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Posted: 9/13/2002 4:44:18 PM EDT
Hasn't anyone posted something about this? Did any catch the live coverage on Fox News all morning? Can you say "Richard Jewell?" I realize that the police are eager to crack a terror case and all, but to rely on absolute hearsay from some dumb woman in a Shoney's in Georgia, well, all I can say is, this country is DOOMED! This is why I am against things like Operation TIPS--the general public does not have the brains to differentiate the tiny number of terrorists that may or may not exist in a population of over 300 million Americans! Most disturbing of all was the news coverage--even when they knew it was a false alarm, the newsies still acted like it was the real deal (so as the keep the sensation going). You really had to interpret the commentary to realize that the police had no evidence and had not found a single thing (until much later in the day). Even the cops had a hard time admitting that they were wrong. Every time it came to that the cops were all "we cannot comment on that right now." Talk about CYA! Also disturbing is the assumption that these men did something wrong--like knowingly creating a terror hoax. Honestly, if anyone is to blame here it is that busy body woman who was eavesdropping on the conversation of other people. All I can think about is the poor med students who had the bad luck of having all their posessions thrown out onto the road and some of their stuff detonated with explosives, all because a stupid dog "alerted" to their trunk! Also the cops were mad because the men had the audacity to not consent to a search of their vehicles. They knew their rights and exercised them, what is the problem with that? And what of the poor people in Chicago whom the police raided on the weakest of evidence (a license plate number or whatever)? It's crazy that this shit is happening in America. I hope those guys sue the police and the news media. I also hope we don't see a repeat of this kind of nonsense. It's no longer a free society when everyone is a suspect and free speech means nothing if you can't have a conversation in a restaurant without some bitch calling the cops on you.
Link Posted: 9/13/2002 4:48:55 PM EDT
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[Last Edit: 9/13/2002 4:57:01 PM EDT by raven]
I dont think anything was wrong with the waitress informing about three middle east men in their 20's discussing terrorist attacks. How was she supposed to know they weren't for real? I dont think the authorities were out of place in their reaction. I only wish there had been a TIPS program in place when that sick fuck Atta walked into the bank asking for a loan to buy a crop duster, and talked about attacking Washington DC and threatening to kill the loan officer if she didn't give him the loan. And those three dumbfuck Arabs in Flori-duh? I hope they get their asses thrown into Camp X-Ray indefinitely for their moronic joke. Or at least deported and barred from ever entering this country again.
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Link Posted: 9/13/2002 5:03:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/13/2002 5:07:53 PM EDT by LARRYG]
Originally Posted By trickshot: It's no longer a free society when everyone is a suspect and free speech means nothing if you can't have a conversation in a restaurant without some bitch calling the cops on you.
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Well, you can't yell "fire" in a crowded theater and expect not to get your hand slapped. That's what these fools did and they have gotten their hands slapped. Free speech is not absolute when it interferes with others. You really are a work of art. More DU anarchistic BS. Are you saying that you would not report someone saying things that sound like they are going to commit a terrorist bombing? If so, why not? Not more of your anarchistic DU crap, just why would you refuse to protect other people from a possible terrorist attack?
Also disturbing is the assumption that these men did something wrong--like knowingly creating a terror hoax. Honestly, if anyone is to blame here it is that busy body woman who was eavesdropping on the conversation of other people.
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They did knowingly create a terror hoax! WTF is wrong with you???????? That woman did the right thing. This is not like spying on your neighbor and squealing because they have guns or some other non-terrorist related items. These fools have admitted saying it just to jerk her chain and instead got theirs jerked.
Link Posted: 9/13/2002 5:13:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/13/2002 5:14:32 PM EDT by raven]
They didn't like the way they were being suspiciously looked at. You know, like how black people think they're being singled out for scrutiny when the salesperson asks "Can I help you?" (note to black people: they ask me the same question too). So, to sort of "Stick it to the man" these bright chaps decided to conspicuously discuss things like they were plotting a terrorist action. You know, to confirm the waitresses' worst fears. Ha ha ha. What a knee slapper. That'll teach the white honkies (whose countries we study in and emigrate to because our own suck so badly) to stereotype young Middle eastern men as terrorists. Brilliant job, guys.
Link Posted: 9/13/2002 5:14:26 PM EDT
These men should be charged with making terrorists threats, and yes this is a crime. They should be made to pay the states of GA and FL costs to search for them and tie up an interstate highway for a day. And after the jail time any of them not American citizens should be deported. That woman in GA did not do a damn thing wrong and neither did the authorities. “Poor med students” my ass!
