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Posted: 2/3/2016 2:15:05 PM EDT
The guys at Two Rivers rebuilt this gun from a rifle that was smuggled back by a Gulf War vet and then cut up.....Sadly the barrel was cut as well so they had to substitute a G1 profile barrel. The gun was pretty damn rusty and the front sight parts were frozen in place. In the end the owner decided on a complete refinish. They added the Kuwaiti crest to the mag well and did some other clean up.
The original parts that are no longer apart of the rifle. 1.Barrel - Owner cut it up without realizing he didn't have to. 2.Original receiver (Machine gun....Goes without saying) 3.Bolt carrier (Lost over time)
 One that the soldier carrying it was not so lucky.     |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 2:18:19 PM EDT
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Neat!
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Posted: 2/3/2016 2:21:26 PM EDT
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What is from the orignal bringback?
I see mostly new parts. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 2:22:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is from the orignal bringback? I see mostly new parts. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 2:24:11 PM EDT
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Cool!
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Posted: 2/3/2016 2:24:52 PM EDT
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So the barrel and bolt carrier are new.
And they rewelded the receiver? And they added DSA logo on receiver? |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 2:26:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So the barrel and bolt carrier are new. And they rewelded the receiver? And they added DSA logo on receiver? |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 2:28:35 PM EDT
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Cool
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Posted: 2/3/2016 2:29:47 PM EDT
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We found quite a few FALs near the Kuwait City airport. I threw a few mags in my ruck to keep, we tossed the rifles in a business store front.
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Posted: 2/3/2016 2:34:51 PM EDT
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No the original receiver had to be left out of the build. It has since been rewelded as a post sample. The rest of the kit was rebuilt for the owner. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So the barrel and bolt carrier are new. And they rewelded the receiver? And they added DSA logo on receiver? First it was the barrel, then the barrel and bolt carrier. Now it's the barrel, bolt carrier, and receiver. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 2:38:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: First it was the barrel, then the barrel and bolt carrier. Now it's the barrel, bolt carrier, and receiver. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So the barrel and bolt carrier are new. And they rewelded the receiver? And they added DSA logo on receiver? First it was the barrel, then the barrel and bolt carrier. Now it's the barrel, bolt carrier, and receiver. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 2:43:43 PM EDT
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Nice FAl.
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Posted: 2/3/2016 2:44:48 PM EDT
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FS: Gulf War Kuwaiti FAL- Never fired and only dropped once
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Posted: 2/3/2016 2:45:49 PM EDT
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so ....what exactly did this guy bring back except a bin of parts he mostly couldn't use for this build?
......an idea? Sorry, but bringback is a stretch imo. ...well the carry handle looks old. 
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Posted: 2/3/2016 2:45:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FS: Gulf War Kuwaiti FAL- Never fired and only dropped once |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 2:46:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: so ....what exactly did this guy bring back except a bin of parts he mostly couldn't use for this build? ......an idea? Sorry, but bringback is a stretch imo. ...well the carry handle looks old. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 2:49:44 PM EDT
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Do you know how part kit builds work? You automatically put the original receiver out of the picture.....ATF once a machine gun always a machine gun (It's sear cut) so when it's rewelded it's a machine gun receiver again and now it an illegal machine gun again as far as civilian ownership......Common sense man. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So the barrel and bolt carrier are new. And they rewelded the receiver? And they added DSA logo on receiver? First it was the barrel, then the barrel and bolt carrier. Now it's the barrel, bolt carrier, and receiver. I used common sense, and it told me that the more parts they replaced, the less of a bring back it was. Just sayin. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 2:51:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I used common sense, and it told me that the more parts they replaced, the less of a bring back it was. Just sayin. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So the barrel and bolt carrier are new. And they rewelded the receiver? And they added DSA logo on receiver? First it was the barrel, then the barrel and bolt carrier. Now it's the barrel, bolt carrier, and receiver. I used common sense, and it told me that the more parts they replaced, the less of a bring back it was. Just sayin. I wish the original receiver could be used and they could do a semi auto mod to it etc but sadly thanks to the ATF no bueno! |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 2:51:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/3/2016 2:55:29 PM EDT
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Ill keep mine
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Posted: 2/3/2016 2:59:39 PM EDT
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I'm confused? Is this rifle yours or someone else's?
