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Posted: 12/6/2002 5:43:10 AM EDT
Well its day 2 of a massive power outage in North Carolina and the Sheeple are out in force. Since yesterday morning the neighbors have been knocking on the door asking if we have extra batteries, flashlights, food etc. Most of the people are clueless on how to survive in an emergency. Around 5 PM last night most had left the neighborhood to stay at hotels even though they had working fireplaces. Most of them knew my wife and I were going to stay put and asked us to keep an eye on things for them. I set up gas lanterns around our property and had the house lit up pretty well with candles. My alarm system went dead around 8.30 PM. Around 2 AM a car came cruising thru and stopped across the street. They left quite quickly when I walked out my front door with a 12 gauge. It was uneventful after that. Starting around 8.00 AM today the calls started asking if everything's OK with their property. I don't mind helping out a neighbor but dammit people, get prepared!
Link Posted: 12/6/2002 5:48:13 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/6/2002 5:57:36 AM EDT
I remember the "blizzard" of '93. I was stuck at a friends house for 9 days. Fortunately, they were close friends of the family. His dad was a cop, he had all sorts of nifty cop hardware for us to tinker with in the back yard. No power, no heat. We had the fireplace going, endless BBQ (had to clean out the fridge). It was fun.
Link Posted: 12/6/2002 5:59:53 AM EDT
I have alot of fun when the power goes out. Lots of candles and oil lamps. Get to BBQ in the middle of winter, great fun. I usually catch up on my reading without ar15.com.
Link Posted: 12/6/2002 6:04:36 AM EDT
Since yesterday morning the neighbors have been knocking on the door asking if we have extra batteries, flashlights, food etc.
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I do not have "extra" food, flashlights, blankets, batteries, fuel, water, ammunition, radios, first aid supplies, clothes, cookware, firewood, etc. I do have enough to sustain my own family through natural disasters and other emergencies. I also have plans to replenish those items that are consumed during extended emergencies.
Link Posted: 12/6/2002 6:10:44 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/6/2002 6:13:06 AM EDT
I hear you DzlBenz. I always keep a good supply of extra everything! In a case like this I'm a little soft hearted but I'll be in a different frame of mind in a worse situation.
Link Posted: 12/6/2002 6:24:46 AM EDT
My sister inlaw lives in Durham NC and she is out of power also. I offered to take the day off and drive a 5000 watt Gen, chainsaw, fuel and other items up to her. She said No thanks I am going to drive to the airport and hop a plane to some place warm. she has it handled IF she can get to the airport
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Link Posted: 12/6/2002 6:50:02 AM EDT
aaa, please let us know more details of your situation and preparations. after being thorough this, anything you would do differently? -r
Link Posted: 12/6/2002 7:17:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/6/2002 7:18:14 AM EDT by AAA]
racebaiter, I've been through this a couple of times. We are in fairly good shape. The only thing I would do differently was to have a backup power supply. Because I'm moving to Virginia in month I never installed one here. I always have a good supply of food, water, propane, regular gas etc. Besides the BBQ grill I have propane camping stoves and lanterns, hurricane lamps, sleeping bags, extra batteries and flashlights. Hell, the last time this happened my wife and I lasted 5 days and had some of the best meals we ever cooked. Also always have a good supply of beer, wine and soda. Not to mention enough ammo to keep a platoon in business for quite awhile. And yes, the generator is already ordered for the new house in VA.
Link Posted: 12/6/2002 7:26:21 AM EDT
as I had mentioned in another post, I had neighbors rioting at my door asking for batteries after 3 hours without power. I keep a nice Y2k-ish stock on hand of various survival equipment and sundries.
Link Posted: 12/6/2002 7:26:41 AM EDT
As an alternative to MRE's I get the plastic packs of Ramen noodles from Sam's club. Just add hot water and the magic happens. I know what will happen, when a disaster strikes I won't have enough water. Even then I will have plenty of food but not as easy to carry.
Link Posted: 12/6/2002 7:30:08 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/6/2002 7:41:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/6/2002 7:43:59 AM EDT by trickshot]
Jesus, dude, what part of NC do you live in? Our power went out at 1am Thursday (and is still out but the trucks were nearby this morning). Nobody caused any trouble where I live though, pretty neighborly, actually. We had plenty of candles, batteries, food, etc. but nobody came by looking for handouts. My first thought during all this hoopla was that it would be a great time for the local gangstas to shake people down since the police were nowhere to be seen anytime in the last two days. But it never happened. The gas log fireplace in our apt. is a piece of shit. I could light the pilot, but the burner has a damn electric switch on it! WTF? It doesn't put out much heat, anyways. Gonna buy a house soon, and a damn generator.
