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Posted: 5/19/2003 5:19:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/19/2003 9:19:52 AM EDT by fight4yourrights]
I was in the grocery line yesterday when I see the "Pennsylvania Freedom" card being used by the chick in front of me. Great, I think, I'm paying for her too. She's got a bunch of good looking meat, and more. Better groceries than me. Wad of cash too. To add insult to injury, these freeloaders ALWAYS tie up the line. Hey, how about letting me go first so I can get back to work to pay for YOUR GROCERIES??? How about a special line for the freeloaders? So how do you feel to see that you are paying for the people in front of you? [red]**** - disclaimer - I'm talking about the moochers, not unfortunate folks with a legitimate need ****[/red]
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 5:25:53 AM EDT
Go outside and see what they load those groceries into! I saw the "Welfare Queen" load the steaks into a lowered Suburban with high $ wheels and tires! America! What a country!
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 5:28:04 AM EDT
The unfourtunate "food stamp" downtrodden people need their own "grocery line for social welfare ONLY" as well as designated parking in the lot, like the expant mothers parking spots poping up eversoslowly. These folks "should be able to buy butts'n scratch tickets with their stamps too![;)]
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 5:31:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/19/2003 5:31:42 AM EDT by fight4yourrights]
Originally Posted By dnra: The unfourtunate "food stamp" downtrodden people
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Food stamps?? Bah!! They got rid of those a few years ago, they "stigmatize" those folks. The Freedom card is just like a credit card. Maryland uses the same system as well. Kids in Maryland would take their "credit card" and go into 7-11 and load up on overpriced crap. Hell, they flash their plastic now! (that I pay for)
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Link Posted: 5/19/2003 5:34:21 AM EDT
Freedom card?! Dependency on government handouts is not freedom! What a farce!
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 5:35:42 AM EDT
Originally Posted By TUMOR: Go outside and see what they load those groceries into! I saw the "Welfare Queen" load the steaks into a lowered Suburban with high $ wheels and tires! America! What a country!
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Exactly, that really burns my ass. Around here its bred into some families. 3rd generation "germs" that have the system figured out and expects everybody else to support their 6 kids from 6 different fathers. It's a lifestyle for them, they have no pride.
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 5:43:55 AM EDT
The real travesty is that they all grow up and vote Democratic.
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 5:51:42 AM EDT
War is Peace Ignorance is Strength Freedom is Slavery Scott
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 5:54:52 AM EDT
It's called "Socialism", it's what happens to a country when non-stake holders, and women, are allowed to vote... They ALWAYS vote for "Daddy" to care for them.
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 6:00:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/19/2003 6:02:19 AM EDT by polarisfan]
Back in 1990,I sacked groceries at the local market in SW Kansas. The govt moved 1000 Viet refugees to our area and got them jobs at the new IBP plant. They would come in to the store,cash their large checks (made even larger due to not having to pay income tax),pay for their stuff in foodstamps,and watch me carry them to their new TransAms! See,we all just made the mistake of being born here! My good friend,whenever he sees somone using them,waves and says "You're Welcome!"in a loud voice!
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 6:04:31 AM EDT
The nice thing about most people with foodstamps is they are to F@$%ing lazy to go vote. This chick I know had a kid and now she goes around bragging about how she gets all this gov't cheese since she is a single mom. 19 also. I say keep it out of your pants, or pay the price. What a skank.
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 6:16:40 AM EDT
When Im at the store getting the stuff that was on sale which is usualy enough for me to carry with my hands it seems that every damned line is full of freedom carders with carts packed full of stuff, shrimp, steaks and all kinds of other stuff I usually dont buy because its out of my price range. And never go to the store around the begening of the month its packed then. Only good things about the cards is that it makes it abit harder for them to cash them in and buy crack, alchol, and thier "bling bling". And you dont see the empty food stamp booklets all around the parking lot anymore. They are famalies who live off our tax dollars they dont want to get any job there is no real reason for them too. They end up living better then us who go and work and they get to sit on their asses and watch TV in their house while eating their food all of which we pay for. While they are doing this we are out busting our asses working trying to make a living which I barely do after taxes rip money out of my check to feed these damned leeches. We need to start doing something about this.
