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Posted: 9/13/2002 7:30:58 PM EDT
I think you guys that don't like what I have to say about Canadia should have to face up to this before you jump my ass agian. On top of what the commie scum bag Canadian Prime Minister said now we have a poll out of Canadia and it looks like 84% of them think America is all or partly to blame for 9/11. 84% is not a handful. I know this is not very PC but if you guys what jump my ass then you can learn to take it too.
Link Posted: 9/13/2002 7:50:31 PM EDT
Well they are Canadian, after all. What do you expect. I'll say this, though. Canadians WERE some of the fightin'est soldiers on Earth. They comported themselves like none other during WWI, and WWII. Unfortunately... ...now they're a bunch of socialists with a MAJOR INFERIORITY COMPLEX..
Link Posted: 9/13/2002 8:09:44 PM EDT
You know what... No, you dont. Chretien IS a commie loser. I sincerely doubt 84% of Canadians believe that America is at fault for 9/11. Some commie liberal asks a question like: "If you had an evil gun pointed to your head, would you say America is at fault for the events of 9/11?" Or else they must have polled Quebec. BP
Link Posted: 9/13/2002 8:09:49 PM EDT
Them have gone so far left I don't think they can even see the old Can. Everbody loves to point out what ever beef they have with America or some thing that America did but us all be damned if one of us says anything.
Link Posted: 9/13/2002 8:13:54 PM EDT
Originally Posted By captainpooby: You know what... No, you dont. Chretien IS a commie loser. I sincerely doubt 84% of Canadians believe that America is at fault for 9/11. Some commie liberal asks a question like: "If you had an evil gun pointed to your head, would you say America is at fault for the events of 9/11?" Or else they must have polled Quebec. BP
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Ya the poll was rigged,it's not like they act as if they think that too. If I can't go on what they say and I can't go on what they do then what the hell should I think and based on what?
Link Posted: 9/28/2002 11:36:24 AM EDT
uh guys i can speak for people i know. 84% is practially made up it's so silly. it's not that high really.
Link Posted: 9/28/2002 12:14:57 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/28/2002 12:21:22 PM EDT
CaptainPooby has it right. IIRC that poll was performed by the polling company usually used by the ruling Liberals. Stephen Harper, the leader of our opposition, was on US TV recently and blasted that obviously '1 time out of 20' poll.
Link Posted: 9/28/2002 1:09:25 PM EDT
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Let's get real, you can make polls come out any way you want by who you ask and how you answer the question. Yes their current prime minister is a commie dick, but we shouldn't right off our largest trade partner and one of our longest standing allies. After all, we had to ride out Clinton didn't we. Canada will come around, I'm sure of it. I used to live there and other then the taxes and horrible gun laws it's a very nice place.
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Link Posted: 9/28/2002 3:01:55 PM EDT
Originally Posted By smarty_pants: I think you guys that don't like what I have to say about Canadia should have to face up to this before you jump my ass agian.
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Look dick, I was in Canada on 911 and they were just as shocked are I was. Don't forget that their are Americans that feel the same way. I guarantee you the majority of "real" Canadians are on our side.
Link Posted: 9/28/2002 3:29:24 PM EDT
I don't think most people realize that Canadians have a complex about America. They think that they are not recognized enough as Americans. I personally think they would rather be a little more south than they are.
Link Posted: 9/28/2002 4:33:35 PM EDT
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Isnt the "Vandoo's" Royal 22nde regiment Quebec? Striker. Help me out here. None of the frenchies would volunteer in WWll, they were mostly conscripts. Losers. Chretiens son has is a convicted sex offender. I am glad I left. Trudeau, while also a commie, didnt take no shit from noone. He told someone to fuck off in the house of commons. He shot the finger to reporters, and he STOMPED the FLQ terrorist bastards. Gotta love that.Gotta hate him for what else he did. PETRO CAN Peirre Elliot Trudeaus Ripoff.And who can forgive Pearson for the Avroe Arrow? I cant believe how that went down.
