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Posted: 5/26/2003 11:08:22 AM EDT
Did anyone see slick willy on c-span 2 the other night? It was a from that University of Arkansas ultra liberal class on "the clinton years". Willy was giving this lecture on his years as president. I didn't want to listen to his foul stench, but as the art of war states, "keep your enemy closer". I sat there in complete disbelief. Clinton was spouting off how great his work was and how he did this great thing and that great thing and how he wasn't smart enough to beat the Republicans in the elections. At least he has that last one right. He even took all the heat for everything Hitlery has ever done wrong. Oh, no, Hiltery can't do anything wrong, or against our rights or the American public in general. The more I sat and saw, the more I realised how pompus this guy is and how messed up the Democratic party is. He totally showed that his ego is as big as the White house. I almost puked when some of the class were kissing his ass, "oh, you were such a great president, if you could run for president again, I would vote for you!" [brick] The teacher even started to cry [baby] when it was all over, probably because she realised that the Clinton years are OVER!!! [banana] The only thing I took away from the whole aweful experience was that Clinton exposed how corrupt our government and political process has become. He even mentioned, in so many words, how if everything was fixed, it would wreck the politcal party set up we have. I could believe he actually admitted to that one. Did anyone else watch that ass on TV?
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 11:20:36 AM EDT
"The purpose of government is to rein in the rights of the people." [William Jefferson Clinton] (1946- ), 42nd US President Source: during an interview on MTV in 1993
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 11:28:56 AM EDT
No, but I've been listening to the Democrats talk about it for the past few days. They were very impressed and crowed about how smart he is, what a good speaker he is, how he has command over all the minutae of policy from health care to trade tariffs.....and how when they look at Bush they feel like crying about the moron who's in the Oval Office now. I have to admit, I dont like listening to Bush speak. His speech is stilted and doesn't flow well. He mispronounces words in an annoying way. He doesn't have a quick keen mind like Clinton's, and it really shows when there isn't a teleprompter in front of him. You can't deny that. But I dont approve or disapprove of presidents solely on their oratory and rhetoric. I judge presidents on what they get done. And for all Clinton's charisma and brilliance, his entire presidency was in service to short-term political points for him and his party. Not to the nation, its interests, its security. What was Clinton's vision for America? It was all this hazy BS about a bridge to the 21st century. What was his foreign policy to assure the US's status in the world? Who knows, because Clinton just reacted clumsily to whatever came across his desk. I mean, sit back and ask yourself, WTF did Clinton actually accomplish in his 8 years as president? His biggest score was welfare reform (which he co-opted from the GOP to the horror of liberals). He waged a pointless war on Serbia, in a country where we had no national interest, to stop a genocide that wasn't happening. Meanwhile, he totally ignored a REAL genocide in Rwanda in 1994. No national interest there, but stopping genocides is generally a nice thing to do. His work on the Oslo agreements was a complete waste of time. He never went after the terrorists in any serious manner. He pardoned some Puerto Rican terrorists, because he thought it would help Hillary get elected in NY. In short, Clinton's very very good at talking. No one can doubt that.
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 12:39:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/26/2003 12:44:40 PM EDT by Kihn]
Well... he passed that 94 Crime Bill and saved who knows how many countless lives from all those Assault Weapons that would be on the streets if he hadn't otherwise acted. And he prevented who knows how many deaths by making sure that anyone guilty of a misdomeanor for getting in a pushing contest or a brawl in a bar from owning a gun, cause they are obviously only one step away from being a crazed psychotic killer. And he was able to prevent a fringe Religious group from unleashing an Al-Qaeda like fury upon American soil with their wacko ideology and sent them to the depths of Hell along with all those little wacko kids destined for a life of depravity for their wacked out beliefs. Him and Reno changed the world for the better don't ya know?
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 1:25:00 PM EDT
you ring his bell........most of us want to clean his fucking clock.
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 1:28:57 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Trog777: "The purpose of government is to rein in the rights of the people." [William Jefferson Clinton] (1946- ), 42nd US President Source: during an interview on MTV in 1993
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Is this an accurate quote? If so, HOLY SH*T!
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 6:23:57 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Deliverator:
Originally Posted By Trog777: "The purpose of government is to rein in the rights of the people." [William Jefferson Clinton] (1946- ), 42nd US President Source: during an interview on MTV in 1993
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Is this an accurate quote? If so, HOLY SH*T!