What parts on the new build are from the original? The dust cover looks be new/replacement. As does the pistol grip. I understand on an FAL, 922r requires the replacement of the barrel, receiver, hammer, trigger, sear, piston and usually a part of the furniture or pistol grip. So its a Kuwaiti lower and maybe some Kuwaiti springs and a buttstock? Would love to see photos of the other side of the lower to see how those parts fared, as the lower prebuild looks to be mostly rust. Thanks Matt |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 3:01:09 PM EDT
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I'm confused? Is this rifle yours or someone else's? What parts on the new build are from the original? The dust cover looks be new/replacement. As does the pistol grip. I understand on an FAL, 922r requires the replacement of the barrel, receiver, hammer, trigger, sear, piston and usually a part of the furniture or pistol grip. So its a Kuwaiti lower and maybe some Kuwaiti springs and a buttstock? Would love to see photos of the other side of the lower to see how those parts fared, as the lower prebuild looks to be mostly rust. Thanks Matt Jesus that didnt take long 
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Posted: 2/3/2016 3:02:52 PM EDT
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Most of the kit with the exception of the barrel and bolt carrier. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What is from the orignal bringback? I see mostly new parts. And receiver....
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Posted: 2/3/2016 3:05:24 PM EDT
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You automatically put the original receiver out of the picture.....ATF once a machine gun always a machine gun (It's sear cut) so when it's rewelded it's a machine gun receiver again and now it an illegal machine gun again as far as civilian ownership......Common sense man. Except your interpretation of "common sense" is wrong. Once cut, it's no longer an MG or a firearm. Once rewelded, it's a new firearm. Weld up the sear cut prior to welding the rest of the receiver and it would be a legal, new manufacture semi receiver. If all you wanted was a post-sample receiver, it should have just been left uncut. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 3:06:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm confused? Is this rifle yours or someone else's? What parts on the new build are from the original? The dust cover looks be new/replacement. As does the pistol grip. I understand on an FAL, 922r requires the replacement of the barrel, receiver, hammer, trigger, sear, piston and usually a part of the furniture or pistol grip. So its a Kuwaiti lower and maybe some Kuwaiti springs and a buttstock? Would love to see photos of the other side of the lower to see how those parts fared, as the lower prebuild looks to be mostly rust. Thanks Matt You can use a US mag (3 parts) Receiver(1 Part) and either a piston (1 part) or something in the stock set to count towards parts compliance. Gun before rebuild.     |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 3:07:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Except your interpretation of "common sense" is wrong. Once cut, it's no longer an MG or a firearm. Once rewelded, it's a new firearm. Weld up the sear cut prior to welding the rest of the receiver and it would be a legal, new manufacture semi receiver. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You automatically put the original receiver out of the picture.....ATF once a machine gun always a machine gun (It's sear cut) so when it's rewelded it's a machine gun receiver again and now it an illegal machine gun again as far as civilian ownership......Common sense man. Except your interpretation of "common sense" is wrong. Once cut, it's no longer an MG or a firearm. Once rewelded, it's a new firearm. Weld up the sear cut prior to welding the rest of the receiver and it would be a legal, new manufacture semi receiver. Also you have to prove when the now kit came in....The rules on Demil procedure have changed. 1 saw cut hasn't been used in a long long lllllllllllllllllllong time. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 3:09:13 PM EDT
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It wasn't my intent to question 922r compliance, I am just interested in what parts on this are Kuwaiti v. new. I think 922r is lame.
Here's my FAL, btw. 
