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Posted: 10/11/2002 6:22:59 AM EDT
Another shooting 9:45 this morning...appears to be in Frederick, MD.  Reporters heard the shot...will try and get a link.

Edited to add:  May be in Fredricksburg, VA.  Witness sees white Chevrolet Astra van pull away.
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 6:29:30 AM EDT
[#1]
Okay, it's in Fredericksburg, VA.

Police seeking white Astra van with ladder racks.
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 6:30:45 AM EDT
[#2]
My girlfriend works right next door at Capitol One.

This is fucked up.
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 6:32:31 AM EDT
[#3]
Another forum thread mentioning something about a high-speed chase in that area after such a vehicle.  Dear God let's hope this is the person(s) and they finally nail the sick and twisted bastards.
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 6:33:15 AM EDT
[#4]
Get him! get him this time please!
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 6:37:55 AM EDT
[#5]
They have a white van pulled over on 395 with a yellow ladder on top.  Police have surrounded it.  Not sure what's going on.

Traffic on I95 has been completely stopped.

Just heard reports, male victim from shooting this AM.
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 6:42:21 AM EDT
[#6]
Fox doesn't say anything about a van being pulled over..

Link Posted: 10/11/2002 6:44:45 AM EDT
[#7]
Praying they get this guy today...Initial reports of a white Chevy Astro van suspect vehicle.  ABC local news reports hearing on police scanner that the van has the words "Total Recall" written on it.
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 6:47:57 AM EDT
[#8]
They're pulling over just about any white van in the area.  

[url]www.msnbc.com/m/lv/default.asp[/url] has live coverage and streaming video feeds if you've got a fast enough connection.
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 6:49:13 AM EDT
[#9]
You can get this live at the MSNBC stream.

If you have broadband, GO!

Link Posted: 10/11/2002 6:57:14 AM EDT
[#10]
I don't want to see any officals hurt, but maybe a barrel will emerge from the van and then officials will turn it into swiss cheese.  Then again, part of me wants to hear the psycho(s) out and what their "drive" was.
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 6:58:03 AM EDT
[#11]
They're now saying reports of van w/ "Total Recall" on it are false.  Still looking for white Astro van at this time.
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:05:00 AM EDT
[#12]
Please get this pr!ck so we can fry his ass!!!
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:09:15 AM EDT
[#13]
Fox just said that the victim that has been taken to the hospital with head shot wound, this is still pretty fresh news and Fox has been getting a lot of stuff wrong lately, so there is no telling if it's really a head shot or not.
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:14:10 AM EDT
[#14]
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...maybe a barrel will emerge from the van and then officials will turn it into swiss cheese...
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[sniper][heavy][50][rocket]
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:14:25 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:16:47 AM EDT
[#16]
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:18:54 AM EDT
[#17]
I dunno....Law enforcement has AR15's to and they do a heck of a good job of making the passenger compartments of white mini-vans into swiss cheese too
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:19:34 AM EDT
[#18]
They are also asking folks to report all folks that have a gun case, 0.223 caliber rifles.

If you have a white van, a gun case, and 0.223 caliber rifle register to you, then you are being required to justify your ownership of these three items.

Can you say witch hunt?
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:20:18 AM EDT
[#19]
These people are so fucking stupid in infuriates me.  They're never gonna be able to sift through any worthwhile leads when they ask people to call for stupid shit like that.
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:21:06 AM EDT
[#20]
Confirmed that the victim just died.
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:21:32 AM EDT
[#21]
But alas I'm afraid that the police are on anouther fruitless White van hunt.

The public witnesses just want to see a white van when they hear the shot and are picking out the first white van they see as the vehicle where the shots must have come from.
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:22:19 AM EDT
[#22]
Yes fox just confirmed victim has died.
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:22:34 AM EDT
[#23]
Next, they'll report that this person is wearing shoes...  and to report everyone seen wearing shoes!

[s]1-800-GET-SHOEs[/s]  ([i]line too busy[/i])
1-800-SHOE-TIP
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:25:14 AM EDT
[#24]
the idiot box says he is reacting to what the media/sherrif say on the air.

Would be nice to get some divine intervention to catch this asswipe.
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:25:31 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
Get him! get him this time please!
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Amen, brother. If this keeps up much longer the only guns we'll be allowed to keep will be staple guns, and they'll rename them and require a 10-day waiting period...

Edited to add:

I just re-read my post and I realized that it sounded as though I wasn't concerned with the victims. Not so. We need to catch this animal before he kills again. My sister and her family live in the DC area, BTW.
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:25:47 AM EDT
[#26]
Whoa to those who live in that area and drive a white van... eyes are on you.  Oh, and all of you who use one of those things called a "gun case" to carry your ".223 calibred rifle" to the range--you're being watched.

This just in!  Be on the lookout for moving objects on the roads with tires and people at the range with projectiles coming out of their rifles!
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:26:19 AM EDT
[#27]
Victim has died.
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:26:32 AM EDT
[#28]
ok.

I just took my shoes off, AntiUSSA.  Tell the sheeple what to do next...

[/sarcasm]
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:26:54 AM EDT
[#29]
Just reported that the victim is deceased.  So it may have been a head shot.  This time is the first time he shot in crappy weather, I don't know what that means, but it takes more dedication to sit in the rain I'd think.
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:27:32 AM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
the idiot box says he is reacting to what the media/sherrif say on the air.
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Interactive TV
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:28:12 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:28:33 AM EDT
[#32]
You really think this asshole still has his white van?
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:30:12 AM EDT
[#33]
Watching the live feed...

