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Posted: 5/26/2016 11:04:53 AM EDT
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The air cooled engine used in the VW Karmenn Ghia is one of the most labor intensive for routine maintenance engines ever built. They don't even have an oil filter. You just change the oil very frequently. The push rod operated valves have to be checked and adjusted every 3000 miles. The engine is a 4 cylinder horizontally opposed boxer engine. That means you have to lay on the ground to do it, A brand new VW air cooled engine will last about 80 to 90,000 miles, max, and then it will need to be rebuilt. The engine has the 'standard ignition' system. That means you get to install new points, spark plugs, condenser and rotor annually. And set the dwell and timing, manually. Distributor cap and spark plug wires get replaced every other year. The front and rear brakes use drums, and they do NOT have automatic adjusters. That means AT LEAST once a year, you have to manually adjust the brakes. For all intents and purposes, they have no heat, and no defroster for the windshield. Ventilation is handled by rolling down the window(s). They have a rear engine and transmission. The gas tank is in the front of the car. They almost always burst in an accident. Also, the front tires tend to hydroplane badly in the rain. There are just TWO instruments on the dashboard: a speedometer, and a fuel gauge. That's IT. Do you still want to buy one? I sure as hell wouldn't. Buy yourself a nice used Mazda Miata. A lot of what you quoted is true of ANY 60's to early 70's car. So I'm not sure where you get "most maintenance intensive ever built." Engines will last well over 100k, if properly maintained. The heating systems work fine - WHEN they are in top shape. Most aren't. Get used to driving in the cold. Valve lash should be checked when changing the oil every 3k (like other engines with mechanical tappets of that era.) But they rarely need adjustment. If they do, you have a bad adjuster screw/nut, or a bad lifter/cam lobe. Again, rare if you change the oil. It is most emphatically NOT a modern car. But no worse than any other from that era. |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 11:06:23 AM EDT
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No love for the open tops? I think 98% I've ever seen were open tops. I have a 72 vert. It has issues - like every car from the early 70's does. They are rarer than the coupes, but people put more into preserving them, because they are ridiculously fun to drive. |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 11:06:34 AM EDT
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Just saw this one 5 minutes ago The driver looks like he gets profiled a lot. http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/mossie500/9D66B6CE-AC8D-47EF-B499-D672B3673C72.jpg I really hope a guy doesnt own that... The color and the grooming of the dog suggests female owner. Would wait around to see owner because it is either a relatively well maintained older woman or a possibly smoking hot trophy wife. That isnt a Rosie Odonnel/Mama June sweat pig vehicle, no way no how. That is likely the car of a woman of means who has tons of options available but chooses that car to be her morning coffee car. She probably has a thing for young men/pool boys and would love to play Mrs Robinson with the right young buck. |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 11:08:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryPlans for my vert include a Type 4 engine, 5 speed from a 912/914, serious frame reinforcement, 944 rear trailing arms and brakes, 944 front disks. Of course I've had those plans for about a decade.... |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 11:10:02 AM EDT
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Poor mans 914
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Posted: 5/26/2016 11:10:44 AM EDT
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A friend of mine and her old Ghia:
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Posted: 5/26/2016 11:11:46 AM EDT
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IM sent.
