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Posted: 10/1/2002 5:10:11 PM EDT
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[url]www.bernardwatch.com/rolex.html[/url]
I got my Tag from there. Pretty good prices. I wasn't allowed to buy a Rolex though. [:(!] |
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Posted: 10/1/2002 5:16:06 PM EDT
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Pretty high prices for "used" Rolexes, almost retail.
I'm looking for the NEW watch equivalent of the guy selling at "dealer price." I've seen NEW Submariners around here for 3k and that is what they are charging for used ones. |
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Posted: 10/1/2002 5:20:32 PM EDT
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You should take a look at the Omega Seamasters
I have both Rolex Explorer II and a Omega Seamaster . and I hate to admit that the Seamaster is a better watch for a lot less $$$$ I have done some biz with a Omega Dealer that will do 35% off. Email me if you want the info Pete in NH [img]http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/pubimage.asp?id_=783269[/img] |
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Posted: 10/1/2002 5:25:53 PM EDT
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SA, try this board for info on prices worldwide...
[url]timezone.com/webbbs/cgibin433/forum_rolex.cgi?[/url] ...ask around the guys there. Hope it helps. Arock |
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Posted: 10/1/2002 5:31:37 PM EDT
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In all seriousness, consider ebay from a reputable dealer. I have purchased three Tags from ebay, one a vontage Heuer for $300, one brand new 1500 twotone for $200 and one SeL for $250. Each was list at $1,000-$1,200. Your other option is a trip to New York City. There are many jewelers that deal in used Rolexes when people trade up or tire of a look.
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Posted: 10/1/2002 5:36:53 PM EDT
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I bought a nice Rolex GMT for 40 dollars last year in Kuwait. It is the nicest 40 dollar Rolex I have ever seen,,truly a high quality piece,,,I showed it to a watch collector and he was ready to buy it for his collection of fakes. He said it was the nicest fake he had ever seen. Including plane ticket it was still just under a thousand dollars. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm are you thinking yet,,,hahahahaha
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Posted: 10/1/2002 5:42:11 PM EDT
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Like I said, NOT interested in used, auctions or fakes.
I want a NEW warrantied rolex from a online wholesaler. |
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Posted: 10/1/2002 5:47:03 PM EDT
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I would not sell my fake to you as real,,,or used. I was just making an observation and a little humor.
I would be careful buying a watch on-line,,especially a nice 1000-3000 dollar one. If a new on-line watch is like a "new" perma-silk painted, green follower inserted, 30 round magazine on AR15.com ,,you may get screwed. |
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Posted: 10/1/2002 5:59:33 PM EDT
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If you can afford a rolex, please buy yourself a class 3 toy instead. If you have one already...get another one, or buy me one.
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Posted: 10/1/2002 8:19:41 PM EDT
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Quoted: If you can afford a rolex, please buy yourself a class 3 toy instead. If you have one already...get another one, or buy me one. Sometimes it's funny when the new guys don't know me.[:D] |
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Posted: 10/1/2002 8:26:54 PM EDT
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Steyer, I have never heard of an online wholesaler. To be a Rolex agent I believe you are pretty much locked into selling them at a certain pricepoint. Rolex would not want the watch to become pedestrian by someone selling them in quantity far cheaper than anyone else could. It is about maintaining an exclusivity of the brand.
I am a poor schmuck and I own three Heuers (Tag and pre-Tag) and an Omega. A Rolex would be a pipe-dream for me and that's how they want it. Look at Tudor, manufactured by Rolex, marked as such, same look slight marking variation, half the price. They make the Submariner too. I for one will pipe in and say buy the Seamaster instead. If you are hellbent on the submariner for its looks, and if you liked the original submariner design, check out the Ollech amd Wajs M4 at www.rltwatches.com. Fraction of the price and everyone who has seen mine, including other jewelers who know the name but have never seen one, thought the watch was a $2k watch. |
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Posted: 10/1/2002 8:31:29 PM EDT
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My wife got a jeweler friend to buy an Omega Speedmaster Professional, (the Astronaut's watch) for me as a Christmas present. He got the Vice President of Zales to get it at his discount which was around $950. I never saw it cheaper.
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Posted: 10/1/2002 8:35:31 PM EDT
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HR, I already have a Tudor and a Bucherer. I bought them both in Geneva at The Bucherer and I "should" have bought a Rolex except I was only 17 at the time and didn't quite have the $1,200 US.
