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Posted: 8/6/2002 6:02:55 AM EDT
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"there's no good reason to have that many guns." I was watching COPS one time and this female officer pulled a guy over as he was driving through a drug neighborhood. She told him that he had no business driving in that area. I just about blew up when I heard her say that! |
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Posted: 8/6/2002 6:20:43 AM EDT
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COPS - man that show sometimes pisses me off. I understand that officers/deputies have to deal with serious scum very often, but sometimes...
Anyway, we should erase that phrase from our history and lawbooks, you know, the one that goes "...presumed innocent until proven guilty...". |
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Posted: 8/6/2002 6:34:38 AM EDT
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anyone seen Animal Precinct on anilmal Planet?
Talk about some civil rights violations. i watched this last night with my wife for the first time. I watched ARMED ASPCA officers in NYC walking into peoples property with no search warrants removing their pets for suspicion of abuse. Granted in most cases they were dead on but since when can that be done without a warrant? They arrested an 80yr old man for shooting squirls with a bb gun. They also urged the PD to press weapons charges against him for using a DEADLY weapon in a residential neighborhood. There was another situation where a dog had a large cancerous tumor hanging from it's stomach. The dog had been to a vet and the owner was told it would not survive. They took the dog while the owner was on vacation. Operated on it and gave the owner the bill. The dog was terminal! it should have been put down if anything. You guys know me. I am a hard core dog lover and take in strays all the time. But i don't beleive there is EVER a reason for an ARMED dog catcher to put their life or mine on the line for an animal. If the animal is abused then get a warrant and do it properly. This kind of abuse by government is getting WAY out of hand! Sorry for the rant but i got more pissed off the more i watched it. mike |
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Posted: 8/6/2002 6:55:57 AM EDT
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I was just about to start a thread on the animal planet thugs.
How about them throwing a fit over the rodeo that was in NY, or when they were telling the horse driven cabs to get them off the streets beacuse of the temp and right behind them were horse mounted NYPD -wth? |
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Posted: 8/6/2002 7:23:43 AM EDT
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I watched ARMED ASPCA officers in NYC walking into peoples property with no search warrants removing their pets for suspicion of abuse. Granted in most cases they were dead on but since when can that be done without a warrant?
it's called exigent circumstances/emergency situations. on the lesser side of imediate action, it's like searching a car. an officer has to legally articulate why he/she escolated 'reasonable suspision'. if they can, then watch out! i believe you were referring to an episode where one animal was dead with one still alive in the garage, and they went in for it. good for them! as far as i'm concerned, those ghetto turds that can't take care of a trusty friend to the point of starvation & infestation shouldn't have rights. those animals you choose to keep depend on you to live. it'd be like letting a buddy down. surely they keep their stolen guns in better shape than their pets. |
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Posted: 8/6/2002 7:24:54 AM EDT
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They arrested an 80yr old man for shooting squirls with a bb gun. They also urged the PD to press weapons charges against him for using a DEADLY weapon in a residential neighborhood. But it was in NEW YORK CITY where, like Chicago and Washington DC anything that looks like a gun is banned. That's why those three cities are so very very safe. California is attempting to do this state wide. |
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Posted: 8/6/2002 7:34:15 AM EDT
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Quoted: it's called exigent circumstances/emergency situations. on the lesser side of imediate action, it's like searching a car. an officer has to legally articulate why he/she escolated 'reasonable suspision'. if they can, then watch out! i believe you were referring to an episode where one animal was dead with one still alive in the garage, and they went in for it. good for them! as far as i'm concerned, those ghetto turds that can't take care of a trusty friend to the point of starvation & infestation shouldn't have rights. those animals you choose to keep depend on you to live. it'd be like letting a buddy down. surely they keep their stolen guns in better shape than their pets. i agree in theory but if the animal is not in immediate danger it should be done properly and legally. From a legal standpoint the dog is property with no rights. I agree that these dirtbags SHOULD be arrested but that is another subject. From this angle what is the difference in an officer from homeland security coming into your home and saying "your abusing your TV" and walking out the door with it. Property is property. These same jerks that are abusing the animals are abusing there kids. Yet the kids stay in the house. Illegal search and seizure is illegle search and seizure. Whether it is a dog, a gun, or your TV set. |
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Posted: 8/6/2002 7:34:48 AM EDT
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Dogcatchers should NOT be LEOs. Period. Humane treatment of pets is essential, but this Sierra can be taken to extremes. In Evanston, IL (Urban area directly north of Shitcago) 4 years ago, a man was arrested for animal cruelty, and CONVICTED, for killing a rat with a broomstick. This was done because the rat had attacked and bitten his infant daughter. The rat had more rights than the kid, apparently. The parent appealed, but the conviction was upheld.
