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Posted: 10/23/2002 3:30:57 PM EDT
On CNN now!
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 3:33:44 PM EDT
FBI serving search warrants in Tacoma Washington. KING TV in Tacoma is reporting that they are looking for a body. Fox is also reporting that other search warrants are being served across the country. Didn't we just arrest a terror cell in Seattle/Tacoma?
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 3:36:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/23/2002 3:37:10 PM EDT by Fearandloathing37]
FOX has it to...Says they are looking for a body buried in the back yard of a house...Fox also says several other warrants being exicuted ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN SEVERAL STATES. Was'nt it up in Washington State or Oregon where they has that little Middle Eastern Shooter school set up?
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 3:37:41 PM EDT
There was a radical muslim cell busted in Portland recently (they're out on bail courtesy of their mosque, BTW) but I remember reading how Seattle was a especially vulnerable to terrorists, being near Canada, lots of immigrants, etc. Jeez, copycat psycho or Al-Qaeda taking notes. Either way, very unsettling.
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 3:38:56 PM EDT
They have a backhoe on the seen.
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 3:39:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/23/2002 3:41:01 PM EDT by Fearandloathing37]
I wonder if they are looking for the body of the person that owned the stolen Credit card that the shooter wanted the ransom money transferred to? I'm telling you what, If they are running searches all across the country, The lone angry gunman theory just went right out the window.
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 3:41:03 PM EDT
Fox's Brian Wilson's BEST source confirms search warrents being served around the country. Smells like international terrorism
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 3:42:00 PM EDT
hangem high!
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 3:44:27 PM EDT
I would like to invoke my 5th amendment rights. ;) They are saying more search warrants will be served across the country. The cell in the Portland area didn't have a school set up there. I guess one or more of that "cell" joined our military to get basic training, then quit. The "leader" worked for the mayor at one point. Anyway, they were just seen shooting at a gravel pit. I certainly hope everyone that shoots at a gravel pit isn't a terrorism suspect. That is the best place to go shooting in the Northwest.
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 3:47:16 PM EDT
Check your local stations! Where are these other raids going down? We have people all over the country that are members, we have to be able to scoop the media on this.
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 3:47:23 PM EDT
No way! This is no terrorist plot. That is one large backhoe. They are talking about the ground penetrating radar they will use to gather up your buried guns.
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 3:50:04 PM EDT
Portland, OR. Reporting in... [url]http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_1023_news_tacoma_sniper_link.ea77a097.html[/url]
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 3:50:43 PM EDT
Better coverage here than on the boob tube.
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 3:53:21 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ar10er: On CNN now!
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[b][red][size=3]Holy cow![/size=3][/red][/b] You watch CNN?
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 3:55:24 PM EDT
I am not seeing anything on the big three. WTF?
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 3:55:46 PM EDT
A couple of possible outcomes out of this: - If the shooter sees this coverage and realizes that law enforcement is about to uncover something that will reveal his identity, he may very well attempt to escape into some type of deep cover....or he just might say "screw it" and decide to go out in a firefight.
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 3:57:02 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Sukebe:
Originally Posted By ar10er: On CNN now!
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[b][red][size=3]Holy cow![/size=3][/red][/b] You watch CNN?
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Know your enemy! I watch and read plenty of other sources.
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 3:59:30 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 3:59:43 PM EDT
komo news is reporting that the fbi was on the roofs of houses and pulling off branches and taking tree stubs for evidence. It looks like he did some shooting here, now they are looking for the bullets.
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 4:01:43 PM EDT
Fox is talking about the sniper wanting to transfer funds ($10M) to a credit card. They are searching for metallic objects in Washington.
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 4:03:05 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 4:03:30 PM EDT
Fox is reporting that they are now looking for shell cases-not bodies-and checking on the background of a former soldier who used to be based at Ft. Lewis.
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 4:04:56 PM EDT
From the helos in the air you can see that they've sliced up a stump of about 3' dia and removed it from the prop. doing grid search w/metal detector in the back yard now. they said something about a former Ft. Lewis soldier that lived there at one time, could be one of the guys that was picked up in Portland that had enlisted in the Army then dropped out after basic. Don't remember if he had ties to Ft' Lewis or not.
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 4:07:44 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 4:07:50 PM EDT
Looks like they've hauled off some boxed "heavy" things. check your cache.....
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 4:07:55 PM EDT
This is the search: [img]http://www.curvedspace.net/washington.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 4:09:50 PM EDT
NWCN and the local stations pretty much have the same helicopter coverage as FOX. Oh, and about the Portland thing... I guess I was thinking about a different terrorist cell. I think there were some Puget Sound people that were building a camp or compound down in the Portland area too. I'll have to research that a little more.
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 4:11:52 PM EDT
Fox is now reporting that the FBI has been there since 9:00PM last evening. Their man in Montgomery County is reporting that all warrants and searches are for evidence, no arrests are anticipated.
