I personally went through this living in Las Vegas. I moved in to a all white neighborhood, everything was cool, everybody was friends with everybody.
Then came the blacks, crimes, and vandalism  began, houses broken into, tagging, My wife and I moved. A year later just for the heck of it we drove through the old neighborhood, we couldnt believe that we had actually lived there at one time.  

I personally went through this living in Las Vegas. I moved in to a all white neighborhood, everything was cool, everybody was friends with everybody.
Then came the blacks, crimes, and vandalism  began, houses broken into, tagging, My wife and I moved. A year later just for the heck of it we drove through the old neighborhood, we couldnt believe that we had actually lived there at one time.  

I read the whole article. I detected cowardice, self-loathing, and condescending absolution of others.

Yankees are like that.

You completely misread my comment.
 

SO you lived in a white town,,, according to the .gov census bureau....Hispanic is classed as white...Guy I know is Mexican, the census was at his house and filling out the form. He asked where the Hispanic box to check was? The guy said, 'Hispanic is white'  He screamed o his wife...Honey ,,,,,we are white!!!!!

Agreed.

Reminds me of the Chris Rock joke... "There are malls white people go to, and malls white people used to go to"

Who cares....I'm an unrepentant bigot anyway.

I had a barracks roommate briefly that (iirc) was from Long Island.



He told me that everyone in New York hates Abraham Lincoln because "...he freed the blacks and he was a Jew bastard."



Dude reminded me of John Travolts in 'saturday night fever', fruity underwear and all.
 

Well, that's not important right now. . . because it was probably a . . . .
BITCHIN' CAMARO!
damn. . won't embed. . here's the link:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v3CzvQ9e_w
 

It isn't race, it is CULTURE.

Black, White, Hispanic doesn't matter.

Nobody that has any pride or self worth wants to live around people that embrace and exalt failure and idleness.

I am White, I don't want to live in a run-down trailer park. From what I have seen of them (maybe I am biased but I didn't grow up with any wealth to my name other than hard work), they aren't populated by people that seek to achieve anything and most subsist by taking from others in the form of a check or by just helping themselves to anything that isn't secured and double-locked down. I see the same useless people, pregnant teens with no father around, felons at 18, drug dealers that I see in the inner city; without a permanent tan.

The same culture to an even greater extent as a percent of the people living there exists in the inner cities of America. Full-on admiration of the biggest failure, most violent, best hustler/cheater that can get material goods by doing as little honest work/gainful productive living as possible and knock up as many random girls at the same time with ZERO responsibility for them. Large percentages are violent and look for victims among themselves or with "the suckers" (us) when an opportunity presents itself. People that seek to achieve, use proper grammar, reject Government handouts, crave knowledge or academic advancement are looked down upon, bullied, teased and berated as "oreo", "Uncle Tom" and other labels making them targets of derision. A proper society lauds achievement and character. A proper society shames losers and failure; a broken one does the opposite and normal people don't want to be a part of it and they really don't want their kids to be near it.

These perverse cultures of failure are like giant vortexes sucking human souls into mostly short, teen pregnant, violent, drug addled and non-productive lives filled with garbage that replaces the truly important and fulfilling things that life has to offer in America. Most of normal America avoids talking about these lost people and avoid being around them until they can't and they become the hapless victims of them (or they don't if they keep their wits sharp and use good situational judgment). For the ones that escape against the odds, like Dr. Benjamin Carson it must be frustrating when almost nobody where you came from pays any attention to you.

The writer of the article isn't a racist. He is just a liberal with pangs of guilt at the admissions he is making to himself. He should shut his pie-hole, buy a gun, learn to use it and carry it. If he keeps hanging around where he is, he will eventually need it.

QFT.  However, their corporate hoagies are consistent and not awful.  You're not taking a risk when you buy one.  Helps that many of them are open 24 hours and have no late night competition when you get the munchies.



ps  Fuck that racist wannabe tyrant Nutter and his minions at the Human Rights Commission.

Google their losing court battle against the late Joey Vento for having a sign that asked customers to order in English.

pps  Geno's steaks suck!



 

Then explain. We live in a country where institutional racism isn't just encouraged it is mandated by the govt. A country where the color of your skin really can prevent you from getting a job if it is the wrong color and get you a job if you are the right color. Where the govt. forces schools to take people with lower SAT scores and grades just because of the color of their skin. Where even jobs that peoples lives depend on go to less qualified people just because of the color of their skin.

I was taught in school that we were supposed to ignore race, instead race has become one of the most important qualifications for certain things. We have people lying about their race because they know being anything other than white helps you get ahead. I just don't see how govt. mandated racism is a benefit.

One theory I've heard is that while the people initially moving in may be perfectly nice, upstanding citizens, they have a bunch of cousins, nephews and friends from the hood who aren't so nice. They come to visit, and bring problems with them. The problems lead to the rest of the upstanding citizens lighting out for a less sketchy neighborhood.

I believe this is the truth. Liberalism has failed our civilization.



But they will keep at it. They'll keep failing. And they'll keep blaming each new failure on the wrong people.



Anarchy in 5... 4... 3...

This is quite true.  There are areas in NE Ohio where once affluent families have been mostly usurped by inbred, toothless, alcoholic, drug-addicted whites.  Most of the problem started years ago, when people began splitting their rather sizable houses into 6-family apartments, and renting to transients.  No one wanted to live around these people.  As such, must moved out.  Of course, these white-trash people are, themselves, slowly being usurped by blacks and Puerto Ricans.  In many cases, the "Little West Virginia" areas have become "Little Puerto Rico".

