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Posted: 8/1/2015 4:20:11 PM EDT
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That's what I figured. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes we do. Legal status isn't given away. It is an expensive and time consuming process. That's why most choose the easy way and come illegally. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile No you don't. The Administration is whole-heartedly ignoring immigration law. Writing it's own rules. And running interference on anyone trying to enforce existing law. So no. You don't know. Blah blah blah. $100 to your favorite charity/church if he received permanent resident status through some nefarious backdoor deal. $100 to mine if he received status through a legitimate channel. What do you say? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile So when you say legitimate channel, you mean something like DOJ_CRS lawyer back channel 'legal' special treatment? No thanks. That's what I figured. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Whatever. Did you see the previous post where he was described as a Dreamer on one of the MSM networks? |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 6:53:44 PM EDT
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Whatever. Did you see the previous post where he was described as a Dreamer on one of the MSM networks? Did you see him referred to as a permanent resident in every article released? Maybe you're having a hard time with these terms. A permanent resident is someone who has completed almost all the steps to become a US citizen. A dreamer would be a loose term for someone in the country illegally and benefitting from education programs. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 7:05:51 PM EDT
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Did you see him referred to as a permanent resident in every article released? Maybe you're having a hard time with these terms. A permanent resident is someone who has completed almost all the steps to become a US citizen. A dreamer would be a loose term for someone in the country illegally and benefitting from education programs. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Whatever. Did you see the previous post where he was described as a Dreamer on one of the MSM networks? Did you see him referred to as a permanent resident in every article released? Maybe you're having a hard time with these terms. A permanent resident is someone who has completed almost all the steps to become a US citizen. A dreamer would be a loose term for someone in the country illegally and benefitting from education programs. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Maybe you are missing the point. He was a Dreamer first. Got some special loving from the Obama admin (he was deemed to have legal status). Given the disregard that the Obama admin has for rule of law, it's not beyond the realm of special exceptions that the admin often resorts to (because they are so special and above the law). So anyway, we have a 'Dreamer' who was here prior to his re-entry (falling within the DACA outline) went outside of the U.S. after the implementation of DACA (summer of 2012) and on his re-entry (2013) was reborn with some type of legal status while he was still a minor. What problem are you having with now? So what steps are you saying he completed, that you know of factually, to become a US Citizen (the articles I've seen reference a legal status)? |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 7:13:28 PM EDT
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Maybe you are missing the point. He was a Dreamer first. Got some special loving from the Obama admin (he was deemed to have legal status). Given the disregard that the Obama admin has for rule of law, it's not beyond the realm of special exceptions that the admin often resorts to because they are so special and above the law. So anyway, we have a 'Dreamer' who was here prior to his re-entry (falling within the DACA outline) went outside of the U.S. after the implementation of DACA (summer of 2012) and on his re-entry (2013) was reborn with some type of legal status while he was still a minor. What problem are you having with now? So what steps are you saying he completed, that you know of factually, to become a US Citizen (the articles I've seen reference a legal status)? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Whatever. Did you see the previous post where he was described as a Dreamer on one of the MSM networks? Did you see him referred to as a permanent resident in every article released? Maybe you're having a hard time with these terms. A permanent resident is someone who has completed almost all the steps to become a US citizen. A dreamer would be a loose term for someone in the country illegally and benefitting from education programs. Maybe you are missing the point. He was a Dreamer first. Got some special loving from the Obama admin (he was deemed to have legal status). Given the disregard that the Obama admin has for rule of law, it's not beyond the realm of special exceptions that the admin often resorts to because they are so special and above the law. So anyway, we have a 'Dreamer' who was here prior to his re-entry (falling within the DACA outline) went outside of the U.S. after the implementation of DACA (summer of 2012) and on his re-entry (2013) was reborn with some type of legal status while he was still a minor. What problem are you having with now? So what steps are you saying he completed, that you know of factually, to become a US Citizen (the articles I've seen reference a legal status)? Jeeze dude, now you're just making shit up. ETA: According to everything I've read and what's being reported, he is for the fourth time, a permanent resident. I told you what that meant in my last post. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 7:19:01 PM EDT
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Why is the FBI investigating a state crime? In order to cover it up? Crow reservation, which coincidentally, doesnt like guns. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:32:47 PM EDT
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Why is the FBI investigating a state crime? In order to cover it up? Crow reservation, which coincidentally, doesnt like guns. Right. The Feebs handle many normal police functions on indian reservations. I know guys who have done that rotation and they spend a surprising amount of time working on violent predators like armed robbers and this fuck. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:43:24 PM EDT
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My racist ass would not have stopped for the Mexican in the middle of nowhere. Fuck it. I said it. For a lot of reasons. Spot on.
