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Posted: 5/12/2003 2:13:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/12/2003 2:19:09 PM EDT by Orion_Shall_Rise]
53 democratic local housemembers have been ordered arrested and brough to chambers. They cliam to have left the state :( edited cause stupid interactive sites dont link well arggg heres another site [url] http://www.nj.com/newsflash/national/index.ssf?/base/national-2/1052755446204480.xml[/url]
Link Posted: 5/12/2003 2:17:24 PM EDT
I wanna help. How do I get a job as an LEO in Texas real quick. I'ld love to arrest a couple of democraps.
Link Posted: 5/12/2003 2:18:04 PM EDT
AUSTIN -- Outnumbered by House Republicans determined to pass a congressional redistricting bill, all but a few Democrats went into hiding today to keep the House from meeting. The House's GOP leader responded by ordering state troopers to find and arrest the missing lawmakers. The House walkout not only blocked the redistricting bill but also action on all other bills on the calendar. The House cannot convene without at least two-thirds of the membership, or 100 members, present on the House floor under legislative rules. Republican House Speaker Tom Craddick locked down the House chamber so that lawmakers already present could not leave, then he expressed his disgust with the Democrats. "It is a disgrace to run and hide," Craddick said. After the roll call, he ordered that missing lawmakers be arrested and brought back to the chamber. House Democrats said they were taking a stand for fair treatment of the minority party. They blamed U.S. House Majority Leader Tom Delay, R-Sugar Land, for pushing the Texas House to take up redistricting against the wishes of Democrats and some GOP state lawmakers. "We refuse to participate in an inherently unfair process that slams the door of opportunity in the face of Texas voters," they said in a statement read by state Sen. Rodney Ellis, D-Houston. The crisis erupted this morning when, less than 30 minutes before the Texas House was due to convene, the Democrats told the House leadership in letters that they would be absent. They asked the parliamentarian to lock their voting machines until they returned. "I do not know where they are," said Tamara Bell, chief of staff for House Democratic Caucus Chairman Jim Dunnam. Only three Democrats remained; all are Craddick allies whom fellow Democrats have dubbed "cross dressers." Rep. Ron Wilson of Houston, one of the three House Democrats who showed up today, said, "My whole philosophy is if you're going to impact on this process, you've got to be here." Wilson is chairman of the powerful Ways and Means Committee. At least one other Democrat -- Rep. Sylvester Turner of Houston -- was on his way to Austin, Craddick said. The House doorkeeper kept watch over the chamber's front door, its historic brass lock turned shut. Inside, Republicans lobbed toy balls, whistled the Star Spangled Banner and dined on white-linen covered tables. Several Republicans complained that they never used such drastic measure when the GOP was the minority party. More than 100 people, however, gathered in the rain outside the Capitol to rally in support of the Democratic walkout. Carrying signs that read "Tom Delay, Go Away," "Don't tread on Travis" and "Sieg heil, Tom Delay," they cheered as state senators spoke in support of the walkout. The lawmakers had prepared for the trip Sunday night and packed clothes to allow them to stay away for four days, a legislative source told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity. That would put them past the deadline for preliminary passage of major pending bills that have been termed a priority by the Republican-controlled Legislature. "We're leaving, and we'll stay gone 'til Thursday," one member from South Texas, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told the San Antonio Express-News. The latest group of quorum-busters planned to leave the state to avoid having state police detain them and forcibly return them to the House floor, if necessary. "DPS or the Rangers can't exactly come get us if we are outside of Texas," said one legislator. Several sources said some of the members were to board a plane leaving from a Central Texas airport to rural Oklahoma. A separate group would fly to New Mexico, while a third group left by bus for New Mexico, according to the sources. The breaking of a quorum hasn't been used in more than two decades as a parliamentary maneuver, officials said. The Democratic walkout to block redistricting is reminiscent of the 1979 "Killer Bees" walkout in the Texas Senate. Twelve Democratic senators went into hiding to break the Senate quorum. By doing so, they killed a bill to move the Texas primary date so it would benefit former Gov. John Connally's Republican presidential bid in 1980. Carlos Truan, one of the original Senate "Killer Bees," said such drastic tactics aren't for the faint of heart. "They better be prepared to pay the political consequences for their actions, because there will be a hell of a price to pay," said Truan of Corpus Christi, who no longer serves in the Senate. "Breaking a quorum is a very, very major thing." Craddick called the Democrats in hiding today the "Chicken D's." The proposed redistricting bill is being pushed by DeLay, who says the congressional districts should reflect Texas voting patterns that have resulted in GOP control of the Legislature and every statewide office. Democrats currently have a 17-15 majority in the state's congressional delegation. The redistricting plan before the House would allow Republicans to take four to seven of those seats away from Democrats in the next elections. Craddick spokesman Bob Richter said a special legislative session would have to be held immediately after the regular session ends June 2. Houston Chronicle reporter R.G. Ratcliffe and the Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Link Posted: 5/12/2003 2:24:34 PM EDT
The lawmakers had prepared for the trip Sunday night and packed clothes to allow them to stay away for four days, a legislative source told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity. That would put them past the deadline for preliminary passage of major pending bills that have been termed a priority by the Republican-controlled Legislature. "We're leaving, and we'll stay gone 'til Thursday," one member from South Texas, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told the San Antonio Express-News. The latest group of quorum-busters planned to leave the state to avoid having state police detain them and forcibly return them to the House floor, if necessary. "DPS or the Rangers can't exactly come get us if we are outside of Texas," said one legislator. Several sources said some of the members were to board a plane leaving from a Central Texas airport to rural Oklahoma. A separate group would fly to New Mexico, while a third group left by bus for New Mexico, according to the sources.
