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Posted: 7/1/2002 12:18:48 PM EDT
Canadian culture? [>:/] MONTREAL (CP) -- Six out of 10 Canadians felt the prevalence of American culture in the country was a threat to our own culture's survival, suggests a new survey. The Leger Marketing poll indicated 61 per cent of the 1,500 Canadians surveyed defined the threat as very or somewhat important, while 36 per cent said it was somewhat or very unimportant. Another three per cent of respondents said they didn't know or refused to answer. Council spokeswoman Donna Balkan said one theory for such concern about cultural sovereignty is that people have become more attached to their own cultural identity in the face of increased globalization. "If the majority of Canadians are concerned about potential domination by American culture, they're more likely to support, nurture and encourage the work of Canadian artists," Balkan said in an interview from Ottawa. There's no doubt Canadians care about their culture, said Mike Gasher, an assistant professor of journalism at Concordia University who has written extensively on cultural policy. "We're cultural consumers," said Gasher. "As much as American popular culture is part of our popular culture, in certain areas such as books and magazines and movies, we still want to touch base with what our own writers and filmmakers are doing. "I think the two can exist at the same time." Most of the other questions included in the survey solicited Canadians' views on various cultural interests, such as movies, theatre, art exhibits, books and television. In the case of movies, 63 per cent of respondents said they had seen a film at a movie theatre in the last 12 months. Of those people, 30 per cent said they had seen at least one Canadian movie. While fewer respondents -- 37 per cent -- had seen a play during the same period, 61 per cent of those theatregoers had watched a Canadian production. On the literary front, 73 per cent of people polled said they had read a book in the last year. Of that group, 61 per cent had read at least one book penned by a Canadian author. The margin of error increases for smaller sample sizes. Balkan said she was somewhat taken aback by the results of the film question. She pointed to statistics suggesting that 97 per cent of screen time in Canadian movie theatres is taken up by non-Canadian films. "So the fact that 30 per cent of Canadians saw a Canadian film is very impressive. It shows there is increasing public interest in the Canadian film industry." The same can be said about live theatre, a reflection of the fact more companies now stage Canadian-written work, added Balkan. While the poll doesn't offer up any clues as to why Canadians feel threatened by American culture, Gasher said one possibility could be that people are seeing some homegrown material marginalized, or squeezed out of the marketplace altogether. Magazine stands, for example, are stacked with American publications, leaving those seeking a Canadian alternative to dig to the back of the rack. The situation is similar for plays and movies, where geography, not preference, is often the determining factor. "Even if you wanted to see a Canadian movie it isn't always possible because often there isn't one playing at a theatre near you," said Gasher.
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Link Posted: 7/1/2002 12:22:39 PM EDT
Yeah,i thought they were the 51st state. if they're so pissed off about us, perhaps they could try surviving on their own?
Link Posted: 7/1/2002 12:23:41 PM EDT
The sport of hockey is in no jeopardy from us.
Link Posted: 7/1/2002 12:29:18 PM EDT
What a coincidence. I just polled me, and found that 61% of Canadians can go piss up a rope.
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Link Posted: 7/1/2002 12:46:41 PM EDT
Canadian culture?
Link Posted: 7/1/2002 12:46:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Celt: What a coincidence. I just polled me, and found that 61% of Canadians can go piss up a rope.
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While I agree with you sentiments, I need someone to explain that expression for me. Possibilities: 1. Urinating while hanging on to the upward postion of a dangling rope. Since the hands would be somewhat busied by holding on to the rope, pissing while "up a rope" one would either risk falling, or urinating on themselves since the hands would be on the rope rather than on the hoffman. Either eventuality would busy said "pisser" in more productive activities that these Canadiens are currently engaged in. 2. Urinate on a rope using an upward motion. While significantly less dangerous or humuiating that option #1, it still would convey the desired message of "bugger off" by those recommending others piss "up" a rope. Ahhh, the intricacies of the English language. [:D]
Link Posted: 7/1/2002 1:02:44 PM EDT
Only you, G-man.....