At least I don't have to spell out those reasons to some folks
No tarps for me! 
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:46:46 PM EDT
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no good deed goes unpunished.
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:49:59 PM EDT
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When an illegal is caught, this should be how it's handled: First time: Arrested, put in a federal detention facility and put to hard labor (they came here to work, right?) for a time that is proportional to the amount of time they've been here illegally, then deported. Second time: Executed. They have established that they have no regard for our laws and will continue to come back, so end it here. Violent offenders proceed directly to second offense, do not pass go, do not collect welfare. Yep, and then toss the body over the boarder or make the first timers bury his ass 
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:51:17 PM EDT
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When an illegal is caught, this should be how it's handled: First time: Arrested, put in a federal detention facility and put to hard labor (they came here to work, right?) for a time that is proportional to the amount of time they've been here illegally, then deported. Second time: Executed. They have established that they have no regard for our laws and will continue to come back, so end it here. Violent offenders proceed directly to second offense, do not pass go, do not collect welfare. Yep, and then toss the body over the boarder or make the first timers bury his ass I like the part about having the first timers bury them. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 1:52:06 AM EDT
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Honest, decent people who are unaccustomed to interacting with the worst shitheads the third world has to offer. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who the fuck would pull over and help that guy? Honest, decent people who are unaccustomed to interacting with the worst shitheads the third world has to offer. Having worked with convicts in several states that had large Native American population he could easily be mistaken for a member of many tribes. Since he was on a reservation the people may have thought he was a tribal member if the saw him in passing. They probably realized the truth too late. I wouldn't have picked him up. I have picked up plenty of stranded people over decades but I'm picky who I will give a ride to these days and with cell phones most people can get help without someone picking them up if the just had car trouble. I've got tribal members in my family (all have their Chippewa tribal affiliation cards but you wouldn't identify them as anything but white) but I've mistaken some tribal members as Mexican. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 2:21:13 AM EDT
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Jeeze dude, now you're just making shit up. ETA: According to everything I've read and what's being reported, he is for the fourth time, a permanent resident. I told you what that meant in my last post. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Jeeze dude, now you're just making shit up. ETA: According to everything I've read and what's being reported, he is for the fourth time, a permanent resident. I told you what that meant in my last post. Do you know what a permanent resident is? An alien admitted to the United States as a lawful permanent resident. Permanent residents are also commonly referred to as immigrants; however, the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) broadly defines an immigrant as any alien in the United States, except one legally admitted under specific nonimmigrant categories (INA section 101(a)(15)). An illegal alien who entered the United States without inspection, for example, would be strictly defined as an immigrant under the INA but is not a permanent resident alien. Lawful permanent residents are legally accorded the privilege of residing permanently in the United States. They may be issued immigrant visas by the Department of State overseas or adjusted to permanent resident status by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services in the United States. They are not the same as a citizen. Someone that has a green card is a permanent resident. He can also have received that green card as a DREAMer. Only those Dreamers who recently received green cards had them revoked due to a judge's injunction. Obama's administration was handing out thousands of green cards to DREAMer's prior to the injuction taking place A new analysis casts some much-needed light on the question of exactly who might be eligible for the Obama Administration’s “deferred action” initiative for unauthorized youth who were brought to this country as children. This initiative, announced by Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano on June 15, offers a two-year, renewable reprieve from deportation to unauthorized immigrants who are under the age of 31; entered the United States before age 16; have lived continuously in the country for at least five years; have not been convicted of a felony, a “significant” misdemeanor, or three other misdemeanors; and are currently in school, graduated from high school, earned a GED, or served in the military. Immigrants who meet these criteria are commonly referred to as “DREAMers” because they comprise most (though not all) of the individuals who meet the general requirements of the Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors (DREAM) Act. .....How will DREAMers get green cards under Obama Amnesty? Thankfully, some of the provisions of DREAM Act are being revived in the Border Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act of 2013. That means that the RPI status for DREAMers works differently. In summary, as soon as they have been in this legal status for five years, they apply for adjustment of status to permanent resident (commonly called a green card). This time period is 10 years for all other undocumented aliens. The shorter period for DREAMers is being given to them as a recognition of their strong ties to America and with a consideration that they were children when they were forced by their parents into a criminal situation for which they should not be punished. Those who want to be categorized as DREAMers, in addition to coming to the US before their 15th birthday, must obtain a high school diploma or equivalent, and pursue higher education or serve in the military. He should have lost his green card if he was arrested for a burglary. Used to be if you were convicted of a felony you lost your green card, were deported and received a lifetime ban from re-entering the country. I worked with illegals for over 20 years. Since Obama came into office this likely no longer applies. ....What Happens When a Green Card Holder is Arrested? When a lawful permanent resident (green card holder) is arrested by law enforcement, the consequences may include revocation of the immigrant visa and deportation, even without a criminal conviction. In immigration law, aggravated felony is defined far more broadly than in most state's criminal laws. The definition is found in Section 101(a)(43) of the Immigration and Nationality Act, or Section 1101(a)(43) of the U.S. Code.
