Why?

I grew up in 'Monkey' County, graduated HS there (Blair) and lived in Rockville, B-CC, and Kensington areas. Got the hell out in 1973 when it became clear which way the State was going.
From Ted Agnew to Parris Glendenning and further Socialism. Been living in Colorado almost thirty years and have noticed recent immigration from the PR of MD, but once they get out here they try to turn it into exactly what they claim to be escaping. Watch out, VA they'll be blaming it on you next! MCPD is good at traffic violations but not at this. They're used to dealing with nannys and their sheeple.

Yes, please remember that your concealed handgun permit is for handguns only.  Most jurisdications around the DC area prohibit the carrying of loaded rifles in a vehicle.  I know Anne Arundel and Piggy County especially frown on loaded magazines even if stashed outside the gun case or compartment the rifle is carried in.

Do not jeopardize the rights of us all by being STUPID.....carry what you are lawfully allowed to carry.  Which in the cae of my Maryland neighbors......ain't much.

Be safe and shoot straight.

Ed

FOX REPORTS GUN SHOTS AT THE U.N. IN NEW YORK!!!

They just had a Captain in the Mont County police speak.  At only one scene was the white Isuzu Truck spotted.  Who knows if they ditched that and are now in another vehicle.

She also said it was only one shot at each location.  Would not say where the shots hit the victims.

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DIE KOFFE DIE!



(edit: too bad it's taking our gun rights dow the tubes with him.)

Are these shooting going to fuck up the republican chances of taking congress this fall?

Ladies and Gentalmen we are under attack!

WTF is going on?????

They are saying the US mission to the UN was the target and that an Asian looking man has been arrested.

Only we would try to ban guns when something like this happens......

If I recall correctly, when a shooting takes place in Isreal, they don't ban guns!  They actually want their people to be armed......

U.N. Shooter in custody. Unknown if shots hit anything.

Looks like all those BS Maryland laws did a lot of good.  I'm sure I'll be selling some pistols and answering a bunch of questions about the three day wait on a handgun in Fairfax at work today.  

FOX reports, Many police cars with lights and sirens, going to a wooded area in Maryland. at least one in custody. unknown if related.

Suspects stopped in Izuzu van from last post in Maryland...UNRELATED TO SHOOTINGS as per FOX News

Search contiues for white Izuzu Van

Supposedly the 1st shot missed, but there have only been 6 shots total and 5 KIA.

I can't believe they just broke into FOX News, with Molly deRamell yakking about the Martha Stewart B.S. WHO GIVES A SHIT...get back to the shooting in Maryland FOX!!!

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I was thinking the same thing.  You bet that Townsend will be playing this up to the hilt, even though it's all happening under her watch.

The suspect(s) are taking advantage of people in defenseless situations (mowing lawn, vaccuming car).  Why can't anti-gun people see that predators SEEK the defenseless.  If we are armed, then they are less apt to confront us.

*I passed by a stopped white IZUZU truck on the beltway, two males are handcuffed and questioned between Georgia and Connecticut Ave. exits. **[/quote]

MierinMD,

Where in Monkey Co. are yu...I live in Bethesda, right down the street fom WhiteFlint.

My Wife works out of the house and is scard SHITLESS.....

 Unfortunately,this tragedy will get dumped on Maryland gun owners and the Republican party. Even though the Dumbo-crats are in office and are responsible for todays laws,they will wiggle out of it.
 As has been pointed out already,this  will only make it less likely Erhlich can win.  I am voting for him anyway no matter what happens.

 If by some chance KKT gets in I plan on relocating either in Virginia or North Carolina.


 I feel for the families of those gunned down. I only hope and pray that their hurt and anger is directed at the guilty and not at law abiding gun owners. This is a BIG setback for democracy instead of socialism in this state!

Fox reports that U.N. Shooter carried Silver Handgun. Made it inside U.N. building and was carrying leaflets of some kind.

Suspect described as Asian in appearance.

Care to bet, that the leaflets are Anti war with Iraq!!!

CNN-UN shooter fired shots into the air, walked over to a briefcase, took out a stack of papers and threw them into the air.  Stood back and waited for police.  CNN has the video.

Fox now reports U.N. gunman to be North Korean dissident, protesting North Korean regime.

I hate to tell you but Israel has some of the most strict gun control laws in the world. Even if you can meet all the criteria to own a firearm you are only allowed 1 handgun and/or 1 rifle (can't be semi auto, "hunting" rifle only). Those people you see walking around israel with m-16s are either Army or a Reserve, normal subjects can't have anything like that.

Ok, do they have the Maryland shooters? Or not?

