I knew vegas was wrong, but all I could think of was reno, but I knew that wasnt it...my memory is spotty at best...fixed the post.

I think a gangbanger is a gangbanger..Doesn't matter if your a street thug or in a bikergang. They still will kill over their colors and drugs.

I met some members from Hell's Angels from San Francisco. They were ok. Kinda older like in their late 40's and 50's..I wouldn't want to see them during their young and rowdy days.

Thirty + years ago I knew a guy that was an enforcer for the Outlaws. He was a small guy with an attitude twice his size and I once asked him if he was big enough to do the job, He replied...

How BIG do I have to be to pull a trigger ?

Needless to say he was killed in the line of duty a couple of years later.

County mounty?? You familier with "Dumonts", (Tavern), in El Cajon, on the Boulevard?

Texas is Bandido country, mostly keep to themselves but have been known to kick some ass. I went to high school with the guy that became the leader of the local chapter, my buddies and I could go to all the bars and drink and nobody messed with us. He later died of a overdose of alcohol and drugs. The funeral procession was amazing hundreds of bikers in town. We don't here much out of them around here anymore.

I remember when that happened.  I used to live not very far from that bar in Colorado Springs.  The bar was at the intersection of Fillmore and Nevada.  I was looking out the window one night and it looked like 500 cops were down there with lights flashing.  I can't remember if the guy got off or not.  But was was funny is what he said before he opened fire in the bar.  He said, "Nothing personal"  and commenced to unload.  The Sons of Silence had a big funeral or something and decorated the bar on the outside with flowers.  It was really wierd, bikers everywhere.  Then it was over and in a few months the bar was demolished and now a Jiffy Lube is sitting there.  Didn't see any bikers after that.

patsue

There are no good guys in biker gangs. Thats why they refer to themselves as outlaws and 1%ers.

Sonny Barger will have you believe that Hells Angels and other gangs are nothing more than a group of guys that like to ride Harleys and like any other group they have a few bad apples.

The reality is all these groups are criminal organizations. Its easier to become a cop than a Hells Angel. By Sonny Barger's own admission it takes a couple of years of evaluation to become a member. First a person must be accepted as a "hang around" then they are evaluated by the chapter for about a year. After that time they may be accepted as a "prospect" for futher evaluation before being addmitted to the club.

These evaluations are not to determine if you really like riding Harleys. They are to determine if you can keep your mouth shut and are really willing to do whatever it takes on behalf of the club. Contrary to their proclaimations of innocense, these guys are basically organized crime with out the suits and the Italian birth requirement.

Sonny Barger's web site has a few of his interviews as streaming audio. Mostly self serving but interesting listening.