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 6:22:25 AM EDT
Originally Posted By liberty86: It's called "Socialism", it's what happens to a country when non-stake holders, and women, are allowed to vote... They ALWAYS vote for "Daddy" to care for them.
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Yup. That's the truth! Scott
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 6:31:27 AM EDT
Enjoy it Kids! It's going to be worse when you get to your 40's and 50's. That is IF the $ holds out. I'm betting it won't with the economy STILL tanking and 47 out of 50 states in big $ trouble. The "Pot of Gold" is running out.!!!!
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 6:35:02 AM EDT
Originally Posted By TUMOR: Enjoy it Kids! It's going to be worse when you get to your 40's and 50's. That is IF the $ holds out. I'm betting it won't with the economy STILL tanking and 47 out of 50 states in big $ trouble. The "Pot of Gold" is running out.!!!!
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That's the only thing about the S hitting the fan that I look forward to. Without the gov. to take care of these people, they're done.
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 6:42:13 AM EDT
I don't have a problem with food stamp users if they are in genuine need and they are not used as part of a [b]permanent[/b] subsidy. I bagged groceries while I was in high school and saw a fair amount of (what was then) food stamp users. Most of them didn't buy extravagent food or drive expensive cars. But, on occasion, you did see what appeared to be abuse of the program and unfortunately, those seemed to be the ones you remember because they really tee you off.
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 6:50:13 AM EDT
Somehow, this seemed appropriate this morning. I cross ocean, poor and broke, Take bus, see employment folk. Nice man treat me good in there, Say I need to see welfare. Welfare say, "You come no more, We send cash right to your door." Welfare checks, they make you wealthy, Medicaid it keep you healthy! By and by, I got plenty money, Thanks to you, American dummy. Write to friends in motherland, Tell them 'come as fast as you can.' They come in turbans and Ford trucks, I buy big house with welfare bucks. They come here, we live together, More welfare checks, it gets better! Fourteen families, they moving in, But neighbor's patience wearing thin. Finally, white guy moves away, Now I buy his house, and then I say, "Find more aliens for house to rent." And in the yard I put a tent. Send for family they just trash, But they, too, draw the welfare cash! Everything is very good, And soon we own the neighborhood. We have hobby -- it's called breeding, Welfare pay for baby feeding. Kids need dentist? Wife need pills? We get free! We got no bills! American crazy! He pay all year, To keep welfare running here. We think America darn good place! Too darn good for the white man race. If they no like us, they can scram, Got lots of room in Pakistan.
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Link Posted: 5/19/2003 7:35:10 AM EDT
Nothing torques me more than being behind one of the local welfare "Brood Mares" at the grocery.
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 7:55:33 AM EDT
once, and its been a while back, one of them tried to buy dog food with their "lone star card" they were told they couldnt put dog food on their card..................so they went right back and got ground hamburger meat instead recently, like in the past month, the mechanic next door to our shop said he lost his helper............guy called in, said he wasnt coming back to work. why? his welfare application was accepted. now he can sit on his dead ass, do jack shit, and live better than he was. what a FN deal
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 8:07:54 AM EDT
BULL FUCKING SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!! I repeat [b][size=6]BULL FUCKING SHIT![/b][/size=6] Yes there are plenty of people that abuse the system, but not all you mother fuckers!!! What about the guy that worked 18 years and then gets hurt!! Thru no fault of his own. I'll even recap it for. $620 a month from workers comp. $315 in cash from welfare $300 in food stamps per month!! [b]Total[/b] $1235 per month. Can you fucking live off of that? Can you feed and support a family of four?? Housing is a bitch to get and I will not get it!! I am also the one that paid into this just as much as you did...remember I worked 18 years prior...have all of you? Hell I once paid over $10k in taxes in 1 fucking year...how about you folks???? And yes, I have thanked you people before for going to work and supporting my hurt ass. My 16 y.o. son will soon bve getting a job and he will help with the bills. When he does the amount goes down. When/if I ever get better and back to work I will have to repay the shit back at 10% interest. I have sold guns,TVs, ect to help pay bills. I eat food that you people wouldn't dream of eating. I have watched my kids suffer because I can't get them nice things for B-days. I have had to swallow my pride and except money and gifts from relatives and total strangers just so I can pay bills!!! And I fully support any welfare cuts or reform that comes down the pike!! Republicans support tax cuts that save them money. Real republicans support tax cuts that will take money away from them!! Again, yes there is a ton of waste out there. but don't be a moron and lump everyone together. Sgtar15[:(!] PS 1989 Plymoth Acclaim that often doesn't run...want to fucking trade?!?!?!?!
