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Posted: 5/5/2003 9:14:27 PM EDT
i've seen many people bashing wal-mart here. i know there are some idiots that work there. but that is true with any large chain store. give me other reasons.
Link Posted: 5/5/2003 9:16:15 PM EDT
Because wal-mart seems to be run by commies. Target's cool. Never have any problems there.
Link Posted: 5/5/2003 9:17:20 PM EDT
95% of their merchandise is made in Red China, even the American flags. That's it for me.
Link Posted: 5/5/2003 9:22:03 PM EDT
I don't hate Wal-Mart, but I do hate that they always put the gun store waaaaaaaay in the back, instead of the front, which keeps me from getting in,& out quickly.[:D]
Link Posted: 5/5/2003 9:26:13 PM EDT
95% of their merchandise is made in Red China, even the American flags. That's it for me.
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show me a store that isn't like that anymore.
Link Posted: 5/5/2003 9:26:43 PM EDT
I hate those fucking greeters!
Link Posted: 5/5/2003 9:33:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/5/2003 9:33:40 PM EDT by SteyrAUG]
For me it is the reason I told you on the other thread. Following 9-11 ALL of my local Wal Marts suspended sales of firearms and ammunition to prevent "panic buying." That is K Mart style anti gun bullshit. This is NOT something I read on the internet or heard from my cousin or that they did someplace else. This is something "I" saw for myself and was also reported on our local news. "I" and several local gun owners were really, really pissed off when they did it. Does that answer your question?
Link Posted: 5/5/2003 9:34:13 PM EDT
I hate those fucking greeters!
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ok...i agree with you there good reason #1
Link Posted: 5/5/2003 9:37:59 PM EDT
Originally Posted By NME: Because wal-mart seems to be run by commies. Target's cool. Never have any problems there.
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And Target is SOOO convenient when you need to pick up a box of 9mm on your way to the range on a Sunday when all the gun stores are closed. Oh wait, now I remember Walmart is the ONLY chain store that sells guns and ammo.
Link Posted: 5/5/2003 9:39:58 PM EDT
then boycott your local wal-mart. don't tell someone else, that was not affected by your local dumbass store managers, to boycott wal-mart. this was not a company wide policy. it was a couple idiots doing something stupid. i didn't know that Kmart stopped selling firearms. just handguns and handgun ammo. which i think is bullshit. oh yeah i just made myself think of good reason #2 wal-mart stopped selling handguns. i almost quit over that incident.
Link Posted: 5/5/2003 9:40:10 PM EDT
Because they won't let the union come in and run them out of business.
Link Posted: 5/5/2003 9:41:03 PM EDT
So as to not hijack the other thread...
Quoted by Kooter: if your local stores did it, then boycott your local stores. that was not a company wide policy, just a couple of dumbass store managers. did you call the home office? they would have straightened those stores out right away.
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1. It is not my responsibility to see if it is local or nationwide. Wal Mart (the store) decided to suspend sales, so fuck 'em. Fuck ALL of them. 2. Nobody does shit like this without permission. And if they DID, Wal Mart did NOTHING to account for it. So Fuck 'em, fuck all of them. 3. Did the Home Office do anything to prevent something like this from happening? If they even tried (and I doubt they did) they failed and are acccountable. So fuck 'em, fuck all of them. 4. Finally if YOUR Wal Mart did NOT do it, I might be inclined to give them a pass. BUT I'm not gonna drive to KY to fucking shop. ALL my local Wal Marts did this to the local firearm community. And we all remember and shop accordingly.
Link Posted: 5/5/2003 9:43:56 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/5/2003 9:44:11 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Kar98: 95% of their merchandise is made in Red China, even the American flags. That's it for me.
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and that's been true since at least 1991
Link Posted: 5/5/2003 9:47:49 PM EDT
You wanted links: [url]http://www.brassroots.org/azlist.htm[/url] Arizona Businesses and Public Establishments that are Unfriendly to our Right to Carry Firearms for Self-Defense [i]Dear prospective felon: Be advised that we have disarmed all citizens entering this store, so that you may rape and pillage without fearing for your personal safety. We just want to make your life safer, and easier. Please do advise all your acquaintances with predisposition to dereliction and crime of this. Thank you. - The Management[/i] Glendale Arrowhead Mall Burlington Coat Factory City parks Libraries [b]Wal-mart (West Bell Rd.) [/b] Tempe Arizona Mills Fry's Electronics Tempe Parks [b]Wal-mart [/b] Tucson Arizona Daily Star (including Starnet) Carl's Jr (6301 E. Grant Rd.) City parks Costco (on Grant Rd. and Thornydale Rd.) DM Federal Credit Union Elcon Mall Foothills Mall Macy's (Tucson Mall, Park Mall) Tucson Citizen Tucson Mall (Note: To add insult to injury, their signs wrongly quote ARS 13-3102, which requires only that weapons be checked upon request while you are there, not prohibited altogether.) Tuesday Morning (6274 E. Grant Rd.) Village Inn (6635 E. Grant Rd.) Note: Firearms prohibited only on the nightshift [b]Wal-mart (Valencia and Midvale) [/b] Wells Fargo Bank (Campbell near Glenn) Green Valley Bashas' [b]Wal-Mart [/b] Seeing a pattern.
