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Posted: 11/10/2002 2:16:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/10/2002 2:17:24 PM EDT by ED_P]
Looks like the current high bidder is from California, so he'll probably have to have the belt fed Commie MG's replaced with welded in 10 round mags. ;-) [url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&mfcisapicommand=ViewItem&item=1871775187[/url] [img]http://ebay2.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_fc4d1577b558afd55102687ec4756a07/i-1.JPG[/img]
Link Posted: 11/10/2002 2:23:25 PM EDT
... that bird is in absolutely beautiful shape. ... gotta love it: "[i]Supersonic flights in any aircraft over the US are limited to certain military test areas. We can get permission for buyer at China Lake and Edwards AFB.[/i]"
Link Posted: 11/10/2002 2:32:41 PM EDT
CA, hmm? what would any decent human being NEED one of those for? They should clearly be banned to prevent criminal misuse.
Link Posted: 11/10/2002 2:55:32 PM EDT
Larry Ellison was going to buy a brand new MiG-29 from the Russians a few years ago, but the ATF wouldn't allow him. Total bullshit.
Link Posted: 11/10/2002 3:03:13 PM EDT
Originally Posted By raven: Larry Ellison was going to buy a brand new MiG-29 from the Russians a few years ago, but the ATF wouldn't allow him. Total bullshit.
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How is that under their jurisdiction? What it's now the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Airplanes....BATFA.
Link Posted: 11/10/2002 3:04:41 PM EDT
Clearly this weapon could easily be missused by gangs and drug dealers. Therefore, it should be banned. [rolleyes]
Link Posted: 11/10/2002 3:11:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/10/2002 3:20:53 PM EDT by Redmanfms]
That's a steal if he gets it for $230,000. A brand new Cessna Skyhawk is $150,000+. Granted the Cessna is probably a whole lot more useful, but it can't go Mach 2.
Link Posted: 11/10/2002 3:13:43 PM EDT
ACK!!! LOOK AT THE BAYONET ON THAT THING!!! IT CAN CLEARLY BE USED ON FLY BY BAYONETTINGS!! BAN IT NOW!
Link Posted: 11/10/2002 3:18:49 PM EDT
Originally Posted By CSUSB_Coyote:
Originally Posted By raven: Larry Ellison was going to buy a brand new MiG-29 from the Russians a few years ago, but the ATF wouldn't allow him. Total bullshit.
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How is that under their jurisdiction? What it's now the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Airplanes....BATFA.
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Yeah, I dont know the details, but Ellison said it was the ATF. I guess the plane's hardpoints and systems weren't de-milled.
Link Posted: 11/10/2002 3:22:43 PM EDT
Originally Posted By nm_man: CA, hmm? what would any decent human being NEED one of those for? They should clearly be banned to prevent criminal misuse.
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I agree. I hope the Bureau of Anything That Functions confiscates the thing and gives it to the DEA.
Link Posted: 11/11/2002 6:48:09 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/11/2002 6:56:16 AM EDT
that is a good deal, my girlfriends dad has been shopping around for an albatros, but this is alot more jet for about the same price
Link Posted: 11/11/2002 7:00:54 AM EDT
LEGP, we could be the first civilian site with air superiority capabilities.......[:D]
Link Posted: 11/11/2002 7:04:11 AM EDT
Cobra: [img]http://ebay2.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_5897b402af161dc65edb9f9e2a70aed6/i-2.JPG[/img] Buy it now price is only 1.2 million. AFARR
Link Posted: 11/11/2002 7:06:45 AM EDT
It must be banned now! "For the Children " of course![:D] BigDozer66
Link Posted: 11/11/2002 7:08:33 AM EDT
WOW that thing is cool! Is flying over the ocean restricted airspace or can this guy fly out over the pacific and play to his hearts content?
Link Posted: 11/11/2002 7:12:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/11/2002 7:13:20 AM EDT by FLGreg]
EBay allows miltary aircraft to be sold but no firearms!!!???!!! Go figure. Feedback from the seller's other auctions: "A trusted seller with great follow-through...I will be back for more!" More what? LOL. Is someone starting a squadran?
Link Posted: 11/11/2002 7:18:51 AM EDT
At least we know it's pre-ban.
Link Posted: 11/11/2002 8:37:50 AM EDT
[img]http://ebay2.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_fc4d1577b558afd55102687ec4756a07/i-4.JPG[/img]
Link Posted: 11/11/2002 8:47:03 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/11/2002 10:19:43 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Muad_Dib: Clearly this weapon could easily be missused by gangs and drug dealers. Therefore, it should be banned. [rolleyes]
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I guess this is why any 50 cal. Bmg is out lawed in L.A.Kalifornistan.I have heard of Low Flight Gangster Open Canopy Fly By Salvos.
