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Posted: 7/18/2002 10:00:09 PM EDT
Who else would be willing to commit criminal acts, but the criminals themselves? Perfect candidates for a TIPS SWAT team. [url=www.washingtontimes.com/national/20020717-366620.htm]Immigration bill offers felons a second chance[/url] Some legal immigrants to the United States who have been deported in the past six years for aggravated felonies will be allowed to apply for re-entry under a bill pending before the House Judiciary Committee today. Chairman F. James Sensenbrenner Jr., Wisconsin Republican, has struck a deal with the bill's sponsor, Rep. Barney Frank, Massachusetts Democrat, that would allow those former alien residents to apply to re-enter the United States under a new set of rules to be written by the Justice Department. The bill also would allow future felons to ask the Justice Department for a "cancellation of removal" order that would stop their deportation if their sentence is less than two years for violent felonies and less than four years for nonviolent felonies. The proposal would apply to those convicted of assault, arson and robbery who are sentenced to less than two years in prison, and those convicted of child pornography, alien smuggling and document fraud who are sentenced to less than four years. It maintains a ban on petitions for anyone convicted of terrorism-related offenses, as well as those found guilty of murder, rape or child sex abuse. "Creating a process to allow convicted and deported aggravated felons back into the country is unprecedented," said Rep. Lamar Smith, Texas Republican, who wrote a letter urging his colleagues on the committee to oppose the bill. "This committee should not make it easier for drug traffickers and drug smugglers to stay in our country." But Mr. Sensenbrenner's spokesman said the bill represented a good compromise between Mr. Frank's original bill and the existing law. "It keeps the beneficial reforms from the 1996 law while letting a select group of legal permanent residents request discretionary relief from an immigration judge," spokesman Jeff Lungren said. The committee has a bill-writing session scheduled for today, and the immigration proposal is on the agenda. Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee from Texas, the top Democrat on the panel's immigration and claims subcommittee, said the bill simply gives applicants a chance to make their case.
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 10:00:52 PM EDT
(continued) "It allows for an application — if they were bad actors in their country, you can be sure they won't be admitted," she said. The bill has residency requirements for how long a felon must have lived in the United States before being eligible to petition an immigration judge for permission to remain. It also allows anyone who was brought to the country under the age of 10 to make a petition, because, Mrs. Jackson-Lee said, those persons would otherwise be returned to a country with which they are unfamiliar. Under the law, green-card holders — legal permanent residents who haven't attained citizenship — who are convicted of aggravated felonies are subject to deportation once they serve out their sentence. They can apply for a "cancellation of removal," though. Before 1996, one had only to show that his sentence for an aggravated felony did not exceed five years and that a relative would suffer hardship if he was deported. A 1996 law tightened the rules, requiring that a petitioner's sentence not exceed one year and proof that a relative would suffer exceptional hardship. The INS deported 71,346 criminal aliens in fiscal year 2001, out of a total of 176,549 deportations, but did not have a breakdown of how many were green-card holders. Mrs. Jackson-Lee said lawmakers realized soon after its passage that the 1996 law went too far. "These individuals who were deported — their crimes were not offenses that were heinous or horrific," she said, while pointing out that the bill does not affect terrorism-related offenders. But immigration reform groups say that before 1996 there were so many applications for cancellation that it amounted to a rubber stamp, with most applications approved pro forma. "We expect those abuses to happen again," said Mr. Smith, who was chairman of the immigration subcommittee when the 1996 law was passed. He said Mr. Sensenbrenner's compromise is better than Mr. Frank's bill, but likened it to "saying a flat tire is better than no tire at all — neither one is worth much for the long haul." The immigration panel's current chairman, Rep. George W. Gekas, Pennsylvania Republican, said he was still studying the compromise but that he hasn't seen any reason to undo the 1996 law. "I think the act of 1996 is one on which we should pin our policies on all these matters," he said. "I'm not ready to puncture holes in it." The bill's opponents say there are few cases of true hardship and that special legislation can handle those cases.
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 10:06:25 PM EDT
I'm sure they've been reformed in their time away from us and will be on their best behaivior upon arriving back on our shores. How can we refuse such wonderful folks? It's in the best interest of the children.
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Link Posted: 7/19/2002 5:43:44 AM EDT
When the democratic party decided that their constituency was every criminal out there (now fighting to get the resident alien perps back in the U.S. [rolleyes]), this country made a giant leap into the twilight zone. We are so fucked.