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Posted: 5/26/2016 11:12:30 AM EDT
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Poor mans 914 Based on the money you can sink in to them this isn't really accurate. |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 11:14:03 AM EDT
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Quote History74 - they switched to 5mph bumpers. Also last year of production, and a vert. That's worth a pretty penny now. |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 11:14:44 AM EDT
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Based on the money you can sink in to them this isn't really accurate. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Poor mans 914 Based on the money you can sink in to them this isn't really accurate. Priced parts for a 914 lately? |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 11:15:28 AM EDT
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Based on the money you can sink in to them this isn't really accurate. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Poor mans 914 Based on the money you can sink in to them this isn't really accurate. Tell me about it. I could rebuild type 1&3's in my sleep. Not by choice 
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Posted: 5/26/2016 11:18:59 AM EDT
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The air cooled engine used in the VW Karmenn Ghia is one of the most labor intensive for routine maintenance engines ever built. They don't even have an oil filter. You just change the oil very frequently. The push rod operated valves have to be checked and adjusted every 3000 miles. The engine is a 4 cylinder horizontally opposed boxer engine. That means you have to lay on the ground to do it, A brand new VW air cooled engine will last about 80 to 90,000 miles, max, and then it will need to be rebuilt. The engine has the 'standard ignition' system. That means you get to install new points, spark plugs, condenser and rotor annually. And set the dwell and timing, manually. Distributor cap and spark plug wires get replaced every other year. The front and rear brakes use drums, and they do NOT have automatic adjusters. That means AT LEAST once a year, you have to manually adjust the brakes. For all intents and purposes, they have no heat, and no defroster for the windshield. Ventilation is handled by rolling down the window(s). They have a rear engine and transmission. The gas tank is in the front of the car. They almost always burst in an accident. Also, the front tires tend to hydroplane badly in the rain. There are just TWO instruments on the dashboard: a speedometer, and a fuel gauge. That's IT. Do you still want to buy one? I sure as hell wouldn't. Buy yourself a nice used Mazda Miata. I put over 100,000 on my '62 Beetle, then gave it to my brother. He put ~10,000 on it and traded it for a Yellow T-Bird because the VW wasn't a pussy-wagon. It was still going strong. Other than the graphite bearing problems, I don't remember the maintenance being any more demanding than other cars of that era. Of course, you did have to know how to handle oversteer. Incidentally, you CAN 'do it' in a WV, it just takes some gymnastics, no more difficult than in the saddle compartment of a 2-horse trailer.
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Posted: 5/26/2016 11:21:52 AM EDT
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my friend's father had one when I was growing up. We'd drive it around. Just don't hang your arm out the window, scrapped the concrete several times until I learned my lesson. Fun cars.
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Posted: 5/26/2016 11:25:31 AM EDT
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A friend in high school had one after he got to many tickets with his Dodge charger. Of course he wrecked the KG driving it home drunk after a party.
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Posted: 5/26/2016 11:30:35 AM EDT
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My first boss was written up in Hot Rod magazine in the February 1962 edition for dropping a Corvair engine into a Ghia.
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Posted: 5/26/2016 11:40:56 AM EDT
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The air cooled engine used in the VW Karmenn Ghia is one of the most labor intensive for routine maintenance engines ever built. They don't even have an oil filter. You just change the oil very frequently. The push rod operated valves have to be checked and adjusted every 3000 miles. The engine is a 4 cylinder horizontally opposed boxer engine. That means you have to lay on the ground to do it, A brand new VW air cooled engine will last about 80 to 90,000 miles, max, and then it will need to be rebuilt. The engine has the 'standard ignition' system. That means you get to install new points, spark plugs, condenser and rotor annually. And set the dwell and timing, manually. Distributor cap and spark plug wires get replaced every other year. The front and rear brakes use drums, and they do NOT have automatic adjusters. That means AT LEAST once a year, you have to manually adjust the brakes. For all intents and purposes, they have no heat, and no defroster for the windshield. Ventilation is handled by rolling down the window(s). They have a rear engine and transmission. The gas tank is in the front of the car. They almost always burst in an accident. Also, the front tires tend to hydroplane badly in the rain. There are just TWO instruments on the dashboard: a speedometer, and a fuel gauge. That's IT. Do you still want to buy one? I sure as hell wouldn't. Buy yourself a nice used Mazda Miata. While this may not be the most factually incorrect thing I've ever read on this site, it's in the top 5..... You should try adjusting the valves on an old BMW "M-88" 6cyl........every 6k miles you get to pull the cams and install new shims.......or perhaps just change the rear brake pads on an E-type jag........maybe set up the SPICA fuel injection on a late 60's Alfa.....