Link Posted: 5/5/2003 9:49:39 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Kooter: then boycott your local wal-mart. don't tell someone else, that was not affected by your local dumbass store managers, to boycott wal-mart. this was not a company wide policy. it was a couple idiots doing something stupid. i didn't know that Kmart stopped selling firearms. just handguns and handgun ammo. which i think is bullshit. oh yeah i just made myself think of good reason #2 wal-mart stopped selling handguns. i almost quit over that incident.
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When'd they sell handguns?
Link Posted: 5/5/2003 9:50:19 PM EDT
Wal Mart (the store) decided to suspend sales, so fuck 'em. Fuck ALL of them
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wrong. the store manager, or more likely the district manager since it happened at many of your local stores, decided to suspend sales. so fuck him.
2. Nobody does shit like this without permission. And if they DID, Wal Mart did NOTHING to account for it. So Fuck 'em, fuck all of them
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wrong. people do shit all the time without getting permission. it is called taking initiative. sometimes they are wrong. how do you know whether home office did anything or not? did you follow up?
ALL my local Wal Marts did this to the local firearm community. And we all remember and shop accordingly
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i would be doing the same as you are if my local wal-marts, or any store for that matter, did this.
Link Posted: 5/5/2003 9:54:13 PM EDT
That's why you stock up when the real stores are open. At least Target seems to be CLEAN and has relatively nonconfrontational people working for them...Unlike Wal-Mart when the last time I went there, a midget security guard followed me around the store because I looked "dangerous".
Link Posted: 5/5/2003 9:57:08 PM EDT
Originally Posted By NME: Because wal-mart seems to be run by commies. Target's cool. Never have any problems there.
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Umm.. you're wack. Target is a global company with Euro peacenick ties that are part of the One World Order. If they didn't sell better quality kids clothes so cheap, I wouldn't let my wife within 2 miles of that store. And If that damn Wal-mart didn't sell ammo so easily, I wouldn't shop there either (except for the groceries - which means that the meat department and the produce department are better than the freakin' Kroger) Grow up!
Link Posted: 5/5/2003 9:57:21 PM EDT
according to wal-marts firearm procedures manual. i'm paraphrasing cause i don't have it here in front of me. ...many states have recently enacted laws regarding personal carrying of concealed firearms. some states allow no carry signs to be placed in businesses. we have been approached to see if we will place these signs in our stores. we have decided not to... that's not exact words, but i can get the book and copy it and bring it home for later posting. if there is a store not allowing people to carry, then they are against company policy. some states won't let you carry if they sell alcohol, that may be the case in arizona, i don't know. if this is not the case, then has the home office been informed? if not, i'll call them personally.
Link Posted: 5/5/2003 10:04:12 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Kooter: wrong. the store manager, or more likely the district manager since it happened at many of your local stores, decided to suspend sales. so fuck him.
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Yup, fuck em all. And like I said I'm not gonna be shopping in KY so it don't matter.
Originally Posted By Kooter: wrong. people do shit all the time without getting permission. it is called taking initiative. sometimes they are wrong. how do you know whether home office did anything or not? did you follow up?
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Not MY job. If Wal Mart was serious about this shit, it would NOT have happened. They did nothing to prevent it or account for it after the fact. Fuck them all.
Originally Posted By Kooter: i would be doing the same as you are if my local wal-marts, or any store for that matter, did this.
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And we are.
Link Posted: 5/5/2003 10:08:52 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Kooter: according to wal-marts firearm procedures manual. i'm paraphrasing cause i don't have it here in front of me. ...many states have recently enacted laws regarding personal carrying of concealed firearms. some states allow no carry signs to be placed in businesses. we have been approached to see if we will place these signs in our stores. we have decided not to... that's not exact words, but i can get the book and copy it and bring it home for later posting. if there is a store not allowing people to carry, then they are against company policy. some states won't let you carry if they sell alcohol, that may be the case in arizona, i don't know. if this is not the case, then has the home office been informed? if not, i'll call them personally.