Link Posted: 7/1/2002 1:03:18 PM EDT
These polls are total bullshit! Canadians (my Canada does not include quebec). Feel a bond with are fellow North Americans. Culture WTF are they talking about? We eat the same food,we wear the same clothes, we listen to the same music, we watch the same TV shows and go too the same movies, we have the same values, we want the same things for are families, we drive the same cars, we watch and participate in the same sports. We are 95% the same. This is just more liberal B.S. When the liberals talk about culture what they really mean is "liberal " values. They are afraid the more Canadians learn and interact with the United States the less power they will have. We can only hope!
Link Posted: 7/1/2002 1:05:58 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Celt: What a coincidence. I just polled me, and found that 61% of Canadians can go piss up a rope.
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bwahahahahaha!!!!!! lonnie, is that you ??
Link Posted: 7/1/2002 1:07:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/1/2002 1:10:03 PM EDT by Gunner1X]
Is it just me or does this article seem to lack something...oh, like SUBSTANCE! [b]So basically, at the end of the day;(according to this survey) Our movies and magazines are good and theirs suck. SHOCKING![/b][:O] Hmmm, I wonder how many VIETNAM era US draft dodgers participated in this survey. That could explain the skewed results. Poor, lonely disenfranchised traitors looking for reminders of home. Screw 'em! I'm sick of the rest of the world bitching about the US. We're a bunch of politically incorrect barbarians until someone needs us to bail their butts out a war or finacial jam. Inhale....exhale....inhale...exhale...OK, I'm feeling much better now.[^]
Link Posted: 7/1/2002 1:08:26 PM EDT
Six out of 10 Canadians felt the prevalence of American culture in the country was a threat to our own culture's survival. I would feel the same way if canada airforce dropped a 500 pounder on of our units in a freindly fire misshap like just happened in afganistan. I would be figgen PISSED off. We did say we were sorry.
Link Posted: 7/1/2002 1:09:47 PM EDT
Only 61%? Damn! We're not doing it right!
Link Posted: 7/1/2002 1:10:14 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Celt: Only you, G-man.....
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My apologies, Celt. I was an English minor in college. And in the top 3% of the country in English and grammar when graduating high school. Its a charachter flaw. [BD]
Link Posted: 7/1/2002 1:15:06 PM EDT
Ren: And WHAT is Canada's greatest natural resource?!! Stimpy: ....dirt? Ren: YES!!
Link Posted: 7/1/2002 1:18:53 PM EDT
What is a good Canadian movie? "Bob and Ted's most excellent moose hunt"? [thinking] ...Oh yeah, they gave us South Park: the Movie and Baseketball. "blame Canada, blame Canada, blame Canada"[}:D][}:D] lib just kidding Canadians
Link Posted: 7/1/2002 1:25:38 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Libertoon: What is a good Canadian movie?
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Strange Brew [;)]
Link Posted: 7/1/2002 1:32:59 PM EDT
Every Hollywood movie is made in Canada. lol! Some times I think I live on a studio lot, they are always filming in my neighborhood.
Link Posted: 7/1/2002 1:45:52 PM EDT
Its a charachter flaw
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Shouldn't that read, "It's a character flaw?"z
Link Posted: 7/1/2002 2:09:22 PM EDT
Silly Canadians. So, 61% of them complain that we will wreck their culture? If that is the case, why do 98% of them live within 25 miles of the border? Maybe the 61% are GOOD Canadians who like the OLD America that no longer exists and they're afraid that our "New World Order" is going to wreck THEIR sucky new laws? Hmmm? Polls suck and are aimed at idiots. Someday soon, Canada will look like a good place to live...
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Link Posted: 7/1/2002 2:11:48 PM EDT
Oh...That poll was taken in Montreal. Yeah, buncha good culture there, eh. Anything French makes me sick.
