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Link Posted: 4/15/2012 1:08:48 PM EDT
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Hillarys fault, she just cleaning up the SS before she runs for VP.
Link Posted: 4/15/2012 1:29:42 PM EDT
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Bush's fault.



Yeah, I saw it...


I never met a Colombian hooker who didn't shave it bald.

Link Posted: 4/15/2012 3:04:41 PM EDT
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They are gonna go from protecting the President to protecting a strip mall.



Dumbasses.





Future TSA employees.  


More like FAMS supervisors.



 
Link Posted: 4/15/2012 3:45:57 PM EDT
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MWD
Link Posted: 4/15/2012 4:05:52 PM EDT
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Maybe we need to start taking our own whores with the presidential entourage.

That would be very late-period Roman of them
Link Posted: 4/15/2012 4:08:26 PM EDT
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Ummmm....I thought it was hard to be a SS guy, and your shit had to be locked on with personality profiles and everything.

If anyone here works for SS HR and wants somone who won't fuck hookers with the rest of the group, give me a ring.
Link Posted: 4/15/2012 4:12:25 PM EDT
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I was assistant team leader for our squadron's deployment to Tocumen Airbase for the November 2005 SOA trip.





The logistical train alone was impressive: 6 F-15s for CAP from the 1st FW out of Langley, K-135 from Illinois Air Guard, C-17 from, somewhere, plus a spare for the vehicle entourage. AWACS out of Tinker IIRC. Marine One, which had hitched a ride on the C-17, plus its contingent of Marines, a State Department C-40 with SD staff and assorted spooks, AF 1 and backup, etc. Plus a 757 from United carrying the press pool.





The 820th guys from Moody AFB guarded AF1, we provided security for the F-15s, tankers, and airlifters. I was not terribly impressed by the 820th guys, who are usually very professional.
Much of SS advon consists of the security team, but also "retired" agents who secure the vehicles and do other mundane tasks leaving the ST guys to take care of business. Willing to bet it was one of the horny old goats who screwed the pooch, as it were.



Now that's an entourage. Does the President routinely travel with a CAP when leaving the US?
 
 
Link Posted: 4/15/2012 4:21:35 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/15/2012 4:26:23 PM EDT
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The article I read said Special Operations Soldiers. If I had to guess, I'd say probably commo guys from a USASOC Signal Bn to provide secure coms. I went to SLC with a guy that claimed he used to do TDY trips plainclothes to provide commo support for SECDEF. Does the Army Signal Corps still have responsibility for the Presidents communications and run the WH phones?
Link Posted: 4/15/2012 4:35:03 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/15/2012 4:55:56 PM EDT
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Most of the folks I know that did this type of work just picked up the girls working at the hotels and resturants without resorting to pros.  They had it down to a science.  
Link Posted: 4/15/2012 5:37:05 PM EDT
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Pretty fucking lame for the finest security service in the world.
Link Posted: 4/15/2012 6:32:13 PM EDT
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Most of the folks I know that did this type of work just picked up the girls working at the hotels and resturants without resorting to pros.  They had it down to a science.  


like the cleaning lady?
Link Posted: 4/15/2012 7:03:14 PM EDT
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Hookers the world over normally take good care of their customers. If what was reported is true then at least one of these guys broke an unwritten international law by not paying for her services. A customer can do a lot of shit but don't mess with her rice bowl.
 
Link Posted: 4/15/2012 7:22:50 PM EDT
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I was assistant team leader for our squadron's deployment to Tocumen Airbase for the November 2005 SOA trip.

The logistical train alone was impressive: 6 F-15s for CAP from the 1st FW out of Langley, K-135 from Illinois Air Guard, C-17 from, somewhere, plus a spare for the vehicle entourage. AWACS out of Tinker IIRC. Marine One, which had hitched a ride on the C-17, plus its contingent of Marines, a State Department C-40 with SD staff and assorted spooks, AF 1 and backup, etc. Plus a 757 from United carrying the press pool.

The 820th guys from Moody AFB guarded AF1, we provided security for the F-15s, tankers, and airlifters. I was not terribly impressed by the 820th guys, who are usually very professional.


Much of SS advon consists of the security team, but also "retired" agents who secure the vehicles and do other mundane tasks leaving the ST guys to take care of business. Willing to bet it was one of the horny old goats who screwed the pooch, as it were.

Now that's an entourage. Does the President routinely travel with a CAP when leaving the US?

