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Posted: 6/25/2002 10:10:05 AM EDT
KFWB is one of the 2 all news radio stations in L.A. ============================================================= [url]http://www.kfwb.com/news_international.asp?displayOption=&contentGUID={32FC69B6-827A-4C5E-AA35-BA09FF2EA252}&groupName=KFWB Front Page International Headlines&siteGUID={3B62BF55-4A93-48E6-A45D-6A495DC423AD}[/url] KFWB NEWS 980 -- ALL NEWS ALL THE TIME Tuesday, June 25, 2002 Emergency Meeting Over Carcinogen Report GENEVA (AP) 6.24.02, 10:15a -- Alarmed about new studies indicating that potato chips, french fries and certain types of bread contain a substance that may cause cancer, the World Health Organization has convened an emergency meeting to evaluate the research and decide what action to take. The three-day meeting, which opens Tuesday, follows the publication in April of a Swedish study that some starch-based foods cooked at high temperatures contained acrylamide. Acrylamide, used to produce plastics and dyes and to purify drinking water, has been shown to be carcinogenic in animal experiments and is suspected of causing cancer among people exposed to high levels for long periods. Although traces of it have been found in water, its possible presence at high levels in basic foods came as a shock. "If what we know from water and animal experiments is true, it could be a very significant source of cancer in humans," said Jorgen Schlundt, coordinator of WHO's food safety division. "It is not just another food scare," he said. Such was the level of WHO concern that it organized the gathering of 25 international experts within two months of the publication of the Swedish study. According to Schlundt, this set a "world record" for the U.N. health agency, which usually takes about one year to organize meetings of experts to review scientific data. Although much is known about acrylamide and its effects in animals, there is far less information about its effects on humans. After the study was released in April, some U.S. scientists urged consumers to be patient in awaiting more investigation. "I think we need to step back a little bit and wait for greater discussion of the issue and see the findings presented in more detail," said Carl Winter, a toxicologist at the University of California at Davis. "The most important thing is not the presence or absence of any type of ingredient, but how much is there." Mary Ellen Camire, a food scientist and nutritionist at the University of Maine, was skeptical about any link to cancer and said it was important to remember that whole-grain bread and potatoes contain a lot of important nutrients. "The risk-to-benefit ratio is hard to estimate," she said at the time. "We eat a lot of strange chemicals, but that's life. You just have to get a balance." Schlundt said subsequent studies in Norway, Britain and Switzerland basically backed up the findings of Sweden's National Food Administration. -- continued --
Link Posted: 6/25/2002 10:11:38 AM EDT
"It is not a case of a batch of wrong results from scientists," he said. "Everybody who has any expertise understands this is a potential threat." In voicing misgivings about the validity of the Swedish results, which were based on 100 foods, scientists noted that they were released at a government news conference rather than passing through normal peer review procedures in a scientific journal. The Swedish researchers said that "fried, oven-baked and deep-fried potato and cereal products may contain high levels of acrylamide." The same results were not found in boiled products. Swedish government scientists estimated it could be responsible for several hundred of the 45,000 cancer cases in the country each year, based on experiments in which rats were fed fried food. Schlundt said the type of cancers provoked by acrylamide in animals were not just limited to the digestive tract, but also included the mammary and testicular glands, and skin. But he stressed there was no evidence to suggest this could apply to humans. He said it was premature to predict whether the meeting would urge dietary changes, or recommend further studies in specific areas. Regardless of the acrylamide fears, there is basic consensus that people should limit consumption of fried and fatty foods if they want a healthy diet. But it would prove more difficult to issue advice concerning bread -- and only certain types are so far implicated -- given its importance in many national diets. ©2002 Radio Web Network. All rights reserved.
Link Posted: 6/25/2002 10:39:33 AM EDT
In related news, a 17-year old undergraduate has discovered that LIFE CAUSES CANCER. A careful, double-blind analysis showed zero incidence of cancer in dead people. "It's simple, really. If you're really so worried about all these carcinogens, kill yourself." Methinks it's a Swede anti-Mcdonalds conspiracy.
Link Posted: 6/25/2002 4:38:23 PM EDT
The most common carcinogen on Earth is dihydrogen oxide. Please don't make me elaborate....
Link Posted: 6/25/2002 5:18:49 PM EDT
Originally Posted By gus: The most common carcinogen on Earth is dihydrogen oxide. Please don't make me elaborate....
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I know it's one of the biggest causes of death, but I wouldn't call drowning a form of cancer.
Link Posted: 6/25/2002 5:25:11 PM EDT
Yum yum I just finished a bag of RUFFLES POTATO CHIPS!!! (the best)
Link Posted: 6/25/2002 5:34:29 PM EDT
I'm still eating potato chips, everybody's got to go sometime [smoke]
Link Posted: 6/25/2002 5:41:42 PM EDT
SNorman and ECS, you guys suck, I'm trying to stay the hell away from chips (not because of the cancer risk, but rather for my waistline) and now you guys made me crave them something fierce!
Link Posted: 6/26/2002 12:01:22 AM EDT
Originally Posted By skullworks: SNorman and ECS, you guys suck, I'm trying to stay the hell away from chips (not because of the cancer risk, but rather for my waistline) and now you guys made me crave them something fierce!