CrazyIrishman...

Crazy....

We are Fvcked, interms of the upcoming election...

That commercial that Townhead has about Erlich is a JOKE....More AK's and UZI's, showing guys just shooting up the place...

Seriously, I am thinking about moving out of MD..This state does not allows one to even protect themselves. I have lived here all my life (33 yrs) I think it's time to get the HELL out!

They don't have them in custody. [50]

Strudle54 - Do it, you'll never look back.

I just left after 11 years in Columbia.  My friend left Baltimore for VA after 39 years, another left for PA, another left Columbia for PA.  That's just this year.

2 weeks and $19 and I've got a CCW up here in PA.  Lower taxes, FAR better home prices, cheaper food & other items.  Less traffic, fun back roads to drive.......

Trust me, you will thank the Lord you've moved.

Diesel:

Israel requires all able bodies to perform military service of some sort, there are several "classes" who get exempted in one way or the other, but the average Joe is going to serve "x" years in the military.  There are also IDF and IDF reserves, which are like National Guard, but with a lot more work to do.  Plus your regular army and army reserves.  You will see an Israeli in a car pick up a guy carrying a loaded Galil.  If an American saw a person hitchhiking with a loaded M16 we would floor it and run away and then call 911.  Right?

It's a little different mindset, they also make their cockpits like vaults and have had sky marshals in 100% of El Al flights since the late 60's? Early 70's......

Ed

You may want to rethink your assertion about Israelis not being able to legally carry; concealed or not.  About two months ago, an Israeli soccer mom pushing her baby through the supermarket, was involved in a terrorist hostage situation inside the market.  The perp, a young male Palestinian, had the drop on several folks at the front of the store with his commie gun.  If my memory serves me right, he was also wearing the standard-issue Pali gut bomb around his middle.  When she recognized the threat, our intrepid young lady drew her semi-auto pistol from her bag and shot the perp dead with two to the cranium.  We had pics of the dead terrorist posted here.

Again...if my memory serves me, she was feted as a heroine, not arrested for [illegally] carrying concealed.

To settle this, I will contact The Hun.  He'll know.

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Does anyone know of a Maryland or DC news website? Fox hasn't updated their webpage in a while.

Look i don't want to hi-jack this thread with more israel talk but the law is the law and here it is [url]http://www.jpfo.org/israel-firearms.htm[/url]

Ever heard of "Operation Northwoods?"  What if this is the modern incarnation of it, made to "provide irrevocable proof of Iraqi involvement"?

"...Anyway, this new plan, code-named Operation Northwoods, "which had the written approval of the Chairman [Lemnitzer] and every member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, called for innocent people to be shot on American streets..."


[url]http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/jointchiefs_010501.html[/url]

[url]http://www.lewrockwell.com/stromberg/stromberg37.html[/url]



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Five Shot To Death In Montgomery County


1:58 p.m. EDT October 3, 2002 - Five people are dead and police are searching for a gunman or gunmen that they believe are behind the apparent shooting spree.



The shootings started Wednesday evening and continued into Thursday morning.
Police say the victims appear to be chosen at random as they went about their daily chores.

Authorities were attempting to determine whether the shootings late Wednesday and early Thursday were related. "There's a strong possibility that they are all connected," police spokeswoman Joyce Utter said, noting the location and timing of the shootings.

Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose said there's no indication any of the five people killed are in any way related, or had any conflict with anyone.

Police said they are looking for two men in a white Isuzu SUV, a box truck with black lettering on it with damage to the tailgate.

Montgomery County police spokeswoman Capt. Nancy Demme told reporters that there is "an ongoing crime [spree] that we have not experienced before."

The first person killed was a 55-year-old man who was shot in the parking lot of a Wheaton Shoppers Food Warehouse grocery store about 6 p.m. Wednesday, Demme said.

A man operating a lawnmower was killed about 7:45 a.m. Thursday in the White Flint area, and another man was shot at 8:15 a.m. while pumping gas at a Mobil station in the Aspen Hill area. He died at the scene.

About a half-hour later, a woman died at a post office next to the Leisure World retirement community in Silver Spring. The woman was shot in the head, according to a spokesman for the Montgomery County Fire and Rescue Department.

In the fifth shooting, a woman was shot and killed at 10 a.m. at a Shell gas station in Kensington. Mechanics at the gas station said they heard the shots but didn't see the person or persons who killed the woman, who was vaccuuming her van.

Schools in D.C., Montgomery County, Prince George's County and Frederick County have locked their doors and children are being kept inside as a precaution. There are no field trips allowed, and students are not allowed to leave the campuses for lunch. NEWS4 reports Thursday afternoon that police say there has NOT been any threat made to any school.

