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Posted: 5/2/2003 9:41:43 AM EDT
I've seen it pointed out (and must admit that I missed the imagery) that Bush chose [i][b]MAY 1st[/i][/b] (the traditional day of celebration among socialists/communists) to make his visit, and he landed on the U.S.S. [i][b]Abraham Lincoln[/i][/b] - namesake of a President who led the nation in a war at least in part over the freeing of an oppressed people. Subtle, very subtle. [:D]
Link Posted: 5/2/2003 9:59:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/2/2003 10:00:51 AM EDT by sloth]
Ah and I also see a parallel between these two men. They both used war as a means to piss on the Constitution (Lincoln and his actions in Maryland during the Invasion of the South, Bush with the Patriot Act and the unoffical "war on terror").
Link Posted: 5/2/2003 11:04:49 AM EDT
Originally Posted By sloth: Ah and I also see a parallel between these two men. They both used war as a means to piss on the Constitution (Lincoln and his actions in Maryland during the Invasion of the South, Bush with the Patriot Act and the unoffical "war on terror").
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[:K] I suppose Sloth would have been happier had GWB invited OBL to Congress and then planted a big wet one right on OBL's asshole before the assembled House and Senate members.... Maybe he would have preferred the nation remain weak and divided back in 1861? Patriot Act...... For heaven's sake, [b]GET OVER IT![/b] Not ONE of us here has been impacted by that law, nor are we likely to be! Get a grip! Your tin foil hat is slipping off.
Link Posted: 5/2/2003 11:19:05 AM EDT
My feeling is GW's intent was to send a message to the liberal left: "eat shit and die, you limp-dicked morons." [;D]
Link Posted: 5/2/2003 11:22:12 AM EDT
Originally Posted By marvl: My feeling is GW's intent was to send a message to the liberal left: "eat shit and die, you limp-dicked morons." [;D]
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Reading between the lines from the reactions at DUh: MESSAGE RECEIVED AND UNDERSTOOD! WE'RE FUCKED BIGTIME!
Link Posted: 5/2/2003 11:55:23 AM EDT
Kbaker, You're reading way too much into the symbolism of this event. The USS Lincoln was the first major ship returning from the Persian Gulf, so it was Bush's way of saying "Welcome Home!" without having a victory parade that might offend some. Lincoln wasn't terribly interested in freeing the slaves - he wanted to keep the Union preserved at all costs. All of his pronouncements and actions were directed towards keeping the Union together either by persuasion or by the point of a bayonet.
Link Posted: 5/2/2003 7:07:46 PM EDT
Originally Posted By sloth: Ah and I also see a parallel between these two men.
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And I see a parallel between you and this: [img]http://ebay1.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_a224ae7285cef5d94e39e53b01abc9b2/i-1.JPG[/img]
Link Posted: 5/2/2003 7:30:03 PM EDT
Originally Posted By sloth: Ah and I also see a parallel between these two men. They both used war as a means to piss on the Constitution (Lincoln and his actions in Maryland during the Invasion of the South, Bush with the Patriot Act and the unoffical "war on terror").
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as your screenname implies, you're also too LAZY to even get your brain in gear before you start posting.
Link Posted: 5/2/2003 11:56:39 PM EDT
Originally Posted By marvl: My feeling is GW's intent was to send a message to the liberal left: "eat shit and die, you limp-dicked morons." [;D]
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You are correct sir and I salute you for that beautiful thought! One small correction though.."eat shit and die you panzy assed,limp-dicked,cock-sucking,whinning morons"[nana]
Link Posted: 5/3/2003 12:09:01 AM EDT
With respect, the problem with the Patriot Act is not what Bush II and Ashcroft will do with it. I believe that they are both honorable, descent, God-fearing men. The problem is: 1)Some members of Congress want to keep the Patriot Act from sunseting as scheduled, and 2)Sooner or later, some Left-wing Socialist type (Hillary?) will be elected President and then they will use it against us.