Link Posted: 9/13/2002 5:19:53 PM EDT
For you Muslim sympathizers..if you can recall what happened the night before the 9/11 terrorist flew the planes into the WTC. They were in a bar running thier mouths, bragging about how they were going to bring America to it's knees. If this concerned citizen was in that bar and called the cops...we might have stopped 3,000 people from dying. Idiots. Use your head, not your socialist heart. [b][blue]NAKED[/blue][/b]
Link Posted: 9/13/2002 5:22:11 PM EDT
[b]Trickshot[/b], you're a piece of work, all right! The woman said they talked about going to Miami to bring something down..... When these cretins were found, where were they? Chattanooga? Myrtle Beach? Akron? Hell no! Headed East on I-75 to [u]Miami[/u]! That alone bespeaks volumes about the veracity of the woman's statement. How did she know they were going to Miami unless they said so during their conversation in the restaurant. Get a grip, Son! Eric The(GripTHIS!)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 9/13/2002 5:27:11 PM EDT
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trickshot, what everyone else said, but with better cussing. what the hell's the matter with you anyway?
Link Posted: 9/13/2002 5:27:11 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Max_Mike: These men should be charged with making terrorists threats, and yes this is a crime. They should be made to pay the states of GA and FL costs to search for them and tie up an interstate highway for a day. And after the jail time any of them not American citizens should be deported. That woman in GA did not do a damn thing wrong and neither did the authorities. “Poor med students” my ass!
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My thoughts, exactly.
Link Posted: 9/13/2002 5:49:09 PM EDT
Remember the idiot who pulled the anthrax joke when all of that was taking place? These guys should get the exact same treatment.
Link Posted: 9/13/2002 6:05:32 PM EDT
trickshot what planet did you fall off of, and why the Hell did you have to land here? ARH
Link Posted: 9/13/2002 6:07:35 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ARH: trickshot what planet did you fall off of, and why the Hell did you have to land here? ARH
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I ask myself that every time I see his cockeyed posts.
Link Posted: 9/13/2002 6:13:27 PM EDT
if you talk shit, sometimes you get bit.
Link Posted: 9/13/2002 6:13:59 PM EDT
everyone is assuming the woman is telling the truth. it could be she is lying just to get a little attention. emagine this: you see three middle eastern looking people sitting in a resturant and you want a little attention and some payback fro 9/11 so you cook up a story and call the cops.
Link Posted: 9/13/2002 6:16:15 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 308wood: everyone is assuming the woman is telling the truth. it could be she is lying just to get a little attention. emagine this: you see three middle eastern looking people sitting in a resturant and you want a little attention and some payback fro 9/11 so you cook up a story and call the cops.
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If that turns out to be the case, she should do time.
Link Posted: 9/13/2002 6:17:04 PM EDT
After I read dripshot's initial post, I was going to let loose on him, but I see that's already happened. So this is just a post count post.
Link Posted: 9/13/2002 6:22:28 PM EDT
so what piss on a bunch of stinking arabs that shouldnt be here to begin with. i deal with them in business{not by my choice} and ive hated the terrorist bastards for years, they are lying,payment dodging,arguing,decieving, bastards. they blame everything on jews. and on top of that they sure as hell dont believe in taking a bath. deport all the bastards and we will have alot of our problems solved.[moon]
Link Posted: 9/13/2002 6:30:45 PM EDT
Originally Posted By raven:
Originally Posted By 308wood: everyone is assuming the woman is telling the truth. it could be she is lying just to get a little attention. emagine this: you see three middle eastern looking people sitting in a resturant and you want a little attention and some payback fro 9/11 so you cook up a story and call the cops.
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If that turns out to be the case, she should do time.
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Well, if you guys would stay current, the idiots admitting say what she said they did just to jerk her chain. Look where they were pulled over. How the hell would she know that's were they were heading? Pay attention.
Link Posted: 9/13/2002 6:35:47 PM EDT
trickshot i just took time to read all of your post. i love the end where you say they should sue. you must be a lawyer. just go away. you smell like the arabs.[moon]
Link Posted: 9/13/2002 6:37:01 PM EDT
trickshot a.k.a. dipschitt....yeah, I said it. trollshot, trollschitt, trollshoot...re-name on the way. In, [b][blue]NAKED[/blue][/b]
Link Posted: 9/13/2002 6:37:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/13/2002 6:42:30 PM EDT by SeaDweller]
Why don't you pull the same shit so you could get ruffled up and sue then? Note to GB, can we get an "ignore" feature? There are quite a few sympathizers here.