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 8:09:29 AM EDT
You guy's know me by now. I like to keep it simple so I can understand it. Kinda like this...... 2 Thess 3:6-10 6 In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers, to keep away from every brother who is idle and does not live according to the teaching you received from us. 7 For you yourselves know how you ought to follow our example. We were not idle when we were with you, 8 nor did we eat anyone's food without paying for it. On the contrary, we worked night and day, laboring and toiling so that we would not be a burden to any of you. 9 We did this, not because we do not have the right to such help, but in order to make ourselves a model for you to follow. 10 For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: [red]"If a man will not work, he shall not eat."[/red] NIV
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 8:13:07 AM EDT
Originally Posted By sgtar15: BULL FUCKING SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!! I repeat [b][size=6]BULL FUCKING SHIT![/b][/size=6] Yes there are plenty of people that abuse the system, but not all you mother fuckers!!! What about the guy that worked 18 years and then gets hurt!! Thru no fault of his own. I'll even recap it for. $620 a month from workers comp. $315 in cash from welfare $300 in food stamps per month!! [b]Total[/b] $1235 per month. Can you fucking live off of that? Can you feed and support a family of four?? Housing is a bitch to get and I will not get it!! I am also the one that paid into this just as much as you did...remember I worked 18 years prior...have all of you? Hell I once paid over $10k in taxes in 1 fucking year...how about you folks???? And yes, I have thanked you people before for going to work and supporting my hurt ass. My 16 y.o. son will soon bve getting a job and he will help with the bills. When he does the amount goes down. When/if I ever get better and back to work I will have to repay the shit back at 10% interest. I have sold guns,TVs, ect to help pay bills. I eat food that you people wouldn't dream of eating. I have watched my kids suffer because I can't get them nice things for B-days. I have had to swallow my pride and except money and gifts from relatives and total strangers just so I can pay bills!!! And I fully support any welfare cuts or reform that comes down the pike!! Republicans support tax cuts that save them money. Real republicans support tax cuts that will take money away from them!! Again, yes there is a ton of waste out there. but don't be a moron and lump everyone together. Sgtar15[:(!] PS 1989 Plymoth Acclaim that often doesn't run...want to fucking trade?!?!?!?!
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Yet you still have money for internet access and a gold membership to AR15.com.????? Nobody was attacking you Sgtar!!! Settle down. [WOW]
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 8:15:08 AM EDT
Originally Posted By sgtar15: What about the guy that worked 18 years and then gets hurt!! Thru no fault of his own.
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Then he deserves his insurance money. My wife is in the same boat right now and is getting screwed out of the insurance she PAID for. I feel your pain buddy.
[b]Total[/b] $1235 per month. Can you fucking live off of that?
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Hell no.
Hell I once paid over $10k in taxes in 1 fucking year...how about you folks????
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My wife alone paid more than that last year. Since December, she's getting ZERO dollars, and paying out about $400 a month for medical insurance, and lot's more for treatments
I have sold guns,TVs, ect to help pay bills. I eat food that you people wouldn't dream of eating. I have watched my kids suffer because I can't get them nice things for B-days. I have had to swallow my pride and except money and gifts from relatives and total strangers just so I can pay bills!!!
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and in today's society, you are a noble fool. You could be living large if you just started working the system. Congrads for trying to keep it together, but the System today rewards the leaches, not the guy that just needs (and deserves) a little help.
