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"Our officers are under gunned," he said. "We don't have comparable weapons to deal with the potential destruction these weapons have."

The troopers coalition has many members who belong to the NRA, and who use guns for hunting or for sport shooting, Perry said.

"But you don't need an AK-47 to hunt deer," he said.

ONE. the hell they are undergunned. One of our local PD's uses mini30 as patrol carbines, the average drug dealer, street punk, gangbanger at least in my neck of da woods has never seen touched or fired an AK, AR, Galil, G3 the most i've ever see one have was an SKS with a fixed 10rd mag. They prefer small compact handguns and pistol gripped pump shotguns. How do I know, because I see it, and hear it from them. TWO. The 7.62X39 has ballistics just under a 30-30, and with it's short 16in barrel and a 5or10 round mag the AK makes a great sub 100yard heavy brush, drive gun for deer hunting, how do i know this because thats what I use MY AK for. [/quoDang!

You mean someone out there actually uses a Mini-30 for something besides a door stop?

n addition to working to renew the gun ban, Perry said the trooper's coalition has set its sights on preserving a federal program set to expire later this year that provides half the funding needed to purchase body armor for police. The goal is to extend the program through 2007.

Not all police officers have protective vests, he said.

There also is a need to provide updated gear considering the vests have a life span of five years and the older equipment is not so effective against newer weapons, Perry said. This latter point is another argument for renewing the assault weapons ban.

"The vests officers wear will not stop those rounds," he said.

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Why are so many elected officials and law enforcement officers either stupid or damned liars?

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Marvl, who elected those dopes? That's right "the people". Maybe you should talk to "the people".