Link Posted: 9/13/2002 6:38:27 PM EDT
Perhaps if we did a litle more "eavesdropping" in public places 9-11 wouldn't have happened. How much did we as Americans ignore because "it's none of our business"? Bradd
Link Posted: 9/13/2002 6:43:30 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Bradd D: Perhaps if we did a litle more "eavesdropping" in public places 9-11 wouldn't have happened. How much did we as Americans ignore because "it's none of our business"? Bradd
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But, he is one of the 'we deserved it' crowd and stopping them would have been wrong.
Link Posted: 9/13/2002 7:15:23 PM EDT
I think Trickshot has a point, and a lot of the other posters do too. Yes the govt. needs to follow up on "terrorist threats" like the one these guys are alleged to have made. But remember the govt. also leaked about Richard Jewell, basically accused of a bombing, and accused Dr. Lee, National Labs AZ, of all types of esponage. Jewell was never even charged. Dr. Lee was found guilty of violating security procedures, place on probation and fired. If Trickshot is trying to point out that there is an awful lot of "jumping to (unfounded)conclusions" lately, he has a point. Remember people are also claiming that .50 cal rifles need to be banned, because a terrorist could shoot down a jumbo jet with one. Gen. Joe Foss can't carry his MoH replica on board an airplane because it has a nail file in it. I'm sorry Gen. Foss shouldn't have to p[lay that game. I don't think guns should be on planes except for Air Marshalls or perhaps pilots as a rule. However I'd certainly let Gen. Foss or his designee pack heat ANYWHERE. Because that guy has earned it, and won't let stupid s**t happen near him, I'm SURE. We need to be careful that the security hysteria doesn't erode freedoms. We also need to be sure that we are vigilant, as individuals and a nation in looking for people that want to make their point by killing others, thus deprving them of ALL their freedoms. BE CAREFUL, BE SKEPTICAL, BE AWARE, BE READY. to protect you freedoms, and your security. rant off........
Link Posted: 9/13/2002 7:48:55 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/13/2002 7:53:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/13/2002 8:55:41 PM EDT by Cincinnatus]
Trickshot, You come up here and try saying that to some of the men who've lost friends and family, myself included. I dare you. {edited: because it's against board rules to threaten to skin someone alive}
Link Posted: 9/13/2002 7:54:35 PM EDT
Originally Posted By OLY-M4gery: I think Trickshot has a point
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He sure does. It's directly on top of his head. Under the dunce cap.
Link Posted: 9/13/2002 7:56:42 PM EDT
if this isnt "your country" slicksnot,then denounce your citizenship,and try the republic of iraq, china, n korea,or your choice of free nations. just leave ours!! traitor.
Link Posted: 9/13/2002 8:07:57 PM EDT
trickshot is a trick hoe, take a poll to ban his ass. he is a troll hoe. he hasnt even responded to this post. professional shit disturber. get rid of him.
Link Posted: 9/13/2002 8:14:44 PM EDT
Originally Posted By raptor660r: trickshot is a trick hoe, take a poll to ban his ass. he is a troll hoe. he hasnt even responded to this post. professional shit disturber. get rid of him.
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Either that or we need an "ignore" feature.
Link Posted: 9/13/2002 8:36:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/13/2002 8:38:43 PM EDT by palmer]
So these three morons "joked" about 9/11 and state they were going to conduct terrorist activity in Miami, so that other people could hear. Now the family is crying racism, are they f-in kidding? Take your whole f-in . headed, joking family outa here.
Link Posted: 9/13/2002 9:17:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/13/2002 9:28:25 PM EDT by HKgnnr]
Anyone missing the obvious? American middle eastern decent MEDICAL STUDENTS - who may someday be caring for you or your family in the hospital making comments like they did to 'irk' the woman in a resturaunt. Yeah, that sounds 'professional' I stand by my original statement - THEY SHOULD GET THEIR TEETH KICKED IN. These are not American students, these are rag headed camel jockies - but thats okay, they'll return to their AMERICAN SCHOOL, paid for with AMERICAN FUNDS. Sure, they're the victims now.
Link Posted: 9/14/2002 3:16:00 AM EDT
And just to increase the ante, these idiot kids ran a toll booth w/o paying, further reinforcing the image of people with something to hide. If nothing else, they should be charged with the total cost of the police expense for their little "joke", and jailed until they or their families pay up. By the way, these "medical students" were not good enough to get into American Med schools. They were students at Caribbean butcher factory schools.
