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Posted: 5/15/2003 10:26:10 AM EDT
Today's CourtTV Poll: [url]http://www.courttv.com/ctvapp/thirteenth2.cfm[/url] Does the assault weapons ban violate gun owner rights? Yes 26.5% No 73.4%
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 10:29:49 AM EDT
Just so ya know when alot of people are linking to polls from the same site or have the same cookies it usually blocks your vote.
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 10:30:49 AM EDT
no 72.9% yes 27%
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 10:44:07 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ZRH: Just so ya know when alot of people are linking to polls from the same site or have the same cookies it usually blocks your vote.
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Just so ya know... I don't care.
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 10:44:08 AM EDT
Does the assault weapons ban violate gun owner rights? 28.3% Yes 71.6% No
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 10:51:46 AM EDT
Delete cookies and vote all you want
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 10:55:30 AM EDT
Yes: 44.7% No: 55.2% Keep hitting it people, we don't need to loose another one!
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 10:56:15 AM EDT
Yes 47.4% No 52.5%
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 10:58:02 AM EDT
Well ive voted a few hundred times now moved it past 50 50 ill keep moving it but im hungry and want some del taco soon
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 10:58:32 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ZRH: Just so ya know when alot of people are linking to polls from the same site or have the same cookies it usually blocks your vote.
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Don't confuse cookies, which are an identifier for a session and unique, and HTTP referrers, which will show where the url was linked from. BTW: [B]Does the Assault Weapons Ban violate gun owner rights? Yes: 47.4% No: 52.5%[/B] Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas...
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 10:59:04 AM EDT
Yes 50.6 No 49.3 I will say that the delete of the cookies is not something I wish to partake in, I honestly want to know how the poles turn out...Otherwise I have to agree w/ JAFO "I dont care" [:D]
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 11:05:58 AM EDT
Does the assault weapons ban violate gun owner rights? Yes 59.4% No 40.5%
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 11:06:13 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 11:06:22 AM EDT
Well, fixing polls doesn't really change public opinion. If you think we are winning because a bunch of gun nutz go "hit a poll," well, then I'm not sure I could explain it to ya ;)
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 11:06:47 AM EDT
Originally Posted By R-32: Yes 50.6 No 49.3 I will say that the delete of the cookies is not something I wish to partake in, I honestly want to know how the poles turn out...Otherwise I have to agree w/ JAFO "I dont care" [:D]
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Yeah, I agree. I just went ahead and voted a few times for friends and family.
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 11:07:51 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 11:08:11 AM EDT
Even though I vote in these polls all the time, I can't help but think it's self defeating. Sure, we can tip the scales but, then it makes it more difficult for us to determine exactly what and how many we're up aginst... I like to know who my enemies are. Besides, the results will change no ones mind, the poll takers know when the box is being stuffed and if it's favorable to us it'll get buried anyways. So now it's up to %61.8 yes, %38.1 no. (the damage is done anyways, so why the Hell not [:)])
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 11:09:56 AM EDT
Originally Posted By paper: Well ive voted a few hundred times now moved it past 50 50 ill keep moving it but im hungry and want some del taco soon
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If you channeled that time and energy into writing political representatives, perhaps you could make a *real* difference.
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 11:09:58 AM EDT
Originally Posted By paper: Well ive voted a few hundred times now moved it past 50 50 ill keep moving it but im hungry and want some del taco soon
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Please don't do that. They can tell when you do that and may remove the poll because of it. Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas...