In summary, the I.N.A. definition names the following as aggravated felonies: (A) murder, rape, or sexual abuse of a minor (B) illicit trafficking in a controlled substance (C) illicit trafficking in firearms or destructive devices or in explosive materials (D) money laundering or engaging in monetary transactions in property derived from specific unlawful activity if the amount of the funds exceeded $10,000 (E) certain explosive materials or firearms offenses (F) a crime of violence (not including a purely political offense) for which the term of imprisonment at least one year (G) theft (including receipt of stolen property) or burglary if the term of imprisonment was at least one year (H) kidnapping or making a demand for or receipt of ransom (I) child pornography (J) racketeering, or gambling if a sentence of one year imprisonment or more could have been imposed (K) owning, controlling, managing, or supervising a prostitution business; transportation for the purpose of prostitution if committed for commercial advantage; or peonage, slavery, involuntary servitude, or trafficking in persons (L) gathering or transmitting national defense information, disclosure of classified information, sabotage, treason, or compromising the identity of undercover intelligence agents (M) fraud or deceit in which the loss to the victim or victims exceeds $10,000; or tax evasion in which the revenue loss to the Government exceeds $10,000 (N) alien smuggling, except a first offense for which the alien has affirmatively shown the purpose of assisting, abetting, or aiding only the alien's spouse, child, or parent (and no other person) (O) illegal U.S. entry by an alien who was previously deported on the basis of an aggravated felony conviction (P) falsely making, forging, counterfeiting, mutilating, or altering a passport or instrument (document fraud) for which the term of imprisonment is at least 12 months; except in the case of a first offense for which the alien has affirmatively shown that the offense was committed for the purpose of assisting, abetting, or aiding the alien's spouse, child, or parent (and no other person) (Q) failure to appear for service of sentence if the underlying offense is punishable by imprisonment for 5 years or more (R) commercial bribery, counterfeiting, forgery, or trafficking in vehicles the identification numbers of which have been altered, if the term of imprisonment is at least one year; (S) obstruction of justice, perjury or subornation of perjury, or bribery of a witness, for which the term of imprisonment is at least one year (T) failure to appear before a court pursuant to a court order to answer to or dispose of a charge of a felony for which a sentence of 2 years' imprisonment or more may be imposed (U) an attempt or conspiracy to commit an aggravated felony. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 7:18:33 AM EDT
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Jeeze dude, now you're just making shit up. ETA: According to everything I've read and what's being reported, he is for the fourth time, a permanent resident. I told you what that meant in my last post. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Whatever. Did you see the previous post where he was described as a Dreamer on one of the MSM networks? Did you see him referred to as a permanent resident in every article released? Maybe you're having a hard time with these terms. A permanent resident is someone who has completed almost all the steps to become a US citizen. A dreamer would be a loose term for someone in the country illegally and benefitting from education programs. Maybe you are missing the point. He was a Dreamer first. Got some special loving from the Obama admin (he was deemed to have legal status). Given the disregard that the Obama admin has for rule of law, it's not beyond the realm of special exceptions that the admin often resorts to because they are so special and above the law. So anyway, we have a 'Dreamer' who was here prior to his re-entry (falling within the DACA outline) went outside of the U.S. after the implementation of DACA (summer of 2012) and on his re-entry (2013) was reborn with some type of legal status while he was still a minor. What problem are you having with now? So what steps are you saying he completed, that you know of factually, to become a US Citizen (the articles I've seen reference a legal status)? Jeeze dude, now you're just making shit up. ETA: According to everything I've read and what's being reported, he is for the fourth time, a permanent resident. I told you what that meant in my last post. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile No really dude. Obama had an aunt (who died not too long ago) and an uncle both living in the U.S. who were/ are illegal aliens. Making rare and special exceptions. And you are still wrong. How do you know he started the process for citizenship? |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 12:31:11 PM EDT
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Do you know what a permanent resident is? An alien admitted to the United States as a lawful permanent resident. Permanent residents are also commonly referred to as immigrants; however, the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) broadly defines an immigrant as any alien in the United States, except one legally admitted under specific nonimmigrant categories (INA section 101(a)(15)). An illegal alien who entered the United States without inspection, for example, would be strictly defined as an immigrant under the INA but is not a permanent resident alien. Lawful permanent residents are legally accorded the privilege of residing permanently in the United States. They may be issued immigrant visas by the Department of State overseas or adjusted to permanent resident status by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services in the United States. They are not the same as a citizen. Someone that has a green card is a permanent resident. He