Link Posted: 9/28/2002 5:36:04 PM EDT
I never seen any such pole, but thats besides the point. Is America partly responsible for 9/11? OFCOURSE. Unless you beleive that crap about being targetted for "Being the largest beacon of freedom" crap that Bush uses to sell his war on terror to the world. Osama said he would get the USA for supporting Israel and US middle east policy, and he did. He never spoke about freedom comming into the equation. He made his motives clear, and there is no need to read into it. I will agree however that Chretien is a commie loser.
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Link Posted: 9/28/2002 7:29:36 PM EDT
Here's the poll in question: [URL]http://www.ipsos-reid.com/media/dsp_displaypr_cdn.cfm?id_to_view=1611[/URL] The sponsor list should say it all... BTW their latest poll almost mentions that more Canadians approve of GW than Chairman Jean. :) [URL]http://www.ipsos-reid.com/media/dsp_displaypr_cdn.cfm?id_to_view=1634[/URL]
Link Posted: 9/29/2002 2:43:45 PM EDT
I'm sorry but I can't find a link to the poll,it was all over the news about two weeks ago and this is not the only topic on that poll so I thought most had seen it. the Brake down was some thing like 24% of all Can polled said America was totaly to blame and 60% said America partly to blame for a total of 84% Only 17% of Americas said we have any blame at all,they gave no brake down for the Americans polled. My hole point in this moral clarity,America has always help the lead here. We lead the way on 90% of the battels for libarty around the world. 90% of the world did not think twice about us going to Cosovo or any other hell hole like that but if we set out to fight for our selves every body has a fit. Canadians moral clarity and leadership that we have,they (and others) don't lead the world toward freedom and democracy,they help and do damn well but thats not the same thing. The Canadian Prime Minister and many of Canadia's laws and rules are lot well liked by alot of Canadians and I understand that but nobody can avoid that poll. To say it was rigged sounds desperate or ignorant, how in the world would anybody benefit from making Americans like ill of Canadians. The poll is true and moral equidilency is at the root. Canadia is among the far leftest nations of the world(Germany,France,ect)it's good that they are not true commmunists like China or 3rd world beggers but but they do not have the same values as Americans do. This is not America's business it's Canadia's but right now Canadia as a whole is taking out of both sides of it's mouth. Take the UK,I have no real love for the Brits but they are far more consistant in their support of America and it's that I think anybody has to support us but we have done more to contribute to this and the last century. Building the makets of the world up,leading the fight in WW2 and the cold war. America has never asked any nation to give as much as we do or to even give the same only to stand by us. America is the still the most free and richest in the world and there will always be malcontents but the worlds can never seem to remember who either fought for or with them to make them more like America in all the way that matter. So many can't see that we got to be this way by taking from others but by giving,America's promise brings all of the worlds best togther in one place and in that respect we are better but never once in America's history have we turned our backs on people that need and wanted us and in that respect we are the best. Any nation that would leave any part of the fight to keep our civilization by any % should be ashamed.
Link Posted: 9/29/2002 2:50:28 PM EDT
Originally Posted By smarty_pants: My hole point in this moral clarity,America has always help the lead here. We lead the way on 90% of the battels for libarty around the world.
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Please explain your [b]hole[/b] point and what is [b]libarty[/b]. Is that where you get free books?
Link Posted: 9/29/2002 3:05:20 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/29/2002 6:46:18 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Scarecrow: Is America partly responsible for 9/11? OFCOURSE. Unless you beleive that crap about being targetted for "Being the largest beacon of freedom" crap that Bush uses to sell his war on terror to the world.
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[b]Striker[/b]I guess I was worng see'n how Canadians really don't feel the way the poll would reflect. BTW:[url]http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/9/19/132229.shtml[/url] [url]http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20020909/wl_canada_nm/canada_iraq_poll_col_1[/url] I'll keep looking for the poll,first time I saw it was on Fox.
Link Posted: 9/29/2002 6:59:54 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/29/2002 8:17:19 PM EDT
Dear brothers from the land of the beaver. We know that a media driven 84% when filtered for any self fulfilling prophecy- then converted at current rates of exchange between our nations work out to be, that when push comes to shove- Canada will be 106% behind us- and most likely open our beachheads (remeber Sicily?) By the way- have I forgotten to mention Statehood for Ontario in my lifetime
Link Posted: 9/30/2002 10:20:28 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Striker: If a "poll" is the only evidence you have..don't waste your time. As already was stated numerous times..polls can be manipulated to suit the needs of the people who want to prove a point. As for our Prime Minister, you'll get no argument from me that he is an idiot. All I'm asking is to stop painting all Canadians with the same brush. I'm no more responsible for the actions of Chretien then you were for the actions of Clinton. I'm still waiting for you to explain why you have such a hate for Canada.