I'm looking for the same kind of rogue Rolex agent selling at or near dealer cost that the gun industry seems to be full of. Gotta be some idiot on the net that thinks he can do better at dealer + $5.00 given the extra volume. [:D] I know there are cheaper Chronos out there and some that perform better. I just like the look, feel, weight and yes the fact that it is a Rolex. |
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Posted: 10/1/2002 8:42:31 PM EDT
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Be careful buying online. Im not sure about rolex, but my 2 Breitlings had to be purchased from an authorized dealer or the warranty will not be honored. The Rolex may be real, but if not purchased from authorized dealer, no warranty. If u have ur heart set on a rolex go for it,its status. I think the Breitling is better looking and the Omega is better made.
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Posted: 10/1/2002 8:45:14 PM EDT
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You should try the ebay stores section. It is the same thing as buying at an online retailer if you use the "buy it now" option, as they are online stores.
I've purchased sound equipment and jewelery from ebay stores and they have all worked out OK, as there is an actual store to follow up with if there is a problem. |
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Posted: 10/1/2002 9:10:12 PM EDT
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I checked with a buddy of mine in the business. There are no authorized dealers on the net. You can pick up the authentic submariner in steel on the net for $2400-$2800 if u shop around, but u will only receive a warranty from the shop u buy from not from Rolex.
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Posted: 10/1/2002 9:15:29 PM EDT
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Sounds like a fake Rolex is best for you, or maybe one of the other makes that some suggested. . .kinda like asking how to buy a "cheap" Boss or J. Purdey pair of best guns at Remington prices.
Maybe you'll find a coupon? |
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Posted: 10/1/2002 9:24:22 PM EDT
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Quoted: Sounds like a fake Rolex is best for you, or maybe one of the other makes that some suggested. . .kinda like asking how to buy a "cheap" Boss or J. Purdey pair of best guns at Remington prices. Maybe you'll find a coupon? Are you a professional idiot? I can afford to pay for a Rolex. Just why the hell would I spend $4,000 if I can find the same thing for $2,500? I don't NEED a Rolex, I want one. I will buy one if the price is right. Don't mean suddenly I'm in the market for a $40 knockoff. You've written some truly dumbass shit before but this tops it. Coupon, LOL. |
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Posted: 10/1/2002 9:32:00 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Sounds like a fake Rolex is best for you, or maybe one of the other makes that some suggested. . .kinda like asking how to buy a "cheap" Boss or J. Purdey pair of best guns at Remington prices. Maybe you'll find a coupon? Are you a professional idiot? I can afford to pay for a Rolex. Just why the hell would I spend $4,000 if I can find the same thing for $2,500? I don't NEED a Rolex, I want one. I will buy one if the price is right. Don't mean suddenly I'm in the market for a $40 knockoff. You've written some truly dumbass shit before but this tops it. Coupon, LOL. Take it easy, SteyrAUG, and lighten up, fella! |
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Posted: 10/1/2002 9:52:47 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Sounds like a fake Rolex is best for you, or maybe one of the other makes that some suggested. . .kinda like asking how to buy a "cheap" Boss or J. Purdey pair of best guns at Remington prices. Maybe you'll find a coupon? Are you a professional idiot? I can afford to pay for a Rolex. Just why the hell would I spend $4,000 if I can find the same thing for $2,500? I don't NEED a Rolex, I want one. I will buy one if the price is right. Don't mean suddenly I'm in the market for a $40 knockoff. You've written some truly dumbass shit before but this tops it. Coupon, LOL. Don't jump the gun on ridiculing him about a coupon. I buy from Ashford.com on occasion and they quite often have coupons available for either dollar amounts or percentages off. I did a quick search and didn't find any coupons right now but around the holidays you can normally find some. Last year I picked up a couple of Seiko Kinetics that retail for $700 for $125 each. |
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Posted: 10/1/2002 10:06:18 PM EDT
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The best place I've seen (not bought, though I have dreams about platinum Daytonas') Rolex online is EBay through an established dealer. I think youre gonna be better off going to a local place and bargining. I got my GMT Master II from London Jewlers and they did deal. I think 15% off retail. I'd pull the trigger if I were you, Rolex raises retail prices every few months.