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 11:11:19 AM EDT
It is now Does the assault weapons ban violate gun owner rights? 61.5% Yes 38.4% No
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 11:14:48 AM EDT
Why don't you take a math class.[flame] One of the 1st things they will teach you in stat is quality of your sample. Since it was not random and only includes people online who look at a particular webpage it will never be a valid poll. So they are just begging me to further skew thier numbers. Im going to Del Taco in a bit but 1st im going to run EZMacro and run this poll up to 90%
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 11:17:02 AM EDT
Done Does the assault weapons ban violate gun owner rights? 61.0% Yes 38.9% No
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 11:17:32 AM EDT
Does the assault weapons ban violate gun owner rights? 59.8% Yes 40.1% No
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 11:26:09 AM EDT
At least a "hammered poll" won't show up as "news" in some report. I have a theory that polls that come out in favor of gun-control tend to show up in news stories as a hard poll, which DOES do some damage regardless of how BS it is. I think that by hammering every poll we find, it reduces the chances that such polls will be used against us. It will also leave the distinct impression (over a period of years) that gun-control is a losing issue, whether true or not. Sure, we'll never hear about a hammered poll on the nightly news, and sure it is never scientific, but there are other intangible results: 1) Less false polling data to show support for gun control. 2) Remind folks that pro-gunners are still out there, and are paying attention. 3) Help people realize that polls are often skewed. 4) Leaves the impression that the internet is 'conservative'. The liberals have TV, newsprint, and magazines, conservatives dominate radio and the internet. These polls will never be accurate, so I'd just take the intangible benefits.
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 11:41:37 AM EDT
ROUNDS COMPLETE. Hits recorded. Requesting additional artillery at previous coordinates. HIT IT WITH EVERYTHING YOU HAVE! OUT.
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 12:12:32 PM EDT
5 rem **NEO-CON GUN CONTROL LOGIC SUBROUTINE** 10 a(1)$="democrats" 20 a(2)$="republicans" 30 x(1)$="unconstitutional and an infringement" 40 x(2)$="reasonable and common sense" 50 print "Who is enacting the assault weapon ban?" 60 print "1- democrats" 70 print "2- republicans" 80 input c 90 if c<>1 or c<>2 then goto 50 100 print "If the ";a(c)$;" enact the assault weapon ban then it is ";x(c)$ 110 goto 10
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 12:13:43 PM EDT
YES 73.3 NO 26.6
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 1:07:44 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Torf: At least a "hammered poll" won't show up as "news" in some report. I have a theory that polls that come out in favor of gun-control tend to show up in news stories as a hard poll, which DOES do some damage regardless of how BS it is. I think that by hammering every poll we find, it reduces the chances that such polls will be used against us. It will also leave the distinct impression (over a period of years) that gun-control is a losing issue, whether true or not. Sure, we'll never hear about a hammered poll on the nightly news, and sure it is never scientific, but there are other intangible results: 1) Less false polling data to show support for gun control. 2) Remind folks that pro-gunners are still out there, and are paying attention. 3) Help people realize that polls are often skewed. 4) Leaves the impression that the internet is 'conservative'. The liberals have TV, newsprint, and magazines, conservatives dominate radio and the internet. These polls will never be accurate, so I'd just take the intangible benefits.
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I didn't say I was against "hammering" polls. Just so the "hammer" doesn't think he's done a lot for the "cause" it's all good :) We are a minority. We have a lot of work to do. Not just anti-gun people are anti-black rifle. Have fun with the polls, but stay focused on the task at hand. Write to your reps. Introduce non-gun owners to shooting. Introduce non-black rifle owners to black rifles. There is a lot we can do that is much more effective than "hammering" polls. :)
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 1:15:53 PM EDT
Another vote for freedom, which also makes me believe that they will probably disregard the findings of this poll. It doesn't suit "their" version of the facts.
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 1:48:12 PM EDT
Does the assault weapons ban violate gun owner rights? Yes 66.5% No 33.4%
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 1:50:10 PM EDT
Agree totally, JAFO!
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 1:51:53 PM EDT
Yes 66.1 No 33.8
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 2:02:41 PM EDT
Does the assault weapons ban violate gun owner rights? 65.7% Yes 34.2% No Fire for effect!
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 2:28:20 PM EDT
64.3% Yes 35.6% No
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 2:30:02 PM EDT
Does the assault weapons ban violate gun owner rights? 64.2% Yes 35.7% No
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 2:42:16 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 5:41:27 PM EDT
Does the assault weapons ban violate gun owner rights? 60.5% Yes 39.4% No
Link Posted: 5/16/2003 12:24:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/16/2003 12:25:09 AM EDT by Kihn]
Does the assault weapons ban violate gun owner rights? 61.5% Yes 38.4% No Gained a little ground back.
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