Link Posted: 7/19/2002 6:54:27 AM EDT
Wasn't there some attack by aliens on some political leaders a while back in NY or somewhere back East, after which Hillary or Bill Clinton was fighting fot the release of the perps? I'm vaguely remembering it was Cubans or Puerto Ricans. Anyway, if the crime in question was some resident alien wacko making an attempt on some Congressmen's life, and they were able, say under some Demo administration, to successfully fight deportation would these wizards rethink this idea?
Link Posted: 7/19/2002 7:18:25 AM EDT
I've got to hand it to you, Imbroglio...who else but you could COMBINE paranoid ravings over immigration, JBTs and TIPS? You're a work of art. Impressionistic, to be sure, but still...
Link Posted: 7/19/2002 7:44:14 AM EDT
Link Posted: 7/19/2002 8:45:24 AM EDT
Paranoid ravings huh? Take your rose colored glasses off. Just what kind of people do you think are used as "confidential informants"? Criminals that "cut a deal" to work for the feds/law enforcement. Ever hear of Randy Weaver? Explain to me for what other use allowing felons back into the U.S. is going to serve. It is bad enough already that 25% of the prison population in the U.S./Mexico border states are illegals and you just want to welcome back more with open arms?
Link Posted: 7/19/2002 8:49:42 AM EDT
Holy Friggin Crap. I'm sure there are more than enough good people that want to come into our country, WE DON'T NEED TO LET THE FELONS BACK IN.
Link Posted: 7/19/2002 8:56:53 AM EDT
around 1910 they refused entry at ellis island to a great-uncle of mine because he didnt have $25. so now we're letting known felons in? i guess the logic is that criminals can always get some money on short notice...
Link Posted: 7/19/2002 9:13:06 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Imbroglio: Paranoid ravings huh? Take your rose colored glasses off. Just what kind of people do you think are used as "confidential informants"? Criminals that "cut a deal" to work for the feds/law enforcement. Ever hear of Randy Weaver?
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Okay, which is it now? Are the immigrants they give amnesty to going to be confidential informants or are they going to be JBTs? Sorry, you're getting your paranoid ravings mixed up...
Link Posted: 7/19/2002 9:16:09 AM EDT
If all these deportees were in the country for the last presidential election, we'd have Al Gore as our president... Letting these criminals back into our country is just another way to increase votes for the Democrats... Cocksuckers will do ANYTHING for a vote... Politicians aren't trying to give immigrants "another chance", they are trying to get themselves re-elected... Political #1 priority is to stay in power...
Link Posted: 7/19/2002 9:21:56 AM EDT
Don't we have enough felons here already without importing more? Why not import hot Swiss babes instead? Thats something we could use more of.
Link Posted: 7/19/2002 9:23:45 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Dragracer_Art: If all these deportees were in the country for the last presidential election, we'd have Al Gore as our president... Letting these criminals back into our country is just another way to increase votes for the Democrats... Cocksuckers will do ANYTHING for a vote... Politicians aren't trying to give immigrants "another chance", they are trying to get themselves re-elected... Political #1 priority is to stay in power...
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"Chairman F. James Sensenbrenner Jr., Wisconsin [b]Republican[/b], has struck a deal with the bill's sponsor..."
Link Posted: 7/19/2002 9:33:16 AM EDT
This is proposed by the homosexual Barney Franks! Since everything is relative, more immigrant criminals would tend to divert attention and national resources away from homosexual pedophiles and their agenda to corrupt USA from within. If you don't believe this is true you need to wake up and start living in the real world.
Link Posted: 7/19/2002 9:46:45 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Imbroglio:
Originally Posted By Dragracer_Art: If all these deportees were in the country for the last presidential election, we'd have Al Gore as our president... Letting these criminals back into our country is just another way to increase votes for the Democrats... Cocksuckers will do ANYTHING for a vote... Politicians aren't trying to give immigrants "another chance", they are trying to get themselves re-elected... Political #1 priority is to stay in power...
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"Chairman F. James Sensenbrenner Jr., Wisconsin [b]Republican[/b], has struck a deal with the bill's sponsor..."
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Democrats, Republicans, Republicrats... They are all the same to me... Crooked & self-serving... Another angle to consider is... A good way to further the anti-gun agenda would be to "create" more crime... Personally, I don't see any good in letting criminals back into the country...
Link Posted: 7/19/2002 9:56:18 AM EDT
And this ladies and gentleman is what you get when you elect a Democrat (Barney Frank) into office. Aren't you glad he's using his time on the Hill wisely?
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