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Posted: 8/14/2002 5:33:23 PM EDT
[url]http://www.rocktondare.com/crossword%20puzzle.htm[/url] current contents of that page:
Under Construction We received a few responses about questions presented in the McGruff crossword puzzle originally shown on this page and it has been removed pending review of the original format/source. Thanks Ofc. Camacho Rockton D.A.R.E. Program Copyright © 2002 Last modified: 08/14/02
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before [url]www.keepandbeararms.com[/url] posted a link to this the site contained a crossword puzzle with the following clue:
"9. Handguns are more likely to be used in suicide, homicide, or fatal accidents than to be used in self-______________."
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nice use of your tax dollars huh?
Link Posted: 8/14/2002 5:39:09 PM EDT
dare to keep kids under the yoke of socialism: [url]http://www.rocktondare.com/gun_safety.htm[/url]
Self, Home, and Family: Protecting Yourself Weapons In the Home When we talk about violence, we can't ignore weapons. Nine out of ten murders involve a weapon - eight of ten involve a firearm. Most robberies involve the use of a weapon, most frequently a handgun. One in seven teens has reported carrying a weapon - like a bat, club, gun, or knife - at some time to protect himself. Weapons can make violence more deadly and less personal. A gun in the home increases the likelihood of homicide three times and the likelihood of suicide five times. Reduce the risk Think long and hard about having weapons, especially firearms, in your home. Studies show that a firearm in the home is more than forty times as likely to hurt or kill a family member as to stop a crime. Look at other ways to protect yourself and your home. Invest in top-grade locks, jamming devices for doors and windows, a dog, or an alarm system. Start or join a Neighborhood Watch. Check with the police, the YMCA/YWCA, or the recreation department about a self-defense class. If you do choose to own firearms - handguns, rifles, or shotguns - make sure they are safely stored. That means unloaded, trigger-locked, and in a locked gun case or pistol box, with ammunition separately locked. Store keys out of reach of children, away from weapons and ammunition. Check frequently to make sure this storage remains secure. Obtain training from a certified instructor in firearms safety for everyone in the home. Make sure it's kept current. Teach your children what to do if they find a firearm or something that might be a weapon - Stop, Don't Touch, Get Away, and Tell a Trusted Adult.
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Link Posted: 8/14/2002 5:51:37 PM EDT
...A gun in the home increases the likelihood of homicide three times and the likelihood of suicide five times. ...Studies show that a firearm in the home is more than forty times as likely to hurt or kill a family member as to stop a crime. .... ...Teach your children what to do if they find a firearm or something that might be a weapon - Stop, Don't Touch, Get Away, and Tell a Trusted Adult.
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Hmmm... first they spout off anti-gun BS statistics, than they paraphrase Eddie Eagle's message and act like it's their own. The truth is, nobody was doing anything to "gun-proof" non gun-family type kids until the NRA stepped up with Eddie Eagle. Everything was always just: "Guns are bad, hmmmmmkay."
Link Posted: 8/14/2002 5:51:54 PM EDT
Dare to keep kids off drugs. O.K. This program has just lost any support that I would have given to it. Dare to Be Free.
Link Posted: 8/14/2002 8:32:45 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Teltech: Dare to keep kids off drugs. O.K. This program has just lost any support that I would have given to it. Dare to Be Free.
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Please note that the website in question is just of the D.A.R.E. program in Rockton, IL. Hopefully, the ant-gun politics is also local. The program itself is a good one - it introdices LEO to children in a positive setting and discourages drug use. Just because an anti has politicized the Rockton D.A.R.E. website is not necessarily a reason to not support the concept as a whole. Adam
Link Posted: 8/14/2002 8:41:24 PM EDT
if they said that when i was in dare way back when i would have gotten up and said "BULLSHIT!" right in the middle of the course.
Link Posted: 8/14/2002 8:53:08 PM EDT
My e-mail to them: I am not sure how many e-mails you have gotten on this – probably several by now, as it came to me by e-mail (the internet is quite the communications tool): Anyway, please take a good look at you “Gun Safety” portion of your D.A.R.E. website: http://www.rocktondare.com/gun_safety.htm . Several blatantly misleading or simply false statistics are quoted and you reference the notoriously anti-gun “Center to Prevent Handgun Violence” as a source. C’mon, ask how many of your own agency’s officers lock their pistols and ammo separately - with trigger locks - in locked cases? Even the use of the highly politicized “trigger lock” term shows a political agenda, as there are several ways to properly secure a firearm without a “trigger lock.” The only reason it is mentioned is because your source organization has been involved in pushing legislation requiring such locks. Also, the very good advice about teaching children what to do if they come across a gun was stolen and paraphrased from gun safety messages of the National Rifle Association (actually a part of the “Eddie Eagle program for children). Those guys have been on the forefront of providing training and safety guidance for years – the Center to Prevent Handgun Violence has focused their efforts on bans and meaningless, unenforceable, possibly dangerous (many people assume trigger locks are for LOADED weapons – a mistake that could and likely will cause a negligent discharge) legislation. Just as all of your officers have guns, so do many in your community. You owe it to them and their families to provide meaningful advice, not politicized hyperbole. Adam
Link Posted: 8/14/2002 9:27:57 PM EDT
I always thought D.A.R.E. stood for: Drugs Are Really Exciting.
