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Posted: 6/26/2002 6:28:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/26/2002 6:30:41 AM EDT by TacticalMan]
[url]http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2002260304,00.html[/url] [b]Gun-mad teachers jailed [/b] [i]Arsenal of evil ... some of the guns and ammunition found at homes of the teachers[/i] By JOHN ASKILL TWO gun-mad teachers were behind bars last night after hiding a sickening arsenal of weapons at their homes. The obsessed pair had hoarded their lethal collections despite a nationwide ban after the Dunblane massacre six years ago. Cops found [b]THIRTEEN[/b] handguns at the home of primary school teacher Thomas Hosty, 53. He also had two CS gas canisters, a stun gun and [b]hundreds[/b] of rounds of ammunition. Ex-secondary school master Borys Dmytrenko, 49, kept two loaded handguns by his bed. Hosty was jailed for 12 months and Dymtrenko for six at Derby Crown Court after admitting possessing illegal firearms and ammunition. They were trapped in a massive police operation designed to halt the rocketing supply of guns to Britain’s crime gangs. Instead police found a network of middle-class gun nuts who had refused to hand in weapons after Dunblane — when madman Thomas Hamilton killed 16 children and their teacher — and the Hungerford horror of 1987. Many of the guns had been converted, some had their appearance changed and some had serial numbers shaved off. They included a Smith & Wesson .38 revolver and a double-barrelled .22 Derringer pistol. Hosty had kept one of the handguns fully loaded in a bedside cabinet at his home in Shaw, Greater Manchester. He and retired teacher Dmytrenko, of Oldham, Greater Manchester, were members of the Diggle gun club in Oldham. Last night a police source said: “We were shocked that two teachers, one at a primary school, should be involved given the horrors of Dunblane. “But what is more shocking is that this appears to be the tip of the iceberg. We are finding weapons turning up all over the place as a result of this investigation. “Previously intelligence has suggested weapons coming in from Eastern Europe. But many of the handguns used in gangland killings and murders across the UK have originally come from sources like this within this country. “We are sure that a great many firearms are still being held illegally by gun obsessives such as these and that is obviously a danger to the public.” He added: “Hosty said he had guns to protect his family because there had been a rise in crime in his area. “But there had been no more than a handful of crimes in the past two years.” Four other men appeared in court on firearms charges. Fireman Howard Foster, 42, of Halifax, West Yorks, got a six-month suspended sentence. Engineer James Whitehead, 64, of Shaw — who police said converted many of the guns — will be sentenced later. Anton Ramsden 60, of Shaw, and John Hoarden 51, of Macclesfield, Cheshire, were given community service orders.
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when madman Thomas Hamilton killed 16 children and their teacher — and the Hungerford horror of 1987.
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And that's the reason he want to arm himself in the first place....and he is a criminal?... Nut!
Link Posted: 6/26/2002 6:47:31 AM EDT
If you lived in Manchester (crime capital of the UK) you'd have an arsenal too! Home invasions are common. Guns aren't. Makes you wonder, eh? Just like here the cops won't do anything until after the crime has been committed, except there you can't defend yourself. Might as well not bother locking your front door.
Link Posted: 6/26/2002 6:58:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/26/2002 6:59:02 AM EDT by fizassist]
Originally Posted By TacticalMan: They were trapped in a massive police operation designed to halt the rocketing supply of guns to Britain’s crime gangs. Instead police found a network of middle-class gun nuts who had refused to hand in weapons after Dunblane — when madman Thomas Hamilton killed 16 children and their teacher — and the Hungerford horror of 1987.
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Typical. If you can't stop people who are a threat to society, turn good people into criminals. It makes for good press.
They included a Smith & Wesson .38 revolver and a double-barrelled .22 Derringer pistol.
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Dear God, no! Not a [b]double-barrelled .22 Derringer[/b]. Oh, the humanity!
Hosty had kept one of the handguns fully loaded in a bedside cabinet at his home in Shaw, Greater Manchester.
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At least not everyone in England is a complete idiot.
He added: “Hosty said he had guns to protect his family because there had been a rise in crime in his area. “But there had been no more than a handful of crimes in the past two years.”
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Of course, "his area" has been defined as the area extending 5 meters radially from his bed.
Four other men appeared in court on firearms charges. Fireman Howard Foster, 42, of Halifax, West Yorks, got a six-month suspended sentence. Engineer James Whitehead, 64, of Shaw — who police said converted many of the guns — will be sentenced later.
