D. pictures > Kuwait: Women do not cover their face in I.D. pictures > Qatar: Women do not cover their face in I.D. pictures > Bahrain: Women do not cover their face in I.D. pictures > Jordan: Women can drive if their faces are covered but do not cover their face in I.D. pictures Case closed, right? Its a privelege, for which you have to do certain things, getr a license, and get the ID photo, STF, etc. /Phil
Link Posted: 5/30/2003 2:51:37 AM EDT
FELON ! [whacko]
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This chick is yet another waste of breath
Link Posted: 5/30/2003 7:21:00 AM EDT
She is a convicted felon (child neglect/abuse)and guess what???...the state tried to submit her booking photo - sans viel - as eveidence, but it was rejected by the judge! The Islamic law expert even testified that there were instances that she could show her face....i.e. - doctor visits, pictures for passports and DL's, etc....bet the defense sunk under the table when they heard this guy sing!
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[img]http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/art2/sultaana1.jpg[/img] She's got a record. [url]http://64.4.20.250/cgi-bin/linkrd?_lang=EN&lah=59b2ccb9d06baef508e29e2922fe71cd&lat=1054393515&hm___action=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2ethesmokinggun%2ecom%2farch­ive%2fsultaana1%2ehtml[/url]
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