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Link Posted: 5/7/2016 12:12:45 PM EDT
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FUCK THE NFATCA
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Also this
Link Posted: 5/7/2016 12:14:44 PM EDT
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In early on a nolo thread
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Never seen "warm regards" before.



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There's nothing wrong with that at all.



 
Link Posted: 5/7/2016 12:25:24 PM EDT
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Tag.
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Link Posted: 5/7/2016 12:38:12 PM EDT
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I'll be at the NRA convention.  I'll hand deliver a copy to them.



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If you do so and get it on video with you saying,"I informed you thusly..." I'll let you marry my sister.



...okay so I don't have a sister, but if I did, I would.



 
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There's nothing wrong with that at all.

 
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Never seen "warm regards" before.



Do you use that often?




There's nothing wrong with that at all.

 


Yeah, every time I've used it though it's sort of a preemptive written "well, bless your heart..." kinda of thing.



Pretty sure that's the case here too.



 
Link Posted: 5/7/2016 12:53:30 PM EDT
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Nolo 2016

Our only hope
Link Posted: 5/7/2016 1:04:58 PM EDT
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Nolo,
Thank you for continuing to be a bastion for liberty.
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There's nothing wrong with that at all.
 
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Never seen "warm regards" before.

Do you use that often?


There's nothing wrong with that at all.
 


I was simply asking an honest question.

There was no hidden meaning behind my intent, despite your projection.


Link Posted: 5/7/2016 1:08:09 PM EDT
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Nolo 2016



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I would be first in line at my polling station to vote for Nolo.  I'd be camped out from the night before for the chance to do so.



 
Link Posted: 5/7/2016 1:08:53 PM EDT
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Subbed for outcome. Nolo for President?
Link Posted: 5/7/2016 1:26:09 PM EDT
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Check your texts, Nolo.
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I would be first in line at my polling station to vote for Nolo.  I'd be camped out from the night before for the chance to do so.

 
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Nolo 2016



Our only hope
I would be first in line at my polling station to vote for Nolo.  I'd be camped out from the night before for the chance to do so.

 
But, how good are his wall building skillz?

 









Thanks Nolo!
Link Posted: 5/7/2016 1:35:10 PM EDT
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I love this place.


Warmest Regards.  

Link Posted: 5/7/2016 1:36:24 PM EDT
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Fucking A Nolo.
Link Posted: 5/7/2016 1:41:48 PM EDT
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The membership here would just call him lying nolo and vote for a gun grabbing dem
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Nolo 2016

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I would be first in line at my polling station to vote for Nolo.  I'd be camped out from the night before for the chance to do so.
 

The membership here would just call him lying nolo and vote for a gun grabbing dem



qft
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Shit, I''ll make it for you, for free.  I'll even make it 8' tall.

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Can we get a table next to theirs at the NRA convention?  I'll pay to frame a 6' tall copy of the request.


Shit, I''ll make it for you, for free.  I'll even make it 8' tall.


The sign just got  24 inches higher.
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Nolo 2016

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I would be first in line at my polling station to vote for Nolo.  I'd be camped out from the night before for the chance to do so.
 

The membership here would just call him lying nolo and vote for a gun grabbing dem



qft

Yup.
Link Posted: 5/7/2016 2:14:39 PM EDT
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Would that make you.....self serving? /trollface
Link Posted: 5/7/2016 2:20:53 PM EDT
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God no, they'd get Kim Kardashian to run against him and somehow win, and the whole affair would do nothing but waste his litigation time.

I say Nolo for SCOTUS.
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God no, they'd get Kim Kardashian to run against him and somehow win, and the whole affair would do nothing but waste his litigation time.



I say Nolo for SCOTUS.
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Subbed for outcome. Nolo for President?




God no, they'd get Kim Kardashian to run against him and somehow win, and the whole affair would do nothing but waste his litigation time.



I say Nolo for SCOTUS.
I'd giggle my ass off when Justice Nolo had to take a couple days off from hearing cases to attend a Cola Warrior.



 
Link Posted: 5/7/2016 2:58:05 PM EDT
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This gon' be good.
Link Posted: 5/7/2016 3:14:54 PM EDT
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I missed the last thread.  Is this just a shill compny for the AtF to ask themselves for decisions?
Link Posted: 5/7/2016 3:16:05 PM EDT
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In on 3. Sigh
Link Posted: 5/7/2016 3:17:33 PM EDT
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Out Standing!!  Tag for info.
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sometimes.
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Never seen "warm regards" before.

Do you use that often?


sometimes.


LOL
Link Posted: 5/7/2016 3:22:27 PM EDT
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So in!
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In.
Link Posted: 5/7/2016 3:30:27 PM EDT
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Oh my!  
Link Posted: 5/7/2016 3:37:04 PM EDT
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A group of people who invested in NFA (MGs) who support the ATF and the NFA so that they can protect their special status, and by proxy, their investments.