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I just gave you two links that have nothing to do with the poll,and as for Clinton he is the most hated traitor in our era most of you people love Chretien and mouth back the carp he says. I don't hate Canada I hate people that demagague in the face of fact. Canada's official position on Israel is supportive so way did you not get hit? It's because Canada's BS will help get us killed. You people have a cynical and dismissive attitude toward America and you sound like a teenager arguing for the car keys on Fri. night touting all the great thing Canada has done in one war or another as if that makes up for Canada's currant indifference. Wheb the time comes you will eat your words as Canada stands by as we go out and do the dirty work.
Link Posted: 9/30/2002 11:40:38 AM EDT
It seems like the problem here is an inability to distinguish government by elected representatives from a limited and representative elected government. In other words, our PM does as he pleases, and nobody stops him - even if two thirds of the electorate votes for somebody else. That's what our system has decayed into. The National Post has an article on our new one party state today: 'Democracy rule by the people? Not in Canada -- Canada's democracy has devolved from a nation whose government works for its citizens to one of single-party rule' [URL]http://www.canada.com/national/features/democracy/story.html?id=32131BEC-07AC-46AC-9C0C-5406001F36B7[/URL]
Link Posted: 9/30/2002 7:49:02 PM EDT
Originally Posted By smarty_pants:
Originally Posted By Striker: If a "poll" is the only evidence you have..don't waste your time. As already was stated numerous times..polls can be manipulated to suit the needs of the people who want to prove a point. As for our Prime Minister, you'll get no argument from me that he is an idiot. All I'm asking is to stop painting all Canadians with the same brush. I'm no more responsible for the actions of Chretien then you were for the actions of Clinton. I'm still waiting for you to explain why you have such a hate for Canada.
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I just gave you two links that have nothing to do with the poll,and as for Clinton he is the most hated traitor in our era most of you people love Chretien and mouth back the carp he says. I don't hate Canada I hate people that demagague in the face of fact. Canada's official position on Israel is supportive so way did you not get hit? It's because Canada's BS will help get us killed. You people have a cynical and dismissive attitude toward America and you sound like a teenager arguing for the car keys on Fri. night touting all the great thing Canada has done in one war or another as if that Canada's currant indifference. Wheb the time comes you will eat your words as Canada stands by as we go out and do the dirty work.
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Your mother said it is time to get off the old pewter tonight,and quite E-Mailing this BOG guy! [sleep] Bob
Link Posted: 9/30/2002 8:04:26 PM EDT
Man I am so glad I left. Striker, you can stay at my place if you want out. It always has been a benevolent dictatorship in Canada. I see the benevolence has gone. I shed a tear today for my former home. God Bless America, my new home. America has changed me into a different person. One who now understands what its like to have RIGHTS. Remember, the fighting men of Canada are some of the best. Always have been. They are failed by their leaders.
Link Posted: 9/30/2002 8:28:47 PM EDT
I like Canada. Great folks, great fishing, fantastic countryside. Gun boards where they talk about guns in general discussion instead of namecalling, slamming people, and tinfoil hattery. Gun store clerks that actually smile, help you, and understand what you want to buy. Girls in tight fluffy sweaters. I think it's time for another fishing trip to BC.
Link Posted: 9/30/2002 9:38:57 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Johninaustin: I like Canada. Great folks, great fishing, fantastic countryside. Gun boards where they talk about guns in general discussion instead of namecalling, slamming people, and tinfoil hattery. Gun store clerks that actually smile, help you, and understand what you want to buy. Girls in tight fluffy sweaters. I think it's time for another fishing trip to BC.
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Just have one more beer and everything will be fine,I'm sorry you had to see this and thing for five mins. In the real world everybody is not PC even if you want them to be........sorry.
Link Posted: 10/1/2002 6:38:57 PM EDT
and, and, and, and, and, WE MADE THE SKIDOO!!!!!
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