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Posted: 2/3/2016 3:09:21 PM EDT
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Except your interpretation of "common sense" is wrong. Once cut, it's no longer an MG or a firearm. Once rewelded, it's a new firearm. Weld up the sear cut prior to welding the rest of the receiver and it would be a legal, new manufacture semi receiver. If all you wanted was a post-sample receiver, it should have just been left uncut. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You automatically put the original receiver out of the picture.....ATF once a machine gun always a machine gun (It's sear cut) so when it's rewelded it's a machine gun receiver again and now it an illegal machine gun again as far as civilian ownership......Common sense man. Except your interpretation of "common sense" is wrong. Once cut, it's no longer an MG or a firearm. Once rewelded, it's a new firearm. Weld up the sear cut prior to welding the rest of the receiver and it would be a legal, new manufacture semi receiver. If all you wanted was a post-sample receiver, it should have just been left uncut. I always thought that reweld thinking was a grey area. Didn't some get into legal trouble with reweld M14 receivers with the full auto connector stud ground/machined off prior to rewelding? |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 3:10:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Jesus that didnt take long Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm confused? Is this rifle yours or someone else's? What parts on the new build are from the original? The dust cover looks be new/replacement. As does the pistol grip. I understand on an FAL, 922r requires the replacement of the barrel, receiver, hammer, trigger, sear, piston and usually a part of the furniture or pistol grip. So its a Kuwaiti lower and maybe some Kuwaiti springs and a buttstock? Would love to see photos of the other side of the lower to see how those parts fared, as the lower prebuild looks to be mostly rust. Thanks Matt Jesus that didnt take long |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 3:12:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I always thought that reweld thinking was a grey area. Didn't some get into legal trouble with reweld M14 receivers with the full auto connector stud ground/machined off prior to rewelding? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: You automatically put the original receiver out of the picture.....ATF once a machine gun always a machine gun (It's sear cut) so when it's rewelded it's a machine gun receiver again and now it an illegal machine gun again as far as civilian ownership......Common sense man. Except your interpretation of "common sense" is wrong. Once cut, it's no longer an MG or a firearm. Once rewelded, it's a new firearm. Weld up the sear cut prior to welding the rest of the receiver and it would be a legal, new manufacture semi receiver. If all you wanted was a post-sample receiver, it should have just been left uncut. I always thought that reweld thinking was a grey area. Didn't some get into legal trouble with reweld M14 receivers with the full auto connector stud ground/machined off prior to rewelding? There are so many grey areas with kits it's gotten insane. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 3:13:55 PM EDT
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Most of the kit with the exception of the barrel and bolt carrier. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What is from the orignal bringback? I see mostly new parts. Why did the owner cut the barrel? Where did he store that rifle? |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 3:24:47 PM EDT
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I have always thought that the FAL was the second greatest rifle of all time.
