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Posted: 9/8/2002 5:12:33 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/8/2002 5:14:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/8/2002 5:15:45 PM EDT by ilikelegs]
Link Posted: 9/8/2002 5:15:00 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/8/2002 5:17:06 PM EDT
None of your damn business. [:D]
Link Posted: 9/8/2002 5:19:20 PM EDT
Originally Posted By avengeusa: this is the list of questions on the survey, whatta ya think guys... I think this is a bunch of crap, but I can't suggest any course of action, not in a public forum. Plus, references to anal abuse with blunt, burning objects would get edited out.
Link Posted: 9/8/2002 5:19:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/8/2002 6:15:58 PM EDT by USNJoe]
Q. list the members of your family, name age and level of education, as well as occupation. A. None of your fucking busissness Q. how many siblings does each parent have? A. None of your fucking busissness Q. how much time does your family spend at work each day. A. None of your fucking busissness Q. how far do they commute to school/work each day? A. None of your fucking busissness Q. do you actively practice religion? A. None of your fucking busissness Q. how many hours per week does each family member work? A. None of your fucking busissness Q. are they satisfied with their jobs? A. None of your fucking busissness Q. does your family buy, sell or produce foreign goods? A. None of your fucking busissness Q. what is each family members most prized possession?, why? A. None of your fucking busissness Q. what other possessions are they trying to aquire? A. None of your fucking busissness Q. what types of sacred objects are around the house? A. Guns, lots of guns... (HAHA, fooled you!) Q. what do you eat fro breakfast, lunch, dinner? A. None of your fucking busissness Q. do you rent or own your home? did you buy, or inherit your house? how many rooms are in your house? how many square feet? do you own any other property besides your primary dwelling? A. None of your fucking busissness Q. who in your family is litterate? A. None of your fucking busissness Q. do you have healthcare? what type? A. None of your fucking busissness Q. does your family feel safe? DO YOU LOCK YOUR DOORS AT NGHT? have you ever been robbed? A. Guns, lots of guns... Q. what do you do during your liesure time? do you take vacations?, when, and where? have you visited another country? A. None of your fucking busissness Q. do you have savings and/or investments? A. None of your fucking busissness Q. how many radio's, tv's, and vcr's do you own? A. None of your fucking busissness I is the one who cain't speel in my famly. I is also to durn lazee to use the speel checker...
Link Posted: 9/8/2002 5:20:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/8/2002 5:22:23 PM EDT by SWIRE]
What's the survey for? Who does it go back to? If it's a class project I could see where some of those questions have merit, like where do you go for vacation. But if it's a school wide survey that has no classroom use, I would write what SPECTRE said in big letters across the survey..."None of your damn business!"
Link Posted: 9/8/2002 5:21:34 PM EDT
I would have to have a meeting with the person responsible for this assignment and ask them WTF? No way is that information going to get relayed to some stranger. I might even persue some legal avenue if it were available. Fight the power!
Link Posted: 9/8/2002 5:21:48 PM EDT
Today? What do you mean "today"? Today is Sunday! What kind of school operates on Sundays?
Link Posted: 9/8/2002 5:32:02 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/8/2002 5:36:50 PM EDT
Ummmmmm, how do I say this tactfully? I guess just straight forward right?? USNJoe? uh... when you printed the question "Who in your family is literate?" um...well, it is spelled "Business" not "Busissness"
Link Posted: 9/8/2002 5:37:55 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/8/2002 5:39:14 PM EDT
WARNING!! [:(!] These surveys are multipurpose in nature, and are a means for school districts to implement various Liberal Social Programs in the public schools. These have been around for years. They are NOT anonymous ( respondents are identified by seating ) and the results will be used to : Identify "At Risk " children - Qualify the school for Federal funding- Compile a Database of "Social Problems" in your town- Last but not least, the results are used to determine the Educational "path" your child will follow throughout his or her entire time in the public education system. IE: "School to Work" Do a web search on "School to Work" - it will open your eyes- Here are some links-- [url]http://ici.umn.edu/schooltowork/[/url] [url]http://www.emsc.nysed.gov/workforce/stw/[/url] [url]http://www.marriottfoundation.org/Default.asp?checked=True&Marriott_BD={CCBC6B7B-4E56-4127-B5FC-432EF63213BF}[/url]
Link Posted: 9/8/2002 5:39:45 PM EDT
See?
Originally Posted By USNJoe: Q. who in your family is litterate? A. None of your fucking busissness
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Link Posted: 9/8/2002 5:41:58 PM EDT
Is this part of some specfic assignment for one class or is it a school/district/statewide thing? My first reaction was that I'd be in the Admin offices Monday AM asking looking to nail someone's hide to the wall for even considering sending something that invasive out.