   


Yes, and No. Since Panama was a long term stop, and because Colombia was just a stones throw away we had a bigger "footprint". Also it's based upon intel/threat assesment. Don't ask me anymore or I'll have to whip out a recipe a la LimaXray.
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 3:25:27 AM EDT
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So an American, no matter where he is, must follow the laws of America and those of the goverment where he actually is?  A violation of something illegal in America, even if done in Canada, japan, germany can be prosecuted in a US court? Say prosecute an American tourist for speeding, on the auto-ban?  Prosecute an American tourist for SBS violations for handling a 14" shotgun in a Toronto gun store?  That the courts would tolerate such is crazy.


The US will prosecute you for sex tourism. They also tried to put the Blackwater guys on trial for murder here for something that happened in Iraq.

 
Only for an underage minor.
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 4:40:29 AM EDT
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Most of the folks I know that did this type of work just picked up the girls working at the hotels and restaurants without resorting to pros.  They had it down to a science.  


like the cleaning lady?
No more like the women at the front desk, hostesses, waitresses......  As a young engineering working with thee guys a learned a lot.

Link Posted: 4/16/2012 4:45:32 AM EDT
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So an American, no matter where he is, must follow the laws of America and those of the goverment where he actually is?  A violation of something illegal in America, even if done in Canada, japan, germany can be prosecuted in a US court? Say prosecute an American tourist for speeding, on the auto-ban?  Prosecute an American tourist for SBS violations for handling a 14" shotgun in a Toronto gun store?  That the courts would tolerate such is crazy.





The US will prosecute you for sex tourism. They also tried to put the Blackwater guys on trial for murder here for something that happened in Iraq.


 

Only for an underage minor.



Yep.  From wiki:




Under the PROTECT Act of April 2003, it is a federal crime, prosecutable in the United States,
for a U.S. citizen or permanent resident alien, to engage in illicit
sexual conduct in a foreign country with a person under the age of 18,
whether or not the U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident alien
intended to engage in such illicit sexual conduct prior to going abroad.
For purposes of the PROTECT Act, illicit sexual conduct includes any
commercial sex act in a foreign country with a person under the age of
18. The law defines a commercial sex act as any sex act, on account of
which anything of value is given to or received by a person under the
age of 18.[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sex_tourism#cite_note-41][42][/url]
Before congressional passage of the Protect Act of 2003, prosecutors
had to prove that sex tourists went abroad with the intent of molesting
children—something almost impossible to demonstrate. The Protect Act
shifted the burden, making predators liable for the act itself.
Penalties were doubled from 15 years in prison to 30.[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sex_tourism#cite_note-gerson-6][7][/url]

 
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 2:01:56 PM EDT
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Most of the folks I know that did this type of work just picked up the girls working at the hotels and resturants without resorting to pros.  They had it down to a science.  


Yep, plenty of free out there.

I did two Presidential Support missions; one to Nicaragua/El Salvador for Clinton, and one to Sweden for Bush. I much preferred Central America over Sweden, plus it was a longer TDY. Original mission was the Banner, but it got put on hold, but we went down anyway for Humanitarian relief support. After that was done we sat around for a week with nothing to do until the Banner kicked off. After Clinton left we were stuck there with no available airlift except for a C5 crew that took us as far as El Salvador to meet up with our other guys. We hung out there waiting around for another plane that could take us all the way back home. No, we didn't just sit around doing nothing, we went out on the town. Hell during the month before Clinton came in we were the only Americans, other then missionaries, in Managua. Once we got the heads up that the Banner was kicking off and started to receive the helos, comm, and Limos, the "American" population of Managua blossomed. SS, WHCA, then the WH Press corps flooded the bars and clubs. I will say that El Salvador has some very nice strip clubs, and yes they also were prostitutes that you could pay for, but I don't know of anyone who did. I'm kind of surprised the hotel actually allowed a local in, most of the upper-class hotels I have stayed in in Central/South America don't allow locals in.

Sweden was a little more subdued and civilian clothes only. But for us, since we got there a couple weeks before anybody else, had a good time being the only Americans in town. Then again, the SS, and WHCA came in and flooded the bars. I would say that that trip was more subdued because of the protests and riots.

This whole story is being blown way out of proportion. Like another poster said; you don't hear about the stuff that goes on until somebody fucks up.
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 8:22:34 PM EDT
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We also have to keep perspective on this.  They were only protecting Obama after all.  






 
Link Posted: 4/17/2012 3:21:43 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/17/2012 3:30:34 AM EDT
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Top one applies hilarity here


Link Posted: 4/17/2012 3:45:59 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/17/2012 10:02:49 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/17/2012 4:14:37 PM EDT
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Up to 21 women brought to Colombia hotel by agents and military members, senator says



Secret Service agents and members of the U.S. military brought as many as 21 women back to their hotel during their assignment to Colombia last week, a top senator briefed on the prostitution scandal said Tuesday.