Air cooled Volkswagens are criminally reliable and simple to maintain.......the only problem is really rust (and lack of A/C here in FL) |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 11:44:47 AM EDT
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I always like the looks, but was never a fan of that type of german engineering.
Just a interesting side note, that is new to me. The design was actually laid out by Chrysler as the 52 Special and they paid Ghia to make the body work. Ghia used the lines to finish a project for VW that became the Ghia. The Chrysler folks were very upset with them. design. |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 11:54:37 AM EDT
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I always like the looks, but was never a fan of that type of german engineering. Just a interesting side note, that is new to me. The design was actually laid out by Chrysler as the 52 Special and they paid Ghia to make the body work. Ghia used the lines to finish a project for VW that became the Ghia. The Chrysler folks were very upset with them. design. Eh, sort of. It's not like pontoon fenders were a new styling element. |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 12:05:53 PM EDT
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Every one I have seen except one owned by the owner of VW Haus (sp) had a bondo nose. His was cherry and the only VW type 2 in town quicker than my 61 bug. This was back in the early 80s.
My Step dad owned a VW Porsche garage and my 61 had a 1900 cc big port and valve heads with an Engle 110 cam and recurved Bosch distributor and dual Webbers with a close ratio gearbox and beef-a-diff. It was wicked fast off the line but his Ghia was faster I think he had a 2180 cc in his. |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 12:19:06 PM EDT
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Every one I have seen except one owned by the owner of VW Haus (sp) had a bondo nose. His was cherry and the only VW type 2 in town quicker than my 61 bug. This was back in the early 80s. My Step dad owned a VW Porsche garage and my 61 had a 1900 cc big port and valve heads with an Engle 110 cam and recurved Bosch distributor and dual Webbers with a close ratio gearbox and beef-a-diff. It was wicked fast off the line but his Ghia was faster I think he had a 2180 cc in his. Nitpick - the Type 2 was the bus. Karman Ghia was a Type 1. Specifically Type 14 - 141 for convertibles, 143 for coupes. |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 12:23:24 PM EDT
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An old boss had a funny story about one. Apparently the carburetor was prone to fuel leaks and was situated directly over the exhaust manifold. His wife was driving the car, the fuel started a fire, somebody flagged her down and she stopped. By that time everything was nice and hot, and ignited the magnesium engine block. Fire showed up and started pouring water on, which really doesn't help a metal fire. Car was a total loss. Fuel filter. Kills more aircooled VWs than anything. |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 12:36:39 PM EDT
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I've had a few. They all have RUST. Pans are the same as a VW Thing, not the Beetle. Repos are available and you will need them. The only car that received more gas station filling up questions was my VW Thing. Everyone loved the Ghia convertible. I had a '73 Orange Coupe that the PO had frenched in 356 Porsche headlight buckets. It also had dual Webers and that car was tons of fun. I also had a '74 914, I liked that platform better than the Ghia, but even worse for rust. The Type IV motor used in the 914 and the Vans should have been in the VW Things and later air-cooled Type 1 cars. A much better motor. VWs with good tires will go places a 4x4 won't, awesome cars in the snow.
