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Posted: 5/21/2003 6:07:13 PM EDT
I ship Tuesday morning to Missouri for BCT - Army Reserve. I'm in decent physical shape; i run for 25 minutes every other day, and have been doing a lot of reps of pushups, free-situps, and crunches for the past couple months, too. I'm up to about 60 chest-to-the-ground pushups without stopping. I realize i'm probably a little behind on the running, but I'm honestly not to worried about it, as i figure the first week or two most will be in similar shape. Memorized the rank structure (oh, how difficult...), the 3 general orders, and can easily do all the facing movements (dad taught me those when i was about 4), so that little stuff is out of the way. Rifle marksmanship doesn't worry me; i've shot probably 8 to 10 thousand rounds in competition and know how to zero a rifle, not cocky, just confident... for Cincinattus: yes, i'll bring a dozen phone cards and lots of change for the pay phones and junk food machines that don't exist. [;)] Anyone have any advice to share? I'd really like to hear it, no matter how unimportant you think it might be. Thanks, Nick
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 6:18:46 PM EDT
Don't go out and get puking drunk the night before you ship out.
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 6:18:56 PM EDT
Get ready for a few weeks of hell! Old FT Lost In The Woods.
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 6:20:03 PM EDT
Ears open, Mouth Shut. Be Motivated. Help your buddies. Aviator
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 6:20:53 PM EDT
No Advice, but good luck to you.
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 6:27:12 PM EDT
Ears open, mouth shut. Don't be eyeballing the area, move like you are on fire and yell [b]LOUD[/b].
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 6:28:24 PM EDT
Get some sleep and relax.
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 6:28:59 PM EDT
Pay attention, follow directions and give 100%
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 6:40:22 PM EDT
Show up wearing plain clothes, no jewerly, mabye a plain looking watch, no peircings, dont shave your head, but dont have a mullet. Just try to be the nameless face for 8 weeks (or however long) like Avaitor said, try to keep your mouth shut and don't volunteer for anything. Take only what you'll need, they'll search thru your stuff the first day and have you put anything unnessicary in a locked room for the rest of the time. Don't have a bruce lee fighiting book or big rubber dildo or anything. Take plenty of socks and underware, about 8 pair each, shampoo, toothbrush and toothpaste, shaving accesories (i recomend dispasoable), deoderant, body soap, and any other personal grooming items you can think of. Glasses if you wear them, they'll tell you not to wear contacts. Some stationary if you plan on writing home (stamps/envelopes/paper/pen). Some money, like $60 or so. You might want to stash a little pack of kleenex (the TP sucks) Just dont have anything in your bag that you won't need, they love finding all your goodies, and no candy or food. And take some soap on a rope [sex] haha, just kidding. Good luck, just remember they WILL yell at you, just lock up and wait till they're done, it's all part of the game.
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 6:42:47 PM EDT
Volunteer every chance you get.[;)] Sgtar15
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 6:47:36 PM EDT
Don't worry when it is time to get that shot in your left ball with the square needle. Ignore the screams of your fellow soldiers. Those guys are pussies and it really doesn't hurt that bad.
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 7:02:26 PM EDT
Originally Posted By wolfman97: Don't worry when it is time to get that shot in your left ball with the square needle. Ignore the screams of your fellow soldiers. Those guys are pussies and it really doesn't hurt that bad.
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LMAO. THanks. [B)] thank you.
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 7:14:04 PM EDT
I hope you like hot humid weather, because the State of Misory has it this time of year. Just try to enjoy yourself, and get along with the other recruits. They will have black flag days when the Heat index gets too high- so you won't die of heat stroke. When you are dealing with all the bullshit- just remember: You are part of the greatest fighting force the world has ever known. Good luck
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 9:31:51 PM EDT
Don't loose your earplugs, you'll probably need them when all the other idiots won't shutup at night. Don't fall asleep on fireguard ever, write letters or something. Also, do not EVER EVER EVER even look like you are tired or sleeping when on the FTX and pulling guard. Then again, I went through Infantry OSUT, which is different than BCT. Some guy at Benning just got done with BCT when me and friend went to get our finances straightened out. He said the 8 or 9 mile march they did at the end was really tough. He asked how long we had to march, and when we said 25 miles, I thought he was gonna faint. It's all mental dude. Just about anybody can make it if you want to. Just don't quit. Good luck, and yes, do bring phonecards, not change.