Link Posted: 9/8/2002 5:46:26 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/8/2002 5:47:41 PM EDT
I kid you not, my solution to this "survey" would be to feed it through the paper shredder at least twice, put the resulting confetti in a ziploc baggie, hand it to the kid, and have him return it without further comment. I really would. CJ
Link Posted: 9/8/2002 6:11:37 PM EDT
Strange, very strange.
Link Posted: 9/8/2002 6:29:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/8/2002 6:36:44 PM EDT by NOVA5]
oh how i love these.. i always send back data... not accurate and sometimes insane..
Originally Posted By avengeusa: this is the list of questions on the survey, whatta ya think guys...
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here we goooooo...
list the members of your family, name age and level of education, as well as occupation.
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Momma, age : 13, education : Masters in Emotion Poppa, age : 58, Education : Masters in BS
how many siblings does each parent have?
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20
how much time does your family spend at work each day.
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8 hours
how far do they commute to school/work each day?
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666 miles
do you actively practice religion?
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oh that "god" thing? hes a drunk.
how many hours per week does each family member work?
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didnt you just ask this you blithering idiot? its simple math... 8 x 5... you get the picture dont you?
are they satisfied with their jobs?
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well they work there dont they?
does your family buy, sell or produce foreign goods?
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whats not foreign?
what is each family members most prized possession?, why?
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my bong... we get high.
what other possessions are they trying to aquire?
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drugs.. lots of them
what types of sacred objects are around the house?
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Dildo's, hand grenades...
what do you eat fro breakfast, lunch, dinner?
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Food... what do you eat?
do you rent or own your home?
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Stole it...
did you buy, or inherit your house?
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just told ya.... idiot.
how many rooms are in your house?
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800
how many square feet?
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10
do you own any other property besides your primary dwelling?
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my.... do you really wanna know?
who in your family is litterate?
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i think the better question is.... are you? you have asked some questions multipule times...
do you have healthcare? what type?
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yes.... Dr Giggles. (check the movie for answer..)
does your family feel safe?
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oh with the Abrams M1 battletank no one messes with us..
DO YOU LOCK YOUR DOORS AT NGHT?
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see above for why not.
have you ever been robbed?
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again.. above.
what do you do during your liesure time?
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smoke pot, cocain, ect...
do you take vacations?, when, and where?
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yep.. mars, jupiter.
have you visited another country?
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does another planet count?
do you have savings and/or investments?
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the tank is worth a good sum...
how many radio's, tv's, and vcr's do you own?
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enough to finance a small war in pakistan.
hmmmm, wtf
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same here.. wonder what they think of the response! [;)]
Link Posted: 9/8/2002 7:22:03 PM EDT
"does your family buy, sell or produce foreign goods?" Um, if your family makes it, wouldn't it be domestic?? And I'm in for the none of your damn business. No one needs to know half of that stuff.
Link Posted: 9/8/2002 7:32:16 PM EDT
Uh.....................I'm still trying to figure out why a school would put out a survey with these types of questions...
Link Posted: 9/8/2002 7:33:25 PM EDT
Those surveys are BS. Most are just like the ones I took home years ago.... They ask too many damn questions....
Link Posted: 9/8/2002 7:38:07 PM EDT
I'd have to make an appearance at the school and call the teacher before the principal and then tell them BOTH ..." none ya f'n business!!!'" and then go higher up the ladder with it.
Link Posted: 9/8/2002 8:05:12 PM EDT
Screw that man! Its time to homeschool your kids!
Link Posted: 9/8/2002 8:19:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/8/2002 8:22:21 PM EDT by RTA]
I like USNJoe's answer. The only thing I'd change is the "Have you ever been robbed question. Yes, every year I get robbed on or before the 15th of April. It's been happening for the last 30 years. The suspect is the same every year, THE ORGANIZED MAFIA!!!!!! I love Free Speech
Link Posted: 9/8/2002 8:32:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/8/2002 8:34:00 PM EDT by Lazyshooter]
My suggestion is a parent/teacher conference RIGHT NOW! As stated above, let the principal know also and contact parents of other kids in your childs class and get them to complain too. Most of those questions are WAY too personal. If the teacher or school want to know some of the general info., let them contact the census bureau for info on your area.
Link Posted: 9/8/2002 8:35:11 PM EDT
They forgot where is the safe located and what's the combination.