With 11 Secret Service agents and 10 military servicemembers allegedly involved, the account raises the possibility that everyone accused of misconduct could have tried to sneak women back to their rooms.

Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, the top Republican on the Senate homeland security committee, revealed the details after she was briefed for a half-hour Monday night by Secret Service Director Mark Sullivan. Collins said she learned that U.S. Marines, as well as the 11 Secret Service agents now on administrative leave, were allegedly involved.

"There are 11 agents involved. Twenty or 21 women foreign nationals were brought to the hotel, but allegedly Marines were involved with the rest," Collins said in a statement.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/04/17/up-to-21-women-brought-to-colombia-hotel-by-agents-and-military-members-senator/#ixzz1sK370Daq
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/04/17/up-to-21-women-brought-to-colombia-hotel-by-agents-and-military-members-senator/#ixzz1sK2wQ8NF


WHLOs doing a great job I see
Link Posted: 4/17/2012 5:04:08 PM EDT
[#29]
You would think with a name like Secret Service - They would know how to get serviced secretly!


Bill O'Reilly Show tonight... I about fell off my chair laughing!!!

Link Posted: 4/17/2012 6:25:45 PM EDT
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I saw where it is 5 Army, including some Green Berets, a couple Navy, an Airman, and a couple Marines. Looks like they were spreading the love around evenly.
 
Link Posted: 4/17/2012 7:19:12 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/17/2012 8:45:45 PM EDT
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this version is bigger than the one above

Link Posted: 4/17/2012 10:12:38 PM EDT
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Personnel Reliability Program

When I was .mil, there was this program called the Personal Reliability Program, or PRP.  If you were in PRP, you could be dismissed from your assignment for essentially any reason.   Anything.   Or Nothing.    The point of the program was basically that your job was so sensitive that only people worthy of extraordinary trust could be allowed to do it.   Damage the command's trust in you and you were gone. Bringing public discredit to ones command was generally considered a breach of PRP.    Although putatively designed for speacial weapons programs, PRP extended well beyond weapons programs.

I'm sure the USSS has something very similar.




Link Posted: 4/18/2012 4:50:33 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/18/2012 4:58:13 AM EDT
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I heard that Ted Nugent and the 22 SS agents are going to film a documentary music video on a hilltop. They're going to recreate that "I'm going to buy the world some Coke" ad from decades ago...

Any truth to this rumor?

Edit: Not true!
Link Posted: 4/18/2012 5:01:11 AM EDT
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I was watching this on Fox, the infobabe pronounced Cartagena "CartaJENNa"


I've known how to pronounce this since I was young.  Michael Douglas and Kathleen Turner made a damn fine movie back in the day.
Link Posted: 4/18/2012 5:17:56 AM EDT
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I see we have a few french fry jockeys in this thread who think this is perfectly ok for SS agents to behave like this. Tell you what, when McDonald's sends you to Colombia to train the people down there to make fries, then go ahead, get some hookers.  People who have serious jobs need to act professional.


Did your boyfriend cheat on you with a Colombian hooker?


Sorry to offend you.  I'm sure you will be promoted soon to making the salads.


No offense, your salad tossing job is safe.  Maybe you'll grow up and realize not everyone is a puritan prude about sex.


It has nothing to do with being a puritan prude, which I'm quite far from.  It has everything to do with taking one's job seriously.  Protecting the President is a very serious job, regardless of how much of a turd he may be. If the agents were on vacation, I would be all for them getting some 'tang.  However, they were there on business.  Very important business.  On the taxpayer's dime no less.


Why these points escape some people is incredible to me.



They've never had a serious enough job. Not saying they aren't paid well or even uneducated. They just haven't experienced it or realize what is important.
Link Posted: 4/18/2012 5:19:06 AM EDT
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If they're not married, I don't see a problem getting some poon.  It's not illegal there.  The GD basement dwellers would go
full tard on a drumset for some fine latin pie.  I trust the SS to keep their mouth shut about security procedures.  Hypocrisy is
strong in this thread.


Because of human trafficking laws, the usage of prostitution is illegal for those under US law even when overseas.

This hit US service member quite often, even in places were prostitution is legal.


It's illegal for an American to use a prostitute in a country where it's lawfull?   That's crazy and if true a bigger infringement than obamacare.  Jurisdiction stops at the national border.