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Let me help you out Kooter. You live in Kentucky. It is populated by mostly reasonable people. I'll bet even KY democrats are mostly OK. Being in the heart of "gun country" you don't have a realistic view of Wal Mart as the rest of the nation knows it. Now to be fair, Wal Mart has "on occassion" stuck to their guns and decided to be "pro gun" on a few occassions. But we in the rest of the country have seen it at it's worse and are mostly not interested. I bet your Wal Marts are even clean and filled with the sound of spoken English.
Link Posted: 5/5/2003 10:09:06 PM EDT
Originally Posted By xanadu:
Originally Posted By NME: Because wal-mart seems to be run by commies. Target's cool. Never have any problems there.
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Umm.. you're wack. Target is a global company with Euro peacenick ties that are part of the One World Order. If they didn't sell better quality kids clothes so cheap, I wouldn't let my wife within 2 miles of that store. And If that damn Wal-mart didn't sell ammo so easily, I wouldn't shop there either (except for the groceries - which means that the meat department and the produce department are better than the freakin' Kroger) Grow up!
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So you're saying that Wal-Mart's better? On a personal level, not withstanding affiliation of the top levels in charge, Target kicks Wal-Mart's ass. And I'd rather buy from foreign commies than commies from my own country.
Link Posted: 5/5/2003 10:14:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/5/2003 10:22:35 PM EDT by Dave_A]
My only complaints about Wal Mart are: 1) The one near me no longer sells pistol ammo, or guns of any kind for 'security reasons' (The area surrounding said wal-mart could best be described as 'high crime'. Where I live is a nice neighborhood, but 5 min away (inside Milwaukee itself) is another story). They have rifle ammo, but I have no use for rifle ammo from walmart. 2) On Christmas Eve I was there to buy a last-minute gift. The freakin electronics clerk asked me for ID to use my Mastercard (Credit, not Checkcard). I don't normally carry ID, since I never write checks. So he wouldn't let me buy the product. I had the feeling that if I tried to take it up front to the main check out he would have had me removed (the guy was being a prick)... Fortunately, I have been able to charge stuff after that (oil & other car-maintanance supplies) without being hassled. I now buy my car supplies FROM Wal Mart because of being hassled for ID by a Checker Auto employee at the place I used to go to... The reason for a charge card is to avoid the hassle that comes with writing paper checks...
Link Posted: 5/5/2003 10:21:12 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Kar98: 95% of their merchandise is made in Red China, even the American flags. That's it for me.
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The flags at the Duarte, Calif Wal-Mart are made in the USA. But, they don't have enough checkers working, I only go there early on Saturday or Sunday morning when the store opens, otherwise its packed. I had a case of shopping cart rage with a little old lady. She asked don't you let woman go(check out) first?" I told that bitch, "I let ladies go first."
Link Posted: 5/5/2003 10:25:45 PM EDT
I don't hate Wallmart, but I'd feel better if they weren't around. AB
Link Posted: 5/5/2003 10:41:06 PM EDT
1. Wal-Mart is overproliferated with "workers" with a collective I.Q. of 40 and savages who speak no English or 4th grade English at best, called customers. -and- 2. The stores are in squalor no matter what time it is.
Link Posted: 5/5/2003 10:46:59 PM EDT
Originally Posted By StevenTMc: Because they won't let the union come in and run them out of business.
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Run a billion dollar company out of business by paying a livable wage and health benefits?
Link Posted: 5/5/2003 11:41:54 PM EDT
I like Wal-Mart. As was mentioned, it's the place to go on Sunday when all the other gunshops are closed. I've never had a problem there.
Link Posted: 5/5/2003 11:43:27 PM EDT
[b]"ATTENTION ALL ASSOCIATES, CODE 60"[/b] WTF is that? Stockboy down?
Link Posted: 5/6/2003 12:12:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/6/2003 12:13:06 AM EDT by SeaDweller]
What about SuperK? Go in there and it looks look like a freaking gangsta's paradise. Anyone ever walk up on one of those WallyWorld super pep rallies? I heard all this noise going on and said, "WTF"?
Link Posted: 5/6/2003 12:19:08 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Kooter: i just made myself think of good reason #2 wal-mart stopped selling handguns. i almost quit over that incident.