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Posted: 5/26/2016 12:37:42 PM EDT
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An old boss had a funny story about one. Apparently the carburetor was prone to fuel leaks and was situated directly over the exhaust manifold. His wife was driving the car, the fuel started a fire, somebody flagged her down and she stopped. By that time everything was nice and hot, and ignited the magnesium engine block. Fire showed up and started pouring water on, which really doesn't help a metal fire. Car was a total loss. Umm, no. The exhaust manifolds are under the engine, the carb on top. Plenty of aircooled VW's have died in a fire, but not from that particular cause. My parent's 2.3 liter Ford Fairmont, however... |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 12:47:38 PM EDT
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I really hope a guy doesnt own that... The color and the grooming of the dog suggests female owner. Would wait around to see owner because it is either a relatively well maintained older woman or a possibly smoking hot trophy wife. That isnt a Rosie Odonnel/Mama June sweat pig vehicle, no way no how. That is likely the car of a woman of means who has tons of options available but chooses that car to be her morning coffee car. She probably has a thing for young men/pool boys and would love to play Mrs Robinson with the right young buck. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just saw this one 5 minutes ago The driver looks like he gets profiled a lot. http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/mossie500/9D66B6CE-AC8D-47EF-B499-D672B3673C72.jpg I really hope a guy doesnt own that... The color and the grooming of the dog suggests female owner. Would wait around to see owner because it is either a relatively well maintained older woman or a possibly smoking hot trophy wife. That isnt a Rosie Odonnel/Mama June sweat pig vehicle, no way no how. That is likely the car of a woman of means who has tons of options available but chooses that car to be her morning coffee car. She probably has a thing for young men/pool boys and would love to play Mrs Robinson with the right young buck. Damn, you put a lot of thought into that. But you're probably right. |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 12:47:43 PM EDT
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I've had a few. They all have RUST. Pans are the same as a VW Thing, not the Beetle. Repos are available and you will need them. The only car that received more gas station filling up questions was my VW Thing. Everyone loved the Ghia convertible. I had a '73 Orange Coupe that the PO had frenched in 356 Porsche headlight buckets. It also had dual Webers and that car was tons of fun. I also had a '74 914, I liked that platform better than the Ghia, but even worse for rust. The Type IV motor used in the 914 and the Vans should have been in the VW Things and later air-cooled Type 1 cars. A much better motor. VWs with good tires will go places a 4x4 won't, awesome cars in the snow. That's another mod on my list. There's also a guy that used to do metal flares that were so subtle you almost couldn't tell they weren't the factory fenders. But I don't think he does them anymore. |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 12:52:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Umm, no. The exhaust manifolds are under the engine, the carb on top. Plenty of aircooled VW's have died in a fire, but not from that particular cause. My parent's 2.3 liter Ford Fairmont, however... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: An old boss had a funny story about one. Apparently the carburetor was prone to fuel leaks and was situated directly over the exhaust manifold. His wife was driving the car, the fuel started a fire, somebody flagged her down and she stopped. By that time everything was nice and hot, and ignited the magnesium engine block. Fire showed up and started pouring water on, which really doesn't help a metal fire. Car was a total loss. Umm, no. The exhaust manifolds are under the engine, the carb on top. Plenty of aircooled VW's have died in a fire, but not from that particular cause. My parent's 2.3 liter Ford Fairmont, however... |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 12:56:31 PM EDT
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All I remember about them from the old days is the "Ghia Gash". Seems it was pretty common for the nose to get dented from people backing into them.