Link Posted: 9/14/2002 6:45:38 AM EDT
Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Originally Posted By raven:
Originally Posted By 308wood: everyone is assuming the woman is telling the truth. it could be she is lying just to get a little attention. emagine this: you see three middle eastern looking people sitting in a resturant and you want a little attention and some payback fro 9/11 so you cook up a story and call the cops.
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If that turns out to be the case, she should do time.
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Well, if you guys would stay current, the idiots admitting say what she said they did just to jerk her chain. Look where they were pulled over. How the hell would she know that's were they were heading? Pay attention.
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I haven'y heard that. I saw an interview with one of them at a rest stop after their release, and he was denying they said anything like that. Got any links??
Link Posted: 9/14/2002 6:50:47 AM EDT
This is going to ruffle a few feathers but... While the three may have expressed savagely bad taste, the whole episode is FUCKING FUNNY. The whole paranoid mindset that's become prevalent in my America is what's gonna take your freedom and your guns. Don't feed the bears. Keep your head above the bullshit.
Link Posted: 9/14/2002 6:59:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/14/2002 7:11:24 AM EDT by OLY-M4gery]
[url]http://www.channel3000.com/news/1667835/detail.html[/url] "....it could happen to anyone." Let's see. 1) If I am driving a car with a stolen plate. 2) Blow off a toll booth. 3) A second car that I am traveling with also blows off th toll booth. 4) After being stopped, I decide to be "un-cooperative" with the police.[red]*[/red] 5) Explosive detection K-9 "hits" on my car. Yeah, since I don't plan on doing 1, 2, or 3 I guess I won't even get to 4 or 5. Why is it these guys can afford fairly new cars, travel with 3 people in 2 cars. But somehow can't manage to pay a toll?? I think A-Rock is right with his comment. [red]*[/red] In the accounts I've rad they say something like uncooperative and refused to consent to a search. Are they "ucooperative" because they refused to waive their 4th Amend. Rights? Or is there more to it. Generally for a consent search to be legal the "consentee" has to be free to leave when LE asks for consent. I don't think these guys were free to leave. (sorry for all the editing, typing bad, thoughts still forming......)
Link Posted: 9/14/2002 7:12:07 AM EDT
EIther way it was a Big mistake for Those boys to Lie.
Link Posted: 9/14/2002 7:19:15 AM EDT
Don't get caught up in the little stuff... [url]www.beetlebailey.com/images/flag.swf[/url]
Link Posted: 9/14/2002 7:42:12 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Arock: This is going to ruffle a few feathers but... While the three may have expressed savagely bad taste, the whole episode is FUCKING FUNNY. The whole paranoid mindset that's become prevalent in my America is what's gonna take your freedom and your guns. Don't feed the bears. Keep your head above the bullshit.
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Isn't it strange, though, that as 'paranoid' as the American mindset [u]may[/u] have become, further gun control is not even a blip on anyone's radar? That, IMHO, is what separates paranoia from good old-fashioned vigilance! I feel not one whit of loss of freedom from anything that has been done so far! Oh, I suppose that I [u]cannot[/u] continue my mindless filming of airport security areas on a daily basis, as was my custom prior to Sept 11th, but I've learned to accept that huge loss of liberty, quite well. No more box cutters on flights, so my hobby of cutting carpets, midflight, has been seriously curtailed by these Orwellian restrictions on my rights as an American Citizen in Good Standing! Eric The(Facetious)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 9/14/2002 9:06:40 AM EDT
Originally Posted By OLY-M4gery: I think Trickshot has a point, and a lot of the other posters do too. Yes the govt. needs to follow up on "terrorist threats" like the one these guys are alleged to have made. But remember the govt. also leaked about Richard Jewell, basically accused of a bombing, and accused Dr. Lee, National Labs AZ, of all types of esponage. Jewell was never even charged. Dr. Lee was found guilty of violating security procedures, place on probation and fired. If Trickshot is trying to point out that there is an awful lot of "jumping to (unfounded)conclusions" lately, he has a point. Remember people are also claiming that .50 cal rifles need to be banned, because a terrorist could shoot down a jumbo jet with one. Gen. Joe Foss can't carry his MoH replica on board an airplane because it has a nail file in it. I'm sorry Gen. Foss shouldn't have to p[lay that game. I don't think guns should be on planes except for Air Marshalls or perhaps pilots as a rule. However I'd certainly let Gen. Foss or his designee pack heat ANYWHERE. Because that guy has earned it, and won't let stupid s**t happen near him, I'm SURE. We need to be careful that the security hysteria doesn't erode freedoms. We also need to be sure that we are vigilant, as individuals and a nation in looking for people that want to make their point by killing others, thus deprving them of ALL their freedoms. BE CAREFUL, BE SKEPTICAL, BE AWARE, BE READY. to protect you freedoms, and your security. rant off........