Link Posted: 7/1/2002 2:17:39 PM EDT
They are just pissed that people worldwide only know of Canada as the ice enshrouded lump of Arctic Hell north of the United States. New Brunswick is some good stuff, grandmother is from there. Too bad that lump of shit known as Quebec is sitting in the middle of the nation.
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[Last Edit: 7/1/2002 2:24:38 PM EDT by Stormbringer]
Originally Posted By ura_baddog: Six out of 10 Canadians felt the prevalence of American culture in the country was a threat to our own culture's survival. I would feel the same way if canada airforce dropped a 500 pounder on of our units in a freindly fire misshap like just happened in afganistan. I would be figgen PISSED off. We did say we were sorry.
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Actually the pilot never publicly said that he was sorry. That has all that the families of the 4 dead and the 8 injured have asked for. The Canadian Investigators were not allowed to interview the pilot in an effort to find out what happened that terrible night......... Oh BTW as I type I am watching Canadian Bacon on Movie Pix..... LOL Silly Yanks
Link Posted: 7/1/2002 2:21:21 PM EDT
Hmmmmm, I wonder how many of that 61% come to the US for their medical treatment?? Sad thing is, a poll done in the US would probably show more than 61% of Americans think we should become more, (we are), like our socialist neighbors to the north......
Link Posted: 7/1/2002 2:22:28 PM EDT
Originally Posted By shotar: I suggest the Immediate annexation of Canada. If her Majesty choses to respond we simply repeat their humiliation of 1812.
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Ummmm Shotar....WE WON the war of 1812. Its really quite simple actually. The Americans invaded Canada to take it over while the English were busy fighting Napolean... However the Canadian Milita along with Indians and those English Soldiers that were already here were able to hold the American IMERIALISTIC INVADERS at bay. This of course ended with the defeat of the French...... Now England had thousands of blooded troops ready to go to war.....However they were somewhat tired of war and did not press the issue seeking peace instead... Since the USA attacked looking for increased territory..... And since it is evident that I am still a Canadian....the USA LOST!!!! LOL
Link Posted: 7/1/2002 2:37:16 PM EDT
This is one of the funnier polls I've seen. First of all, the poll wasn't a poll on US-Canadian attitudes, it was a poll on the Arts in Canada. Which, if I'm guessing correctly, would in most polled households result in a big yawn and a click followed by the sound of the dial tone. Then there's that inexplicable surge in Canadian film viewing, if the poll is to be believed. 3% of the films (the Canadian ones) were apparently viewed by 30% of those polled. Since Canadian films just don't attract ten times as many viewers, this shows a bit of a problem with the results of the poll. At a minimum it suggests that those polled were from an atypical sample group consisting largely of Canadian arts and film buffs. Ignorance and/or deceit could also explain things. Still, what Dugster and Devilsadvocate says. Except that according to the CIA World Factbook, 'approximately 85% of the population is concentrated within 300 km of the US/Canada border.'
Link Posted: 7/1/2002 4:03:38 PM EDT
If you took the same poll in the same place and asked it differently they would say the same thing about the REST OF CANADA! French Canadians been trying to secede for years. I say let 'um. We should make B.C. the 51st state anyway.
Link Posted: 7/1/2002 4:09:59 PM EDT
We [b]ARE[/b] a threat to all countries culture/s. Three of our finest exports are rock music, fast-food and language. Enough to kill any culture. So what.
Link Posted: 7/1/2002 5:51:09 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Boomer:
Originally Posted By Libertoon: What is a good Canadian movie?
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Strange Brew [;)]
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Like....lets drink some beeer, eh? [beer]
Link Posted: 7/2/2002 4:08:45 AM EDT
WE WON the war of 1812.
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"WE"? Still consider yourself a Brit, then....?
bwahahahahaha!!!!!! lonnie, is that you ??
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Nope.
My apologies, Celt. I was an English minor in college.