Link Posted: 8/14/2002 9:32:46 PM EDT
Don't worry about this at all. Since DARE has been around drug use has skyrocketed, so maybe gun ownership will too!
Link Posted: 8/14/2002 9:34:36 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Adam_White: My e-mail to them: I am not sure how many e-mails you have gotten on this – probably several by now, as it came to me by e-mail (the internet is quite the communications tool): Anyway, please take a good look at you “Gun Safety” portion of your D.A.R.E. website: http://www.rocktondare.com/gun_safety.htm . Several blatantly misleading or simply false statistics are quoted and you reference the notoriously anti-gun “Center to Prevent Handgun Violence” as a source. C’mon, ask how many of your own agency’s officers lock their pistols and ammo separately - with trigger locks - in locked cases? Even the use of the highly politicized “trigger lock” term shows a political agenda, as there are several ways to properly secure a firearm without a “trigger lock.” The only reason it is mentioned is because your source organization has been involved in pushing legislation requiring such locks. Also, the very good advice about teaching children what to do if they come across a gun was stolen and paraphrased from gun safety messages of the National Rifle Association (actually a part of the “Eddie Eagle program for children). Those guys have been on the forefront of providing training and safety guidance for years – the Center to Prevent Handgun Violence has focused their efforts on bans and meaningless, unenforceable, possibly dangerous (many people assume trigger locks are for LOADED weapons – a mistake that could and likely will cause a negligent discharge) legislation. Just as all of your officers have guns, so do many in your community. You owe it to them and their families to provide meaningful advice, not politicized hyperbole. Adam
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Please be sure to give us an update if the responsible person(s) responds.
Link Posted: 8/14/2002 9:41:23 PM EDT
DARE to think rationally.
Link Posted: 8/15/2002 10:37:23 AM EDT
Last year, I read an article that reviewed some of the studies done on the effectiveness of the DARE program. Almost all found that the program did not lower drug use. Several prominent, local politicans responded by saying a FEW parents said they liked the program. I think that is a great reason to keep spending money on a program! How about using something that actually works.
Link Posted: 8/15/2002 11:07:41 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/15/2002 11:28:01 AM EDT
Yes, we need D.A.R.E. so parents won't have to burden themselves with teaching their children not to screw-up their lives with drugs. Whew! When my kids are older, I won't have to lift a finger - my .gov will handle everything!
Link Posted: 8/15/2002 12:23:09 PM EDT
Adam. I agree that it's good that kids should learn to respect the police and that they are being told that drugs are bad for them. But it's not just drugs any more. I was at the police department working on their phone system today, they have a huge banner, it's the biggest thing in the office, and it's for the dare program and now its drugs [b]and[/b] violence. And you know what that means. Anti-Gun. as in Violence Policy Center.
Link Posted: 8/15/2002 12:40:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/15/2002 12:42:39 PM EDT by FatMan]
Since D.A.R.E. has been shown to be an dismal failure in keeping kids off drugs, I guess they feel the need to branch out. I had a wonderful conversation with another parent about D.A.R.E. I told her about the studies showing that dare is ineffective, but she said, "Even if it helps one child keep off drugs, it's worth it." I told her, "Yeah, but what about the millions of others who were hurt, because parents wrongly assumed that D.A.R.E. would teach their kids what they (the parents) failed to do?" Silence. I had the "talk" with my kids about drugs: "You [i]will[/i] be offered drugs from your friends and schoolmates. People take drugs because it makes them feel good for a short time, because their friends are doing it and because they are curious. Long-term they are no good and may get you killed...especially if I hear about it. Enough said? Good!" Repeat the above until your kids truly understand that you love them and want them to be healthy and happy. Seems simple to me. edited fer spellin'
Link Posted: 8/15/2002 4:24:14 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Adam_White:
Originally Posted By Teltech: Dare to keep kids off drugs. O.K. This program has just lost any support that I would have given to it. Dare to Be Free.
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Please note that the website in question is just of the D.A.R.E. program in Rockton, IL. Hopefully, the ant-gun politics is also local. The program itself is a good one - it introdices LEO to children in a positive setting and discourages drug use. Just because an anti has politicized the Rockton D.A.R.E. website is not necessarily a reason to not support the concept as a whole. Adam
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DARE is just another way the war on drugs is pissing our money down a bottomless pit. Several studies have shown that D.A.R.E. has NO EFFECT on the rate of drug usage in kids' later lives. But all the soccer moms like to emblazon their SUVs with DARE bumper stickers so we all know what great parents they are and how they are so involved with their children's lives! The following is from: http://www.ndsn.org/FEB93/DARE.html Note that kids who did NOT go through the DARE program experimented with FEWER types of drugs. How did that happen? "A longitudinal study published in January 1990 by the Evaluation and Training Institute of Los Angeles, under contract to DARE America, assessed the program on a number of dimensions. Included were the use of five gateway substances after DARE: marijuana, beer, wine, hard liquor, and cigarettes. DARE students showed elevations on all five substances two years after the course; control-group subjects were elevated on only three" (Evaluation and Training Institute, Los Angeles, "DARE Evaluation Report for 1985-1989, Table 14").
Link Posted: 8/15/2002 4:28:57 PM EDT
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Dare was a good concept idea, but after many years it is a failure, as study, after study has shown, and as its been said , parents taking time with there children is far more effective.
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