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 8:19:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/19/2003 8:29:07 AM EDT by Paul]
[edited out name calling - Paul] People were attcking me...They generized. You don't know who paid for my membership and you don't know who paid for my internet now do you?? Hows this for generizing; [b]All guns are evil There is no reason why you need more than 1 gun You gun owners are just a bunch of want-a-be militia killers[/b] Open your fucking eyes and see your own short coming. Just because I recieve .gov assistance doesn't mean I need to explain my life to you!! Sgtar15
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 8:24:50 AM EDT
I agree with yopu fight4yourrights, but your generized in your first post and so did many others. I think the real problem here is the imigrants and the lazy good for nothing inner city type people. I personnaly think 80-90% don't belongf on werlfare.but you didn't say that. You lumped us all together. And then 1 clown actually has the balls to use the bible as a weapon against us...WTF????? Some Christian he must be! SGtar15
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 8:27:02 AM EDT
Originally Posted By sgtar15: Just because I recieve .gov assistance doesn't mean I need to explain my life to you!!
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Then don't. If you're not one of the people abusing it and using it to subsidize your income from dealing illegal drugs, then no one in this thread was talking about you. Now go take your meds and amp the fuck down.
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 8:31:46 AM EDT
Jeeeezzzz..... really.
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 8:33:08 AM EDT
I was waiting in line at the grocery store and struck up a conversation with a nice young white couple in front of me. They were in their mid-20s, obviously intelligent and probably had at least some college. When it came time to pay, the guy laughs a little bit and says, "Here ya go, here's my ghetto visa card." Yeah, real fuckin funny asshole! I'm glad the taxman robbed me so I could pay for your food! If someone needs help, I have no problem helping them. It's when I have the taxman backed up with armed IRS thugs that forces me to make a "contribution" that gets me seeing red! -Nick Viejo.
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 8:34:05 AM EDT
Originally Posted By sgtar15: I agree with yopu fight4yourrights, but your generized in your first post and so did many others.
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I apologize for that. I think we tend to speak in generalizations, thinking that most folks understand we aren't talking about [i]everyone[/i]. It's basically a given to me, since virtually no statement would be true about everyone in a group. We do the same thing discussing liberals, cops, whatever. I think you are carrying too much guilt over the whole issue. I recall this coming up before, many months ago, and you seem like you have a real chip on your shoulder. I can understand some of what you are experiencing, though not all of it. Until you live through it, I don't think anyone can really understand it. I've only lived with parts of it. You know in your heart if you are loafing and mooching off the system, and you know if you aren't. Don't worry about what the rest of the world thinks. They don't know Jack until they've walked in your shoes. People say they understand, but they don't. They don't have a friggin clue.
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 8:37:00 AM EDT
Thank you fight4yourrights!! That's a better post then your original. Yes I have guilt over this...how can a grown/honest man not??? Sgtar15
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Link Posted: 5/19/2003 8:44:02 AM EDT
Originally Posted By sgtar15: I agree with yopu fight4yourrights, but your generized in your first post and so did many others. I think the real problem here is the [red]imigrants and the lazy good for nothing inner city type people.[/red]
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[size=6][red]Who's generalizing now?[/red][/size=6] You know sgtar15, the funny thing is every single person in this country is a immigrant or a relative to an immigrant. Unless of course you happen to be Sioux, Crow, Apache etc..
I personnaly think 80-90% don't belongf on werlfare.but you didn't say that. You lumped us all together.
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Who died and made you the great judge of who should and shouldn't be on welfare?
And then 1 clown actually has the balls to use the bible as a weapon against us...WTF?????
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Apparently you have a guilty conscience. The Bible uses language that certainly at the very least implies that if you CAN work but choose NOT to work, you should not eat. If you are really disabled and you really can't work, then it's the CHURCH'S responsibility NOT THE GOVERNMENTS to get you set up to be able to either support yourself or help you financially and spiritually until you die. This is God's way of doing things, as opposed to Roosevelts.
Some Christian he must be!
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Well, I've never claimed to be perfect.........