Never knew there were so many white vans.  The shooters picked their ride wisely!

Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:30:43 AM EDT
[#34]
Now FOx News just put out the Total Recall writing on the white van thing again, I thought they just ruled that out?

There are a awful lot of techies here at AR15.com, and Total Recall sounds tech related, does anybody know of a company that uses the name Total Recall as there trade mark?
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:32:49 AM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
FUCKING BULLSHIT![V]

Totally OT

but I've got the cops in my Precinct asking me about the .223 round now and if I have a "fullauto" AR-15, this so called sniper is making us look really bad.
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I'm getting the same thing where I work.  THe CEO comes by my desk and asks, "Hey, are you that guy who's doing all the shooting over in Maryland?"

I said, "No, but keep it up and I'll be the guy on the news for doing an ass-kicking in southwest VA!" [pissed]

Jeez.
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:33:00 AM EDT
[#36]
Only Total Recall I know is the movie.
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:33:13 AM EDT
[#37]
About the bad weather....Gee, it keeps the light weight helicopters on the ground, huh.
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:33:50 AM EDT
[#38]
There are no words to express the anger, anxiety and sadness that I'm certain people are feeling at this time - esp. for those in the area.  How many need to die before they catch this/these POS?!  Yesterday I filled my car up with gas - what a bitch that was.
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:36:41 AM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
You really think this asshole still has his white van?
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OK, so now we are just assuming that this is a MALE?

All the women I know are MUCH better with guns than I am =(
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:37:05 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:37:43 AM EDT
[#41]
This shooting happened at 0930 at I-95 exit 126 in Spotsylvania County, about 5 miles from my house.  A witness said he heard the rifle shot, saw the source was a white Chevy van and saw the van haul ass away from the scene and jump onto I-95 northbound.

I-95, I-395, I-495, I-295 and I-64, and all connecting freeways are CLOSED.  The lawdogs are checking every white Chevy Astro delivery type van.  

Flash message says that there is a logo on the side of the van that says, "Total Recall".  No confirmation yet.

IF any of you guys or your family or friends in VA, NC, MD or the District see this vehicle, ANYWHERE, call the lawmen, especially if you see this scumbag just sitting there quietly doing nothing on a side road...like he's waiting for the heat to die down.

Just heard the man shot died.  [>(]



Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:37:52 AM EDT
[#42]
The weather does not bother this guy a bit, in fact he gets off on the bad weather, it makes him feel more like a military sniper.
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:38:39 AM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
There are no words to express the anger, anxiety and sadness that I'm certain people are feeling at this time - esp. for those in the area.  How many need to die before they catch this/these POS?!  Yesterday I filled my car up with gas - what a bitch that was.
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Hang in there 1shot, I can recall when I was a student in Gainesville when we had what seemed like one murder after another all occur within a three mile radius of Archer rd.  I lived alone and the only protection I could afford was a bat.  It sucked, everywhere you go you felt like the guy inb the next car or the guy in line behind you could have been Danny Rawlings (murders name).  Eight people died if I recall correctly and it went on for weeks.

Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:39:19 AM EDT
[#44]
Why do they keep saying he is ramping up his attacks, and that he may be getting reckless?  It was only a week ago he shot 5(FIVE) people dead in 15(FIFTEEN) hours.  How can they possibly say he is ramping up and may be getting reckless when he hasn't even approached that number/frequency again.
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:40:32 AM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:
Quoted:
FUCKING BULLSHIT![V]

Totally OT

but I've got the cops in my Precinct asking me about the .223 round now and if I have a "fullauto" AR-15, this so called sniper is making us look really bad.
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I'm getting the same thing where I work.  THe CEO comes by my desk and asks, "Hey, are you that guy who's doing all the shooting over in Maryland?"

I said, "No, but keep it up and I'll be the guy on the news for doing an ass-kicking in southwest VA!" [pissed]

Jeez.
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Good answer to that asshole! Maybe you should threaten him with a lawsuit for libel and harassment.

Fucking DICKHEAD....
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:43:24 AM EDT
[#46]
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A witness said he heard the rifle shot, saw the source was a white Chevy van and saw the van haul ass away from the scene and jump onto I-95 northbound.
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Let's hope the witness got it right, because that's just the kind of information that can break a case like this wide open!

What worries me is that if they miss him this time, he will probably ditch the van.

Also, if the van hauled ass quickly after the shot, it means one of two things: either he's shooting from the driver's seat (not real inconspicuous), or he's got an accomplice, which in my book spells terrorism until proven otherwise...

I can just imagine what the assholes over at DU are saying at this point...
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:46:20 AM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
Why do they keep saying he is ramping up his attacks, and that he may be getting reckless?  It was only a week ago he shot 5(FIVE) people dead in 15(FIFTEEN) hours.  How can they possibly say he is ramping up and may be getting reckless when he hasn't even approached that number/frequency again.
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Probably due to the fact that this is quite possibly the largest manhunt ever to take place, and with all of the LEO's and media  concentrated in one area, the crime spree continues...  

This perp is about as brazen and "in your face"  as anyone ever could be!

Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:47:45 AM EDT
[#48]
Roadblocks are on US1, I95, 395 pulling over every white van, not just Chevy Astros
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:48:42 AM EDT
[#49]
I knew I had heard the Name Total recall before and that they were tech related, There's a company called Total recall, that does data management.
Link Posted: 10/11/2002 7:49:30 AM EDT
[#50]
I hope no one from the board is driving in the area with a white van coming back or going to the range...
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