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Here are some for you: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Crete/3450/clintonquotes.html "A lot of wonderful people love their country and hate the military." - - Bill Clinton, 1969 (Letter to the National Guard) http://quotes.telemanage.ca/quotes.nsf/QuotesByCatPerson!ReadForm&RestrictToCategory=Bill+Clinton We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans... http://bowbucks.tripod.com/politicalpage.htm "If the personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution inhibit the government's ability to govern the people, we should look to limit those guarantees." (Clinton, 8-12-1993) "Our main agenda is to have all guns banned. We must use whatever means possible. It doesn't matter if you have to distort the facts or even lie. Our task of creating a Socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed."--Sarah Brady (In a letter to Senator Howard Metzenbaum, The National Educator, January 1994, page 3)
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 6:33:29 PM EDT
Originally Posted By lippo: "Our main agenda is to have all guns banned. We must use whatever means possible. It doesn't matter if you have to distort the facts or even lie. Our task of creating a Socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed."--Sarah Brady (In a letter to Senator Howard Metzenbaum, The National Educator, January 1994, page 3)
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That can't be true, that is so over the top, I have a problem believing it.
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 7:01:17 PM EDT
Originally Posted By raven:
Originally Posted By lippo: "Our main agenda is to have all guns banned. We must use whatever means possible. It doesn't matter if you have to distort the facts or even lie. Our task of creating a Socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed."--Sarah Brady (In a letter to Senator Howard Metzenbaum, The National Educator, January 1994, page 3)
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That can't be true, that is so over the top, I have a problem believing it.
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WoW!! never read that one before, need to look it up. klinton is a two-faced bastard! (most politicos are though)
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 7:15:42 PM EDT
Clinton would have made a wonderful actor. As a politician, a statesman, and a leader he was an abysmal failure. Our economy is in dire straits today because of Clinton economic policies. Clinton had no clue when it came to foreign policy. He seemed to spend most of his time pursuing golf and illicit sex and grossly neglected the job of running the country. He violated the solemn oath of office that he swore to on more than one occasion. There just isn't anything good you can say about the man or his wife. During the years 1946 to 1990 the U.S. military was involved in 8 foreign campaigns. During Clinton's 8 years that number was 40, most of them half-hearted and without purpose. He made extragavant and pointless use of military intervention repeatedly, all the while paring down the military's resources and its preparedness to do its job. The man was, as G. Gordon Liddy put it, "a physical and moral coward." He will go down in history as this century's worst president, and possibly the worst of all time.
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 7:28:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/26/2003 7:30:50 PM EDT by openbolt45]
Originally Posted By Deliverator:
Originally Posted By Trog777: "The purpose of government is to rein in the rights of the people." [William Jefferson Clinton] (1946- ), 42nd US President Source: during an interview on MTV in 1993
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[size=5]I CONCUR!!!![/size=5]
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 8:00:35 PM EDT
I often wonder why people are so quick to give clinton credit for the economic circumstances during the 90's as if he had any thing to do with it. I believe its pretty common knowledge that the table for a Presidencey is set by the one before it and clinton might have stumbled into some of the most favorable set of circumstances in history. They always point out that his tax hike somehow blasted the entire economy into the atmosphere[rolleyes]. Yes it improved revenues into government cofers(as did the rising stock market),much of the government surpluses came from the so called peace dividend(down sizing the military. Anyhow,some of the things that had nothing to do with clinton were the collapse of the Soviet Union.Allowing the downsized military and a sorta calming in world tensions,and optimism about new cooperation in the world,probably giving a new optimism to world markets. The Gulf war produced an unprecidented cooperation and US presence in a region traditionally racked by chaos and uncertainty.Afterwards there was an optimism and relative oder to a region so vital to industralized economies.(the oil was secured). In the 90's there was an explosion in the acceptence of persoinal computers in the home and a parallel confidence of investors in the ability of technology to transform society.All this euphoria over tech lead to unprecedented levels of participation in the stock market. As we all know towards the mid/late 90's the brokers were lying to investors about stocks (to keep coporate banking /consulting contracts with the very same companies)keeping the bubble expanding. Clinton had absolutly nothing to do with any of this. Another point I've read about latly was how Bush1 had just finished paying for the bailout and restructuring of the S&L crises when clinton eased himself on in. Anyone who gives clinton credit for any of our economic sucecss(taklking heads)is a lier or just plain hasn't looked into the conditions around the world when he came in. Don't even get me started about what clinton left for poor GW........[pissed]
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