They also don't think that commoners should have easy access to NFA stuff...only the "right people."
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Cliffs noted on who nfatca is and what they're all about?


A group of people who invested in NFA (MGs) who support the ATF and the NFA so that they can protect their special status, and by proxy, their investments.

They also don't think that commoners should have easy access to NFA stuff...only the "right people."


Well then, fuck those guys.
Link Posted: 5/7/2016 3:45:59 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/7/2016 4:00:38 PM EDT
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In, break it off in them!

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God no, they'd get Kim Kardashian to run against him and somehow win, and the whole affair would do nothing but waste his litigation time.

I say Nolo for SCOTUS.
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Subbed for outcome. Nolo for President?


God no, they'd get Kim Kardashian to run against him and somehow win, and the whole affair would do nothing but waste his litigation time.

I say Nolo for SCOTUS.

Yes. Hahaha
Link Posted: 5/7/2016 4:17:32 PM EDT
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Someone needs to post that on Folloders Facebook page.
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ATTN: Disclosure Division, Room 4E.301Via Electronic Mail and Facsimile
99 New York Avenue, NE
Washington, DC 20226
Email: [email protected]
Fax: (202) 648-9619

RE: Freedom of Information Act Request

To whom this may concern:

Pursuant to the Freedom of Information Act (5 U.S.C. § 552), the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco Firearms and Explosives is requested to the following within twenty (20) business days.  I represent Len Savage in this request.  It is unknown to this Requester where electronic mail, correspondence, and other documents and/or petitions requested are stored.
Please provide the following information:

1)Please provide any and all documents, emails, correspondence, petitions for rulemaking and communications from and/or to the National Firearms Act Trade & Collectors Association (“NFATCA”) from 2000 to present;

2)Please provide any and all documents, emails, correspondence, petitions for rulemaking and communications from and/or to John Brown, President of NFATCA, from 2000 to present;

3)Please provide any and all documents, emails, correspondence, petitions for rulemaking and communications from and/or to Curt Wolf, Vice President of NFATCA, from 2000 to present;

4)Please provide any and all documents, emails, correspondence, petitions for rulemaking and communications from and/or to Jeff Folloder, Executive Director of NFATCA, from 2000 to present;

5)Please provide any and all documents, emails, correspondence, petitions for rulemaking and communications from and/or to Robert Landies, Board Member of NFATCA, from 2000 to present;

6)Please provide any and all documents, emails, correspondence, petitions for rulemaking and communications from and/or to Wayne Weber, Board Member of NFATCA, from 2000 to present;

7)Please provide any and all documents, emails, correspondence, petitions for rulemaking and communications from and/or to Robert Segel, Board Member of NFATCA, from 2000 to present; and

8)Please provide any and all documents, emails, correspondence, petitions for rulemaking and communications from and/or to Dan Shea, prior Board Member of NFATCA, from 2000 to present.

The Category of Requester is “All Other Requesters” and because this is a matter of great public interest; I request that the fee is waived.  If the fee is not waived, my client will pay up to $100 for this request.  Should the fee for this request exceed $100, please let me know in advance.  I look forward to receiving the requested documents and a full fee waiver within twenty business days.
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Is that HK's Wayne Weber?

EDIT: Yes it is.

http://www.nfatca.org/about.htm

Industry Folks:

•Robert Landies - Ohio Ordnance Works
•Wayne Weber - Heckler & Koch USA
•Robert Segel - Small Arms Review
Link Posted: 5/7/2016 4:27:32 PM EDT
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Is that HK's Wayne Weber?

EDIT: Yes it is.

http://www.nfatca.org/about.htm

Industry Folks:

•Robert Landies - Ohio Ordnance Works
•Wayne Weber - Heckler & Koch USA
•Robert Segel - Small Arms Review
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ATTN: Disclosure Division, Room 4E.301Via Electronic Mail and Facsimile
99 New York Avenue, NE
Washington, DC 20226
Email: [email protected]
Fax: (202) 648-9619

RE: Freedom of Information Act Request

To whom this may concern:

Pursuant to the Freedom of Information Act (5 U.S.C. § 552), the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco Firearms and Explosives is requested to the following within twenty (20) business days.  I represent Len Savage in this request.  It is unknown to this Requester where electronic mail, correspondence, and other documents and/or petitions requested are stored.
Please provide the following information:

1)Please provide any and all documents, emails, correspondence, petitions for rulemaking and communications from and/or to the National Firearms Act Trade & Collectors Association (“NFATCA”) from 2000 to present;

2)Please provide any and all documents, emails, correspondence, petitions for rulemaking and communications from and/or to John Brown, President of NFATCA, from 2000 to present;