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Wan that April with is shura soeta the drought....
Link Posted: 7/2/2002 7:20:33 AM EDT
Funny, I just took a poll and 98% of the people I called at random didn't give a shit what Canadian 'enthusiasts of the arts' thought about the invasiveness of U.S. culture. Polls and statistics have NO relevance without controls.
Link Posted: 7/2/2002 8:22:46 AM EDT
Just one thing for you Canadian Bashers to think about.(OCEAN I borowed this from you ) 1. SO, WHAT DO CANADIANS HAVE TO BE PROUD OF: 1. Smarties 2. Crispy Crunch, Coffee Crisp 3. The size of our footballs fields and one less down 4. Baseball is Canadian 5. Lacrosse is Canadian 6. Hockey is Canadian 7. Basketball is Canadian 8. Apple pie is Canadian 9. Mr. Dress-up kicks Mr. Rogers ass 10. Tim Hortons kicks Dunkin' Donuts ass 11. In the war of 1812, started by America, Canadians pushed the Americans back...past their 'White House'. Then we burned it...and most of Washington, under the command of William Lyon McKenzie who was insane and hammered all the time. We got bored because they ran away, so we came home and partied...Go figure.. 12. Canada has the largest French population that never surrendered to Germany. 13. We have the largest English population that never ever surrendered or withdrew during any war to anyone, anywhere at any time. 14. Our civil war was a bar fight that lasted a little over an hour. 15. The only person who was arrested in our civil war was an American mercenary, who slept in and missed the whole thing... but showed up just in time to get caught. 16. We knew plaid was cool far before Seattle caught on. 17. The Hudsons Bay Company once owned over 10% of the earth's surface and is still around as the worlds oldest company. 18. The average dog sled team can kill and devour a full grown human in under 3 minutes. 19. We still know what to do with all the parts of a buffalo. 20. We don't marry our kin-folk. 21. We invented ski-doos, jet-skis, velcro, zippers, insulin, penicillin, zambonis, the telephone and short wave radios that save countless lives each year. 22. We ALL have frozen our tongues to something metal and lived to tell about it. 23. A Canadian invented Superman. BUT MOST IMPORTANT! 24. The handles on our beer cases are big enough to fit your hands with mitts on. OOOoohhhhh Canada!! Oh yeah... and our elections only take ONE day And We are one of the most liked Countrys in the world ,and if you say the US is too you beter get your head checked .
Link Posted: 7/2/2002 8:34:45 AM EDT
Most socialist countries feel that way about us...so what else is new..besides the poll was probably taken in Ottawa or some other urban environment..kinda of like the blue zones during our last elelction.. Heck if you took that same survey in Madison, Wi. Im guessing the number of anti american americans would be closer to 80% especially if college is in session..and even worse if you polled the morons in summer school. [:)]
Link Posted: 7/2/2002 8:57:29 AM EDT
What are these people talking about?! I have lived all over North America in my short 18 year life, and I can assuredly say that Canada is more part of the United States then say, another place I lived, Alabama, now that place was just alien...no offense to Baman board members [:D]
Link Posted: 7/2/2002 9:52:39 AM EDT
Originally Posted By mini_14: 17. The Hudsons Bay Company once owned over 10% of the earth's surface and is still around as the worlds oldest company.
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I thought Beretta was.
