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Posted: 7/29/2002 10:30:51 AM EDT
Link Posted: 7/29/2002 10:38:27 AM EDT
Actually, I think that may eliminate some problems for us. They're still gonna have to sell oil, and they won't be able to squack about us supporting a corrupt Arabian govt.....
Link Posted: 7/29/2002 10:39:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/29/2002 10:42:19 AM EDT by mattsd]
What do you guys think of this ? Sounds like target number 4 for us to Nuke.
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maybe 1 if it happened like the atrical maybe we would finally be forced to do what we have needed to do all along. remember, as long as Saudi Arabia exists terrorism will be unstoppable
Link Posted: 7/29/2002 10:42:32 AM EDT
Link Posted: 7/29/2002 10:44:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/29/2002 10:45:43 AM EDT by ilikelegs]
Link Posted: 7/29/2002 10:44:49 AM EDT
The overthrow of the Saudi Royal Family would be the perfect excuse for the US and other allies to move in and clean house. Under the guise of stopping terrorism, we could re-establish firm control over the Arab oil-producing states and ensure the smooth flow of arab oil, while eliminating the flow of petro-dollars to terrorist organizations around the world.
Link Posted: 7/29/2002 10:47:02 AM EDT
Link Posted: 7/29/2002 10:49:14 AM EDT
I think that it would be fan-f*cking-tastic if Al Qaeda had a street address.
Link Posted: 7/29/2002 10:56:45 AM EDT
Link Posted: 7/29/2002 10:57:11 AM EDT
[b]IMAGINE THIS![/b] At sundown on December 6 2001, corresponding to 23 Ramadan, 1422 in the lunar calendar used by the Muslims, Sheikh Abdul Rahman al-Sudais, prayer leader of the Grand Mosque in Mecca, made his way to the pulpit in the vast mosque courtyard. It was no ordinary evening, but possibly the holiest in the holiest month of Islam, the so-called Lailat al-Qadr, or the Night of Power, on which, according to the Koran, God's revelation was sent down to the Prophet Mohammed. On that night, "better than a thousand months," it is believed that all wishes are granted. More than 50,000 people had gathered on the hot pavement of the mosque enclosure and in the streets outside to pass the evening in prayer. Millions of others were watching on a live television broadcast at home. As Sheikh Abdul Rahman, famous all over the Islamic world for the beauty of his voice, mounted the pulpit, a hand reached up and tugged at his robe. There was a commotion, and in the place of the Imam stood a tall man, unarmed and dressed in the white cloth of the pilgrim to Mecca, and recognisable from a million television screens: Osama bin Laden, flanked by his lieutenants. In the four minutes before the signal of the Saudi Broadcasting Service was cut, men and women watched an extraordinary scene unfold. "In the name of God the merciful..." Osama began, his Arabic all the more eloquent for having had no seminary training, but it was drowned in the cries of acclamation. The crowd surged forward to the pulpit and in a moment the courtyard was ringing with the pilgrim's shout, "Labaik, Labaik," - I'm with you! Meanwhile, armed young men appeared from the crowd and could be seen padlocking the gates, and taking up firing positions in the galleries. So began the insurrection that was to overturn the kingdom of Saudi Arabia, undermine several Arab states and provoke a conflagration that was to lead to war. That a single man, unarmed and dressed in two seamless pieces of white cotton, evaded the power of the United States and took over a 100-year kingdom that boasted an armed strength of 200,000 men, a large police force and pervasive intelligence network, and complete control of telecommunications, broadcasting and the press remains one of the most astonishing events of modern history. Osama's route back from Afghanistan, across 3,000 miles of mountain, desert and sea, has become legend. It is believed that he left his hideout in the Pakhtia district of southern Afghanistan some time in the first week of November 2001, passed out of the country by the lower Helmand river, and crossed the inhospitable Makran desert to the Arabian Sea coast. From there, a dhow took him across the Gulf to his ancestral home in Wadi Hadhramawt in Yemen. A witness in the mud town of Shibam told the London newspaper Asharq al-Awsat that he saw a group of women being handed down from four heavily-armed Toyota Land-Cruisers, and there is speculation that Osama left his wives and their children in safety before travelling by way of Marib and the Wadi Najran into Saudi Arabia. Once in Mecca, it may have been comparatively simple to hide out in the warren of caves and tunnels, some stretching back to the era before Islam, under the mosque courtyard until the the time was right.... Go see the remainder of this fictitious future event at:[url]www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,590276,00.html[/url] Eric The(Imaginative)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 7/29/2002 11:11:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/29/2002 12:09:02 PM EDT by ilikelegs]
Link Posted: 7/29/2002 11:15:04 AM EDT
Tchya, right. Osama met Ms. Daisy Cutter at Tora Bora. While it'd be really amazing if he could pull off a stunt like in that story, Bin Laden hasn't even been able to manage one of his little soliloquies he graced us with in October. He must be dead.
Link Posted: 7/29/2002 11:40:39 AM EDT
1. I worked in Saudi for a year and a half arming and training the SANG, their equivilent of Saddam's Republican Guard. 2. The SANG did have people sympathetic to Osama, but the majority were very loyal to the Royal family. They are all descendents of the orginal White Army which were the tribal warriors who rode with the founding King of Saud and overthrew the Ottoman empire in the early 1900s. 3. The SANG will stand by the Royal family. 4. The majority of Saudis DO NOT support Osama bin Laden. 5. I do believe however, that the scenarios you all speak of are possible. Our involvement with the House of Saud mirrors that we had with the Shah of Iran. We supported a regime for oil that was shaky in terms of its power. 6. Us going in there after its fall to finally take the region over is pure foolishness. If you really want to have all arabs fight you to the death and they will never quit, then invade a country like that. This type of foolishness is the pure thoughtless bluster of amatuers. 7. Cut off the money. Yep, we are investing alot of money into oil exploration right now for other sources. South America is booming, the only problem is its in the rainforest. If you hit oil in 2 out of 10 drilling sites, you are doing well. In SA right now, they are running 10 for 10, but are hindered by screwed up govts. 8. The Saudis are kept in the stone age. Let them get a glimpse of the real world and watch fundamentalism fall. Just like Iran, they will get their fill of it in due time if they choose it.
Link Posted: 7/29/2002 11:44:37 AM EDT
It would be great if it happened, but I'm afraid it probably won't. IF Al Qaeda came to power, that would give us a real live NATION for us to fight. The best would be if Al Qaeda assasinated Arafat, and became the new Palestinian Authority. Boom! That would solve EVERYONE'S problems.
Link Posted: 7/29/2002 11:48:19 AM EDT
Originally Posted By liberty86: Actually, I think that may eliminate some problems for us. They're still gonna have to sell oil, and they won't be able to squack about us supporting a corrupt Arabian govt.....
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But instead of the resulting funds going into bank accounts, this money would be directed towards NBC devices. They would spend billions to purchase nuclear bombs and their missle carriers. Then they would use them. If Saudi Arabia ever fell to fanaticals, it's war.
Link Posted: 7/29/2002 11:50:50 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ilikelegs:
Originally Posted By SJSAMPLE: The overthrow of the Saudi Royal Family would be the perfect excuse for the US and other allies to move in and clean house. Under the guise of stopping terrorism, we could re-establish firm control over the Arab oil-producing states and ensure the smooth flow of arab oil, while eliminating the flow of petro-dollars to terrorist organizations around the world.
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Yes, wouldn't it be great if Bush really had the balls to really do this though.
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.....and prove absolutly correct those who say we are an imperialistic empire building "a new world order".
Link Posted: 7/29/2002 3:45:55 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/30/2002 8:21:13 AM EDT
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