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NO, trickshot never has a point except delusional, paranoid, America hating. None of the stuff you mention compares to this. If you heard this kind of stuff, would you not report it? Even if they were joking, they should be bitch slapped. It is not a joking matter.
Link Posted: 9/14/2002 9:11:09 AM EDT
Originally Posted By liberty86:
Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Originally Posted By raven:
Originally Posted By 308wood: everyone is assuming the woman is telling the truth. it could be she is lying just to get a little attention. emagine this: you see three middle eastern looking people sitting in a resturant and you want a little attention and some payback fro 9/11 so you cook up a story and call the cops.
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If that turns out to be the case, she should do time.
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Well, if you guys would stay current, the idiots admitting say what she said they did just to jerk her chain. Look where they were pulled over. How the hell would she know that's were they were heading? Pay attention.
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I haven'y heard that. I saw an interview with one of them at a rest stop after their release, and he was denying they said anything like that. Got any links??
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I heard it on the news during the day. I am trying to find a link. Of course, these assholes will deny they said it, wouldn't you.
Link Posted: 9/14/2002 9:13:49 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Arock: This is going to ruffle a few feathers but... While the three may have expressed savagely bad taste, the whole episode is FUCKING FUNNY. The whole paranoid mindset that's become prevalent in my America is what's gonna take your freedom and your guns. Don't feed the bears. Keep your head above the bullshit.
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Alright, I will ask you the same question that dick(notmycountry)shot has yet to answer. If you were somewhere and you overheard this same conversation, what would you do? I ask that of all who seem to think dickshot has a point.
Link Posted: 9/14/2002 9:50:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Originally Posted By liberty86:
Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Originally Posted By raven:
Originally Posted By 308wood: everyone is assuming the woman is telling the truth. it could be she is lying just to get a little attention. emagine this: you see three middle eastern looking people sitting in a resturant and you want a little attention and some payback fro 9/11 so you cook up a story and call the cops.
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If that turns out to be the case, she should do time.
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Well, if you guys would stay current, the idiots admitting say what she said they did just to jerk her chain. Look where they were pulled over. How the hell would she know that's were they were heading? Pay attention.
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I haven'y heard that. I saw an interview with one of them at a rest stop after their release, and he was denying they said anything like that. Got any links??
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I heard it on the news during the day. I am trying to find a link. Of course, these assholes will deny they said it, wouldn't you.
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Yes, especially if I never said it. I can't help but have the feeling we haven't heard the last about this woman. Do you suppose it's POSSIBLE, (as in "reasonable doubt"), she's lying?? Or do we just accept her version 'cause she's a whitebread American, and they're just "ragheads".....
Link Posted: 9/14/2002 10:03:36 AM EDT
Originally Posted By liberty86: ...Or do we just accept her version 'cause she's a whitebread American, and they're just "ragheads".....
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Sounds reasonable [:)]
Link Posted: 9/14/2002 10:27:24 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/14/2002 10:28:24 AM EDT
We can continue with the "boys said" vs."she said" dilemma and get no where.The fact of the matter is that both groups of boys STOLE from Florida by ignoring the toll.For however many cents they screwed Florida out of by driving their fancy Import vehicles through the tolls without paying, they BOTTOMLINED themselves.They are Thieves with a sick sense of humor that should never be allowed to practice medicine.Muslim,Black,White,Yellow etc.they proved what they are all about now should face the consequences.Fortunately none of the little Bastards were hurt.Can you imagine how their relatives would be seeing $$$$if that were the case.Maybe the whole situation was staged in anticipation of a monetary settlement?????After all....they already set the stage for it being O.K. to steal!
Link Posted: 9/14/2002 10:56:32 AM EDT
Trickshot you are an idiot. What I want to know, is why the HELL do we allow them to enter this country and become "poor medical students, or pilots, or cab drivers or whatever? What will it take before this country wises up?
Link Posted: 9/14/2002 11:01:51 AM EDT
The bigget deal is that they were driving a car with stolen plates. That alone is enough to stop, search the vehicle, and arrest the driver.
Link Posted: 9/14/2002 11:06:36 AM EDT
Far as I'm concerned, the investigation isn't over. Just because they're in med school doesn't mean they aren't terrorists. Isnt the #2 guy in al qaida a doctor? Plus, these guys are good at manipulating the media. Look how well Sami Alarian is doing.
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