The last time I saw "Animal Precinct," I just about puked. They did a high-risk warrant service on a couple who had been evicted and locked out of their apartment because they left their pets behind. The fact that the locks had been changed was irrelevant. SHEESH! |
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Posted: 8/6/2002 7:44:07 AM EDT
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Quoted: THEN THEY TOOK THEM AGAIN!!! Citing an administrative mistake allowed the man to get HIS PROPERTY back. Toledo Police claimed they were a danger to his neighbors, and that "there's no good reason to have that many guns." [b]EVERYONE'S guns have already been banned, they're just taking their time rounding them up.[/b] Eventually you'll break one of their Draconian laws and the Feds will knock on your door and cart off your guns because you got in a bar fight 20yrs ago or because you called a mugger a "ni@@er" once or because you got a DUI 20yrs ago or because you signed your "standard" divorce papers or because you punched a police dog or because "there's no good reason to have that many guns." [b]Incremental gun confiscation is already underway. House-by-house, slowly but surely, one gun-owner at at time.[/b] |
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Posted: 8/6/2002 8:01:20 AM EDT
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Ah yes, Toledo,Ohio. Where the communist dixx licking axxhole mayor, Marty Finkbiener reigns supreme. He is probably even more antigun than Schemer, Feinswine, or Chappaquiddick Kennedy.
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Posted: 8/6/2002 8:10:55 AM EDT
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Maybe the gun that the animal control officers carry is for protection from dangerous animals. Homies pitt bull don't know your there to help him. He just knows you not supposed to be messing around with his chain.
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Posted: 8/6/2002 8:31:49 AM EDT
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By the way, it was Carty Finkbiener (Carlton S.), but he's no longer the mayor. Now it's some guy named Jack Ford. No better IMHO.
One doesn't need a firearm to protect oneself from dangerous pets. If you're there to "rescue" the animal, why carry a weapon that could kill it? How about something none lethal? Then again...what's the net difference if you pepper spray a dog in self defense, or if you do it out of spite? Hmmm....maybe it's your right as a human being to defend yourself. |
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Posted: 8/6/2002 8:37:39 AM EDT
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Macallan:
You're absolutely right about confiscation. It's only a matter of time. In Toledo we currently must get a Firearms Owner ID Card to legally own handguns. Soon it will encompass all guns. Then, we'll have to register them, then they will come take them away. I personally don't want this damn ID card. Takes forever to get it too. But, what if I have to use the weapon to defend myself at home and during the investigation they want to see a card that I didn't get? I'd be screwed, no? Time to move...again. |
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Posted: 8/6/2002 8:45:48 AM EDT
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Can the highway mainteneance department come into your house if your driveway is in need of repair?
My animals are my property, I will do with them what I will. |
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Posted: 8/6/2002 8:58:59 AM EDT
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Quoted: Can the highway mainteneance department come into your house if your driveway is in need of repair? |
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Posted: 8/6/2002 9:28:52 AM EDT
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Quoted: This kind of abuse by government is getting WAY out of hand! mike Those NYC ASPCA enforcement people are not employed by the government whatsoever. It's a private organization. So, it's not the government that's violating anyones rights when it comes to those morons. |
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Posted: 8/6/2002 9:33:45 AM EDT
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helio: Amen brother. If I want to feed live mice to a snake, then I shall.