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Posted: 5/26/2016 12:58:39 PM EDT
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Used to have two of them. One coupe and one 'vert. Both were 67s
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Posted: 5/26/2016 1:00:20 PM EDT
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The exhaust ports on a Type 1 are on the sides of the head. A leaky fuel filter can drip down onto the pan and then flow over to drip onto the exhaust. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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An old boss had a funny story about one. Apparently the carburetor was prone to fuel leaks and was situated directly over the exhaust manifold. His wife was driving the car, the fuel started a fire, somebody flagged her down and she stopped. By that time everything was nice and hot, and ignited the magnesium engine block. Fire showed up and started pouring water on, which really doesn't help a metal fire. Car was a total loss. Umm, no. The exhaust manifolds are under the engine, the carb on top. Plenty of aircooled VW's have died in a fire, but not from that particular cause. My parent's 2.3 liter Ford Fairmont, however... Port location, correct - I was thinking Type 4. But it's still not "directly over". Fuel leaks will cause a fire in ANY engine compartment. The worst offenders were non-crossflow inline engines - on those the carburetors really are directly over the exhaust manifold, with an inch or so of separation. |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 1:02:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Port location, correct - I was thinking Type 4. But it's still not "directly over". Fuel leaks will cause a fire in ANY engine compartment. The worst offenders were non-crossflow inline engines - on those the carburetors really are directly over the exhaust manifold, with an inch or so of separation. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: An old boss had a funny story about one. Apparently the carburetor was prone to fuel leaks and was situated directly over the exhaust manifold. His wife was driving the car, the fuel started a fire, somebody flagged her down and she stopped. By that time everything was nice and hot, and ignited the magnesium engine block. Fire showed up and started pouring water on, which really doesn't help a metal fire. Car was a total loss. Umm, no. The exhaust manifolds are under the engine, the carb on top. Plenty of aircooled VW's have died in a fire, but not from that particular cause. My parent's 2.3 liter Ford Fairmont, however... Port location, correct - I was thinking Type 4. But it's still not "directly over". Fuel leaks will cause a fire in ANY engine compartment. The worst offenders were non-crossflow inline engines - on those the carburetors really are directly over the exhaust manifold, with an inch or so of separation. |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 1:04:58 PM EDT
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The main cause I saw was dumbasses using the glass 2 piece fuel filters. Those things ALWAYS leaked. The one piece plastic 'block' filters were the only way to go. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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An old boss had a funny story about one. Apparently the carburetor was prone to fuel leaks and was situated directly over the exhaust manifold. His wife was driving the car, the fuel started a fire, somebody flagged her down and she stopped. By that time everything was nice and hot, and ignited the magnesium engine block. Fire showed up and started pouring water on, which really doesn't help a metal fire. Car was a total loss. Umm, no. The exhaust manifolds are under the engine, the carb on top. Plenty of aircooled VW's have died in a fire, but not from that particular cause. My parent's 2.3 liter Ford Fairmont, however... Port location, correct - I was thinking Type 4. But it's still not "directly over". Fuel leaks will cause a fire in ANY engine compartment. The worst offenders were non-crossflow inline engines - on those the carburetors really are directly over the exhaust manifold, with an inch or so of separation. Lack of clamps was also a good one. |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 1:05:41 PM EDT
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My first car was a 63 Ghia in black with white hardtop roof . Got it with 40,000 original miles from an old man who lived down the street . My father negotiated the deal . I gave it to Earl Scheib for an all black paint job, did a little bit of mechanical work, some new tires and it was excellent. No radio. It was a six volt car and all my friends kept saying "put a radio in this thing!". I told him to listen to the motor. Drove the car everywhere, wasn't fast at all with only 40hp but girls loved it . I sold it to get an old Porsche which ended up giving me nothing but problems.
If you do get one OP, get a 60's car with the smaller bumpers and taillights since most agree they look better. Don't worry about the power just drive it and have fun. Be sure to find a clean car with very little rust . |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 1:33:04 PM EDT
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I really hope a guy doesnt own that... The color and the grooming of the dog suggests female owner. Would wait around to see owner because it is either a relatively well maintained older woman or a possibly smoking hot trophy wife. That isnt a Rosie Odonnel/Mama June sweat pig vehicle, no way no how. That is likely the car of a woman of means who has tons of options available but chooses that car to be her morning coffee car. She probably has a thing for young men/pool boys and would love to play Mrs Robinson with the right young buck. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just saw this one 5 minutes ago The driver looks like he gets profiled a lot. http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/mossie500/9D66B6CE-AC8D-47EF-B499-D672B3673C72.jpg I really hope a guy doesnt own that... The color and the grooming of the dog suggests female owner. Would wait around to see owner because it is either a relatively well maintained older woman or a possibly smoking hot trophy wife. That isnt a Rosie Odonnel/Mama June sweat pig vehicle, no way no how. That is likely the car of a woman of means who has tons of options available but chooses that car to be her morning coffee car. She probably has a thing for young men/pool boys and would love to play Mrs Robinson with the right young buck. Well,the houses on that street are generally $ 4-5 million,its the nice part of town
http://www.pointbrealty.com/marthas-vineyard-property-for-sale.php?id=49 |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 1:55:20 PM EDT
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Holy shit!
