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Posted: 6/13/2002 6:01:51 PM EDT
The German parliament is expected to
enact tough new guns laws by the end of the month that includes raising
the legal age for firearm possession from 18 to 21. According to German
press reports, individuals under age 25 will have to provide medical proof
of their mental stability when applying for a gun license. Also,
pump-action shotguns, described by the Interior Ministry as "classic
underworld weapons" unsuited "to sport or hunting" will be banned. The
proposed new laws are in response to a teenager's fatally shooting 16
people and himself at his former high school in April. The 19-year-old
shooter reportedly held licenses for the pump shotgun and the pistol used
in the shootings.

Link Posted: 6/13/2002 6:27:55 PM EDT
[#1]
Quoted:... The 19-year-old
shooter reportedly held licenses for the pump shotgun and the pistol used
in the shootings.

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Sure stopped him from killig with them didn't they. Licenses. F-n krauts need to re-grow some nads, and this time use them for freedom instead of socialism.

Link Posted: 6/13/2002 6:28:51 PM EDT
[#2]
No argument from me here.
Link Posted: 6/13/2002 6:29:57 PM EDT
[#3]
Too bad... I knew this was coming soon.
Link Posted: 6/13/2002 6:30:34 PM EDT
[#4]
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No argument from me here.
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I like the new sig.

Link Posted: 6/13/2002 6:33:55 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Quoted:... The 19-year-old
shooter reportedly held licenses for the pump shotgun and the pistol used
in the shootings.

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Sure stopped him from killing with them didn't they. Licenses. F-n krauts need to re-grow some nads, and this time use them for freedom instead of socialism.

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Dang Straight
Link Posted: 6/13/2002 7:09:34 PM EDT
[#6]
Surely [i]this[/i] is what your friend meant:

[i]A friend of mine stationed in Germany some time ago said that if a war started between the Germans and the Soviets, the Germans would be in Paris in 48 hours. [/i]

Right? Right?? Btw, the German KSK is playing quite a role in Afghanistan right now.
Link Posted: 6/13/2002 7:27:54 PM EDT
[#7]
I like the new sig.
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SIG isn't German.  The Sauer part is German, which may not have anything to do with the gun you like.

IIRC the Germans got involved because of the import [EDIT -- actually export IIRC] restriction on Swiss firearms.  Now SIGARMS is producing the firearms in the states.

Just pulled mine out of the safe and the slide is marked SIG SAUER, SIGARMS INC EXETER - NH and P226 MADE IN GERMANY.

Great guns.  If I wasn't as emotionally attached to 1911's, I'd have nothing to do with a pistol other than the SIG.  They are incredible.

What was the questions?  ....  [>:/]

[url]http://www.sigarms.com/about/history.shtml[/url]

EDITED to change import to export in text.
Link Posted: 6/13/2002 8:02:58 PM EDT
[#8]
Link Posted: 6/13/2002 8:08:59 PM EDT
[#9]
Wow, I didn't know you could lawfully own weapons in Germany, what happened to the German Weapons Control Act of 1936 ? Oh, did war make that go away ? Well then, now that we're at war shouldn't the Crime Bill go away as well as others ?
Link Posted: 6/13/2002 8:20:45 PM EDT
[#10]
Link Posted: 6/14/2002 4:25:05 AM EDT
[#11]
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Wow, I didn't know you could lawfully own weapons in Germany, what happened to the German Weapons Control Act of 1936? Oh, did war make that go away?
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Nope, the German "WaffG" of 1938 was almost verbatim in effect until 1972 or '74. Then it was tightened...
Anyway, this GCA '38 didn't outlaw private gunownership at all, [i]au contraire[/i], it merely forbade "unreliable, subversive subjects", ie. jews, commies, unionists, democrats etc to own weapons. For the majority of the German population, gun ownership and marksmanship have been encouraged and promoted.
Link Posted: 6/14/2002 9:17:38 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted: No argument from me here.
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From another fellow Kraut, ditto.

Makes me ashamed to be of German heritage.