Link Posted: 11/11/2002 10:29:16 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Hiwathl:
Originally Posted By Muad_Dib: Clearly this weapon could easily be missused by gangs and drug dealers. Therefore, it should be banned. [rolleyes]
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I guess this is why any 50 cal. Bmg is out lawed in L.A.Kalifornistan.I have heard of Low Flight Gangster Open Canopy Fly By Salvos.
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If I recall, these things have either 20mm or 37mm, or both, cannons.
Link Posted: 11/11/2002 10:37:14 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/11/2002 11:09:54 AM EDT
I wonder if they take PayPal. If I could only read Russian, and had a quarter million bucks lying around. Dang.
Link Posted: 11/11/2002 11:35:48 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ken_mays: If I could only read Russian, and had a quarter million bucks lying around. Dang.
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I've heard of MiG-21s going for $50k. Me, I'd save up for a T-38 in this case. Assuming I had some sort of cash flow.
Link Posted: 11/11/2002 12:36:40 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Redmanfms: That's a steal if he gets it for $230,000. A brand new Cessna Skyhawk is $150,000+. Granted the Cessna is probably a whole lot more useful, but it can't go Mach 2.
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That's true, but imagine the fuel consumption! I wonder how much a fill'er up costs, not to mention maintaining it. It would be pretty dang cool though!!
Link Posted: 11/11/2002 12:46:57 PM EDT
Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Originally Posted By Hiwathl:
Originally Posted By Muad_Dib: Clearly this weapon could easily be missused by gangs and drug dealers. Therefore, it should be banned. [rolleyes]
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I guess this is why any 50 cal. Bmg is out lawed in L.A.Kalifornistan.I have heard of Low Flight Gangster Open Canopy Fly By Salvos.
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If I recall, these things have either 20mm or 37mm, or both, cannons.
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actually, there is a law that restricts guns on aircraft from civilians. i can't recall the exact wording but it is to prevent air piracy. so no matter if the guns were registered before '86 or not, they would still need to be removed in order to pass FAA inspections/ ian
Link Posted: 11/11/2002 12:51:17 PM EDT
at Ellington Field here in Houston there's at least 1 Chinese MIG17 that a fellow owns & allegedly he takes it out over the Gulf to go supersonic. Apparently when he does that he barely has enough fuel to get back to the field to land. I've sat in that one & there was a second one in the hanger but I can't remember if it was being restored or if it was a "parts" plane.
Link Posted: 11/11/2002 3:13:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/11/2002 3:16:31 PM EDT by AcidGambit]
actually, there is a law that restricts guns on aircraft from civilians. i can't recall the exact wording but it is to prevent air piracy. so no matter if the guns were registered before '86 or not, they would still need to be removed in order to pass FAA inspections/
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Tell that to Dillon...
Link Posted: 11/11/2002 4:11:56 PM EDT
Apparently when he does that he barely has enough fuel to get back to the field to land.
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Running out of fuel over open water would be a real bitch — and it's not like they're going to have an aircraft carrier circling in the area to search for you, either! Take one well-used aircraft designed with stolen and ad-hoc technology, manufactured by a nearly-broke nation, maintained by underpaid technicians, documented entirely in a foreign language, shipped to the US under dubious circumstances, and flown by someone with only second-hand knowledge of its idiosyncrasies, and you've got a pretty good recipe for disaster. Sure glad I'm not the guy's life insurance underwriter.
Link Posted: 11/11/2002 4:32:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/11/2002 4:40:17 PM EDT by luger355]
Id purchase it but.... I don't see the factory 8-track quadraphonic sound system installed. How the heck am I supposed to go supersonic in a commie jet if I cant listen to Dmitry Shostakovich, Sergey Prokofiev or Aram Khachaturian in style.
Link Posted: 11/11/2002 4:32:12 PM EDT
NAS Fallon NV, bought (or traded for) an export version of the MIG-29 for their Air Museum. It was owned by a private party in California, and I was told it had been listed on E-Bay. I had the chance to look it over very close, it's amazing how the Soviets designed and built the darn thing. One item stuck out and that was the use of compression bolts and non-flush rivits on exterior surfaces in the construction of the aircraft. I could see that having it be bolted together would facilitate easy repair by just about anyone with a set of wrenches. Compared to our current aircraft a Soviets farmer could unbolt a damaged structure while on a US aircraft it would take special tools and skilled labor. A very cool aircraft. No engines or avionics though. For a lot cheaper (US $29,000.00) you could buy a Mig-17: [url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1871929068[/url] [img]http://ebay2.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_a6e3f4d4d9cd0a67b08593ceb7cffd17/i-1.JPG[/img]
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