So I don't have to pay taxes for money I earned in Qatar?


If you don't bring it back to the US....then no.

If you bring your hooker back you would get in a bit of trouble as well.
Link Posted: 4/18/2012 5:20:39 AM EDT
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As I understand it,  being SS on Obama's detail is no picnic.  Obama apparently doesn't like the SS or what it stands for (An America he wants to see transformed into a communist shithole) and the lack of love between Obama and the SS is apparently quite mutual.    

So, the SS certainly is lacking a morally upright role model.  Is it any wonder that some of them might not reach the highest goals of integrity and service, given who their boss is and how he acts?


Funny, you never heard of such shenanigans going on during the Bush (I or II) years, or the Reagan years.


CJ


Grown men can see an asshole and choose to go the other way morally. Obame being an idiot is no excuse for grown men.
Link Posted: 4/18/2012 6:43:37 AM EDT
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Marines were dag handlers.
Link Posted: 4/18/2012 7:35:42 AM EDT
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It also has colombia spelled correctly....
Link Posted: 4/18/2012 12:21:16 PM EDT
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Sitting on a couch in her living room wearing a short jean skirt,
high-heeled espadrilles and a tight spandex top with a plunging
neckline, the woman described how she and a girlfriend were approached
by a group of American men at a discotheque.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/19/world/americas/colombian-escort-speaks-about-secret-service-scandal.html?_r=2&hp





Pics?  




Link Posted: 4/18/2012 1:51:17 PM EDT
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If they're not married, I don't see a problem getting some poon.  It's not illegal there.  The GD basement dwellers would go
full tard on a drumset for some fine latin pie.  I trust the SS to keep their mouth shut about security procedures.  Hypocrisy is
strong in this thread.


Because of human trafficking laws, the usage of prostitution is illegal for those under US law even when overseas.

This hit US service member quite often, even in places were prostitution is legal.


It's illegal for an American to use a prostitute in a country where it's lawfull?   That's crazy and if true a bigger infringement than obamacare.  Jurisdiction stops at the national border.


So I don't have to pay taxes for money I earned in Qatar?


If you don't bring it back to the US....then no.

If you bring your hooker back you would get in a bit of trouble as well.


Actually if you're an American citizen, you do have to pay taxes on overseas earnings, whether you "bring it back" or not.
Link Posted: 4/18/2012 1:56:37 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/18/2012 2:12:54 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/18/2012 2:30:33 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/18/2012 2:44:03 PM EDT
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Sitting on a couch in her living room wearing a short jean skirt, high-heeled espadrilles and a tight spandex top with a plunging neckline, the woman described how she and a girlfriend were approached by a group of American men at a discotheque.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/19/world/americas/colombian-escort-speaks-about-secret-service-scandal.html?_r=2&hp


Pics?  



She wanted $800?  That seems way too high.
Link Posted: 4/18/2012 2:50:57 PM EDT
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They are gonna go from protecting the President to protecting a strip mall.

Dumbasses.
 


They will be bad ass mall ninjas.
Link Posted: 4/18/2012 2:58:58 PM EDT
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It was legal there so what concern is it of the Secret Service what their agents are doing on their free time if it's legal? Is it their bosses jobs to be their wives?

I mean hey, the married ones broke God's Commandment and their vows, but that's between them and God.


Imagine that you have a job that is of a high security nature, one in which people's lives as well as the fate of nations depends on your integrity and the integrity of your performance.

Now start behaving in a manner that gives someone the opportunity to blackmail you.

See the problem now?



Have we heard these guys were married? Why is this news? Ex-military bad ass types seen with hookers in foreign country, wow, never heard of that this is pure politics.

Who was it that said: "show me a guy that don't F#CK and I'll show you a guy that won't fight !!!!!!!!'

Link Posted: 4/18/2012 3:07:07 PM EDT
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New low ‘blow’: Coke eyed at Secret Service ho-down

Cocaine and several bottles of whiskey apparently fueled the elite agents’ boneheaded fling with about 20 hookers at a posh hotel in Cartagena, Colombia, a hotel staffer told The Post.

The employee responded to the trashed room with police and other Hotel El Caribe workers when one prostitute raised hell after a Secret Service member initially refused to pay her.

“When I went upstairs I walked into a messy room. The room was littered with two whiskey bottles — and a line of white powder, I believed to be cocaine, was on top of a round glass table in the room,” the staffer told The Post...


http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/new_low_blow_VCZSU5Mmdn2nzzkLPMIR4H#ixzz1sR7x1Xwi
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