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Posted: 10/1/2002 10:14:54 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Sounds like a fake Rolex is best for you, or maybe one of the other makes that some suggested. . .kinda like asking how to buy a "cheap" Boss or J. Purdey pair of best guns at Remington prices. Maybe you'll find a coupon? Are you a professional idiot? I can afford to pay for a Rolex. Just why the hell would I spend $4,000 if I can find the same thing for $2,500? I don't NEED a Rolex, I want one. I will buy one if the price is right. Don't mean suddenly I'm in the market for a $40 knockoff. You've written some truly dumbass shit before but this tops it. Coupon, LOL. Don't jump the gun on ridiculing him about a coupon. I buy from Ashford.com on occasion and they quite often have coupons available for either dollar amounts or percentages off. I did a quick search and didn't find any coupons right now but around the holidays you can normally find some. Last year I picked up a couple of Seiko Kinetics that retail for $700 for $125 each. Not quite sure what struck a nerve, but I don't see that what I wrote was much different than what was written by others before. Boy, did he go crazy with that reply! Maybe he was just kidding around? (I'll trust that he was.) |
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Posted: 10/1/2002 10:50:34 PM EDT
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Hey SA, I know an online auction site that you can buy a nice, used, fake Rolex from an unauthorized dealer at 50% over cost. [:D]
Quoted: Not quite sure what struck a nerve, but I don't see that what I wrote was much different than what was written by others before. I think that's what his point is. |
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Posted: 10/1/2002 10:56:39 PM EDT
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"Wholesale" on a professional model Rollie is about half of retail. You will not find a retailer that will sell anywhere close to wholesale. 15% off of retail is an extremely good discount for a Sub (let alone any of the other Pro models). Many models, especially the SS Daytona are being sold by Rolex authorized dealers for more than retail!!! And they get it! I've recently heard of a dealer in Dallas (isn't that down the street from you?) that sold a SS Daytona for $11K the day it arrived in the shop. That's a pretty big premium to be paid!
Watch the TZ classifieds for the best deals, but don't expect anything from a dealer. If you really need a warrentee, you'll have to pay the big money. It is said that the only real way to save a nickle is to buy in SE Asia, but you're still only going to save about 20% over the rest of the world. Hardly worth the plane ticket. And, BTW, Rolex USA will absolutely crap on anyone importing Rolex branded merchandise. They are the only ones allowed, and Customs enforces this every time they see it. I bought a TT GMT-Master II off of Timezone on Monday. I should have it in hand on Thursday, so I'll report back. It's used, but I saved quite a bit of money over new. |
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Posted: 10/1/2002 11:07:14 PM EDT
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Quoted: SA, try this board for info on prices worldwide... [url]timezone.com/webbbs/cgibin433/forum_rolex.cgi?[/url] ...ask around the guys there. Hope it helps. Arock My watch collector buddy swears by this site. Kind of a boring site though, the only thing those guy talk about is watches. |
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Posted: 10/1/2002 11:37:03 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: SA, try this board for info on prices worldwide... [url]timezone.com/webbbs/cgibin433/forum_rolex.cgi?[/url] ...ask around the guys there. Hope it helps. Arock My watch collector buddy swears by this site. Kind of a boring site though, the only thing those guy talk about is watches. I'll swear by that site too. Sometimes it's funny when you post a gun/watch pic there and some people get their panties in a bunch. Next time I'll have to put a pic disclaimer. |
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Posted: 10/2/2002 4:27:46 AM EDT
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This guy Freddie Browns Jewelery in Baltimore is very cheap and my inlaws have bought a ton of stuff from him.
He ships to your door. E-mail me direct and i will get in touch with my inlaws for his phone number. They got me a Rolex for a wedding present. Not too sure if it was a fair trade yet [:)] Eric the ammoman |
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Posted: 10/2/2002 5:34:28 AM EDT
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Quoted: I bought a nice Rolex GMT for 40 dollars last year in Kuwait. It is the nicest 40 dollar Rolex I have ever seen,,truly a high quality piece,,,I showed it to a watch collector and he was ready to buy it for his collection of fakes. He said it was the nicest fake he had ever seen. Including plane ticket it was still just under a thousand dollars. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm are you thinking yet,,,hahahahaha I arrived back from a 5 month jaunt to Kuwait in Dec. of '99. All of my friends got watches that Christmas - Rolex, Gucci, Guess, you name it. These weren't fakes, they were real. Sure, they were maybe 30 - 40 bucks each - but Aibeeb insisted they were real. He only gave me such a deal because I was his "special friend" and thus I got the vaunted "special price." [:)] |
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Posted: 10/2/2002 8:22:59 AM EDT
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There used to be an ad in Shotgun News from a guy just outside of Columbus, OH. Dublin sounds right. I got a new band from him at about 30 % off a no. of years ago. Stopped by his place when I was in area visiting friends.