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 9:37:59 PM EDT
Take all the Gay porn you can.... As a matter of fact take nothing but gay porn. You're training instructors will love it![BD]
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 10:39:30 PM EDT
don't know about the [i]Army[/i], but the answer for Marine Boot Camp was, "Do Everything as Hard and as Fast and as Loud as you can, and realize you will STILL get shit on". With that FIRMLY in the front of your Brain-Housing-Group, it's all 'easy'.
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 10:41:53 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Stryker_11A: Ears open, mouth shut. Don't be eyeballing the area, move like you are on fire and yell [b]LOUD[/b].
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This about hits the nail on the head.
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 11:00:24 PM EDT
I will mostly likely sbe signing up for my time of duty soon. My visions getting a little blurry but I havent had it checked out. Will this be an issue? Or will the military issue me some rape prevention goggles?
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 11:50:32 PM EDT
when the yelling gets loud and you get stressed, just remember, they can't kill you and if they do the will be court martialed.
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 12:06:54 AM EDT
The first few days are always tough, they are looking to get rid of those who really dont want to be there.(we lost 3 the first night) Each phase of training will be just like the first days of bootcamp and the games will seem to get going again. Those who dont quit will leave in uniform, those who let themselves become victim of the games will walk away with a shaved head and the clothes they wore when they got there. I dont know about the Army but during my 13 weeks we were all singled out and all of us were given a hard time but it only lasted a week or so, then you were just another turd that wont quit.
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 12:13:43 AM EDT
Originally Posted By sgtar15: Volunteer every chance you get.[;)] Sgtar15
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[ROFL2][LOLabove] [size=5]GOOD IDEA![/size=5] [ROFL][LOL] You can learn to scream "F**king Legs" at the top of your lungs. [wave] Just do your best and leave any Cell Phones behind. They're not needed. By the way, Army food isn't that bad. Really! You are, however, going to miss out one of the best treats ever given to a Soldier anywhere. Canned Peaches from C-Rations. I don't believe they were equaled at any time. You New Guys will Never learn the thrill of using the P-38 Can Opener. That and eating John Wayne/Dead Duke Bars.
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 12:17:34 AM EDT
ahh it'll be over by then[:(]
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 12:27:07 AM EDT
don't let anything get to you....
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 12:48:26 AM EDT
Im not shitting you, the first night at Ft. Sill, I was in bed and thinking to myself "WTF am I doing here?" ( I had 3 years of JROTC also) by the 3rd week I was loving every min. of it!...now I would love to do it again just because I know how the game works and it was fun as hell!...and our FTX road march was only 15 miles back to main post. You will learn to make all of your food into a sandwich, the Veal pattys are ok...and I to this day mis Chili-Mac..I would take at least $100.00 I remmember that you could get travel pay if you needed it to buy your stuff, but that was 11 years ago, and I remmember it cost about 50-60 bucks for all the crap they told us to buy when we got there. Good luck man! and remmember... [size=6] YES DRILL SGT.! [/size=6]
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 12:52:36 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Aviator: Ears open, Mouth Shut. Be Motivated. Help your buddies. Aviator
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What he said! plus don't "waffle", if you mess up, take you lumps like a man. Forget every thing you learned about "boot" in the movies. That ain't it! As a "dark green" friend once told me, "It ain't nothing but a thang, and it ain't fo-ever" Hundreds of thousands have gone before you, you can and you will make it! Have a great Memorial Day weekend and then go and make your Mama proud. You are joining an elite group of men, men who are not a part of the problem, but part of the solution. Men who are willing to put it all on the line to preserve our way of life. Good luck & God Speed! Hessian-1 out!