can also have received that green card as a DREAMer. Only those Dreamers who recently received green cards had them revoked due to a judge's injunction. Obama's administration was handing out thousands of green cards to DREAMer's prior to the injuction taking place .....How will DREAMers get green cards under Obama Amnesty? Thankfully, some of the provisions of DREAM Act are being revived in the Border Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act of 2013. That means that the RPI status for DREAMers works differently. In summary, as soon as they have been in this legal status for five years, they apply for adjustment of status to permanent resident (commonly called a green card). This time period is 10 years for all other undocumented aliens. The shorter period for DREAMers is being given to them as a recognition of their strong ties to America and with a consideration that they were children when they were forced by their parents into a criminal situation for which they should not be punished. Those who want to be categorized as DREAMers, in addition to coming to the US before their 15th birthday, must obtain a high school diploma or equivalent, and pursue higher education or serve in the military. He should have lost his green card if he was arrested for a burglary. Used to be if you were convicted of a felony you lost your green card, were deported and received a lifetime ban from re-entering the country. I worked with illegals for over 20 years. Since Obama came into office this likely no longer applies. ....What Happens When a Green Card Holder is Arrested? When a lawful permanent resident (green card holder) is arrested by law enforcement, the consequences may include revocation of the immigrant visa and deportation, even without a criminal conviction. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Jeeze dude, now you're just making shit up. ETA: According to everything I've read and what's being reported, he is for the fourth time, a permanent resident. I told you what that meant in my last post. Do you know what a permanent resident is? An alien admitted to the United States as a lawful permanent resident. Permanent residents are also commonly referred to as immigrants; however, the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) broadly defines an immigrant as any alien in the United States, except one legally admitted under specific nonimmigrant categories (INA section 101(a)(15)). An illegal alien who entered the United States without inspection, for example, would be strictly defined as an immigrant under the INA but is not a permanent resident alien. Lawful permanent residents are legally accorded the privilege of residing permanently in the United States. They may be issued immigrant visas by the Department of State overseas or adjusted to permanent resident status by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services in the United States. They are not the same as a citizen. Someone that has a green card is a permanent resident. He can also have received that green card as a DREAMer. Only those Dreamers who recently received green cards had them revoked due to a judge's injunction. Obama's administration was handing out thousands of green cards to DREAMer's prior to the injuction taking place A new analysis casts some much-needed light on the question of exactly who might be eligible for the Obama Administration’s “deferred action” initiative for unauthorized youth who were brought to this country as children. This initiative, announced by Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano on June 15, offers a two-year, renewable reprieve from deportation to unauthorized immigrants who are under the age of 31; entered the United States before age 16; have lived continuously in the country for at least five years; have not been convicted of a felony, a “significant” misdemeanor, or three other misdemeanors; and are currently in school, graduated from high school, earned a GED, or served in the military. Immigrants who meet these criteria are commonly referred to as “DREAMers” because they comprise most (though not all) of the individuals who meet the general requirements of the Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors (DREAM) Act. .....How will DREAMers get green cards under Obama Amnesty? Thankfully, some of the provisions of DREAM Act are being revived in the Border Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act of 2013. That means that the RPI status for DREAMers works differently. In summary, as soon as they have been in this legal status for five years, they apply for adjustment of status to permanent resident (commonly called a green card). This time period is 10 years for all other undocumented aliens. The shorter period for DREAMers is being given to them as a recognition of their strong ties to America and with a consideration that they were children when they were forced by their parents into a criminal situation for which they should not be punished. Those who want to be categorized as DREAMers, in addition to coming to the US before their 15th birthday, must obtain a high school diploma or equivalent, and pursue higher education or serve in the military. He should have lost his green card if he was arrested for a burglary. Used to be if you were convicted of a felony you lost your green card, were deported and received a lifetime ban from re-entering the country. I worked with illegals for over 20 years. Since Obama came into office this likely no longer applies. ....What Happens When a Green Card Holder is Arrested? When a lawful permanent resident (green card holder) is arrested by law enforcement, the consequences may include revocation of the immigrant visa and deportation, even without a criminal conviction. In immigration law, aggravated felony is defined far more broadly than in most state's criminal laws. The definition is found in Section 101(a)(43) of the Immigration and Nationality Act, or Section 1101(a)(43) of the U.S. Code.