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Here you see it, folks. The very worst elements of society hoarding weapons: Teachers, Firemen, Engineers. If we weren't headed in the same sickening direction, I'd laugh at the silly Brits. [V]
Link Posted: 6/26/2002 6:58:39 AM EDT
As you all know , the Britts are FOOLS. Remember , they are SUBJECTS of the CROWN. They are not a citizen as an American is a citizen. They are moving toward a socialist government. They are not allowed the same rights as we Americans have. That is why we have The Bill of Rights . The English Government doesn't trust their own people ( probably because of what we did in 1776 ).They are not a free people as we are. Just remind the Limeys that it was the NRA and the American gun owner who saved their asses in WWII with the lend-lease of firearms to go to the people BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT HAD DISARMED THEM !
Link Posted: 6/26/2002 7:11:26 AM EDT
"gun obsessives" [:D] How catchy, how PC!
Link Posted: 6/26/2002 7:20:03 AM EDT
Just another in a very long list of reasons why I have absolutely NO desire to travel outside the US. Screw'em. They deserve what they get. I have some good friends living in London and they are trying like hell to get out of the UK. God Bless America!!!
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Ladies, Gents, A suggestion: Click on the links and send an email to the Sun. -legrue
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Link Posted: 6/26/2002 8:08:13 AM EDT
Remember, this is where you have the same chance of getting cornholed as of a woman getting raped. A very progressive society.
Link Posted: 6/26/2002 8:11:57 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Pangea: Remember, this is where you have the same chance of getting cornholed as of a woman getting raped. A very progressive society.
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It's a way to fight sexual discrimination that I don't like at all... [}:D][}:D][}:D]
Link Posted: 6/26/2002 8:14:08 AM EDT
From the June 21 issue of the [url=http://news.ft.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=FT.com/StoryFT/FullStory&c=StoryFT&cid=1024578110380&p=1016456592370]Finanical Times of London[/url] “From April to November 2001 the number of people robbed at gunpoint in London rose 53 per cent.” “Your chances of being mugged in London are now six times greater than in New York. England's rates of assault, robbery and burglary are far higher than America's, and 53 per cent of English burglaries occur while occupants are at home, [b]compared with 13 per cent in the US, where burglars admit to fearing armed homeowners more than the police.[/b]” “This sea change in English crime is indicative of government policies that have gone badly wrong. Gun regulations have been part of a more general disarmament based on the premise that people don't need to protect themselves because society will protect them.” Sound fimilar? What is remarkable to me is that the article concludes that the British government made a serious mistake in outlawing the possession of firearms by citizens. Mike
Link Posted: 6/26/2002 8:19:45 AM EDT
Originally Posted By flashman: From the June 21 issue of the [url=http://news.ft.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=FT.com/StoryFT/FullStory&c=StoryFT&cid=1024578110380&p=1016456592370]Finanical Times of London[/url] “From April to November 2001 the number of people robbed at gunpoint in London rose 53 per cent.” “Your chances of being mugged in London are now six times greater than in New York. England's rates of assault, robbery and burglary are far higher than America's, and 53 per cent of English burglaries occur while occupants are at home, [b]compared with 13 per cent in the US, where burglars admit to fearing armed homeowners more than the police.[/b]” “This sea change in English crime is indicative of government policies that have gone badly wrong. Gun regulations have been part of a more general disarmament based on the premise that people don't need to protect themselves because society will protect them.” Sound fimilar? What is remarkable to me is that the article concludes that the British government made a serious mistake in outlawing the possession of firearms by citizens. Mike
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Maybe not all British journalists are morons...
Link Posted: 6/26/2002 9:24:53 AM EDT
[url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?id=122587&page=1[/url]
Link Posted: 6/26/2002 9:54:17 AM EDT
I thought TacMan might have edited the sotry to make the writer seem all the more retarded, but NOOOO!!!! this is exactly how the article reads. Seriously disturbing.
Link Posted: 6/26/2002 12:11:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/26/2002 12:12:35 PM EDT by bunghole]
So much for unbiased reporting.
Arsenal of evil gun-mad sickening arsenal of weapons obsessed pair hoarded their lethal collections gun nuts madman gun obsessives
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Link Posted: 6/28/2002 12:32:54 AM EDT
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