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 2:14:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/22/2003 2:16:34 AM EDT by Garryowen]
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 2:40:46 AM EDT
Originally Posted By wil-N-VA: Show up wearing plain clothes, no jewerly, mabye a plain looking watch, no peircings, dont shave your head, but dont have a mullet. Just try to be the nameless face for 8 weeks (or however long) like Avaitor said, try to keep your mouth shut and don't volunteer for anything. Take only what you'll need, they'll search thru your stuff the first day and have you put anything unnessicary in a locked room for the rest of the time. [blue]Don't have a bruce lee fighiting book or big rubber dildo or anything.[/blue] Take plenty of socks and underware, about 8 pair each, shampoo, toothbrush and toothpaste, shaving accesories (i recomend dispasoable), deoderant, body soap, and any other personal grooming items you can think of. Glasses if you wear them, they'll tell you not to wear contacts. Some stationary if you plan on writing home (stamps/envelopes/paper/pen). Some money, like $60 or so. You might want to stash a little pack of kleenex (the TP sucks) Just dont have anything in your bag that you won't need, they love finding all your goodies, and no candy or food. And take some soap on a rope [sex] haha, just kidding. Good luck, just remember they WILL yell at you, just lock up and wait till they're done, it's all part of the game.
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[size=5]LMAO![/size=5]
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 3:29:15 AM EDT
My advice would be to join the Marines. Otherwise, Wil-N-Va said about everything you need to know. Good luck!
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 4:29:39 AM EDT
Good luck!!
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 4:36:28 AM EDT
Just remember, Once it starts the end is comming. One thing that they can not do is stop the clock. Best of Luck Badredfish [devil]
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 4:45:30 AM EDT
You won't need underwear and socks. You will be issued underwear and socks. Razors, all that junk. When I went to boot, I took myself, and not much else. Your recruiter or the MEPS station will be able to tell you what to take, but you don't need much. They also had us put our clothes and stuff we couldn't keep in a box, address it, and they shipped it back home for us. Good luck. Keep your mouth shut and do what you're told. Pay attention. Scott
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 4:54:09 AM EDT
dont bring more than you can fit in a small hand bag - you will be hauling all your new shit back home with you along with your civi stuff. Get a P38 and put it on your ID tag chain- saved my ass once. if they ask you if you have a drivers license in a looking-for-voulenteer-to-drive sort of way, dont say nuttin- they want you to "drive a broom/mop"
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 5:00:44 AM EDT
Can't add anything more so, Good Luck!
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 5:09:18 AM EDT
Acting squad leader or Platoon leader gets you nothing but trouble. If you get one, don't think you will keep it the entire time. Watch out for fire plugs when you are running in the early morning hours. Every so often a recruit will run smack into one while running in formation. Put your name in all your pants. If you have to wash in mass, you'll get them back. If you have nude photos of a babe, put them in your wall locker. The DIs will look at them and not your gear (as much). If you GI a Latrine for an inspection, make it a point to check each stall in the last few minutes. You may find a surprise that turns the inspection into a show stopper.
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 5:27:09 AM EDT
If you would have asked this a month ago I would have advised you to get a pair of poor fitting stiff leather boots. You could have worn these and built up some really good calluses on your feet. You'll get them anyway. As others said here it's 90% mental 10% physical. Good luck to ya and thank you bro. Shabo
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 5:36:50 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 5:53:33 AM EDT
Do your best at everything, understanding that no matter how hard you try you won't be able to please your Drill Sergeant. Don't let that discourage you. He'll notice, but he doesn't want to give you a big head with his compliments. [;)]
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 9:10:53 AM EDT
Thanks for all the advice, guys. I appreciate it.
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 9:56:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/22/2003 9:57:23 AM EDT by Cleatus]
show up at basic wearing marpat [banana]
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 9:57:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/22/2003 10:04:15 AM EDT by Offspring]
I went to basic at Ft. Leonard Wood at about this time in 1995. Be prepared, it is hot as hell their, especially in MOPP 4. You might actually drown from the sweat that pools in your protective mask [;)] As for the "YES DRILL SERGEANT!" Ft. Leonard Wood was one of the only boot camps (in 1995) where you called the drill sergeant "Sergeant". Seriously though, it is easy. It is all a big game. They can't hit you. So really all they can do is yell at you and make you do push ups until you can't do anymore. When you think about it, it isn't that bad. 1. Don't volunteer for anything! The exception is special weapons day. A few people are selected to fire an AT4 and a claymore. 2. Go to church. Great place to get an extra hour of sleep. 3. Be prepared to be sick the first couple of weeks you are their. The upper respiratory stuff goes around real quick. 4. Get over and clostraphobia. Those cattle trucks say they can only fir 80 people on board, but they will get at least 100 on there. 5. Don't be a Blue Falcon (aka Brovao Foxtrot, Buddy Fucker) 6. Depending on your MOS, boot camp might be the easy part. 7. The first 2 weeks is NOT boot camp. So don't expect the rest of your time to be that easy. 8. Blend in.