In summary, the I.N.A. definition names the following as aggravated felonies: (A) murder, rape, or sexual abuse of a minor (B) illicit trafficking in a controlled substance (C) illicit trafficking in firearms or destructive devices or in explosive materials (D) money laundering or engaging in monetary transactions in property derived from specific unlawful activity if the amount of the funds exceeded $10,000 (E) certain explosive materials or firearms offenses (F) a crime of violence (not including a purely political offense) for which the term of imprisonment at least one year (G) theft (including receipt of stolen property) or burglary if the term of imprisonment was at least one year (H) kidnapping or making a demand for or receipt of ransom (I) child pornography (J) racketeering, or gambling if a sentence of one year imprisonment or more could have been imposed (K) owning, controlling, managing, or supervising a prostitution business; transportation for the purpose of prostitution if committed for commercial advantage; or peonage, slavery, involuntary servitude, or trafficking in persons (L) gathering or transmitting national defense information, disclosure of classified information, sabotage, treason, or compromising the identity of undercover intelligence agents (M) fraud or deceit in which the loss to the victim or victims exceeds $10,000; or tax evasion in which the revenue loss to the Government exceeds $10,000 (N) alien smuggling, except a first offense for which the alien has affirmatively shown the purpose of assisting, abetting, or aiding only the alien's spouse, child, or parent (and no other person) (O) illegal U.S. entry by an alien who was previously deported on the basis of an aggravated felony conviction (P) falsely making, forging, counterfeiting, mutilating, or altering a passport or instrument (document fraud) for which the term of imprisonment is at least 12 months; except in the case of a first offense for which the alien has affirmatively shown that the offense was committed for the purpose of assisting, abetting, or aiding the alien's spouse, child, or parent (and no other person) (Q) failure to appear for service of sentence if the underlying offense is punishable by imprisonment for 5 years or more (R) commercial bribery, counterfeiting, forgery, or trafficking in vehicles the identification numbers of which have been altered, if the term of imprisonment is at least one year; (S) obstruction of justice, perjury or subornation of perjury, or bribery of a witness, for which the term of imprisonment is at least one year (T) failure to appear before a court pursuant to a court order to answer to or dispose of a charge of a felony for which a sentence of 2 years' imprisonment or more may be imposed (U) an attempt or conspiracy to commit an aggravated felony. I know what a permanent resident is. I stated what it was in the quote tree that you cut out. Do you have a link to the Dreamers who received green cards and then had them revoked? I'd like to read more about that. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 12:38:31 PM EDT
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No really dude. Obama had an aunt (who died not too long ago) and an uncle both living in the U.S. who were/ are illegal aliens. Making rare and special exceptions. And you are still wrong. How do you know he started the process for citizenship? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Whatever. Did you see the previous post where he was described as a Dreamer on one of the MSM networks? Did you see him referred to as a permanent resident in every article released? Maybe you're having a hard time with these terms. A permanent resident is someone who has completed almost all the steps to become a US citizen. A dreamer would be a loose term for someone in the country illegally and benefitting from education programs. Maybe you are missing the point. He was a Dreamer first. Got some special loving from the Obama admin (he was deemed to have legal status). Given the disregard that the Obama admin has for rule of law, it's not beyond the realm of special exceptions that the admin often resorts to because they are so special and above the law. So anyway, we have a 'Dreamer' who was here prior to his re-entry (falling within the DACA outline) went outside of the U.S. after the implementation of DACA (summer of 2012) and on his re-entry (2013) was reborn with some type of legal status while he was still a minor. What problem are you having with now? So what steps are you saying he completed, that you know of factually, to become a US Citizen (the articles I've seen reference a legal status)? Jeeze dude, now you're just making shit up. ETA: According to everything I've read and what's being reported, he is for the fourth time, a permanent resident. I told you what that meant in my last post. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile No really dude. Obama had an aunt (who died not too long ago) and an uncle both living in the U.S. who were/ are illegal aliens. Making rare and special exceptions. And you are still wrong. How do you know he started the process for citizenship? What exactly am I wrong about? Also, I have no idea if he was trying to become a full citizen. He is a legally admitted Permanent Resident/LAPR/Green Card holder. Are you arguing that? At this point, I have no idea what you are arguing. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 2:00:32 PM EDT