Link Posted: 5/3/2003 1:21:47 AM EDT
I'm new to the board, and a bit curious about something. Why such vitriolic replies to sloth's, IMO, rather amusing and astute observation?
Link Posted: 5/3/2003 4:38:55 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ddubb: I'm new to the board, and a bit curious about something. Why such vitriolic replies to sloth's, IMO, rather amusing and astute observation?
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What? You are against FREE SPEECH? Most TROLLS are short lived here as they don't get fed their normal diet of pseudo - intellectual debate. It appears you are starting to smoke a little there ddubb. [:K]
Link Posted: 5/3/2003 4:44:53 AM EDT
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Originally posted by RikWriter: And I see a parallel between you and this:
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[lolabove] Good one, Some people just don't get it... Dirk
Link Posted: 5/3/2003 12:39:08 PM EDT
What? You are against FREE SPEECH? Most TROLLS are short lived here as they don't get fed their normal diet of pseudo - intellectual debate. It appears you are starting to smoke a little there ddubb
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Free speech away oslow, I was just wondering why everyone took such offense. Sloth's reply made me giggle, and I was honestly surprised to see how much it pissed others off. Who was I debating? What am I smoking? My hair doesn't look like that.
Link Posted: 5/3/2003 12:52:36 PM EDT
Originally Posted By RikWriter:
Originally Posted By sloth: Ah and I also see a parallel between these two men.
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And I see a parallel between you and this: [url]http://ebay1.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_a224ae7285cef5d94e39e53b01abc9b2/i-1.JPG[/url]
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[LOLabove] [ROFL2] [LOL] [ROFL] Holy shit stop it! That is just too fucking funny!!! Oh shit - my eyes are watering I'm laughing so hard!!!!!!
Link Posted: 5/3/2003 8:07:54 PM EDT
The way I see it he has sent a message to the other world leaders! Give Kim a Mig(fox) and GWB an F16 at about 1500 feet and we can settle this shit without loss of our youth! Be a man Cowboy up mother--kers! GWB a mans man Comander in Chief,I can just see him and Truman,Teddy R,and wiley Post droping the big one on the bunkers! Put Saddam,and Usama Benladin in one jet ,GWB in another lets Roll! Our man can and will fly against your sorry asses! Its great to have a great fighting tradition leading this country(lets not forget Collen) and the Republican Guard! Bob [:D]
Link Posted: 5/3/2003 9:03:12 PM EDT
What don't you like about the Patriot Act? Be specific. I got assigned the task of reviewing this to determine what impact it had on local LE (us). My answer: It means that in a life-threatening emergency, a telecommunications provider has to give LE customer data without a subpoena. That was the only local impact I found (unless you live near or in NYC, or had a relative killed on 9-11, then you got some money). The Patriot Act commanded various immigration officials to to start doing things like basic warrant and CCH checks on applicants, and lets the FBI do the same kind of stuff in foreign counter-terrorism cases that they have done in foreign counter-intelligence cases for years (longer wiretaps, black bag jobs and other basics of the trade). If your name isn't Achmed (or O'Malley of the Provos), it will never affect you. The knee-jerk anti-Patriot Act stuff is the workings of defective minds. I have no problem with rational debate over our nation's efforts on these matters; that is a cornerstone of safeguarding our freedoms, but it is really hard to have a RATIONAL debate when one side hasn't even read the frigging material they are debating, and reverts to the same foaming at the mouth crap they spout every other time the government pisses them off. If you really knew anything at all about our government, you would realize that it is incapable of pulling off any kind of conspiracy. The occasional excess is almost always the result of sloth, greed and ignorance.
Link Posted: 5/3/2003 9:16:36 PM EDT
Originally Posted By natez: The knee-jerk anti-Patriot Act stuff is the workings of defective minds.
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I see you've stumbled across a few of [b]Imborglio's[/b] posts.
Link Posted: 5/3/2003 9:19:48 PM EDT
Originally Posted By natez: What don't you like about the Patriot Act? Be specific.
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Specifically? Start [url=www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=184889]here[/url]
Link Posted: 5/3/2003 9:35:45 PM EDT
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