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OMFG! How insane can you get. I can understand being pissed off that you are in the minority and can't get your way, but this is beyond the limit. It's like an angry child threating to run away from home if they don't get their way. Anyone need any more examples of how totally fvked up the Democratic party has become?
Link Posted: 5/12/2003 3:20:55 PM EDT
No matter what their party, this is a joke! They should all be fined and forced to do community service AT LEAST. They took the oath of office, and worked in service of the community. Reguardless of their reason, they just violated their oath and the dignity of their office. I think they should be barred from re-election, and removed from office as soon as possible. If any of us did this at a job, we would be fired. They are our servants..they should be under the same conditions.
Link Posted: 5/12/2003 3:38:42 PM EDT
[b]GREAT JUMPIN' HORNY-TOADS! It's Huntin' Season![/b] [img]http://www.dragg.net/users/pennywitt/ysam/ysam10.gif[/img]
Link Posted: 5/12/2003 3:40:53 PM EDT
Texans run and hide? Say it ain't so!
Link Posted: 5/12/2003 3:43:09 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/12/2003 3:48:40 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/12/2003 4:01:00 PM EDT
Walking out - cowardly - whatever the party. Gerrymandering - cowardly - whatever the party. What's wrong w/ using big, even square grids for districting?
Link Posted: 5/12/2003 4:25:53 PM EDT
No minority party likes redistricting. They always get screwed. But this is just freaking childish. Did they think the legislature would just give up and let this slide, and allow the Democrats back like nothing had happened?
Link Posted: 5/12/2003 4:29:16 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/12/2003 4:30:15 PM EDT
[url]http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/metropolitan/1906501[/url] May 12, 2003, 3:38PM What they're saying about Democrats' walkout Associated Press "We did not choose our path, Tom DeLay did. We are ready to stand on the House floor and work day and night to deal with real issues facing Texas families." -- Missing Democrats in a statement read by state Sen. Rodney Ellis, D-Houston. ------ "They are injecting chaos into what should be an orderly process. They are standing up their own constituents...They are spoiling the day for school children who are making a once-in-a-lifetime visit to the state Capitol with their class, and would like be recognized by their hometown lawmaker." -- House Speaker Tom Craddick, R-Midland. ------ "In the House, members have displayed courage in doing what they have done to deflect tyranny of the majority." -- State Sen. Eliot Shapleigh, D-El Paso. ------ "It's not going to cause a total meltdown (of) the Democratic process. ...This is kind of a little temper tantrum. That's allowed in Democracy." -- U.S. Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas. ------ "Some people, the other side if you will, will call these individuals obstructionists. They are strong-willed patriots. They are unsubmissive. We have a system of checks and balances." -- State Sen. Gonzalo Barrientos, D-Austin. ------ "Lawmakers have been elected by their constituents to fight for them in the legislative arena of ideas, but the Democrats have abandoned their posts and run from their place of responsibility. Democrats' actions are by no means heroic; they are the very definition of cowardice." -- Texas Republican Party Chairwoman Susan Weddington. ------ "The 'Dirty 30' had nothing over the 'Filthy 50,' who are standing up for the principle that in the Texas Legislature, the majority does not steamroll the minority without an orderly, collegial process that allows all sides to be heard." -- Joe D. Gunn, president of the Texas AFL-CIO. ------ "I'm not interested in negotiating." -- Craddick.
Link Posted: 5/12/2003 4:44:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/12/2003 4:52:22 PM EDT by Andreuha]
Now if only we could get the democrats to run off like that in Washington (DC)... And if it were OK to vote on legislation with only remaining members.... I could imagine: " All NOT in favor of adding an amendment repealing all, and permenantly prohibiting all and any gun-control laws; repeallable only by unanimous vote, say "aye".... *crickets chirping* "
Link Posted: 5/12/2003 4:56:02 PM EDT
And if it were OK to vote on legislation with only remaining members.... "
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well if they found just enough to make a qorum Republicans woul dhave a 88 to 12 majority and could do all kinds of good things.......