The two I had were awesome, even the oddball .243 money shredder. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 3:29:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why did the owner cut the barrel? Where did he store that rifle? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: What is from the orignal bringback? I see mostly new parts. Why did the owner cut the barrel? Where did he store that rifle?  |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 3:35:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I remember something about that yeah....I also think those were cut to different demil standards.....The reason why kits come in with no barrel and with milled guns the receiver being torch cut in 3 different spots has a lot to do with rewelding(Rebuilding) Hell a few years ago Apex was selling crushed stamped AKM receivers and a couple of chuckleheads managed to unflatten them and bring the receiver back into spec and built in at least one case a functioning full auto AKM...... There are so many grey areas with kits it's gotten insane. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You automatically put the original receiver out of the picture.....ATF once a machine gun always a machine gun (It's sear cut) so when it's rewelded it's a machine gun receiver again and now it an illegal machine gun again as far as civilian ownership......Common sense man. Except your interpretation of "common sense" is wrong. Once cut, it's no longer an MG or a firearm. Once rewelded, it's a new firearm. Weld up the sear cut prior to welding the rest of the receiver and it would be a legal, new manufacture semi receiver. If all you wanted was a post-sample receiver, it should have just been left uncut. I always thought that reweld thinking was a grey area. Didn't some get into legal trouble with reweld M14 receivers with the full auto connector stud ground/machined off prior to rewelding? There are so many grey areas with kits it's gotten insane. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 3:42:32 PM EDT
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Bad information from a buddy of his back in the day apparently......They told him the barrel had to be cut with the receiver. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What is from the orignal bringback? I see mostly new parts. Why did the owner cut the barrel? Where did he store that rifle? His buddy owes him several beers. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 5:46:31 PM EDT
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I have always thought that the FAL was the second greatest rifle of all time. The two I had were awesome, even the oddball .243 money shredder. I sure as hell like the ergos over the G3 Gotta slice your knuckles off every time you wanna change a mag real quick on my G3A3 and the stock is made for tenderizing meat
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Posted: 2/3/2016 5:51:24 PM EDT
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I sure as hell like the ergos over the G3 Gotta slice your knuckles off every time you wanna change a mag real quick on my G3A3 and the stock is made for tenderizing meat Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have always thought that the FAL was the second greatest rifle of all time. The two I had were awesome, even the oddball .243 money shredder. I sure as hell like the ergos over the G3 Gotta slice your knuckles off every time you wanna change a mag real quick on my G3A3 and the stock is made for tenderizing meat With an extended selector and one of the more naturally-angled grips (the swept-back grips are optimized for launching rifle grenades), I actually like the ergonomics in their entirety over those of the AR as well. Compared to the G-3, though, the FAL's ergonomics in any configuration result in no contest. The FAL is just plain better. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 5:59:32 PM EDT
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I sure as hell like the ergos over the G3 Gotta slice your knuckles off every time you wanna change a mag real quick on my G3A3 and the stock is made for tenderizing meat Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have always thought that the FAL was the second greatest rifle of all time. The two I had were awesome, even the oddball .243 money shredder. I sure as hell like the ergos over the G3 Gotta slice your knuckles off every time you wanna change a mag real quick on my G3A3 and the stock is made for tenderizing meat I think the AK is number three. Sorry Germans.
But yeah, all my years lusting for a PSG1 clone and thank god I bought a G3 first. Pretty much the German version of the ebr sage chassis on an old ass m14. "Now it's a sniper rifle!" |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 6:01:23 PM EDT
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With an extended selector and one of the more naturally-angled grips (the swept-back grips are optimized for launching rifle grenades), I actually like the ergonomics in their entirety over those of the AR as well. Compared to the G-3, though, the FAL's ergonomics in any configuration result in no contest. The FAL is just plain better. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have always thought that the FAL was the second greatest rifle of all time. The two I had were awesome, even the oddball .243 money shredder. I sure as hell like the ergos over the G3 Gotta slice your knuckles off every time you wanna change a mag real quick on my G3A3 and the stock is made for tenderizing meat With an extended selector and one of the more naturally-angled grips (the swept-back grips are optimized for launching rifle grenades), I actually like the ergonomics in their entirety over those of the AR as well. Compared to the G-3, though, the FAL's ergonomics in any configuration result in no contest. The FAL is just plain better. Belongs in a trashcan |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 6:02:20 PM EDT
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Hence third place.
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Posted: 2/3/2016 7:01:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Belongs in a trashcan Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I have always thought that the FAL was the second greatest rifle of all time. The two I had were awesome, even the oddball .243 money shredder. I sure as hell like the ergos over the G3 Gotta slice your knuckles off every time you wanna change a mag real quick on my G3A3 and the stock is made for tenderizing meat With an extended selector and one of the more naturally-angled grips (the swept-back grips are optimized for launching rifle grenades), I actually like the ergonomics in their entirety over those of the AR as well. Compared to the G-3, though, the FAL's ergonomics in any configuration result in no contest. The FAL is just plain better. Belongs in a trashcan |
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