Someone put a Carrera 4 Cam into a bug!  |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 1:58:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryDefinitely more money than...something. |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 2:56:00 PM EDT
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The air cooled engine used in the VW Karmenn Ghia is one of the most labor intensive for routine maintenance engines ever built. They don't even have an oil filter. You just change the oil very frequently. The push rod operated valves have to be checked and adjusted every 3000 miles. The engine is a 4 cylinder horizontally opposed boxer engine. That means you have to lay on the ground to do it, A brand new VW air cooled engine will last about 80 to 90,000 miles, max, and then it will need to be rebuilt. The engine has the 'standard ignition' system. That means you get to install new points, spark plugs, condenser and rotor annually. And set the dwell and timing, manually. Distributor cap and spark plug wires get replaced every other year. The front and rear brakes use drums, and they do NOT have automatic adjusters. That means AT LEAST once a year, you have to manually adjust the brakes. For all intents and purposes, they have no heat, and no defroster for the windshield. Ventilation is handled by rolling down the window(s). They have a rear engine and transmission. The gas tank is in the front of the car. They almost always burst in an accident. Also, the front tires tend to hydroplane badly in the rain. There are just TWO instruments on the dashboard: a speedometer, and a fuel gauge. That's IT. Do you still want to buy one? I sure as hell wouldn't. Buy yourself a nice used Mazda Miata. Theres just no real reason I can see for anyone with a normal life to even consider something like this. If you want a toy, or just have endless time and money then sure. Otherwise LOL. |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 3:09:23 PM EDT
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The air cooled engine used in the VW Karmenn Ghia is one of the most labor intensive for routine maintenance engines ever built. They don't even have an oil filter. You just change the oil very frequently. The push rod operated valves have to be checked and adjusted every 3000 miles. The engine is a 4 cylinder horizontally opposed boxer engine. That means you have to lay on the ground to do it, A brand new VW air cooled engine will last about 80 to 90,000 miles, max, and then it will need to be rebuilt. The engine has the 'standard ignition' system. That means you get to install new points, spark plugs, condenser and rotor annually. And set the dwell and timing, manually. Distributor cap and spark plug wires get replaced every other year. The front and rear brakes use drums, and they do NOT have automatic adjusters. That means AT LEAST once a year, you have to manually adjust the brakes. For all intents and purposes, they have no heat, and no defroster for the windshield. Ventilation is handled by rolling down the window(s). They have a rear engine and transmission. The gas tank is in the front of the car. They almost always burst in an accident. Also, the front tires tend to hydroplane badly in the rain. There are just TWO instruments on the dashboard: a speedometer, and a fuel gauge. That's IT. Do you still want to buy one? I sure as hell wouldn't. Buy yourself a nice used Mazda Miata. Words of wisdom here. |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 3:14:35 PM EDT
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my hippy friend had one. He loved it.
He drove it from Dallas to upstate new york and back. We were taking bets on what state he would break down in. Sure enough, he made it there and back with no issues. |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 3:17:24 PM EDT
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A friend had one in high school.
It had an 1800 engine with dual Webers and a Select a Drop, that's all I remember about it. It was faster than all of the other VW's at school. |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 3:19:30 PM EDT
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I've had a fantasy about getting on and shoehorning a 911 engine into the engine compartment since I was around 14 years old. I still think that would be fucking cool.
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Posted: 5/26/2016 3:20:56 PM EDT
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Can't help you.
Closest I ever got was a '72 wagon. I was a kid with $500 burning a hole in my pocket. I just had t have it. 
