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Posted: 12/27/2002 6:15:52 AM EDT
Firearms amnesty to tackle surge in gun crime By Jason Bennetto, Crime Correspondent 27 December 2002 A national firearms amnesty is to be held in the new year to tackle the growing menace of gun crime. New laws to [b]outlaw carrying replica firearms[/b] and a minimum five-year jail sentence for being caught with a gun are also expected to be announced and a [b]national guns database[/b] and [b]tracing agency[/b] are to be set up. The guns amnesty, agreed by Britain's chief constables, is planned for April, May and June. It will follow similar schemes held after the 1996 Dunblane and 1987 Hungerford massacres and reflects the growing state of alarm about the escalating gun threat on Britain's streets. More than 60,000 weapons were handed in during the two amnesties but the police believe hundreds of thousands of guns are still circulating. New figures to be published by the Home Office in January will show a record number of crimes involving firearms. Guns are being used to carry out revenge shootings between rival gangsters and drug dealers, for robberies, muggings, and even as fashion accessories among young men out to impress. The Metropolitan Police announced last week it was setting up full-time armed patrols in trouble spots and [b]dramatically raising the number of firearms officers it employs[/b]. The move follows an increase in shootings in London, particularly between competing crack cocaine dealers and, more recently, heroin traffickers. In response, chief constables plan a firearms amnesty, in which [b]gun owners will be asked to hand over weapons to the police[/b] or drop them in special protective bins. David McCrone, the Deputy Chief Constable of Greater Manchester Police and chairman of the Association of Chief Police Officers' criminal use of firearms group, said: "The amnesty has the support of all the chief constables. It will probably be in the April, May, June period. We have just written to the Home Secretary [David Blunkett] and the Attorney General [Lord Goldsmith] for their support." During the amnesty that followed the Dunblane massacre – in which 16 children and a teacher were shot dead by Thomas Hamilton in their primary school gymnasium – 15,360 firearms were handed in. Some 48,000 guns were handed in during a similar amnesty after the Hungerford massacre, in which 16 people were shot by Michael Ryan. In an amnesty in 1968, 25,000 firearms were recovered. Mr McCrone said the UK has about 150,000 deactivated weapons – which criminals could reactivate – and "millions" of replica and blank- firing guns. In addition, an estimated six million air guns are in circulation. No one knows how many working firearms are held by criminals, although the growing reliance on converted weapons suggests they are in short supply. An imitation firearm is used in about 60 per cent of armed robberies, which are currently on the increase. Derek Bennett, 29, was shot dead by a police marksman in Brixton last year while carrying what police thought was a handgun. It was later discovered that the weapon was a cigarette lighter. Many replica guns are easily converted into working weapons. The police recently discovered that thousands of Italian ME8 replica handguns were being imported into Britain and converted. The manufacturer has since halted the export. Police in London seize 144 firearms a month – a 23 per cent leap on last year's figures.
Link Posted: 12/27/2002 6:20:30 AM EDT
Those poor morons. The really sad part is that they really think it will DO something to curb crimes with guns.
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Link Posted: 12/27/2002 6:51:14 AM EDT
Those poor, unarmed people. I'm glad they are spreading it over a period of several months or else all those cocaine and heroin dealers will be climbing all over themselves rushing to turn in their illegal weapons. I want to know what they intend to do with "an estimated six million air guns are in circulation". Say it ain't so. Oh, the humanity!
Link Posted: 12/27/2002 7:07:14 AM EDT
Damn, I would love to get a hold of one of those "bins" for dropping the guns off. I bet there would be some great treasures in those!! [beer]
Link Posted: 12/27/2002 7:19:33 AM EDT
So let's get this straight. Each time there is an amnesty period, tens of thousands of sheeple turn in their guns. Then, because the gun crime rate goes [b]UP[/b] after that, they need to add armed patrols. People then freak out and call for [b]more[/b] gun control. Um, people in England are funny![grenade]
Link Posted: 12/27/2002 7:25:26 AM EDT
They are the same everywhere. They wrote all of that and never noticed that the drug gangs are not what you might call "English." These "drug dealers" are some of their freedom loving refugees from places like the Caribbean and the Near East.
Link Posted: 12/27/2002 8:50:45 AM EDT
Good! They are all getting what they deserve.
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Link Posted: 12/27/2002 9:35:39 AM EDT
Hmmm...They have a high gun crime rate, maybe as high or higher than the u.s. (we won't know until they post their figures) They have NO legal firearms. We have hundreds of millions. Something tells me that English culture is just downright barbaric. That same voice also tells me it is because the people are cowards. God bless America.
Link Posted: 12/27/2002 10:41:52 AM EDT
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Let's see, the cops admit that the violence is by heroin and crack dealers but they are asking "gun owners" to turn in their firearms? HAAAAAHAAAAHAAAAAHAAA! Lymie schmucks.
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Link Posted: 12/27/2002 1:23:15 PM EDT
Just remember this when they get invaded by Germany again. They will be begging the US to send over guns. The US will ask gunowners to donate firearms to help those morons. Send them your airsoft guns. If they can't be trusted with firearms now, why should we trust them when they need them. TXLEWIS
Link Posted: 12/27/2002 3:08:36 PM EDT
Where'd they say those bins were? Special ones for Purdeys?
Link Posted: 12/27/2002 3:32:05 PM EDT
Hey wait, I thought that sending out armed police officers would only escalate the violence. If they disarm all of the police officers, then the criminals will take pity on them and give up their weapons too. They need to show that they are serious about eliminating gun violence by disarming the entire police force, and then the army too. [rolleyes]
Link Posted: 12/27/2002 5:09:10 PM EDT
Originally Posted By HighlandMac: Damn, I would love to get a hold of one of those "bins" for dropping the guns off. I bet there would be some great treasures in those!! [beer]
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You know if someone made a bin or two that looked like the govt's, I'd be willing to bet that they could get a few nice guns. Not that breaking the law crossed my mind.
Link Posted: 12/27/2002 5:31:12 PM EDT
After the amnesty... Lets invade! the U.S. could now have an Island colony...
Link Posted: 12/27/2002 6:03:53 PM EDT
Link to original article: [url=http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/story.jsp?story=364549&dir=506&host=3]Independent.co.uk[/url]
Link Posted: 12/27/2002 10:08:00 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Neolock:
Originally Posted By HighlandMac: Damn, I would love to get a hold of one of those "bins" for dropping the guns off. I bet there would be some great treasures in those!! [beer]
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You know if someone made a bin or two that looked like the govt's, I'd be willing to bet that they could get a few nice guns. Not that breaking the law crossed my mind.
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Hopefully some enterprising Paddy will figure this out also & cart off a gaggle of shooting irons to N Ireland.......
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