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 8:47:18 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 8:51:23 AM EDT
There's the real crime in all of this. There will always be slackers who make a living by playing off the sympathies of their betters. I came to terms with that about the same time I filled out my first 1040. Here's what really flames my ass. The system is so famously corrupt that someone who earned the meager assistance he's getting feels guilty by association.
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 8:54:31 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Delta_3_63: There's the real crime in all of this. There will always be slackers who make a living by playing off the sympathies of their betters. I came to terms with that about the same time I filled out my first 1040. Here's what really flames my ass. The system is so famously corrupt that someone who earned the meager assistance he's getting feels guilty by association.
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DING DING DING We have a winner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sgtar15
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 9:15:58 AM EDT
About 15 years ago, I decided to finish college. My wife was in veterinary school, and we lived in the college town. There were no jobs there (I had one for awhile sweeping an auto repair shop), so I worked 65 miles away. The cost to drive back and forth meant I wasn't making much, and I finally fell asleep driving home one night and quit the job. I only lacked 3 semesters from finishing, and just couldn't find a job in town. My wife and I went to see about food stamps so we could eat something besides peanut butter on day old bread and macaroni. They said our only car was worth too much money (it was an old GMC Jimmy). If only I'd sell the car, I could get some food stamps. How the hell could I find another job if I sold the car? We just scraped by and I finished school, anyway. Made me hate the system, though. We would never have been permanent fixtures of the system (we call it "On Check" in Oklahoma). Of course, many are willing to give up independence for a steady check from the Uncle. The system seems designed to breed dependence and a permanent voting block.
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 9:55:55 AM EDT
Originally Posted By sgtar15: ....yes there is a ton of waste out there. but don't be a moron and lump everyone together.
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WHOA!!!!!! Don't overreact. I'm not saying 100% of Welfare is bad! There is a time/place/situation for it. But there is alot..I mean ALOT of abuse. And it's killing us economically.
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 10:14:03 AM EDT
Originally Posted By TUMOR:
Originally Posted By sgtar15: ....yes there is a ton of waste out there. but don't be a moron and lump everyone together.
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WHOA!!!!!! Don't overreact. I'm not saying 100% of Welfare is bad! There is a time/place/situation for it. But there is alot..I mean ALOT of abuse. And it's killing us economically.
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AMEN. It's killing us spiritually as well. Trust the government for all you needs instead of God.
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 10:15:13 AM EDT
Originally Posted By sgtar15:
Originally Posted By Delta_3_63: There's the real crime in all of this. There will always be slackers who make a living by playing off the sympathies of their betters. I came to terms with that about the same time I filled out my first 1040. Here's what really flames my ass. The system is so famously corrupt that someone who earned the meager assistance he's getting feels guilty by association.
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DING DING DING We have a winner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sgtar15
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Look, I see both sides of this story. One the one side is my brother in law. He is disabled, lives alone on government assistance. He is not employable and basically is about as far down the totem pole as it gets. I have no problem seeing the $30K me and the wife payed in taxes last year going to people like him. Then, the other side. Where I grew up, the neighborhood went downhill the last 5 years my family lived there. We were surrounded by section 8 housing. We had break-ins, car theft, you name it. The grocery store was filled with food stamp users. But I know for a fact, those lazy fucks had money for malt liquor, pizza delivery, bling-bling and drugs and I am not talking about 1-2 or 10 people I am talking about hundreds. How do I know this, I delivered pizza in the neighborhood, saw these pieces of shit walking from the section 8, to the corner store, trade food stamps for crack or weed, and walk into the corner store to buy colt 45 on sunday at 12:01 pm. I lived it. The system is broken. I don't want to see my brother in law on the street and he won't be because we have the means to take care of him, but not everybody is the same. But I hate seeing a group of freeloading trash jiving down the street with a st. ides in hand and food stamps in the other. Bullshit, I say, these people need to be found out, loaded up in boxcars and dumped on the other side of the texas/mexico border.
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 10:21:05 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Darin_Marple: these people need to be found out, loaded up in boxcars and dumped on the other side of the texas/mexico border.
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Good idea but somebody in D.C. got confused... Now we have "Mexico" being loaded up and dumped on THIS SIDE of the texas/mexico border. No habla!
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