P3[pyro][^][heavy]
Link Posted: 6/14/2002 9:52:55 AM EDT
[#13]
To quote that-guy-I-can-never-remember:

"Nuts"

What happens when some 28yr old loses his frauline (sp?) and blows her away with a side-by-side?
-------------

Newsflash: Munich, Germany (Reuters)

Girlfriend murdered by shotgun.

Helga Crutchfield was murdered Monday night by her boyfriend Klaus von Buttmunch in a fit of jealous rage. Friends report that von Buttmunch was depressed over Crutchfield's breaking up with him and had recently been drinking heavily, taking drugs and engaging in 24 hour playing marathons of the violent computer game "Doom" online with friends.

In response to the killing, the German parliament has called an emergency session for Tuesday. Parliament member Siegfied und Roy said that it is time to eradicate side-by-side shot guns and computers. "There is no place for shotguns and Doom in a peaceful society." und Roy was quoted as saying at a recent animal rights rally hosted by french animal activist and former actress, Brigitte Bardot.

Meanwhile, the family of Crutchfield has filed lawsuits against the makers of "Doom", Compac, and the makers of the shotgun. When it was pointed out that the gun was 50 years old, Crutchfield's father, Schpeker replied, "being out of business is no excuse and won't bring back our daughter. The money is still there in the hands of the descendants. They hold responsibility for the hundreds of guns that are still around and murdering innocents."

Link Posted: 6/14/2002 11:33:02 AM EDT
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No argument from me here.
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So you support the new gun controls...?
Link Posted: 6/14/2002 11:41:06 AM EDT
[#15]
Well here is a news flash:

We neutered the German people. Just the thought of the holocaust and those ugly crosses; Sends your average native German into a fit of near tears.

For chrissakes, which member of the greens rides his bike to work everyday (nearly 30k)?

I'm amazed this did not happen sooner... although I miss my old friend Helmut.



Edited to add: The Greens comment was only out of animosity from myself towards the Green Party, and shoulod not have been included in this post...
Link Posted: 6/14/2002 11:58:17 AM EDT
[#16]
[B]Also, pump-action shotguns, described by the Interior Ministry as "classic
underworld weapons[/B]

Well, if they're used in the [I]underworld[/I], I guess I can understand it, then.  I can just picture Satan, the Grim Reaper, and Charon the boatman running around with Remington 870's...

[B]Einige Leute nehmen sich viel zu ernstlich hier...[/B]
Yeah, you noticed that too?
Link Posted: 6/14/2002 12:00:22 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Quoted:
No argument from me here.
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So you support the new gun controls...?
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Where the hell did you read [i]that[/i]?

Alclenin: F-n krauts need to re-grow some nads, and this time use them for freedom instead of socialism.

Kar98: No argument from me here.
Link Posted: 6/14/2002 6:43:05 PM EDT
[#18]
sig as in signature. the little thingy at the bottm of every one of your posts
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Doh!  [BD]

Sorry AlClenin!  I didn't see a sig line on ka98's post.  But there I am being all anal again.  [:D]

The funny thing is, I actually shoot my guns more than I clean them.  I'm going to the range again next week, maybe I can get away with a wipe down and a shot of CLP....

And I prefer to call it "a high level of attention to detail."  [;)]
Link Posted: 6/14/2002 6:47:18 PM EDT
[#19]
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Also,
pump-action shotguns, described by the Interior Ministry as "classic
underworld weapons" unsuited "to sport or hunting" will be banned.
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[whacko]
The Interior Ministry has been watching too many B-movies methinks...
Link Posted: 6/14/2002 7:07:28 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
sig as in signature. the little thingy at the bottm of every one of your posts
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Doh!  [BD]

Sorry AlClenin!  I didn't see a sig line on ka98's post.  But there I am being all anal again.  [:D]
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There is none at the moment, I was kindly asked to change it to something a wee tad less overt :) The sigs will be back! (as soon as I can think of something, that is)
Link Posted: 6/14/2002 7:46:56 PM EDT
[#21]
Vindicated!

WooHoo!!

[stabs self in eye with barrel light]

Doh!!  [BD]
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