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All the Wal-Mart stores up in my area sell handguns ...
Link Posted: 5/6/2003 12:22:50 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/6/2003 2:34:44 AM EDT
When'd they sell handguns?
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Wal-Fart carried handguns as part of their regular firearms inventory up until about 1991. They're still offered as special order items, but good luck getting someone in Wal-Fart to act on that. I hate the bastards due to their predatory pricing. They'll move into a community, undercut and eliminate the competition, then jack the prices back up, or cease carrying a product or product line completely.
Link Posted: 5/6/2003 3:04:57 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/6/2003 3:12:51 AM EDT
Originally Posted By 82ndAbn: I stay away from Wally World because I'm not yet fluent in Spanish.
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DOH!!!!!!! Have you ever been to Wally Mart in Mississippi? I have a hard time translating jive or severe southern beaten up language. I thought I was going to have to hire an interpreter the first time I went to the Wally Mart.[:D]
Link Posted: 5/6/2003 3:26:44 AM EDT
Everytime I go there the lines are fricken miles long and I always get stuck behind someone buying clothes that don't have a price tag or bar code.
Link Posted: 5/6/2003 6:22:26 AM EDT
i have neer been in a wal mart that had a reasonably attractive female employee.
Link Posted: 5/6/2003 6:42:57 AM EDT
Wal-Fart carried handguns as part of their regular firearms inventory up until about 1991. They're still offered as special order items, but good luck getting someone in Wal-Fart to act on that. I hate the bastards due to their predatory pricing. They'll move into a community, undercut and eliminate the competition, then jack the prices back up, or cease carrying a product or product line completely
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to the best of my knowledge the only wal-marts that still offer handguns are the stores in alaska. even the special ordering of handguns has stopped. coincidently it all stopped right around the time of the columbine school shooting. but they claim it is because they got less than 1% of firearm sales from handguns, and wasn't worth the trouble.
Link Posted: 5/6/2003 6:44:15 AM EDT
Originally Posted By union2k2:
Originally Posted By StevenTMc: Because they won't let the union come in and run them out of business.
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Run a billion dollar company out of business by paying a livable wage and health benefits?
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That's what I LOVE about Wally World!! The great thing is...The [b]employees voted[/b] no union! [LOL] Scott
Link Posted: 5/6/2003 6:47:23 AM EDT
Slow, Oblivious Women (SOWs) three or four abreast, blocking the entire aisle as they slowly waddle from one end of the store to the other.
Link Posted: 5/6/2003 8:07:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/6/2003 8:13:36 AM EDT by bilster]
Here is a good reason to hate Wal F***ing mart. I purchased a rifle there 2 years ago. 1st, the people working the counter in the sporting goods section do not know jack about firearms.(or anything about any of the products for that matter) 2nd, most employees there speak english as a second language.(most are very fluent in Vedic, Hindu, or Indian languages) 3rd, I paid with a check. I have paid with checks in the past. Just show ID, they swipe it, and it's a done deal. Not when there is a firearm involved. I had to write my phone # on it, then the clerk had to take it to a manager to verify it and to see if I was on double secret probation or something like that.(this is after the nics came back as OK, so why did they have to check the check?) 4th, to add insult to injury, after taking all these precautions, they still did not trust me. They had to tape up the box, sign across the tape, and have one of their female 3rd world types escort me out of the building.(I'm not allowed to carry my own firearm either, that is what the escort is for) I guess they think that in the store, as soon as the firearm is in my hands, an evil spirit will posses me, and I will butt stroke the clerk, smash the glass counter where the ammo is kept, load up the weapon, discharge the weapon in the store, aiming at everything that moves or doesn't, laugh maniacally, take off my clothes, smear commo creame over my entire body, and run through the store screaming and shooting. Bilster
Link Posted: 5/6/2003 8:26:11 AM EDT
Yeah, I hate Walmart too because they sell stuff so damn cheap! I'd rather pay much more and feel good about myself. And I hate that I can buy 40 round boxes of Winchester .223 for $7.47. That's a drag. And what I REALLY hate is that I can get all my shopping done for a family of seven in ONE friggin' place and not have to drag them all over the place and spend much more. I REALLY hate that! Give me a break here. All chain stores have their pluses and minuses, including not always being the cleanest, being cheap, etc. But they are what they are. If you don't like it, don't shop there. WallyWorld has pissed me off on many occasions, but it's still the best deal around. I bitch and then I go on. And I have to agree with those who have stated that at least Walmart still has the balls to even carry ANYTHING related to firearms. When the was last time you bought guns&ammo at your local Target? As far as Kmart goes... I feel like a total peice of white trash on the rare occasion I go in there. It's hard to compete with Walmart. I know of at least two women who were always way too "high class" to ever consider setting foot in Walmart. Well... both of them shop there regularly. You just can't beat their deals. And some of us live on a tight enough income that if we want to afford our gun hobbies, we have to shop for everything else at Walmart.
