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Posted: 7/6/2002 12:37:49 AM EDT
Link Posted: 7/6/2002 2:32:47 AM EDT
We have a pretty sad situation here in Michigan...all the possible Democratic candidates are seriously anti-gun (gee, that's different) and one of them, the current AG, Granholm, is very electable. She's smart, pretty, carismatic and on a mission. The best the Republicans can come up with is the current Lt Gov., Posthumus. Nice guy and all, but a face and personality like a plate of plain oatmeal. Unless something unexpected happens we're gonna be in for a long stretch under Gov. Jenny. Frickin' Republicans can't find a contender to save their asses.
Link Posted: 7/6/2002 7:17:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/6/2002 6:55:37 PM EDT by crowboy]
Link Posted: 7/6/2002 11:11:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/6/2002 11:12:08 AM EDT by Benjamin0001]
You guys should recruit Lawrence Reed of the MacKinac Think Tank... He is libertarian. [url]http://www.mackinac.org/article.asp?ID=3989[/url] Ben
Link Posted: 7/6/2002 11:20:38 AM EDT
I don't know what seat he is running for yet, been too busy to look into it yet, but I had Jud Gilbert show up at my door a feww weeks ago. He is a hell of a guy and we had a rather brief, favorable, conversation on individual gun ownership. Actually, I was amazed that an incumabt was willing to drive all the way out in the sticks to see a 20 year old voter. Yes, he came to see me specifically not my parents. Oh yeah, he is running for state representative 82nd district Keving67
Link Posted: 7/6/2002 3:18:28 PM EDT
Yeah election year is going to stink this year in Michigan. I have zero clue who I am going to vote for in the primary or the elction for the fact. I have never been so undecided for Governor, I will probaly vote Libertarian or write my own name on the ballot. If anybody else wants to write my name on the ballot email me and I will post it here.
Link Posted: 7/6/2002 6:14:29 PM EDT
Dick Posthumus (what a horrible name) has done well in some of the polls and has started to turn up the heat in advertising. I agree that DP is not all that exciting, but he is more exciting than the ever-expanding John Engler.
Link Posted: 7/6/2002 9:24:05 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/6/2002 10:18:06 PM EDT
Not as friendly as you think. NO SBRs, in fact nothing under 18 inches. Most states have 16 inches as the rule. NO Class III weapons period. CCW is shall issue but has serious restrictions on where you can carry. How long it takes is determined by which county you live in. Rifles do not require registration but you still go though the NICS when you purchase one. Unless the Republicans have something underneath their sleeves we are going to take one up the A**. I think we were spoiled by two terms with a Republican Governor.
Link Posted: 7/7/2002 8:38:30 AM EDT
As posted by ARDOC,
NO Class III weapons period
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[b]Not necessarily true[/b], NFA listed weapons are legal for possession in Michigan provided the weapon is listed on the ATF curio & relic list, And you have A valid C&R ffl. Most michigan politicans (the ones trolling the gun shows for my vote anyway). I have asked dont know what the hell a Class III/NFA weapon is. Their aren't any M-16's on the C&R list. But there are plenty of cold war,WWII and earlier era weapons listed. That can give you that warm fuzzy that only a FA can supply. The largest hurdle for mg ownership in michigan is the same as in every other state. The CLEO sign off [shock]
Link Posted: 7/7/2002 8:47:28 AM EDT
18 inch minumum is shotguns, not rifles. 16 inchers are okay for rifles, at least as of the last time i read that section of michigan law. CCW is easy from what i understand in at least two detroit area counties, with the exception round here being the county of wayne (includes detroit itself) where the administrative crap takes forever... like anything else in wayne county. BUT, at this point i'm not going to bother getting a CCW... granholm will be elected, and she's freakishly against the current CCW law.
Link Posted: 7/7/2002 9:56:32 AM EDT
Yes C&R weapons are legal, Luger is correct. The CLEO signature is a bitch. If anyone goes on a shooting spree with one, the Chief's career is kaput! Not sure about the 18 for shotguns. I was under the impression that its all long guns. Thats why if you try to buy an UZI barrel, they will tell you its legal in MI and a couple of other states.
Link Posted: 7/7/2002 10:42:37 AM EDT
The CCW process was/is relatively easy in the county I live in. The restrictions are annoying, but it is way better than it used to be for the vast majority of gun owners in this state. Regarding the political climate. Engler has not exactly been all that pro-gun. He signed the recent CCW legislation, but had threatened to veto it several other times in the past. As for Granholm, I am not willing to concede the election to her yet. Even if she does win, she can't repeal CCW without the help of the legislature (which is republican).
Link Posted: 7/7/2002 11:40:15 AM EDT
At least you have your shall-issue CCW. We don't have ours (yet) in WI and are faced with the very real possibility of a Democrat in our Governor's office next year. When Tommy Thompson left for Washington, Scott McCallum was next in line and ascended to the office. McCallum might be in big trouble next November.... [V] The Democratic primary will likely come down to the current AG Jim Doyle (a commie gun grabber) and former Rep. Tom Barret (F- from the NRA). Could be tough times for the midwest.
Link Posted: 7/7/2002 8:45:27 PM EDT
Hey tatjana Do you have ties in Michigan? Its seems that I see you haved popped in the few of the Michigan topics.
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