Link Posted: 12/6/2002 7:43:36 AM EDT
After the last four months and going crazy with the camping supplies....I am ready to live for quite awhile without power....I just need more propane bottles, my girlfriend keeps blowing them up......
Link Posted: 12/6/2002 7:58:07 AM EDT
Good Lord. If you've got a fireplace and wood, you've got warmth, a means to cook, hot water, etc. Why on earth leave???
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If you, like several of the guys I work with do, have gas logs. The largest natural gas company in the area is horribly stingy with their tanks. From what I've heard, all of them ran-out of gas the first night. I had to buy my own propane tank to get one large enough for peace of mind. Even then, I have to find help to move it and borrow a truck to carry it somewhere to get it filled, because none of the local companies will deliever to a home for a customer-owned tank.z
Link Posted: 12/6/2002 8:08:51 AM EDT
Originally Posted By AAA: They left quite quickly when I walked out my front door with a 12 gauge.
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[:D]
Link Posted: 12/6/2002 8:15:05 AM EDT
Originally Posted By gomer: I know what will happen, when a disaster strikes I won't have enough water.
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Isn't there like 40 gallons in your water heater? And in your neighbor's abandoned house's water heater? And in his neighbor's abandoned house? Oh, yes I would!
Link Posted: 12/6/2002 8:22:09 AM EDT
Here's a trick that my dad taught me during a snow storm in 96 I belive (I was like 14 or something then). We were back in the "sticks" and were literally the last guys to get our power fixed, it took about 4ish days. (My mom since made dad buy a generator) Our firestove was not in a chimney, it was an actual stove with a place on top for boiling hot water to humidify the room and such (it had a tube that ran the exhaust from the fire to the chimney). Well dad and me both crave steaks and he had gotten sick and tired of eating canned soup and such. So he got out the cooking pan and plopped two steaks (that he had covered in ice to make them keep till we got power back) and threw about all the small firewood that we had chopped for the winter in the stove. [flame] Needless to say those steaks cooked ungodly fast, and were pretty decent considering the circumstances.
Link Posted: 12/6/2002 8:24:42 AM EDT
At least you know who will be visiting you when SHTF.[shotgun]
Link Posted: 12/6/2002 8:31:11 AM EDT
Yo trickshot, We are in the Cottswald area, nice neighborhood but we are not far from Independence Blvd. There has been a gang doing breakins lately so I'm keeping an eye on things And I agree about the fireplace issue, Why have a gas fireplace that you can only use when the electricity is on?
Link Posted: 12/6/2002 8:42:55 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/6/2002 8:49:08 AM EDT
Originally Posted By DoubleFeed:
I hate people. I wish the whole world was just like AR15.com.
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[8D]
Link Posted: 12/6/2002 8:51:07 AM EDT
Originally Posted By DzlBenz:
Originally Posted By gomer: I know what will happen, when a disaster strikes I won't have enough water.
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Isn't there like 40 gallons in your water heater? And in your neighbor's abandoned house's water heater? And in his neighbor's abandoned house? Oh, yes I would!
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Water heater and toilet tanks are a good source of water. This is okay as long as I am able to stay in my house. Some of my neighbors really suck anyway so I don't give a flying flock if they are home or not. I guess during a disaster it wouldn't be such a bad thing to be surrounded by anti's.
Link Posted: 12/6/2002 8:59:50 AM EDT
... Just how many times have you heard, [i]"Wow! I know where I'm coming when SHTF"[/i].? ... I hate that saying. My canned response is "You'd better announce and identify yourself first"
Link Posted: 12/6/2002 9:07:16 AM EDT
Originally Posted By lordtrader: Cases of Diet Pepsi, bottles of wine(in lieu of water [:D] )..........
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I hate to break this to you and AAA but thats not going to do you much good. Its proven that soft drinks actually make you thirstier. They quench your thirst for a time but then cause you to have to consume more and more of the product in a never ending quest for thirst quenching. You'd be much better off with cold bottled water. Gatorade and the like would work aswell. also natural juices. In a survival situation it is common sense to have a product that can sustain you for long periods of time without you having to constantly consume the product until it is gone.