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It was a Super Size bag too... mmm I can't possibly eat all this crispy, yummy, fatty-fried goodness... oh wait yes I can :) Oh can I twist the knife in your side a bit more by mentioning I'm 6' 5", 176 lbs... yee haw! More chips baby!
Link Posted: 6/26/2002 5:02:36 AM EDT
Isn't this the same study from Two months ago that after looking deeper into the facts that you needed to eat 66lbs of frys and chips per day??
Link Posted: 6/26/2002 5:16:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By skullworks:
Originally Posted By gus: The most common carcinogen on Earth is dihydrogen oxide. Please don't make me elaborate....
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I know it's one of the biggest causes of death, but I wouldn't call drowning a form of cancer.
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No, drowning is not a form of cancer, and neither is being over weight from eating too many potato chips! However, based on what I've seen of current scientific standards, it must be a carcinogen - every thing on the planet seems to be.
Link Posted: 6/26/2002 7:54:03 AM EDT
Originally Posted By EX_SP: Isn't this the same study from Two months ago that after looking deeper into the facts that you needed to eat 66lbs of frys and chips per day??
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Well, that seals it. I'm cutting down to 50lbs per day!
Link Posted: 6/26/2002 8:09:41 AM EDT
Originally Posted By warlord: KFWB is one of the 2 all news radio stations in L.A.quote] I moved to the far side of Az. and, on a good night, I can still listen to KFWB and KFI in my truck. It's funny listening to L.A. problems, weather, traffic, etc. Reminds me how much I don't miss that place.
Link Posted: 6/26/2002 8:52:18 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Wasted-life:
Originally Posted By warlord: KFWB is one of the 2 all news radio stations in L.A.quote] I moved to the far side of Az. and, on a good night, I can still listen to KFWB and KFI in my truck. It's funny listening to L.A. problems, weather, traffic, etc. Reminds me how much I don't miss that place.
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Are you a machachist or enjoy a little self-abuse? Yeah, it is probably pretty hilarious - it is funny to listen to the trials and tribulations of your former home when you are not involved. One of this days, Kalifornia is gonna fall into the ocean and your are going to have some beach front property. ----- I just post this BS about the potatoe chips & french fries, another thing that is harmful to your health, along with smog, coffee, cranberries, BBQ food, saccarhin, etc. AND of course assault weapons and guns.
Link Posted: 6/26/2002 9:05:27 AM EDT
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I think this says more than my post:
By the end of the 1970s, WHO’s official rhetoric about its core purpose began to shift from simple disease eradication. In 1978, at a joint meeting of WHO and UNICEF in Kazakhstan, in the former Soviet Union, WHO adopted "World Health for All by 2000" as its goal. This conclave of international bureaucrats vowed that, by the close of the 20th century, "All governments will have assumed overall responsibility for the health of their people -- through influencing lifestyles and controlling the physical and psychosocial environment." An "equitable distribution of health reserves, both among countries and within countries -- is therefore fundamental to the strategy." This plan was "part of that fundamental reorganization of human relationships in the world through the search for a New International Economic Order."
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It's run by some bitch woman.
In its war on tobacco, WHO has attempted Orwellian moves of almost absurd incompetence. In 1998, for instance, the group was supposed to release an enormous 10-year study on second-hand smoke’s links with lung cancer, the largest ever done in Europe. A small mention of it was printed in a WHO report before the whole study was available. The British Sunday Telegraph tried to get a copy of the study, since the brief reference intriguingly implied that it could not find a statistically significant link between second-hand smoke exposure and lung cancer. The Telegraph implied that WHO was trying to bury the report since its results went against their official anti-tobacco stance. WHO and other anti-tobacco groups were outraged. One group, Action on Smoking and Health, filed an official complaint with Britain’s Press Complaints Commission over the supposedly erroneous reporting. (The commission found in the Telegraph’s favor.) WHO responded to reports that its study did not find a statistically significant link between second-hand smoke and lung cancer in a press release headlined, "Passive Smoking Does Cause Lung Cancer, Do Not Let Them Fool You" -- strange, strained language from a supposedly scientific organization.
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Full article here [url]http://www.reason.com/0201/fe.bd.who.shtml[/url]
Link Posted: 6/26/2002 9:47:01 AM EDT
What, you want to live forever? "If I give up drinking, smoking, and fatty foods, I can add ten years to my life. Trouble is, I'll add it to the wrong end." -- P.J. O'Rourke
Link Posted: 6/26/2002 9:53:59 AM EDT
Most everything is carcinogenic these days but if ya die you can bet yer ass the real cause is from second hand smoke..[rolleyes]
Link Posted: 6/26/2002 1:28:54 PM EDT
Originally Posted By gus: However, based on what I've seen of current scientific standards, it must be a carcinogen - every thing on the planet seems to be.
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I'll give you that. It's funny though, how people react as though if it wasn't for all these harmful things around us we'd live forever. Birth is the beginning of death, deal with it and move on.
Link Posted: 6/26/2002 1:58:19 PM EDT
OATMEAL! The silent killer....
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