If people can justify that, then why sould I be charged with cruelty if I ate them? I really dislike a double-standard. |
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Posted: 8/6/2002 9:35:48 AM EDT
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Molon Labe
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Posted: 8/6/2002 9:40:03 AM EDT
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Quoted: Those NYC ASPCA enforcement people are not employed by the government whatsoever. It's a private organization. So, it's not the government that's violating anyones rights when it comes to those morons. So... If they are a private group... And thus aren't LEO's.... And are armed... And come into your house.... It's okay to shoot them, right? |
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Posted: 8/6/2002 9:44:36 AM EDT
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Here's a current expose on the Humane Association farce right in my back yard.
[i]Dog-pound killings caught on tape Shootings were secretly photographed By Karen Gutierrez The Cincinnati Enquirer CAMPBELLSBURG, Ky. - The two men dressed in camouflage and smeared their faces with black paint. Then, for several weeks this summer, they crept up behind the Henry County dog pound, crouched in the weeds and trained their video camera on a shocking scene. One by one, stray dogs were shot in the head by the overseer of the pound. Many went limp immediately, but some did not. The overseer slung them into the front end of a backhoe, where they wiggled and twitched atop a pile of other freshly shot dogs. [/i] [url]http://enquirer.com/editions/2002/08/06/loc_dog-pound_killings.html[/url] Looks like they used those evil guns again to abuse animules. When, oh when, will the hipocracy stop?? Molon Labe |
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Posted: 8/6/2002 9:47:24 AM EDT
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What if I had a pet chicken, but then decided to eat it?
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Posted: 8/6/2002 9:55:48 AM EDT
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Quoted: So... If they are a private group... And thus aren't LEO's.... And are armed... And come into your house.... It's okay to shoot them, right? You do as you see fit to do, if you think your life is in danger. I've never seen these dorks just walk into someone's house without permission. I see them convincing people to please let them in to take a look around. But, if it makes you happy, take a shot.. I suppose it would be the same as any other shooting you might be involved in, get a good lawyer. |
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Posted: 8/6/2002 10:26:23 AM EDT
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Why don't the aspa people harras the gerble abusers?? Huh huh?
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Posted: 8/6/2002 11:05:02 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: This kind of abuse by government is getting WAY out of hand! mike Those NYC ASPCA enforcement people are not employed by the government whatsoever. It's a private organization. So, it's not the government that's violating anyones rights when it comes to those morons. Sounds like HomeInvaders to me. |
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Posted: 8/6/2002 11:06:23 AM EDT
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Quoted: What if I had a pet chicken, but then decided to eat it? ya live on a farm? tellem to prove the one you ate was the pet from the 50 others out in the hen houses. ;) |
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Posted: 8/6/2002 11:08:39 AM EDT
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If they took my dog and did surgery on it and didn't give it back but gave me the bill.. lol I'm not sure of what I might say if they were in front of my face.. or do..
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Posted: 8/6/2002 11:30:14 AM EDT
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Quoted: If they took my dog and did surgery on it and didn't give it back but gave me the bill.. lol I'm not sure of what I might say if they were in front of my face.. or do.. That is probably going to start happening in The PRK if they pass the bill that requires the change in the term "pet owner" to "guardian". It won't be long before pets will be on life support and require a court order to pull the plug. |
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Posted: 8/6/2002 2:19:32 PM EDT
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I guess the only good that can come out of it is that if an adult dog attacks you, you could charge the dog with assault instead of holding the owner liable....oh, wait!
Pet are people too [:)] Meat eating lib |
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Posted: 8/6/2002 2:29:30 PM EDT
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Quoted: They arrested an 80yr old man for shooting squirls with a bb gun. They also urged the PD to press weapons charges against him for using a DEADLY weapon in a residential neighborhood. But it was in NEW YORK CITY where, like Chicago and Washington DC anything that looks like a gun is banned. That's why those three cities are so very very safe. California is attempting to do this state wide. That's news to me, What, specifically, are you referring to? |
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