Link Posted: 5/6/2003 9:10:50 AM EDT
Red_Label: Bravo, you've hit the nail on the head. I'm a small business owner and like to throw as much as possible to SB owners, but pure, plain fact is, here in Phoenix you just can't beat WallyWorld for their ammo and pool supply prices, two things I go through a lot of. If the local gunshops-even the one(s) I've purchased several firearms from-would carry, at a decent price, something other than PMC & Wolf (bottom of the line) and Speer Law Enforcement & Hornady (top or near the top of the line) I'd FOR SURE throw some cash their way. However, when I can buy Winchester-made in the USA-for the same price or CHEAPER than PMC or Wolf, from WallyWorld, I'm gonna do it EVERY TIME. I ain't rich, plain and simple. Btw, SteyrAUG, both the Wallyworlds I go to as well as the Fry's Electronics I frequent have NO restriction on firearms/CCW. My GF and I quit Costco and joined Sam's Club (WallyWorld, again) due to their policy on firearms. (OK at Sam's, not at Costco)
Link Posted: 5/6/2003 9:11:41 AM EDT
OK, as most of you know, I am a truck driver. Quite often I have to deliver to the Wal-Mart distribution centers where all materials are recieved in bulk then put on their trucks for store delivery. They try to make us unload the truck and break down the pallets of merchandise, or have [b]US PAY THEM[/b] to get their merchandise off the trailer. Grocery DC's are the same way and I give them hell over it every time. The way I see it, I am like the mail man and the trailer is the mail box. You ordered it, you wanted it, don't expect the mail man to carry the mail into your house, open it and read it to you.
Link Posted: 5/6/2003 9:31:07 AM EDT
I love Walmart! $79.00 shotguns, $119.00 10/22's, and $7.99 Federal bulk pack .22 ammo. What's not to like?
Link Posted: 5/6/2003 10:35:52 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/6/2003 10:37:39 AM EDT
Originally Posted By StevenTMc: Because they won't let the union come in and run them out of business.
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Riiiight... Gotta love a company that forces workers (under threat of termination) to work off the clock... That fires employees for dating one another... That uses heavy-handed tactics (spying, coercion, threats) to discourage employees from even discussing union activities on their own time... That refuses to carry CD's and tapes it deems "inappropriate" either because of lyrical content or cover art.
Link Posted: 5/6/2003 10:43:26 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By LoginName: [That refuses to carry CD's and tapes it deems "inappropriate" either because of lyrical content or cover art.
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Oh... My... God... You mean that big bad Wallymart is choosing to put what it deems to be a moral ethical issue ahead of the practice of just making another buck without giving a damn about what filth it sells? What a HORRIBLE thing to do! I wish some other companies would have the guts to "just say NO to CRAP". Walmart is not some state-owned chain. They are private and can sell whatever they choose to and NOT sell whatever they choose. I have yet to be convinced that the entire chain is behind the workers being taken advantage of. If it is so, then damn Walmart. I hate that crap. But I also HATE unions and the fact that they hold so many companies hostage (including mine). Edited or clarity.
Link Posted: 5/6/2003 11:40:58 AM EDT
to the best of my knowledge the only wal-marts that still offer handguns are the stores in alaska. even the special ordering of handguns has stopped.
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Well, your "best" knowledge is [b]WRONG[/b], they most certainly do still carry them on a special order basis (I just checked). "Columbine" has nothing to do with anything. Wal-Fart set their current handgun policy in place in 1991.
Link Posted: 5/6/2003 11:51:15 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Jim_Dandy:
to the best of my knowledge the only wal-marts that still offer handguns are the stores in alaska. even the special ordering of handguns has stopped.
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Well, your "best" knowledge is [b]WRONG[/b], they most certainly do still carry them on a special order basis (I just checked). "Columbine" has nothing to do with anything. Wal-Fart set their current handgun policy in place in 1991.
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IIRC it had something to do with a whack job buying ammos, loading a gun and killing one of their employees and the resulting settlement with said employees family.
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