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Posted: 5/21/2003 5:06:08 AM EDT
I love Beretta for their shotguns - my first love is sporting clays. what is the word on this new carbine?? does it take the old( meaning avail model 92 15 round) mags?? Badredfish [devil]
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 5:58:35 AM EDT
Originally Posted By badredfish: I love Beretta for their shotguns - my first love is sporting clays. what is the word on this new carbine?? does it take the old( meaning avail model 92 15 round) mags?? Badredfish [devil]
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Yes, yes it does.
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 6:04:39 AM EDT
[url]http://www.berettaweb.com/Beretta%20CX4_Storm/CX4_storm1.htm[/url]
Link Posted: 5/21/2003 6:58:55 AM EDT
Are hi-caps available in 40 S&W or 45 ACP? I'd prefer a larger round. It's the same reason I got the Marlin 45 Camp Carbine rather than the 9mm.
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 1:18:31 PM EDT
Is this gun "importable" or would it fall under a bad gun and non improtable?? Inquireing minds want to know? Thanks Badredfish [devil]
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 1:45:28 PM EDT
Bling! Bling![shock]
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 1:58:00 PM EDT
Um.... Why do they have their aimpoint mounted at wierd angles: [b]40 degrees:[/b] [img]http://www.berettaweb.com/Beretta%20CX4_Storm/CX4_9.gif[/img] [b]90 degrees:[/b] [img]http://www.berettaweb.com/Beretta%20CX4_Storm/CX4_10.gif[/img]
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 2:14:26 PM EDT
that's one ugly rifle.
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 2:29:08 PM EDT
I played with one at length at the NRA Show last month. Yes, it is ugly, but it pointed well and was very comfortable. For a subgun, it seemed nice. Or course, the proof is in the shooting, so that's all I've got to say about that. -White Horse
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 2:29:28 PM EDT
I bet it can get through metal detectors... ByteTheBullet (-:
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 2:40:44 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 3:13:17 PM EDT
I have Berretta 92 mags for sale. $60 each, shipping is five dollars for as many as you buy. I have many of them. MenAgainstFire@aol.com
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 4:23:43 PM EDT
I am in the market for a pistol round carbine.I would like it set up as a suppressed weapon. I wonder if that Berreta can have a suppressor on it or will they consider that a also a flash hider? I have a marlin camp 45 ,great plinker but light on construction. I thought about converting the marlin with a complete built in suppressed barrel but have to see if it would be legal.Should be since it does not have a pistol grip.
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 5:07:28 PM EDT
Unless someone made a legal preban Marlin, its legal as long as you keep the regular style stock. The CX4 with a can is a no-no. Ruger maybe? Or a preban AR pistol caliber setup.
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 5:18:23 PM EDT
Here is another link.[url]www.cx4storm.com[/url]
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 5:23:06 PM EDT
SteyrAUG mentioned in another thread the possibility of putting together a group buy on these when production is going strong enough - if he does one, I'm there!
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I hope he can get us a good price...and SOON!
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 7:05:32 PM EDT
I'm thinking about it too..Have an Aimpoint not in use right now...Duty weapon is 40 S&W so the mags are already here....but would really like to have it in a .357 sig...[naughty]
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 7:11:29 AM EDT
Oh, well. Another addition to the Wishlist! I'll probably get it in 9mm, simply because the hi-caps are available and carry 15 rounds. Looks good for a general home-defense weapon. I have a lonely Aim-Point, too! [;)]
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 7:46:05 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Combat_Jack: Unless someone made a legal preban Marlin, its legal as long as you keep the regular style stock. The CX4 with a can is a no-no. Ruger maybe? Or a preban AR pistol caliber setup.
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how would a can on a cx4 be a no no?
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 8:02:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/23/2003 8:04:04 AM EDT by Zaphod]
Because building new Class III's for civilian use is a no-no. I think. [BD] On a different note: a 16.6 - inch barrel, eh? Hmmmmm..... I wonder if the boys at Beretta did that to allow all us nutcases to add a flash suppressor if the AWB sunsets? Could Hi-caps for .45 be in the works? [}:D]
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 8:15:43 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Zaphod: Are hi-caps available in 40 S&W or 45 ACP? I'd prefer a larger round. It's the same reason I got the Marlin 45 Camp Carbine rather than the 9mm.
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IMHO the 9x19mm is a better round for a carbine. The 9mm gains velocity the longer barrel you use, the .45ACP does not. From a 16" barrel the 124gr. 9mm is equal to, in power and velocity, to the 125gr .357mag from a 6" barrel. The .45 gains very little if any velocity in a longer barrel.
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 8:19:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/23/2003 8:21:03 AM EDT by Dave_A]
Wait... By Federal law, that gun does not have a pistol grip (thumbhole stock)... So that means it can have 1 more 'evil feature' than an AR... No PG No bayo mount No grenade launcher So it can have a detatchable mag and a flash hider (i.e. supressor), so long as the flash hider is larger or smaller around than the M16 (rifle-grenade friendly) size.... Still, I'd rather have a 9mm AR... Sten mags are bigger, and cheaper, than 92FS mags... P.S. 9mm was originally designed as a carbine round. The idea to use it as a pistol round came later...
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 8:26:48 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Dave_A: Wait... By Federal law, that gun does not have a pistol grip (thumbhole stock)... So that means it can have 1 more 'evil feature' than an AR... No PG No bayo mount No grenade launcher So it can have a detatchable mag and a flash hider (i.e. supressor), so long as the flash hider is larger or smaller around than the M16 (rifle-grenade friendly) size.... Still, I'd rather have a 9mm AR... Sten mags are bigger, and cheaper, than 92FS mags... P.S. 9mm was originally designed as a carbine round. The idea to use it as a pistol round came later...
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Thumbhole stock are considered pistol grip there was a thread about it on the board a while back IIRC
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 9:07:18 AM EDT
Originally Posted By triburst1: From a 16" barrel the 124gr. 9mm is equal to, in power and velocity, to the 125gr .357mag from a 6" barrel. The .45 gains very little if any velocity in a longer barrel.
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Oh? Why is that? I'm afraid my knowledge of ballistics is limited to what type of round goes into a weapon. [B)] Please edjumicate a novice...
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 9:09:31 AM EDT
Originally Posted By photoman: Thumbhole stock are considered pistol grip there was a thread about it on the board a while back IIRC
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I think Dave is correct here....
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 9:14:13 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Zaphod: Because building new Class III's for civilian use is a no-no. I think. [BD] On a different note: a 16.6 - inch barrel, eh? Hmmmmm..... I wonder if the boys at Beretta did that to allow all us nutcases to add a flash suppressor if the AWB sunsets? Could Hi-caps for .45 be in the works? [}:D]
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Send the thing to a GS and have the barrel threaded buy a suppressor and put it on, ain't nothing illegal about it as long as you do the NFA thing for the suppressor. Hell if I had a CLEO that would sign for a suppresor I'd get one for my P22 and my 10/22. But I don't so I can't.
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 10:57:45 AM EDT
They do take preban hi caps and there are even some aftermarket 9mm 30 rounders out there. According to Beretta they are due out in August. The Beretaa catalog has them retailed at around $700, I hope to offer them at $100 less.
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 12:19:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/23/2003 12:20:26 PM EDT by M4A2_L073754]
Ask here: [url]http://www.weareguns.com[/url] Richard Feinberg Phone / fax: 508 285 8340 Edited to add: website is down at the moment.
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