Link Posted: 9/8/2002 8:38:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/8/2002 9:13:02 PM EDT by ArmaLiter]
Originally Posted By avengeusa: this is the list of questions on the survey, whatta ya think guys... [blue]There is a difference between a survey and requesting personal questions that even your best friends don't need to know. So here is the answers I'd give.[/blue] list the members of your family, name age and level of education, as well as occupation. [blue]William Jefferson Clinton-draft dodger graduate-unemployed. Albert Gore- hooked on phonics- professional election ballot counter.[/blue] how many siblings does each parent have? [blue] My ma and pa are also brother 'n sister, so should they count each other?[/blue] how much time does your family spend at work each day. [blue]Well, hard to say. Daddy leaves for work in the morning, but sometimes doesn't get back home from his girlfriend's place until the next morning[/blue] how far do they commute to school/work each day? [blue]How ever far the short yellow bus takes them.[/blue] do you actively practice religion? [blue]Well, sometimes the high priest makes me sacrifice virgins. Other than that, no, not really.[/blue] how many hours per week does each family member work? [blue]Somewhere between 0 and 200 hrs.[/blue] are they satisfied with their jobs? [blue] Well sure. My sister gets paid big $$$ for giving guys B.Js. How easy is that?[/blue] does your family buy, sell or produce foreign goods? [blue] You mean like the ganja from Jamaica?[/blue] what is each family members most prized possession?, why? [blue]Their guns, because they have to deal with crazy people who write surveys like this one[/blue] what other possessions are they trying to aquire? [blue]More guns.[/blue] what types of sacred objects are around the house? [blue]That little tiki-idol my brother found at that construction site in Hawaii.[/blue] what do you eat fro breakfast, lunch, dinner? [blue]Leftovers[/blue] do you rent or own your home? [blue] I pay a mortgage. I won't actually "own" the home until I pay off the bank.[/blue] did you buy, or inherit your house? [blue]I inherited my house from the bank. For my gratitude to the bank for their "gift" I pay them $1800 a month as a thank you.[/blue] how many rooms are in your house? [blue]100. Actually 101, but we don't count the Lincoln Bedroom[/blue] how many square feet? [blue] I have 2 feet, but they aren't square.[/blue] do you own any other property besides your primary dwelling? [blue] Just our adult-book and toy store.[/blue] who in your family is litterate? [blue] Those who are fortunate enough to NOT be able to read these questions.[/blue] do you have healthcare? what type? [blue]Yes. The type you pay $10 for a 25 cent aspirin.[/blue] does your family feel safe? [blue]Hell yeah. Who wouldn't with a SAW at the bedside?[/blue] DO YOU LOCK YOUR DOORS AT NGHT? [blue] Just our bedroom doors. Masturbation is a private thing. Ya know? ;^) [/blue] have you ever been robbed? [blue]Yes, I think the actual term is called "taxes".[/blue] what do you do during your liesure time? [blue]Lock my bedroom door.[/blue] do you take vacations?, when, and where? [blue]Yes, Las Vegas, NV at the Bump-n-Grind Escort Service[/blue] have you visited another country? [blue]Yes, I've been to Miami.[/blue] do you have savings and/or investments? [blue]I save aluminum beer cans. A pretty good investment at 25 cents a pound.[/blue] how many radio's, tv's, and vcr's do you own? [blue]One 8-track/phonograph combo from Radio Shack.[/blue]
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[b]ArmaLiter[/b]
Link Posted: 9/8/2002 8:58:42 PM EDT
Some of those question are illegal to ask as an employer, why can they! is there legal recourse? Surprised they don't ask penis or breast size, important liberal school curriculum info
Link Posted: 9/8/2002 9:02:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/8/2002 10:04:26 PM EDT by ProfGAB101]
If you actually have a [i]need to know...[/i] Please resend this document with a list of all individuals who [i]may[/i] have access to it including there full legal name, address, phone number(s)and SSN# and an explicit reason for each person as to why they should be given access to this info: This should of course be listed on a properly filed subpoena and served by a sworn officer of the court. Anything less, and I assume you must be joking. RE: [b]USNJoe[/b] & others - never admit to a school official that you own & use guns, as you said "A. None of your fucking busissness" - but if you taunt them with it, they may use it against you. - They almost tried to take my friends son and place him in a foster home, just because his mother advocated the "Eddie Eagle" program at a PTA meeting, and afterwards she was grilled by the teacher. At some point she stated that there son has been to the range with them. - The teacher contacted "Child Protective Services" claiming the parents had placed the child "at risk". As for [i][u]sacrificing virgins[/u][/i] - that implies violent behavior - better to visit the Greek temple priestess for the annual fertility rights... - This is acceptable "Diversity"... (edit for spelling and fubar vb code)
Link Posted: 9/8/2002 9:34:47 PM EDT
1. Before you ask my child to complete this survey, please provide your home address, social security number, date and place of birth, credit card numbers, mother's maiden name, bank account number, list of your past 60 sexual partners and a complete inventory of your real and personal property. Also include an authorization for us to receive a copy of your credit report and arrest records if any, report to the lab for a blood sample (which we can have tested common venereal diseases), and make yourself available for a witnessed clean-catch urine specimen at random times, so we can see what the hell you've been stuffing in your pipe. 2. Before you ask my chld to complete this survey, please provide a certificate of insurance showing your coverage limits and naming our family as an additional insured, so that when the answers fall into the hands of your crack dealer, (whom you must be seeing regularly if you think we're going to give you this kind of information), we have some recourse after the various burglaries we can expect.