3)Please provide any and all documents, emails, correspondence, petitions for rulemaking and communications from and/or to Curt Wolf, Vice President of NFATCA, from 2000 to present;

4)Please provide any and all documents, emails, correspondence, petitions for rulemaking and communications from and/or to Jeff Folloder, Executive Director of NFATCA, from 2000 to present;

5)Please provide any and all documents, emails, correspondence, petitions for rulemaking and communications from and/or to Robert Landies, Board Member of NFATCA, from 2000 to present;

6)Please provide any and all documents, emails, correspondence, petitions for rulemaking and communications from and/or to Wayne Weber, Board Member of NFATCA, from 2000 to present;

7)Please provide any and all documents, emails, correspondence, petitions for rulemaking and communications from and/or to Robert Segel, Board Member of NFATCA, from 2000 to present; and

8)Please provide any and all documents, emails, correspondence, petitions for rulemaking and communications from and/or to Dan Shea, prior Board Member of NFATCA, from 2000 to present.

The Category of Requester is “All Other Requesters” and because this is a matter of great public interest; I request that the fee is waived.  If the fee is not waived, my client will pay up to $100 for this request.  Should the fee for this request exceed $100, please let me know in advance.  I look forward to receiving the requested documents and a full fee waiver within twenty business days.
Warm regards,


Is that HK's Wayne Weber?

EDIT: Yes it is.

http://www.nfatca.org/about.htm

Industry Folks:

•Robert Landies - Ohio Ordnance Works
•Wayne Weber - Heckler & Koch USA
•Robert Segel - Small Arms Review



One and the same .


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Link Posted: 5/7/2016 4:28:17 PM EDT
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Fuck the Nfatca. Nolo 2016.

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I asked the same thing. Waiting for Nolo to reply.
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Did I make it on page three?
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A group of people who invested in NFA (MGs) who support the ATF and the NFA so that they can protect their special status, and by proxy, their investments.

They also don't think that commoners should have easy access to NFA stuff...only the "right people."
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Cliffs noted on who nfatca is and what they're all about?


A group of people who invested in NFA (MGs) who support the ATF and the NFA so that they can protect their special status, and by proxy, their investments.

They also don't think that commoners should have easy access to NFA stuff...only the "right people."



How do we destroy them, I want to see the memebers of NFATCA pennyless on the street corner sucking dick for money.
That line from saving private Ryan comes to mind, "don't shoot let 'em burn".

I hate elitest.

Can we donate money to the cause?
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How do we destroy them, I want to see the memebers of NFATCA pennyless on the street corner sucking dick for money.
That line from saving private Ryan comes to mind, "don't shoot let 'em burn".

I hate elitest.

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You can donate to The Heller Foundation to support the Hollis case.
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Do you really expect to get the requested documents within 20 days?
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Struggle snuggles don't start with the other party cooperating.
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FOIA actually has a legally mandated response period, and it's not very long.

Edit:  I really dislike that group.  Their mission in life is to deny anyone without lots of $ entry into NFA land, and to me....that flies in the face of freedom.

Additionally, since they rely on the NFA and resulting difficulty that they support....they protect their investments, which shouldn't be investments because they shouldn't be worth what they are.

A bunch of bologna, and may fuck be upon the NFATCA.
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FOIA actually has a legally mandated response period, and it's not very long.

Edit:  I really dislike that group.  Their mission in life is to deny anyone without lots of $ entry into NFA land, and to me....that flies in the face of freedom.

Additionally, since they rely on the NFA and resulting difficulty that they support....they protect their investments, which shouldn't be investments because they shouldn't be worth what they are.

A bunch of bologna, and may fuck be upon the NFATCA.



All while Parroting lines about 'Freedom, and RKBA"
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Sometimes it only takes the requester filing suit to get the government agency off its ass. Then it winds up at the top of the queue. Though, you may still wind up suing if they withhold various documents under one of the FOIA exemptions when that exemption shouldn't (or at least arguably shouldn't) apply.

Or they may pull the BS that the State Dept. did in the initial Judicial Watch FOIA requests for Hillary's emails: claim that after a search they found no documents responsive to the request (while knowing that they were stored elsewhere).
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Court order.  Lots of wasted time.  Etc.  


So business as usual.



Sometimes it only takes the requester filing suit to get the government agency off its ass. Then it winds up at the top of the queue. Though, you may still wind up suing if they withhold various documents under one of the FOIA exemptions when that exemption shouldn't (or at least arguably shouldn't) apply.

Or they may pull the BS that the State Dept. did in the initial Judicial Watch FOIA requests for Hillary's emails: claim that after a search they found no documents responsive to the request (while knowing that they were stored elsewhere).


Thanks.

That's what I'm worried most agencies would do in just about any case these days.  

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