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What exactly am I wrong about? Also, I have no idea if he was trying to become a full citizen. He is a legally admitted Permanent Resident/LAPR/Green Card holder. Are you arguing that? At this point, I have no idea what you are arguing. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Did you see him referred to as a permanent resident in every article released? Maybe you're having a hard time with these terms. A permanent resident is someone who has completed almost all the steps to become a US citizen. A dreamer would be a loose term for someone in the country illegally and benefitting from education programs. Maybe you are missing the point. He was a Dreamer first. Got some special loving from the Obama admin (he was deemed to have legal status). Given the disregard that the Obama admin has for rule of law, it's not beyond the realm of special exceptions that the admin often resorts to because they are so special and above the law. So anyway, we have a 'Dreamer' who was here prior to his re-entry (falling within the DACA outline) went outside of the U.S. after the implementation of DACA (summer of 2012) and on his re-entry (2013) was reborn with some type of legal status while he was still a minor. What problem are you having with now? So what steps are you saying he completed, that you know of factually, to become a US Citizen (the articles I've seen reference a legal status)? Jeeze dude, now you're just making shit up. ETA: According to everything I've read and what's being reported, he is for the fourth time, a permanent resident. I told you what that meant in my last post. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile No really dude. Obama had an aunt (who died not too long ago) and an uncle both living in the U.S. who were/ are illegal aliens. Making rare and special exceptions. And you are still wrong. How do you know he started the process for citizenship? What exactly am I wrong about? Also, I have no idea if he was trying to become a full citizen. He is a legally admitted Permanent Resident/LAPR/Green Card holder. Are you arguing that? At this point, I have no idea what you are arguing. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile DACAs can get permanent residency cards. . You have some bizarre belief that Dreamers dont't transition to permanent citizen status. Your argument has been he couldn't have been a Dreamer. Yet you offer no proof of it. In your world, he is as has always been a permanent resident. never an illegal alien at any point. Reread your earlier posts. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 3:02:23 PM EDT
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I know what a permanent resident is. I stated what it was in the quote tree that you cut out. Do you have a link to the Dreamers who received green cards and then had them revoked? I'd like to read more about that. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
I know what a permanent resident is. I stated what it was in the quote tree that you cut out. Do you have a link to the Dreamers who received green cards and then had them revoked? I'd like to read more about that. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile The Obama administration issued multitudes of H1B Visas between 2014 to 2015. H1B visas are the primary US Work Visa for professionals & students from all over the world or in the USA, who work in specialty occupations. Valid up to 6 years, dual intent visa (can apply for Green Card) They were under an injunction to not issue these visas to illegals which allow the individual to apply for a green card. When you apply for a green card under the visa you are supposed to remain in the U.S. or the process starts over. The Obama Administration has thrown out the rules, giving these out to illegal aliens who never applied in their home country. They then issued the permits after the injunction was issued in 2015 by a federal judge. The work permits are the first step in getting the green card (which were changed to blue the last time I had my hands on one). The work permits were valid for up to 6 years but could be renewed indefinitely until the green card was obtained. Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson asked a judge not to find him and other Obama administration officials in contempt after his agency recovered work permits mistakenly issued after the court halted a controversial immigration initiative.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-01/u-s-officials-ask-judge-to-drop-immigration-contempt-threat http://apnews.myway.com/article/20150801/us-immigration-lawsuit-1e64b7367f.html "U.S. District Judge Andrew Hanen has previously criticized the federal government's actions in the lawsuit, saying it had been "misleading" after officials revealed that more than 108,000 people had already received three-year reprieves from deportation as well as work permits when the judge had believed that no action would be taken before he issued a ruling. Justice Department attorneys apologized for any confusion but insisted the reprieves were granted under a 2012 program that wasn't affected by the injunction. Obama said in November when putting forth the executive order that lack of action by Congress forced him to make sweeping changes to immigration rules on his own. The coalition of states argues Obama's action is unconstitutional. A ruling on an appeal of Hanen's injunction is pending from the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans, which heard arguments in the case on July 10." Work permit 
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How did he get a green card in the first place if he is only 18? Does he have a parent that is a current U.S. citizen? Does he have a child that is a U.S. citizen? Or was he issued one under Obama's amnesty since 2012? Has to be some reason he was not deported and green card revoked when he was arrested for burglary. Except Obama Administration has thrown out those rules. No one gets deported now except those caught at the border who don't protest deportation. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 3:09:46 PM EDT
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But the Chamber of Commerce needs these people to keep wages down!
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Posted: 8/2/2015 3:23:21 PM EDT
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According to the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), 18-year-old Jesus Yeizon Deniz-Mendoza, from Mexico, was legally admitted to enter the United States at the San Ysidro Port of Entry May 31, 2013.