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Posted: 5/26/2016 3:38:10 PM EDT
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If I was going to go for a classic it would be one of these and not a Karmen Gorilla;
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Posted: 5/26/2016 3:52:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I was going to go for a classic it would be one of these and not a Karmen Gorilla; http://www.imsahistory.com/Pictures/Altec914.jpg The factory ZF transmission is rated up to 500 horsepower, IIRC. |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 3:56:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To drop a small block Chevy into that, the only body mod necessary is cutting a hole in the front trunk for the radiator. You use the factory engine mount location, install a new shift linkage, route the throttle cable, fab new exhaust and bolt the adapter to the stock transmission. The factory ZF transmission is rated up to 500 horsepower, IIRC. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If I was going to go for a classic it would be one of these and not a Karmen Gorilla; http://www.imsahistory.com/Pictures/Altec914.jpg The factory ZF transmission is rated up to 500 horsepower, IIRC. They still like to eat clutch cables though. Honestly that was the most fun car I have ever owned, like a friggen gocart. |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 4:02:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They still like to eat clutch cables though. Honestly that was the most fun car I have ever owned, like a friggen gocart. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: If I was going to go for a classic it would be one of these and not a Karmen Gorilla; http://www.imsahistory.com/Pictures/Altec914.jpg The factory ZF transmission is rated up to 500 horsepower, IIRC. They still like to eat clutch cables though. Honestly that was the most fun car I have ever owned, like a friggen gocart. But hell, a stock 2.0 in a '73 or '74, lowered a bit with 19mm sway bars and Koni adjustable shocks was fun as hell to drive. And I say '73/'74 because I hated the big rubber bumpers on the '75/'76. |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 4:03:31 PM EDT
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They still like to eat clutch cables though. Honestly that was the most fun car I have ever owned, like a friggen gocart. 4 cyl or one of the about 3300 true Porsche 6 cyl ones they made? |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 4:03:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 4 cyl or one of the about 3300 true Porsche 6 cyl ones they made? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They still like to eat clutch cables though. Honestly that was the most fun car I have ever owned, like a friggen gocart. 4 cyl or one of the about 3300 true Porsche 6 cyl ones they made? |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 4:08:31 PM EDT
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To drop a small block Chevy into that, the only body mod necessary is cutting a hole in the front trunk for the radiator. You use the factory engine mount location, install a new shift linkage, route the throttle cable, fab new exhaust and bolt the adapter to the stock transmission. The factory ZF transmission is rated up to 500 horsepower, IIRC. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If I was going to go for a classic it would be one of these and not a Karmen Gorilla; http://www.imsahistory.com/Pictures/Altec914.jpg The factory ZF transmission is rated up to 500 horsepower, IIRC. Transmissions were Porsche, derived from the 901, not the 915. Renegade says they are good for about 300 lb*ft of torque, but not to abuse it. |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 4:10:18 PM EDT
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4 cyl or one of the about 3300 true Porsche 6 cyl ones they made? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They still like to eat clutch cables though. Honestly that was the most fun car I have ever owned, like a friggen gocart. 4 cyl or one of the about 3300 true Porsche 6 cyl ones they made? The 2. 0 with the Porsche designed heads only had a little less horsepower than the 6 cylinders installed in 70 and 71. And was substantially lighter. Didn't rev as high, though. |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 4:12:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Transmissions were Porsche, derived from the 901, not the 915. Renegade says they are good for about 300 lb*ft of torque, but not to abuse it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: If I was going to go for a classic it would be one of these and not a Karmen Gorilla; http://www.imsahistory.com/Pictures/Altec914.jpg The factory ZF transmission is rated up to 500 horsepower, IIRC. Transmissions were Porsche, derived from the 901, not the 915. Renegade says they are good for about 300 lb*ft of torque, but not to abuse it. I'm trying to remember this stuff, but it's been 25 years since I was in the industry. |
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