Really, I can't say that I blame them.  These things are like a cancer.  Sometimes you can overcome them, but things usually just wither away and die.  You eventually find that the odds are too high.  It is hard to go to war with people who have nothing to lose, when you have everything to lose.

^^^  THIS ^^^





 

He's alarmed because it shines light on the complete and utter failure of liberal policies in almost every area. None of the promises that have been made are even close to being met. It doesn't get much attention and normal people cannot comprehend the true level of decay that is occurring in cities and neighborhoods unless they travel through the worst areas. The article does a good job of unveiling everything that the government is trying to hide. It has little to do with race.

 

"In heavily concentrated areas (as opposed to white rural and suburban), those opportunities are right outside their door."





I was NOT referring to whites having opportunities right outside their doors, I was referring to blacks and the opportunities they have to get involved with the drug trade or other endeavors that they see as a way to become wealthy.  A little kid growing in some urban shithole is more likely to look up to the gansta with the gold and the cash than he is to look up to the guy walking to work at some fast food place.
 

Who is this "they"?
Better "social programs"? No the need NO programs so the takers can learn some SELF RELIANCE that isn't theft based.
Funded by whom? Bullshit. A kick in the ass or plane ticket out is what is needed.

Political correctness wasn't as much of a priority as retaining your property and family safety.

True. I understand that.

But why do we almost never see a good hardworking family (of any race) move into a run down neighborhood and then get followed by their cousins, nephews and friends.  Then eventually the neighborhood becomes a well maintained, nice place to live and raise children?

Areas sometimes turn around, but not because good people push out bad people.  When an area turns around, it typically involves government (or large developer) investment and massive renovation of the housing.  And frequently even that fails to turn an area around.

I think there's a good amount of frontier style gentrification going on in the cities.  Folks buy cheap in poor neighborhoods that were once affluent, and through sweat equity turn the properties around.  This action is then demonized as displacing the poor.
 

Liberals place blame and have two stock answers for the state of these cities:

1) White flight. If only whitey would have stayed and stuck it out everything would be still be fine. They've used this for decades. It wasn't until large numbers of blacks started fleeing the same crime that it became impossible to maintain the fiction that whites were the problem.

2) De-Industrialization. The factory jobs left because of cheap wages. Meanwhile Detroit still has about half of its factory jobs despite losing 2/3 of its population and maybe 80% of its small business. It's the last part that did it in economically because that's what built it in the first place. Oh, and the few that are left the owners won't live in the city.

They also forget the history of national black leaders coming to cities like Detroit and Gary, IN and telling us all that they (blacks) could run the city. If you didn't build the city in the first place -- or make up a significant part of the city's business leaders and entrepreneurs -- that just isn't likely to be done well and will likely result in sucking off the tit of government and having an entitlement mentality the size of the planet Saturn.

The only reason liberals want to talk about race is to make whitey feel guilty and pitch more giveaways and .gov programs. Nutter is in effect calling for censorship but he is a black democrat so his fellow rats (ACLU) will keep quiet.

Anyway, Philly is on the road to being Detroit.

It's only helping blacks to drop out at a higher rate when they do get in college. The only thing that can turn things around is a return to MORALITY and FAMILY VALUES. Everything else comes from that. Look at each ethnic groups average income and family structure and you will see the correlation. A black male's chances of going to prison is a small fraction of what it is currently if they have a married mother and father in their life.

I've seen them get off the bus and walk right up the street to their relatives new digs. They think they are still in Detroit and don't need to walk on the sidewalk. Doesn't happen very often but it is an eye opener.

My Irish ancestors came to New York City when businesses still posted signs that said "NO DOGS OR IRISH". Now, The Irish have a history that would give them the right to have a chip on their shoulder, and a lot of them did.

Their grandchildren were running the city. without the benefit of affirmative action. my NYPD father marched in uniform in saint paddy's day parades for thirty seven years.

yeah, they were white, you're thinking. but these people, poor as they were, were comfortable in their own skins.
and that may be the difference.

anyway, here's the subtext of the article, which I read:
-centuries of oppression means
-centuries of payback.

this needs to be changed. for our kids, and their kids. and people like this liberal author aren't going to make it happen.

Something in the water on Lawngisland.
Grew up there, escaped before I was assimilated into what can best be described as cast rejects for The Jersey Shore.

Metro ATL is a text book example of what decades of the entitlement mentality, mismanagement, cronyism and corruption will do to a city. Atlanta Public Schools recently underwent the largest cheating and corruption scandal in state history. The Governner just fired 4-5 of Dekalb Counties School board members at the urging of the State Dept. of Education, they are suing to keep their jobs.



I give zero fucks about anything to do with Metro ATL, some people see big city culture, I see crime and filth.

They are not worth saving, I used to try and go out of my way to be nice and helpful. In the end not worth it.

Time to face the music White man!

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20130319_Philadelphia_Magazine_editor_faces_critics_on_race_article.html

No hot linking please.

Interesting article. The reality is white liberals don't want to talk about the condition of black people in urban areas because it highlights the failures of their policies.

I went to college in the ghetto of North Philly. Where did you go to college?

Quintilian taught aimless personally.

When white-guilt liberal apologists try to expound their enlightened theories on racism, I simply ask them for the top 3 black neighborhoods they'd like to live in. Conversation = over.

Excellent point. The Irish were the underclass that the black activists refuse to budge from.

I'm half Irish... My ancestors came here after slavery (and before Hitler rose to power, on my Dad's German side) to find opportunity. On my mom's side, they wore more likely to have been slaves/indentured servants. None of them ever owned other people that we can tell.

Yet the activists want us all to pay them for some privilege that I contend I was not born with. Screw that.

I have seen 1 community in SW Virgina turned around like that, but its the only one I have seen.