He had a couple of friends who were dealers, so they sold to him which upped their numbers with Rolex,et al, and then he sold at discount. Can't remember name but guy was honest. Couple of my friends hare got watches from him. Whenever I can grab a NEWS I'll see if ad's still there. |
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Posted: 10/2/2002 8:34:58 AM EDT
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SteyrAUG
Being in the jewelry business I'm afraid you'll be hard pressed to find a Wholesaler willing to sell you a new in the box Rolex at a discount period. Rolex has one of the tightest distribution policies around and if they suspect one of their guys is discounting their products, they will simply yank the line right out from under them. I've seen it happen numerous times, for example, Michaelson Jewelers. They lost their line and it cost them tons of profit. IMHO you would be better of buying a used one. So what if their is no warranty, like you'll need one anyway. Typically places like Bernard watches and Wingates watches offer their own warranty for the watches they sell and would be glad to help you find what your looking for. I collect fine timepieces and can tell you that as soon as you buy a new watch, its kind of like a car, the value depreciates, although not substantially, it will drop to that "used price" the moment you put it on your wrist. Yes it will maintain value, but remember it is perceived value. I own many fine watches and very few of them were bought new. The value on a used watch is the same as a new one once you put it on your wrist. All these guys, with the exception of a few, have recommended good sights to find that special watch. Stay away from E-bay, just my .02Cts. Stick with the dealers that have been around awhile and good luck!! Feel free to contact me if needed, watches are one of my specialties. Gemologist[x] BLOAT |
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Posted: 10/2/2002 11:48:20 AM EDT
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Personally, I don't know why you want a Rolex. I have a Datejust (stainless/18K gold) and it keeps awful time. Loses about 4 minutes per month. It is pretty, though. My advice, get you a Junghans Mega radio-controlled watch if precise timekeeping is your thing. my 2cents.
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Posted: 10/2/2002 12:22:12 PM EDT
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Quoted: Personally, I don't know why you want a Rolex. I have a Datejust (stainless/18K gold) and it keeps awful time. Loses about 4 minutes per month. It is pretty, though. My advice, get you a Junghans Mega radio-controlled watch if precise timekeeping is your thing. my 2cents. Lawdog I have "heard" Presidents are actually the worst. All the Subs and GMTs I've seen seem to keep pretty good time. Interesting Rolex story. When my brother was in Sinai years back a guy left his SS Sub on the sink in a gas station bathroom. He realized it much later and they went back the next day and it was still there. Apparantly NOBODY steals for fear of losing a hand. But they will yell at you for leaving it out to be stolen. |
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Posted: 10/2/2002 6:47:01 PM EDT
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i bought the presidential edition rolex in mexico, 80 bucks, yup, he said it was real, gag gift for the church pastor, now he can look just like a televangelist
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Posted: 10/2/2002 7:33:32 PM EDT
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Steyr, I have owned Rolex watches since 1982. Personally, spending the amount of money you are contemplating I would buy it in person at a reputable jeweler, not online..but thats just me.
As far as owning them I have always enjoyed wearing them...many people assume I'm wearing a fake...ha ha ha.. The other thing I would point out is that there are periodic maintenance expenses associated with owning a fine mechanical watch. They need to be cleaned and regulated about every 10 years. Rolex says sooner but I let them go until they start loosing time or fail to self wind themselves fully. Then I spend the bucks to have a Rolex certified watchmaker do the maintenance....hope this helps...ECS |
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Posted: 10/2/2002 7:35:53 PM EDT
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SA, A person of your status should not be content with a comon rolex. You should have somthing that says " I wipe my ass with $100.00 bills you pesant" look around and see CONCORD, PATEK or PANERAI can offer you. |
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Posted: 10/2/2002 7:44:43 PM EDT
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Quoted: SA, A person of your status should not be content with a comon rolex. You should have somthing that says " I wipe my ass with $100.00 bills you pesant" look around and see CONCORD, PATEK or PANERAI can offer you. LOL. Clearly you have not seen my Dodge. |
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Posted: 10/2/2002 7:46:14 PM EDT
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Concord? Panerai? HA! HA! HA! Those watches are far too pedestrian for Aug.