If you would have asked this a month ago I would have advised you to get a pair of poor fitting stiff leather boots. You could have worn these and built up some really good calluses on your feet. You'll get them anyway.
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Bootcamp nowadays is easier. Hell you can where tennis shoes with BDUs if you get a blister... Waaaa, my pussy hurts!
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 10:15:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/22/2003 10:38:47 AM EDT by Hoplite]
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 10:21:25 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Garryowen: Don't let them boss you around. Be your own man, sleep in and take extra desert in the chow hall. Shinny boots and pressed uniforms are for fags. The Drill Sgt's will rspect you for not being cowed like evryone else. It ain't no thing... ps....when you get a chance...send us your unit address...we'll send some stuff for you.
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When I was in basic, OK USAF basic, there was an Irish guy from Boston that could do nothing right. When the TI said left O'Donnle would invariably react right -- a total fuckup. Then one day when the TI was tossing out the mail in the dayroom he picked up this one envelop and started to smile. He looked at the letter and said, "O'Donnle -- front and center!" O'Donnle went up there and the TI instructed him to open the letter in front of him. He did and a really sweet looking bud [smoke] fell out of it! We all gasped [shock] then at once began to laugh [LOL] -- and so did the TI. The best part, the really best part is that his buddy from home must have been as dumb as he was because he included his return address on the envelop! [chair] Ah yes, the good old times! Later,
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 10:23:40 AM EDT
buy foot powder and use it liberally
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That reminded me of something else. Get Gold Bond Body Powder. If you don't the prickly heat will drive you insane on those road marches with your ruck sack. Your BDUs (undershirt and BDU top) will be soaking wet, all the time. At the end of the day they will be white from the salt in your sweat.
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 10:32:09 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 10:44:41 AM EDT
good advice here. thanks loads. I'm a little bit worried about getting singled out because i'm head and shoulders above the rest (literally) - 6'4" and 200 pounds - but i guess a few extra pushups never hurt anyone. I keep getting told to blend in but not sure that it's going to be real easy. Anyway, thanks, guys, and i appreciate your time!
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 10:49:53 AM EDT
What are your current numbers for push-up, sit-up, chin-up, and 2mi run?
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 10:55:56 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 11:00:54 AM EDT
The freakishly tall people [;)] always get picked on. Just hope you don't get stuck in the platoon that gets in trouble a lot. When I was in, one platoon failed an inspection and had to take everything (beds, wall lockers, etc) out of the barracks (3rd floor) and reassemble it on the PT field for another inspection. The same platoon also had to wear their class A's for firewatch the whole time they were there. As for push-ups, you only need to do 13 correct push-ups to go from reception batallion to boot camp. Don't seat the chin-ups either. Never had to do one the whole time I was in.
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 11:06:00 AM EDT
I would whak it non stop until they put me on the bus. I don't think I could handle not having enough time to jerk it properly for 8 weeks.
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 11:11:29 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ArmdLbrl: What are your current numbers for push-up, sit-up, chin-up, and 2mi run?
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Pushups, 65, Situps, 64, Two mile run, I don't know, i'm slow; around 16 minutes. *cough* FATASS *cough* pullups not chinups...? I don't know. let me see how many i can do....and i just did 16 full arm hang pullups.
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 11:13:53 AM EDT
Originally Posted By killingmachine123: I would whak it non stop until they put me on the bus. I don't think I could handle not having enough time to jerk it properly for 8 weeks.
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LMAO. I already got that under control, i don't get to see my girlfriend enough and my shlong just about has calluses on it from pounding it so much. [;)]
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