Link Posted: 9/8/2002 9:46:20 PM EDT
Seriously: A. ACLU? Yeah, right B. Conservative talk show host C. Conservative newspaper (if one exists there) D. Send an anonymous complaint letter and a copy of the survey to the school board. (Remember, your child may have to deal with this teacher for the rest of the term or even again later) E. Letter requesting re-assignment to another teacher. F. My experience has been that the first two or three weeks of classes are often spent with the teacher getting things organized, and the kids get a lot of "busy work". There's a reason for those "What I Did Last Summer" essays and similar projects. Little teacher thought is required to get them started. It looks like the survey was dreamed up quickly with little consideration of the reactions & objections the questions might provoke.
Link Posted: 9/8/2002 9:54:28 PM EDT
Is this a school survey or someone trying to case your house. How many people are in the house? How long are they gone for work? (don't forget drive time) Do you guys have good shit in your house or that cheap foreign crap? Do you have other houses we can rob too? DO YOU LOCK YOUR DOORS AT NGHT? When will you be going on vacation? What do you do during your liesure time? (In other words, do you have any boats, jet skies, guns, or cameras we can take?) How many radio's, tv's, and vcr's do you own? (How big of a truck do we need to bring?) I would be on the phone with the school tomorrow asking why they are looking for this information and threatening a class action lawsuit if any surveys turned in are not destroyed.
Link Posted: 9/8/2002 10:14:31 PM EDT
Wow break out the tin foil hats! Get real you paranoid idiots. These types of questionaires are for the benefit of us all so that the Office of Homeland Defense may adequately allocate resources to needed communities. If you refuse, you are doing nothing but helping the terrorists.
Link Posted: 9/8/2002 11:02:36 PM EDT
I fogot to suggest that there be some contact with the Child Protective Services people, alerting them that someone seems to be amassing data that could be used by pedophiles to "profile" these children and expose them to danger.
Link Posted: 9/8/2002 11:25:46 PM EDT
Had a similar survey when I was in junior high, way back in 64. The 'test' was given to the whole school, during the homeroom period. There had been a notice given sometime before the survey. I can't remember in what form the notice was. I do remember discussing it with my parents and classmates before the day of the survey. When the survey was passed out, I informed the teacher that I refused to participate. She said to just sit there and leave the form (several pages) on my desk, and read or do any schoolwork I had with me. Surprisingly, it took a lot effort on my part to refuse the survey, in front of the whole room. There were other kids who refused to take it, but if memory serves it was only a handful in a school of over a 1000.
Link Posted: 9/8/2002 11:37:57 PM EDT
"None of your [i]damn[/i] business." That pretty much covers it all.
Link Posted: 9/9/2002 2:40:42 AM EDT
It almost sounds like a marketing survey. And I wouldn't be surprised is they sold that information.
Link Posted: 9/9/2002 2:48:10 AM EDT
What school district sent the questionaire ?
Link Posted: 9/9/2002 5:33:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/9/2002 5:34:38 AM EDT by LWilde]
Originally Posted By Imbroglio: Wow break out the tin foil hats! Get real you paranoid idiots. These types of questionaires are for the benefit of us all so that the Office of Homeland Defense may adequately allocate resources to needed communities. If you refuse, you are doing nothing but helping the terrorists.