Morning kindergarten students are being held at the schools and afternoon kindergarten has been canceled.

Moose said Montgomery public schools are still in session, even though they are locked, and the chief said the "schoolkids are safe." Moose is encouraging people not to panic, and especially parents, whom he's urging not to rush to schools to get their kids.

A county police command center is being established in Aspen Hill.

The Baltimore division of the FBI is offering its "full resources" to authorities in Montgomery County. FBI spokesman Barry Maddox said there are about 200 agents in the Baltimore division with responsibility for Maryland and Delaware.

Maryland Gov. Parris N. Glendening issued a statement Thursday afternoon directing the Maryland State Police to "use every tool we have at our disposal to make sure these viscious criminals are caught and brought to justice."

[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com[/url]

This doesn't sound like al-qaeda to me.  Their style is to carefully spend months planning attacks on high-profile targets.  If they were to do something like this team in MD, it would be an attack on a golf course where high ranking politicians and businessmen would be gathered, or on the Presidential motorcade.  Something like that.

These shootings just sound like two crazy assholes to me, randomly shooting people for fun.

But...but...that isn't what they show on tv!

If you buy any of that stuff, you are an idiot.

Why do you insist on blaming George W. Bush for every thing?  It's all a big conspiracy man!

[rolleyes]

One: it's probably a safe bet that these guys won't be taken alive.

Two: I wonder if they have any other firearms close at hand once they have to go into a defensive mode?

Next time you are there, count how many guys are walking amongst you carrying AR derived automatic weapons.  Also make sure to notice which ones are in OD and which ones are wearing black.  Then guesstimate average population of city you are in.....

From what I have been told, in some cities you will see one armed officer for every 40 or 50 citizens.  There is no especially critical need to carry in Israel when the police and military are co involved in your day to day life.  Can you imagine actual ratios like this at a football game or soccer game?  You'd have upwards of 1000 auto armed military watching the hooligans.

Hmmmmmm........

I don't know.  The way to maximize terror is to strike at the people, not the elite.  Besides they would make it as random and UNPREDICTABLE as they could.

Don't forget those training tapes!

Probably some assholes hired by the Brady Bunch to use a .50 in order to get them banned.

Trickshot, you are amazing.  This is not about Iraq or anything else that you or I know of.  Your paranoid conspiracies are amazing.

The link you posted was about a book.  Boy, some source.  Some clown wrote a book, so it's true.  Your other link is to another paranoid idiot, Lew Rockwell, not even worth the waste of time it would take to click on it.

Well, I'm back.

Toured around looking for suspicious "white box" trucks.

Police are out in force.

Haven't heard anything on WTOP on whether or not anybody is in custody.

I think all of us living in the area should take it upon themselves to patrol their home areas.  Take your cell-phone and other "necessities" in order to defend yourself.  Check out subdivisions and remote roads that are distinctly off the beaten path.

Let's find these pricks.

(Strudle54:  I live just off of Rockville Pike, just North of the Beltway.  So this is a little close to home for me)

Sorry, no new info to contribute.

Just that I used to live in Germantown (5years)--right up the road off of the Rockville Pike.

Used to frequent all of the areas where the shooters have popped up.  

I was NEVER armed while living in Md.  Thought about trying to get a permit, but everyone told me it was a lost cause.  And yes, the pussy politicians will use this as an excuse to further attempt to disarm the people--when just the opposite should happen.  

If you live in Mont., PG, or Anne Arundel counties, (hell, all of Md.!) GET OUT NOW.  

I wonder if we will be told the truth about these shitbirds whether they are terrorists or not?

 

If Fox News is reporting correctly, the only white person killed was a women.
Women and Minorities only killed so far[:\]

Could this be a attack of a "angry white man"?

Don't you think this may be dangerous and bad advice?

Im all for fidning these scumbags, but a civilian going out looking for these guys might end up in a body bag if for some resaon he is mistaken as a suspect.

I think we should all keep our eyes open, but going out and patrolling is kind of bad advice IMO.Only my opinion.

I had no idea the BATF opened a Tel Aviv branch, but it sounds lovely.



Of course not, the police will protect them like they always do. Thats what we need here, more police and military escorting us around. Hell I'd turn in my guns immediately if that utopia were to come about.

I don't know why you are upset because i simply stated the truth about the Israelis "God-given" right to self defense.

In fact, I would go over to Israel and inspect your facts for myself but i just can't decide which single firearm i'm going to take with me on my trip to the bastion of liberty that is Israel...Remington or Savage...Remington or Savage.