BTW: if your Rolex isn't keeping good time, it's time to have it serviced. It can't run well if the movement gets gummed up just like you can't hit the 10 ring with a bunch of fouling in the barrel. |
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Posted: 10/2/2002 7:59:52 PM EDT
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Steyr,
I got an idea for you! The best prices I've seen on Rolex watches was in St. Thomas (plus the tax benefit). So you take the wife on a little vacation to the Carribean, drink some rum punches, get your Rolex, and everyone is happy! |
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Posted: 10/3/2002 9:33:51 AM EDT
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Steyr,
My wife bought me a ss w/ jubilee band new in 1986 for $900.00 from an authorized dealer. I hadn't done any maintenence on it until last year. Broken mainspring and good cleaning. Cost $500.00 and 1 year warranty from Rolex dealer. The best watch I've ever owned bar none! Plus, you can trade-up with an authorized dealer anytime and re-coup what you paid for it originally. Just make sure it's a real Rolex-you know what to look for: Sweep second hand Authentic bracelet Full check-out by an authorized dealer I also have a phoney that looks authentic except for the bracelet and the tick-tick second hand. A reputable dealer and Factory guarantee is what your looking for. Make sure you get both! Especially for the waterproofing guararantee. Good luck, but be careful! |
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Posted: 10/3/2002 10:14:41 AM EDT
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ditto....[url]http://www.bernardwatch.com[/url]
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Posted: 10/3/2002 11:33:04 AM EDT
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[url] www.orolus.com [/url] Ooops just checked no Rolex's.
Or just hop on a flight to the Bahamas. Much cheaper over there. |
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Posted: 10/3/2002 12:17:02 PM EDT
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Ah....fly-n-hitch,
Real Rolex's tic 5 times (I think...maybe 3) a second. The fakes tic every second or sweep (I've seen them both ways) |
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Posted: 10/3/2002 12:50:27 PM EDT
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Quoted: Ah....fly-n-hitch, Real Rolex's tic 5 times (I think...maybe 3) a second. The fakes tic every second or sweep (I've seen them both ways) Nope, the good fakes can spoof that too. |
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Posted: 10/3/2002 1:16:42 PM EDT
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I got a nice Sea-Dweller when my parents were sure I wasnt going to flunk out of med school. Its a step up from the Submariner. My mom did find a significant discount, but the sale was made behind closed doors. She got it for a few hundred over retail. Rolexes are different when you just heft one. You realize its not an ordinary watch. Vegas also has a lot of pawn shops full of Rolex watches.
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Posted: 10/3/2002 1:27:05 PM EDT
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Quoted: Ah....fly-n-hitch, Real Rolex's tic 5 times (I think...maybe 3) a second. The fakes tic every second or sweep (I've seen them both ways) Last time I looked into this the number I saw was 28,800 beats per hour, which is 8 beats per second...thats a pretty fast tick. |
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Posted: 10/3/2002 3:15:44 PM EDT
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Hey Steyer, why don't you go in with a copy of a dealer's invoice (kind of like Shotgun News) and ask them why you can't have it at that price?
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Posted: 10/3/2002 3:41:44 PM EDT
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Quoted: Ah....fly-n-hitch, Real Rolex's tic 5 times (I think...maybe 3) a second. The fakes tic every second or sweep (I've seen them both ways) Yeah, seen 'em both ways too. But Rolex won't work on ANYTHING that isn't Genuine Rolex. They won't even put a diamond bezel on a two-tone datejust. There's no comparison between a fake and an authentic Rolee. The weight alone is a dead giveaway. Besides, take'em both 4 feet underwater. You'll quickly figure out which one is the real Mc Coy and which is the imposter. |
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Posted: 10/3/2002 3:45:24 PM EDT
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Quoted: Steyr, I got an idea for you! The best prices I've seen on Rolex watches was in St. Thomas (plus the tax benefit). So you take the wife on a little vacation to the Carribean, drink some rum punches, get your Rolex, and everyone is happy! Before anyone tries this be aware Customs in ALL Caribbean Ports of Entry (including airports) have the sharpest eyes you can imagine for expensive watches on folks' arms. I made the stupid move of wearing a President on a Carib trip once and got a huge reception on return to Miami International. It really set off bells with the Customs folks. Had the signed Customs form showing prior ownership. They were NOT happy to see that. I'll bet they confiscate more watches than they'll admit. Most folks don't know to register watches, cameras, jewelry etc before you leave the country. Customs just scoops all that stuff up. |
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Posted: 10/4/2002 12:16:32 AM EDT
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Quoted: I got a nice Sea-Dweller when my parents were sure I wasnt going to flunk out of med school. Its a step up from the Submariner. My mom did find a significant discount, but the sale was made behind closed doors. She got it for a few hundred over retail. Rolexes are different when you just heft one. You realize its not an ordinary watch. Vegas also has a lot of pawn shops full of Rolex watches. Cool, what year is your Sea Dweller? |
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Posted: 10/4/2002 1:27:12 AM EDT
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Quoted: Hey Steyer, why don't you go in with a copy of a dealer's invoice (kind of like Shotgun News) and ask them why you can't have it at that price? [:D] |
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