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 4:12:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/23/2002 4:14:07 PM EDT by BoWilliams]
My guess: The guy(s) has been using the stump for target practice with suppressed rifle. Casings all over the yard. Ballistic evidence JackPot! That's it.
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 4:14:46 PM EDT
Any ideas on the tree stump? Wouldn’t think anybody would’ve had been shooting into it, esp. with a .223. Whatever's happening, I really hope it pans out!!
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 4:15:43 PM EDT
Originally Posted By BoWilliams: My guess: The guy has been using the stump for target practice with his suppressed rifle. Casings all over the yard. That's it.
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Except that the sniper doesnt use a suppressed rifle[>:/]
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 4:17:30 PM EDT
A guy on the seen just reported that the u-haul is half full, and that everything in the u-haul is covered.
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 4:17:44 PM EDT
And who does target practice in their back yard in the middle of town... .223's are a little loud.
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 4:17:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/23/2002 4:21:11 PM EDT by Boom_Stick]
Originally Posted By BoWilliams: My guess: The guy(s) has been using the stump for target practice with suppressed rifle. Casings all over the yard. Ballistic evidence JackPot! That's it.
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That was exactly my guess too. ArmdLbrl, he probably used an illegal supressor when he was practicing to be a killer? Possible.
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 4:18:32 PM EDT
I would find it hard to believe he was practicing with a suppressed rifle - otherwise, why wouldn't he be using it now so as to be even more covert? IMHO, the media whores have no idea what's going on. They keep on spewing speculation after speculation. By the way, did anyone catch Fox reporting that Chief Charles "the Ladies Man" Moose has a PHD? hehehe...
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 4:18:57 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ArmdLbrl:
Originally Posted By BoWilliams: My guess: The guy has been using the stump for target practice with his suppressed rifle. Casings all over the yard. That's it.
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Except that the sniper doesnt use a suppressed rifle[>:/]
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Maybe the neighbors will say they heard lots of gunfire in the past. Who know's?
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 4:21:15 PM EDT
Originally Posted By turborocket: I would find it hard to believe he was practicing with a suppressed rifle - otherwise, why wouldn't he be using it now so as to be even more covert? IMHO, the media whores have no idea what's going on. They keep on spewing speculation after speculation. By the way, did anyone catch Fox reporting that Chief Charles "the Ladies Man" Moose has a PHD? hehehe...
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From where? Bullwinkles school of the mounties?
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 4:21:56 PM EDT
Even a suppressed .223 is going to be awfully loud because of the sonic boom. Maybe he was shooting from inside the house? They’re getting a lot of hits in the yard, but that could easily be nails or such.
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 4:22:58 PM EDT
HA HA HA HA!!! did you see that guys mullet!!...guy got interviewed on FOX news with a huge mullet. Its great!
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 4:26:38 PM EDT
CNN just showed an enormous tree being hauled off by that little'ol backhoe.
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 4:27:01 PM EDT
They are talking about the search being related to a former Ft. Lewis soldier.
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 4:27:45 PM EDT
Was'nt it up in Washington State or Oregon where they has that little Middle Eastern Shooter school set up?
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Are you thinking of the small arms and explosives school in New Mexico? The one owned by an illegal alien from Canada, specializing in training Middle Eastern men in the finer arts of demolition, small arms and light rockets?
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 4:28:47 PM EDT
Originally Posted By BoWilliams: My guess: The guy(s) has been using the stump for target practice with suppressed rifle. Casings all over the yard. Ballistic evidence JackPot! That's it.
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I called it!
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 4:30:54 PM EDT
Cheif of police in Tacoma will not even say that they removed a tree stump. WTF?
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 4:32:56 PM EDT
Uh-oh...I've got several lead-filled stumps on my property. And I think I hear choppers. cynic
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 4:35:45 PM EDT
Here we go. Next they will be knocking on YOUR door, since you have one of them .223 caliber rifles. I doubt the supressor thing. They are legal to own here in Washington, but not shoot. That area is too congested for someone to take a supressed rifle out in his back yard, without freaking out the neighbors. There are too many gravel pits you can drive to in this area to shoot without having to see another person, to take the risk of firing it in a little back yard.
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 4:36:21 PM EDT
I have 5 witnesses who will say I was at the range today.
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 4:36:30 PM EDT
shepard smith had to cut off the forensic's guy cuz shepard was starting to sound like an idiot...
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 4:37:56 PM EDT
Maybe the FBI and ATF need a shrubbery?
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 4:38:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/23/2002 4:40:54 PM EDT by ar10er]
AP says the guy has lived there for 8 years, and that the cops are looking for brass and bullets with his permission.
Link Posted: 10/23/2002 4:39:10 PM EDT
i've been out in the back yard throwing out 150 pounds of steel #8 shot. what did i miss?
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