Link Posted: 5/12/2003 5:21:56 PM EDT
The problem is the the Democrats have had a stranglehold over state and county government in Texas since the Reconstruction. For the last decade, Republicans have overwhelmingly dominated state elections, and have taken many counties back, as traditionally conservative Texas voters finally realized how little they had in common with the Democrats who have been lording it over us for the last Century or so. The current issues which brought this to a head are the budget and redistricting. Texas has a statewide budget shortfall because of the sluggish economy. The Democrats want new taxes, and maybe even an income tax (which would get them strung up as horse thieves in alot of the state). The Republicans want to spend alot less money and not raise taxes. The Democrats still have more seats in the US Congress than the Republicans, mainly because of their Gerrymandered Districts, even though Republicans have won most of the recent statewide races and are the majority party in Texas. My county, one of the fastest growing in the country and in the top 10 or so population wise in the state, only got our own (Republican)congressman because of the last census. The Republicans, since they are in charge now, are going to redistrict and give the Democrats a taste of their own medicine. At key issue are the elimination of some Democrat-dominated districts, particularly that of rabid liberal anti-war frigging communist Lloyd Dogget of Austin. His District would get chopped, along with some other commie ones, to create four districts that Republicans would win. I don't care if this "silences" the socialists. They don't represent anyone in Texas except for unshaven UT grad students, Earth First vegan militant lesbians and transvestite homless drug addicts off of 6th Street. Screw them. I want Republicans representing me. I could give a crap about endangered salamanders, transgender issues, "industrial" hemp use, the right of unwed Palestinian lesbians to government-funded abortions and the frigging environmentally racist hole in the frigging ozone layer.
Link Posted: 5/12/2003 5:39:48 PM EDT
Ahh, a pleasant thought. An unemployed Doggett panhandling on Congress/Riverside standing next to Leslie.
Link Posted: 5/12/2003 5:55:29 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Airwolf: "In the House, members have displayed courage in doing what they have done to deflect tyranny of the majority." -- State Sen. Eliot Shapleigh, D-El Paso.
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What about when Dems were the majority? was that "Tyranny"? This is what Dems consider courage? I guess they have a different definition for that word than I do.
Link Posted: 5/12/2003 6:11:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/12/2003 6:15:19 PM EDT by Bobby_the_Hun]
I got a Democrat GOVERNOR here that needs to be ARRESTED.Send your TEXAS TROOPERS UP HERE! [pissed]
Link Posted: 5/12/2003 6:13:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/12/2003 6:14:42 PM EDT by RustyTX]
Link Posted: 5/12/2003 6:18:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/12/2003 6:19:05 PM EDT by Andreuha]
Your not alone there, Bobby_the_Hun, Here in NYC, our democrats deserve to be exhiled.
Link Posted: 5/12/2003 6:34:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/12/2003 6:36:24 PM EDT by Bobby_the_Hun]
Originally Posted By Andreuha: Your not alone there, Bobby_the_Hun, Here in NYC, our democrats deserve to be exhiled.
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OMG, you got Hilary.I'm still amazed she won the election.[rolleyes]
Link Posted: 5/12/2003 7:04:05 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/12/2003 7:42:01 PM EDT
Well heck, they are opposed to gerrymandered districts? I NEVER heard one peep out of them when they had the majority and the Republicans were getting their throats cut on redistricting. "Tyranny of the majority", is another name for "democracy". What some of my fellow Texans have found out is that to be the house slaves of the Dims is VERY costly in terms of freedom and dignity. I am an American born and raised but my folks crossed the Rio Grande (not the "Rio Bravo") many moons ago, just to escape the the tyrranical Mex govt. My grandmother, God rest her soul, crossed to Laredo with bullets chasing her, fired by Mexican bandits during the 2nd or 3rd Mexican revolution. My people are Americans and the Democrats have marginilized us and our ambitions for too long. They want to make colored folks out of us. Just look at the shafting the poor blacks have taken at the hands of their political masters: 70-80% out of wedlock birthrate, anywhere from a third to half of all black males with a criminal record, how many black children are sacrificed on Satans altar of "choice"!!!!! And they want us to be like them. F....CK them!!! I hope their idiotic antics get them what they deserve.
Link Posted: 5/12/2003 11:43:18 PM EDT
Originally Posted By natez: . I don't care if this "silences" the socialists. They don't represent anyone in Texas except for unshaven UT grad students, Earth First vegan militant lesbians and transvestite homless drug addicts off of 6th Street.
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[b]Leslie for mayor!!![/b]
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 4:48:33 AM EDT
So have those Rangers found anyone yet? --LS
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 6:02:17 AM EDT
Yah know, if you or I were to fail to show up for work like that, we would be FIRED. So that's what should happen to those democratic cry babies. Cry babyism and temper tantrums seem to be going around the Democratic party these days. Can't get your way? Then obstruct the process as long as possible.
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