The following is an official statement from ICE, regarding what could happen if Deniz is convicted of a crime:
This individual does not have any criminal convictions, and, as a permanent resident, is not currently removable. Thus, an ICE detainer cannot be placed on the individual at this time. However, ICE is closely monitoring this case and coordinating with local authorities. If he is convicted for a criminal offense that allows him to be removed from the country, after the completion of sentence, ICE intends to take him into custody and pursue his removal from the United States. The Administration has set enforcement priorities to make sure our resources are focused on apprehending and removing convicted criminals, gang members, recent border crossers, and the most significant threats to public safety and national security. Through the Priority Enforcement Program, we are working with state and local law enforcement every day to ensure that these individuals are taken into federal custody to be removed from the country. These efforts to keep our communities safe and our nation secure are essential to our mission. I read that both his parents live in Mexico. If he was 16 when he entered the US legally in 2013, how did he get a green card? An immigrant usually has to go through a three-step process to get permanent residency. The whole process may take several years, depending on the type of immigrant category and the country of chargeability. An applicant (alien) in the United States can obtain two permits while the case is pending after a certain stage is passed in green card processing (filing of I-485). The first is a temporary work permit known as the Employment Authorization Document (EAD), which allows the alien to take employment in the United States. The second is a temporary travel document, advance parole, which allows the alien to re-enter the United States. Both permits confer benefits that are independent of any existing status granted to the alien. But there’s still some question regarding how Mendoza was able to get legal status back in May 2013. From the Washington Times.
Mr. Deniz is Mexican, and the Obama administration deems him a legal permanent resident who entered the country legally on May 31, 2013 — though they didn’t say how he earned that status initially. Was then 16-year-old Mendoza admitted to the U.S. as a DREAMer? Did he actually enter the U.S. in May 2013 or that’s the date the U.S. declared him a legal immigrant? What else don’t we know? So many questions. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 3:39:12 PM EDT
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The Obama administration issued multitudes of H1B Visas between 2014 to 2015. H1B visas are the primary US Work Visa for professionals & students from all over the world or in the USA, who work in specialty occupations. Valid up to 6 years, dual intent visa (can apply for Green Card) They were under an injunction to not issue these visas to illegals which allow the individual to apply for a green card. When you apply for a green card under the visa you are supposed to remain in the U.S. or the process starts over. The Obama Administration has thrown out the rules, giving these out to illegal aliens who never applied in their home country. They then issued the permits after the injunction was issued in 2015 by a federal judge. The work permits are the first step in getting the green card (which were changed to blue the last time I had my hands on one). The work permits were valid for up to 6 years but could be renewed indefinitely until the green card was obtained. http://apnews.myway.com/article/20150801/us-immigration-lawsuit-1e64b7367f.html "U.S. District Judge Andrew Hanen has previously criticized the federal government's actions in the lawsuit, saying it had been "misleading" after officials revealed that more than 108,000 people had already received three-year reprieves from deportation as well as work permits when the judge had believed that no action would be taken before he issued a ruling. Justice Department attorneys apologized for any confusion but insisted the reprieves were granted under a 2012 program that wasn't affected by the injunction. Obama said in November when putting forth the executive order that lack of action by Congress forced him to make sweeping changes to immigration rules on his own. The coalition of states argues Obama's action is unconstitutional. A ruling on an appeal of Hanen's injunction is pending from the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans, which heard arguments in the case on July 10." Work permit http://shusterman.com/images/employmentauthorizationdocument.jpg Permanent resident http://www.immihelp.com/greencard/images/green-color-green-card.bmp http://www.messinglawoffices.com/docimages/rippedoff/i-551old89L.jpg How did he get a green card in the first place if he is only 18? Does he have a parent that is a current U.S. citizen? Does he have a child that is a U.S. citizen? Or was he issued one under Obama's amnesty since 2012? Has to be some reason he was not deported and green card revoked when he was arrested for burglary. Except Obama Administration has thrown out those rules. No one gets deported now except those caught at the border who don't protest deportation. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I know what a permanent resident is. I stated what it was in the quote tree that you cut out. Do you have a link to the Dreamers who received green cards and then had them revoked? I'd like to read more about that. The Obama administration issued multitudes of H1B Visas between 2014 to 2015. H1B visas are the primary US Work Visa for professionals & students from all over the world or in the USA, who work in specialty occupations. Valid up to 6 years, dual intent visa (can apply for Green Card) They were under an injunction to not issue these visas to illegals which allow the individual to apply for a green card. When you apply for a green card under the visa you are supposed to remain in the U.S. or the process starts over. The Obama Administration has thrown out the rules, giving these out to illegal aliens who never applied in their home country. They then issued the permits after the injunction was issued in 2015 by a federal judge. The work permits are the first step in getting the green card (which were changed to blue the last time I had my hands on one). The work permits were valid for up to 6 years but could be renewed indefinitely until the green card was obtained. Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson asked a judge not to find him and other Obama administration officials in contempt after his agency recovered work permits mistakenly issued after the court halted a controversial immigration initiative.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-01/u-s-officials-ask-judge-to-drop-immigration-contempt-threat http://apnews.myway.com/article/20150801/us-immigration-lawsuit-1e64b7367f.html "U.S. District Judge Andrew Hanen has previously criticized the federal government's actions in the lawsuit, saying it had been "misleading" after officials revealed that more than 108,000 people had already received three-year reprieves from deportation as well as work permits when the judge had believed that no action would be taken before he issued a ruling. Justice Department attorneys apologized for any confusion but insisted the reprieves were granted under a 2012 program that wasn't affected by the injunction. Obama said in November when putting forth the executive order that lack of action by Congress forced him to make sweeping changes to immigration rules on his own. The coalition of states argues Obama's action is unconstitutional. A ruling on an appeal of Hanen's injunction is pending from the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans, which heard arguments in the case on July 10." Work permit http://shusterman.com/images/employmentauthorizationdocument.jpg Permanent resident http://www.immihelp.com/greencard/images/green-color-green-card.bmp http://www.messinglawoffices.com/docimages/rippedoff/i-551old89L.jpg How did he get a green card in the first place if he is only 18? Does he have a parent that is a current U.S. citizen? Does he have a child that is a U.S. citizen? Or was he issued one under Obama's amnesty since 2012? Has to be some reason he was not deported and green card revoked when he was arrested for burglary. Except Obama Administration has thrown out those rules. No one gets deported now except those caught at the border who don't protest deportation. So they were issued H1B visas, not green cards, correct? That is a pretty significant difference. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 3:44:58 PM EDT
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It's not like the Obama administration would ever knowingly give criminals permanent resident status.....
ALLEGED DACA RECIPIENT CHARGED WITH TWO ADDITIONAL LEWD ACTS WITH A CHILD A man charged with child molestation and distribution of child pornography and allegedly granted executive amnesty under a 2012 executive action by President Barack Obama has been charged with two additional felony counts of lewd and lascivious acts with a child under 14 years of age. In May Breitbart News reported on questions lodged with the Obama Administration from Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-IA) regarding the alleged molester Edgar Covarrubias-Padilla’s immigration status. Whistleblowers alleged that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement knew of the child exploitation investigation of the camp counselor back in November 2014. link Just molesting children that Americans refuse to molest. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 3:51:51 PM EDT
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So they were issued H1B visas, not green cards, correct? That is a pretty significant difference. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile That's what they are admitting to the judge, but they have already been caught lying to the judge twice which has resulted in the contempt hearing. The administration has been issuing green cards without going through the usually process. They aren't saying how the murderer in Montana managed to get a green card and enter the US legally in 2013 at 16 years of age. Likely crossed the border and was deemed legal under Obama's amnesty being an unaccompanied minor. A 16 year old is not likely to be issued a work permit to legally enter the US for work purposes. How did he get a green card to enter the US at 16? Without first getting a visas? If his parents live in Mexico? |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 3:54:55 PM EDT
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DACAs can get permanent residency cards. . You have some bizarre belief that Dreamers dont't transition to permanent citizen status. Your argument has been he couldn't have been a Dreamer. Yet you offer no proof of it. In your world, he is as has always been a permanent resident. never an illegal alien at any point. Reread your earlier posts. You made the claim in your title, I called bullshit. Back-up your claim. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 3:56:17 PM EDT
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I flatly refuse to call these people "Dreamers".
I recommend that we stop letting liberals define everyone and frame every debate the way they want it. Manipulative little kunts. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 6:25:53 PM EDT
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You made the claim in your title, I called bullshit. Back-up your claim. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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DACAs can get permanent residency cards. . You have some bizarre belief that Dreamers dont't transition to permanent citizen status. Your argument has been he couldn't have been a Dreamer. Yet you offer no proof of it. In your world, he is as has always been a permanent resident. never an illegal alien at any point. Reread your earlier posts. You made the claim in your title, I called bullshit. Back-up your claim. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile While it's speculation given that he was granted the special status while a minor, after leaving the US, then returning with the blessings, I'm not the one claiming it's an impossibility (which it is not). That's on you. So prove your point.... |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 6:26:38 PM EDT
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Since you are calling bullshit, prove it (in other words).
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