Link Posted: 7/2/2002 10:32:49 AM EDT
I find it pretty Funny that the most "powerful country in the world" relies on Canada for Power and Water but you cant pay your Bills. How much was the last bill from califoria?did they forget to pay? You cant forget that. Oh I almost forgot the Lumber Tarif 29% and I though there was a free trade agrement ,I forgot It is only good if it is in benifit to the USA. Oh well mabey the canadian Gov't will just pull the plug on the power and water that you dont pay us for (that make our taxes go up)and we will keep it for our selfs
Link Posted: 7/2/2002 10:43:49 AM EDT
[b]We have the largest English population that never ever surrendered or withdrew during any war to anyone, anywhere at any time. Well, the fewer wars you get in, the fewer losses you risk.[/b] What wars havent we been in ,You tell me when did canada join ww2 and when did the USA? lets see in afganistan now how many freindlys have you bombed or wedding parties? And I havent heard any other countries bombing freindlys. and what about that canadian sniper 2500y comfirmed kill. I wont forget the other one he has the most comfermed kills of all in history canadian again. thanks
Link Posted: 7/2/2002 10:47:52 AM EDT
Originally Posted By mini_14: 12. Canada has the largest French population that never surrendered to Germany. .
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Oddly, Canada also has the only contingency of French peoples to never be threatened by a German invasion. Coincidence? I think not. [:D]
Link Posted: 7/2/2002 10:51:49 AM EDT
ROFL. Add me to that poll Celt......
Originally Posted By Celt: What a coincidence. I just polled me, and found that 61% of Canadians can go piss up a rope.
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Link Posted: 7/2/2002 3:56:05 PM EDT
Of course the Canadian sniper could hit that guy at 2500 yards...he was using an American rifle! [sniper] My apologies to the families of all coalition forces killed by friendly fire. I heard a story during that little thing over in Kosovo about Canada getting most of their armor onto one transport ship. And forgetting to pay the bill. Is there any truth to this?
Link Posted: 7/2/2002 4:20:08 PM EDT
My only issue with the Great White North is their totally open immigration policy. If you claim political oppression you get in. Osama could show up saying he's oppressed because Pakistan shut off his CNN and they'd let him in. The problem with this insane open door policy as with the wide open border, lots of bad guy types can cross easily. We have our own issues with open borders, but the Canadians could help by tightening up a bit. As I do quite a bit of biz up there I can say that this view is shared by many Canadians as well. And the french have WAY to much clout up there!
Link Posted: 7/2/2002 4:32:10 PM EDT
Originally Posted By mini_14: [b]I heard a story during that little thing over in Kosovo about Canada getting most of their armor onto one transport ship. And forgetting to pay the bill. Is there any truth to this?[/b] did that amout 400 milloin ? I think not [b]My only issue with the Great White North is their totally open immigration policy[/b] who has a higher crime rate? what dose it matter who we let in ,Its up to the USA customs to keep them out. [b]but the Canadians could help by tightening up a bit[/b] why should we worry about your country ?you should tighten your own damm boarders, we dont have any enimies
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WOW, not only is this guy a retard, but his screen name is mini14. good way to start off, fuckface.
Link Posted: 7/2/2002 4:39:52 PM EDT
Nice going, mini. Start off your ar15.com career by insulting people with illogical postings. [:K] -legrue btw, since when is baseball Canadian? Baseball, as it exists today, was invented in NY. Idiot.
Link Posted: 7/2/2002 6:28:10 PM EDT
Posted by az_larry My only issue with the Great White North is their totally open immigration policy. If you claim political oppression you get in. Osama could show up saying he's oppressed because Pakistan shut off his CNN and they'd let him in. The problem with this insane open door policy as with the wide open border, lots of bad guy types can cross easily. We have our own issues with open borders, but the Canadians could help by tightening up a bit. As I do quite a bit of biz up there I can say that this view is shared by many Canadians as well. And the french have WAY to much clout up there! Ya I agree, but my big problem is my tax dollars go to pay for their welfare, medical, dental and medication plus other benefits, it is insane. I don't get free dental or medication why should they. But as for open borders; 70% of our refuges and new immigrants pass through the United states before they get here that is a fact. The united States has a huge border problem from around the world not just it's physical borders.
Link Posted: 7/2/2002 6:41:45 PM EDT
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What with the French in Montreal and the increasing number of Muslims in Toronto, I'd say their "culture" could use some "cleaning" "EH!" What ever happened to the great bunch of "old Hosers" I once partied with???[:D][beer]
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