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Imbro... IF this is the case as you state, and IF you are not jerking us around, then the school/doctor's office (Yes, THEY asked my missus many of the same assinine questions!), or whatever, should so STATE in writing. Explain the NEED for this info and allow the parents to balance that need against our desire for privacy. Most of these questions, when asked in virtually ANY other context are ILLEGAL. For example, I am forbidden to ask a prospective empolyee any of the above. We don't even answer this crap when we purchase a firearm. If the kids bring this home from school, We will most likely refuse to answer it and we are going to instruct our kids to not answer ANY survey like this without first obtaining our permission. I can't see the need for this at all. I was SO pissed when the doctor asked Miz LWilde whether or not we had any guns in the house (It's for the children!)...and she, like so many other female sheeple answered in the affirmative without thinking that it was none of the damn doctor's business! HEAL THE KID DAMMIT...DON'T ASK ABOUT MY GUNS!!! I went off when she told me about this "survey". I explained that the feds are supposed to destroy the records of my gun purchases after a short time and she just admitted to a federal MD (Navy quack at Quantico MCB) that I had guns in the house! I was very careful NOT to cross the line and get her pissed at me though...but I made my point...in a gently sort of way. Now she knows: Be suspicious, maintain your right to privacy, ask "why?" and answer nothing without complete justification. Somebody is going to have to do some heavy convincing of me before I'll believe that these surveys are really for our own good. Sorry...tin hat screwed on tight! [soapbox]
Link Posted: 9/9/2002 6:13:42 AM EDT
Communists
Link Posted: 9/9/2002 6:14:41 AM EDT
There's no just or legal basis to utilize children as a conduit for any information gathering. In fact, the DARE program was slapped several years back for encouraging Hitler's Youth tactics of children ratting out adult family or friends. The agenda creators understand the peer pressure in school environments, and that parental apathy is very great. I would be all over the teacher, principal, and school board until this program was eliminated from the current school agenda. I would be at every school board meeting with my bullhorn.
Link Posted: 9/9/2002 6:46:12 AM EDT
You can have this information contained within this questionaire upon my reciept of the following: 1) A subpoena (sp?) legally served by a properly sworn officer of the court(s). (as previously mentioned) 2) We would also require the teachers, principal, and all others who may read or come into contact with this document to fill one out themselves, to sign a statement verifying the accuracy of the answers, and to have said document(s) notarized.
Link Posted: 9/9/2002 6:50:14 AM EDT
What I get from this survey is that someone on the school faculty is in Graduate school, and is trying to compile data for a Masters thesis or Doctoral dissertation. What ever the reason, the probable best way to handle it is with a respectful note from the parent indicating that it is the family policy not to give out personal information. Any angry approach leaves the child open for some kind of retaliation, whether grade reduction or worse. If you simply ignore the thing with no response, you leave the child open to having it assumed that he didn't bring the thing home Don't put the load on your kid. No, I wouldn't give them the info either, but I'd make sure that the school knew that it was my decision, and I'd do it in a respectful way.
Link Posted: 9/9/2002 7:01:54 AM EDT
Originally Posted By USNJoe: Q. list the members of your family, name age and level of education, as well as occupation. A. None of your fucking busissness I is the one who cain't speel in my famly. I is also to durn lazee to use the speel checker...
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Looks like my shipmate and I would be providing identical answers...except mine would utilize correct spelling! [;)] The GALL of these SOB's!
Link Posted: 9/9/2002 7:57:24 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ProfGAB101: They almost tried to take my friends son and place him in a foster home, just because his mother advocated the "Eddie Eagle" program at a PTA meeting, and afterwards she was grilled by the teacher. At some point she stated that there son has been to the range with them. - The teacher contacted "Child Protective Services" claiming the parents had placed the child "at risk".
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Can you say "lawsuit" boys and girls? I can!
Link Posted: 9/9/2002 4:05:43 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/9/2002 6:01:16 PM EDT
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I nominates NOVA5 and ArmALiter as THE funniest posts so far. I damn near fell out of my chair I was laughing so hard.[beer] Edited because i can't spell
Link Posted: 9/9/2002 6:46:47 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/11/2002 6:26:04 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Zaphod:
Originally Posted By ProfGAB101: They almost tried to take my friends son and place him in a foster home, just because his mother advocated the "Eddie Eagle" program at a PTA meeting, and afterwards she was grilled by the teacher. At some point she stated that there son has been to the range with them. - The teacher contacted "Child Protective Services" claiming the parents had placed the child "at risk".
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Can you say "lawsuit" boys and girls? I can!
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When CPS came to "Examine the childs home environment" they ask to see the weapons. My friend told them they are all currently in the safe and that he didn't want to take the time to dig them out. (a Browning ProSteel,packed with BLACK GUNS) They were adamant, but if I recall he ask there names, and was about to call his lawyer who had been following this situation and had prepared a few restraining orders, needing only the names... and the lawyers office was 2 blocks from the courthouse. It was a tense period, but the tide turned when the school principle weighed in (being a Closet NRA life member) and stated that the teacher who initiated the whole mess had misunderstood and over reacted.
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