Link Posted: 12/6/2002 9:09:43 AM EDT
This was not a survival situation. This was "we have to make the best of a bad situation."
Link Posted: 12/6/2002 9:13:39 AM EDT
Originally Posted By AAA: Yo trickshot, We are in the Cottswald area, nice neighborhood but we are not far from Independence Blvd.
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Aha, say no more. We are a few miles from Durham, but those miles are precious. Durham had a 5pm curfew and a ban on transporting weapons of any kind as well as a ban on selling alcoholic beverages. Kinda bizarre. Yeah, well, if I lived there, you can be damn sure I would be transporting a weapon all the time, especially when the city's socialist masters told me not to!
Link Posted: 12/6/2002 9:21:17 AM EDT
AAA, What part of VA are you moving to?
Link Posted: 12/6/2002 9:24:36 AM EDT
Not quite sure how much water is been "stored". Usually every 3 months, we try to change out a 5 gallon storage. I've been thinking of putting in a back up generator. We have an old propane tank, big one and it is in the right spot so we could put a back up generator. In theory, the generator could run for a week non stop or longer w/ a full tank. And the meter is close too... everything would be w/ in 25-20 feet of my back door. Here's a funky idea.... any one have those 12 volt low wattage lighting around thier house? Have a friend w/ them and I've been thinking. When the power goes out, could there be a way to wire in a 12 volt battery to run the lights.... that way it isn't so dark at night Find a way to make it automatic. I know emergency lights do it, but bascially wire in the 12 volt yard lights to do the same. Just an idea.... unless they already do it.
Link Posted: 12/6/2002 9:33:43 AM EDT
Hooray, My wife just called, power is back!
Link Posted: 12/6/2002 9:39:08 AM EDT
MrP We just closed on the new house in Manakin-Sabot which is in Goochland county. I'll be working in Richmond so its about a 60 mile round trip commute but I don't mind it at all. Goochland is rural and very gun friendly.
Link Posted: 12/6/2002 9:42:20 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/6/2002 9:50:06 AM EDT
WolfAr15 I agree with you, I do have a large supply of water on hand at all times. But I still like to have some creature comforts around also. Whats not to like about having 15 cases of Northern Neck ginger ale around for when TSHTF? [:D]
Link Posted: 12/6/2002 10:02:26 AM EDT
Originally Posted By WolfAR15: Gatorade and the like would work aswell.
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But don't give it to little kids unless you mix it 1:1 with water. Too much potassium. Messes up their lil hearts. Scott
Link Posted: 12/6/2002 10:04:11 AM EDT
Originally Posted By trickshot: This was not a survival situation. This was "we have to make the best of a bad situation."
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But if you have any common knowledge that the bad situation may be coming in the first place then it only makes sense to prepare for the worst. I have to reiterate whats been said before. You need to be prepared for the worst that is coming. Granted that in most situations the power will be back on in a few days and the roads will be clear for going to the grocery store. But I always ask the question, What if? What if you are out of power for weeks? the roads are not useable? What happens when that pepsi and wine runs out? and it will as much as youll be drinking it. Always ALWAYS have a backup plan. have a generator for instance and youll be able to at least get well water. Or have yourself a pump water purifier or water purification tablets so that you can melt snow and drink it ect ect. But the best idea is to have stuff stocked up. Complement those MRE's with some kind of thirst quencher that will last more than a few days. You can go for many days without food. But not that long without liquids. Why stock up on somthing that youll inevitably run out of in a few days. Try to get the most out of the least. If your like me and youve ever been on a long long hike then youll know that wine and pepsi are useless to quench your thirst & stop dehydration. Prepare for the worst.
Link Posted: 12/6/2002 10:07:55 AM EDT
Originally Posted By AAA: WolfAr15 I agree with you, I do have a large supply of water on hand at all times. But I still like to have some creature comforts around also. Whats not to like about having 15 cases of Northern Neck ginger ale around for when TSHTF? [:D]
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he he he i see you point. too young to drink though. anyone got a case of sam adams they can throw me?
Link Posted: 12/6/2002 10:42:22 AM EDT
Originally Posted By DoubleFeed: I wish the whole world was just like AR15.com.
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Do you really want a world composed of a 90% population of feds, state doj, agent provocateurs and perpetually hostile people?
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